The Allison Wonderland

5 on hidden falls 5 on central park lol, I just spent 4 hours making the clues fit every park in the county!!

Thought I was done...sheeshThe i35 area that this is by is called FORT Rd. & 34th Infantry RED BULL Division Hwy - a double hit on the Army Over Hill and Dale song? Now Im done...
10 Linwood Recreation Center 
There is always some HistoryThere is always street namesI am poor searching the History, love looking at streets. ( I have only ever picked a park correctly once early, so take this with a grain of salt, tonights clue will probably blow this to the wind...clue #1 LOL) But Clue #1 city Hill's a Glowin - The city limits are HOT! (The Ken clue is not for this unless...)clue #5 Noodle - The Ken thing pointing to outside areas is a good noodle of past hunts. (Good Noodle there by previous poster)But alternate noodle on Ken and ANEW, the best I can come up with is a NEW park. (But to hope it wont happen again?) Why would I not hope a new park is chosen again?unless its a very unlikely small park that does not cater well to large crowds? Making it tough to get to and - dont do that again PUCK HIDER!??? I think the whole purpose of clue #5 is  A NEW. I think Rose even stated that. So smaller places and smaller parks, Like Newell and Langford, Irvine come to mind. In 1969 the medallion was at I35 and Victoria. Not a park. But very close to Linwood Recreation Area which is along St. Clair and Pleasant. (Pleasant Lot) Where Pleasant Ave. begins is just Over summit HILL area by where DALE (#2) street ends and in that area is KENwood park. (a stretch, but it's literally right there) Just across Pleasant street from Linwood is Pleasant Arena where you can play hockey in COLD OR HOT (#4) weather, where if the puck goes IN and OUT THEY SHOUT #2 at the Arena.SO I looked up History, cuz you gotta have some history and this fits the water and field repurpose of this Mississippi prairie area that was restored. (#4)Linwood Recreation Center

The Summit Hill neighborhood is very fortunate to have the Linwood Community Recreation Center, located at 860 St. Clair Avenue. It is the site of not only many activities for residents of all ages, but also meeting spaces, indoor and outdoor sports and exercise amenities, and a popular playground and park. To learn more about the Center, please visit its webpage at: Linwood Recreation Center for complete information on activities, events, amenities, as well as how to register.

Linwood Recreation Center

Be sure to visit the Sam Morgan Prairie Restoration Site, which is overseen by the Summit Hill Association Environment and Beautification Committee and the City of St. Paul Parks and Recreation Department. It is named after longtime Summit Hill resident and conservationist Samuel H. Morgan, and is a surviving remnant of the native prairies that once flourished on the hillsides and bluffs along the Mississippi River in the Twin Cities. Overlooking the bluffs by the eastern end of the park near Avon Street, this area was rediscovered in the late 1990s and was restored and preserved. It’s an important community asset and another reminder of our heritage in the historic Summit Hill neighborhood.----------------------------------------------------------------------So If Sam Morgan comes up in a clue, or a very close reference to the 1969 site Maybe? And this noodle is complete...this has about a 1% chance btw...lolMike 
  Clue #5
When hunters were bidden to where it was hidden
By forces beyond their ken
We got a clue to start things anew
And hope it won't happen again   And the previous clues:   Clue #4
Water and field a refuge did yield
A place to play when cold or hot.
But as changes came they did proclaim
A new use for this pleasant plot   Clue #3
To recognize this year’s prize
Seek not geometry of yore
Would it be found stop looking around
Only the edgy will score
 
Clue #2
Over hill over dale hit the dusty trail
Better keep rolling along
In and out hear them shout
If you want to belong
 
Clue #1
Santa Ana’s churning, things are burning
The city hills are glowin’
The beast returns as the hunter yearns
The answer my friend is blowin’

10 Linwood Recreation Center 
There is always some HistoryThere is always street namesI am poor searching the History, love looking at streets. ( I have only ever picked a park correctly once early, so take this with a grain of salt, tonights clue will probably blow this to the wind...clue #1 LOL) But Clue #1 city Hill's a Glowin - The city limits are HOT! (The Ken clue is not for this unless...)clue #5 Noodle - The Ken thing pointing to outside areas is a good noodle of past hunts. (Good Noodle there by previous poster)But alternate noodle on Ken and ANEW, the best I can come up with is a NEW park. (But to hope it wont happen again?) Why would I not hope a new park is chosen again?unless its a very unlikely small park that does not cater well to large crowds? Making it tough to get to and - dont do that again PUCK HIDER!??? I think the whole purpose of clue #5 is  A NEW. I think Rose even stated that. So smaller places and smaller parks, Like Newell and Langford, Irvine come to mind. In 1969 the medallion was at I35 and Victoria. Not a park. But very close to Linwood Recreation Area which is along St. Clair and Pleasant. (Pleasant Lot) Where Pleasant Ave. begins is just Over summit HILL area by where DALE (#2) street ends and in that area is KENwood park. (a stretch, but it's literally right there) Just across Pleasant street from Linwood is Pleasant Arena where you can play hockey in COLD OR HOT (#4) weather, where if the puck goes IN and OUT THEY SHOUT #2 at the Arena.SO I looked up History, cuz you gotta have some history and this fits the water and field repurpose of this Mississippi prairie area that was restored. (#4)Linwood Recreation Center

