The Allison Wonderland

Here is my take.... not real sure. I have walked Phalen, mounds, and Crosby. My top is Phalen. How do I vote? 

Clue #7

If you’re in town, swing on down 

To a park lit up some nights

Before it gets hotter, line three bodies water

And you’ll have it in your sites

 

Site may also be used as a verb which means “to fix or build something in a particular place.” On the other hand, the term sight is often used as a noun referring to “the faculty or power of seeing” or “a thing that one sees or that can be seen.”

 

Park lit up (Phalen but only during events, it does say some night?????, 

         mounds was lit up for sure) 

 

Line there bodies (Phalen - round, Phalen, and Gervais; Crosby Farm -Crosby, Mississippi, and Minnesota River. Are there any other parks with 2 bodies??

 

Clue #6

Once at the summit, it did quite plummet

Before it got to the bluff

Starting and stopping, winding and hopping

It will eventually lead to the stuff

 

Summit brewing down Shepard road.... down the bluff to Hidden or Crosby ) or simply the bluff in relation to so many parks. Not really feeling the plane crash deal but who knows. 

 

Starting and Stopping hmmm reference to hiking paths winding and hopping tells me your gonna walk and hop and wind and start and stop. Which led me to Hidden and Crosby. 

 

Clue #5

We will protect each clue from the GRU

Nyet hackers! Have you no shame?

They may fix our elections, but we'll spark insurrection,

If they try to interfere with our game

 

GRU - we will protect from the GRU ie protect from St. Paul ? GRU (Sao Paulo ) hmmm but here it say protect from St. Paul if that is what we say it is??? Leds back to Phalen ......If St. Paul tried to interfere with our game.

Insurrection if st paul interferes?????a violent uprising against an authority or government.

 

 

Clue #4

One patterned neat and trim, one salvaged life and limb

Did the two cutters who lived down the way.

Herringbones or sawbones?

You decide which will play.

 

2 cutters Is I believe Gillette (Phalen) and Johnson ( Taylor) seems odd to use Johnson for 2 reference which looking back is not commonly done. Either way these 2 cutters seem to make us choose .......... which one or more specifically which side of the park to choose? Hmmmm

 

I say a choose between Phalen and Mounds.....

 

herringbones (1 : a pattern made up of rows of parallel lines which in any two adjacent