The Summit Hill neighborhood is very fortunate to have the Linwood Community Recreation Center, located at 860 St. Clair Avenue. It is the site of not only many activities for residents of all ages, but also meeting spaces, indoor and outdoor sports and exercise amenities, and a popular playground and park. To learn more about the Center, please visit its webpage at: Linwood Recreation Center for complete information on activities, events, amenities, as well as how to register.

Linwood Recreation Center

Be sure to visit the Sam Morgan Prairie Restoration Site, which is overseen by the Summit Hill Association Environment and Beautification Committee and the City of St. Paul Parks and Recreation Department. It is named after longtime Summit Hill resident and conservationist Samuel H. Morgan, and is a surviving remnant of the native prairies that once flourished on the hillsides and bluffs along the Mississippi River in the Twin Cities. Overlooking the bluffs by the eastern end of the park near Avon Street, this area was rediscovered in the late 1990s and was restored and preserved. It’s an important community asset and another reminder of our heritage in the historic Summit Hill neighborhood.----------------------------------------------------------------------So If Sam Morgan comes up in a clue, or a very close reference to the 1969 site Maybe? And this noodle is complete...this has about a 1% chance btw...lolMike 
  Clue #5
When hunters were bidden to where it was hidden
By forces beyond their ken
We got a clue to start things anew
And hope it won't happen again   And the previous clues:   Clue #4
Water and field a refuge did yield
A place to play when cold or hot.
But as changes came they did proclaim
A new use for this pleasant plot   Clue #3
To recognize this year’s prize
Seek not geometry of yore
Would it be found stop looking around
Only the edgy will score
 
Clue #2
Over hill over dale hit the dusty trail
Better keep rolling along
In and out hear them shout
If you want to belong
 
Clue #1
Santa Ana’s churning, things are burning
The city hills are glowin’
The beast returns as the hunter yearns
The answer my friend is blowin’

10 on hidden falls clue 5 

4 Battle Creek 6 Hidden Falls

I think Clue #2 is a bit of a red herring... 'better keep rolling along' and 'If you want to be-long' as in have a long hunt. 

A few thoughts on central park, Beast= lions shelterGeometry= lions shelter is octagon shaped. Anew= arboretum?In/out, shout= tennis courts, a line judge calls out during a match. Refuge= harriet Alexander nature center
Would be a good place to hide it, 225 acres. A few of these connection are pretty weak, wondering if there will be an anagram like last year, believe clue 7 when people really discovered the link to vento.

Kenneth Street runs into Groveland Ice Rinks off of St Clair. Hmmmm? and further down a small Hillcrest Park...
On Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 09:45:57 AM CST, Mike Flipp via groups.io <flippstermn@...> wrote:



Mike


but now the beyond our ken clue kills this doesn't it?
On Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 09:37:56 AM CST, Mike Flipp via groups.io <flippstermn@...> wrote:

I see now, Thank you, Linwood is just beyond the reach of Dale street by 35 E , Just a little ways away is that AYd Mill trail and Edgecumb rec area, oooh this area is getting juicy...
Mike
On Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 09:17:53 AM CST, dave pwcmn.com via groups.io <dave@...> wrote:

Pleasant doesn't go near Highland, just Linwood.  
Dave

It could also mean a park never used before...

Mike


but now the beyond our ken clue kills this doesn't it?
On Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 09:37:56 AM CST, Mike Flipp via groups.io <flippstermn@...> wrote:

I see now, Thank you, Linwood is just beyond the reach of Dale street by 35 E , Just a little ways away is that AYd Mill trail and Edgecumb rec area, oooh this area is getting juicy...
Mike
On Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 09:17:53 AM CST, dave pwcmn.com via groups.io <dave@...> wrote:

Pleasant doesn't go near Highland, just Linwood.  
Dave

I see now, Thank you, Linwood is just beyond the reach of Dale street by 35 E , Just a little ways away is that AYd Mill trail and Edgecumb rec area, oooh this area is getting juicy...
Mike
On Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 09:17:53 AM CST, dave pwcmn.com via groups.io <dave@...> wrote:

Pleasant doesn't go near Highland, just Linwood.  
Dave

Wow.  I just dropped some things off at the 625 District office this morning (Community ED), at Lex and W7th.  I live in Highland, and I always figured that street was just a dead end, and never knew its name.  
Freaky, thanks.
Dave

While I dont believe pleasant Ave is indicative of highland. This simply isn’t true.   Due to 35E - Pleasant Ave may be the most disjointed road in St. Paul. It starts near the Lexington and Montreal intersection, goes east/west for a while by the global arts school, skirts the garbage site/figure skating arena/linwood, then finally terminates near the James j hill house where Irvine turns. Truly a crazy path.

Pleasant doesn't go near Highland, just Linwood.  
Dave

Yes, seems to possibly reference the donut hunt where an animal had moved it. Also could be referring to last year where hunters didn't know bruce Vento was sacred to the Dakota people.

There are various thoughts on this one. My first thought was that they were talking about last year and to begin anew was to go back to the beginning and thus it was a reference to Highland Park.   A lot of other people are thinking it refers to one of the years where they had two hunts. In 1953 it was found at Cherokee somewhat quickly so they did a second hunt that was at the Fairgrounds. It's obviously not at the Fairgrounds. Cherokee is looking not too likely at the moment.   The other year was 2007 when it was found early (by some guy, I forget who) in Hidden Falls and then there was another hunt in Central Park. Hidden Falls is also not fitting the other clues too well (I don't think). Central definitely does though.   It's possible this could refer to Tony Schmidt in 2012. That would make some sense with hunters being sent to the park by forces "beyond their ken" with the so-called hacking incident. That might work if you believe the military reference was just a city clue, referring to the armory in Arden Hills.

Sorry, I fell asleep last night, but here is my official posting of the clue:   Clue #5
When hunters were bidden to where it was hidden
By forces beyond their ken
We got a clue to start things anew
And hope it won't happen again   And the previous clues:   Clue #4
Water and field a refuge did yield
A place to play when cold or hot.
But as changes came they did proclaim
A new use for this pleasant plot   Clue #3
To recognize this year’s prize
Seek not geometry of yore
Would it be found stop looking around
Only the edgy will score
 
Clue #2
Over hill over dale hit the dusty trail
Better keep rolling along
In and out hear them shout
If you want to belong
 
Clue #1
Santa Ana’s churning, things are burning
The city hills are glowin’
The beast returns as the hunter yearns
The answer my friend is blowin’

Here are clues 1 through 7. Clue 8 will come out at 6:30 tonight at St. Paul Brewing. It will probably be found soon!   Clue #1
If you should want a beer that’s cold, then seek out ours, it’s good as gold.
The true standard in days of old, alcohol was just down the street.
In St. Paul we will play our game, where a park and street share a name.
A split tree will direct your aim, somewhere away from the concrete.   Clue #2
In this park some grass goes unshaved, nor are each of the trees behaved, 
And not all the edges are paved. Still, you’ll find a fine place to sit.
The direction it’s best begun? In the shade of the morning sun.
For that is where this hunt is won, once you get it into your mitt.   Clue #3
Look up for a chance at success. Step down and you might find distress.
To go high or low? It’s your guess. Perhaps either way you’ll be okay.
But as you wander to and fro, going maybe high, maybe low,
You might just think to yourself, “Oh! I have already been this way!”   Clue #4
This year’s park indeed has a name, though it was not always the same.
It’s not clear who did first proclaim, but it is a park we all know.
If your car needs a parking spot you will find that there is a lot
Six they used to say for this plot that was partly barns long ago.   Clue #5
It’s one hundred eighty degrees on the inside among some trees.
Outside our treasure is sure to freeze because it is close to zero.
Nix the unfriendly attitude, and soon you will feel gratitude
Giving you some good latitude to become a hunting hero.   Clue #6
Old McDonald, he had no farm, but a fool thinks he had no charm.
It’s alright, this is it, no harm if you were to keep forgetting.
It was the best that you can do, playing together with your crew,
It even keeps you running too, towards the treasure we’re betting.   Clue #7
Though he had wanted to help all, it really took a lot of gall.
Later on, no one would play ball. He was disappointed for sure.
Between just you and me a stroll proves helpful to body and soul.
For if you’re not feeling quite whole, it might help to seek out the cure.

Ken has been used 3 times all in fairly recent hunts    2006 - Battle Creek 2012 - Tony Schmidt 2021 - West Park - White Bear Lake   With “Beyond our Ken” being used in 2021.   it seems to allude to the boundaries of the hunt nearly ever time it is used.   i think with the allusion to the donut hunt - they are simultaneously saying it’s out in the open (no snow may be moved) and it’s not in St. Paul.

Yea I agree, almost seems like too obvious of a clue for only #5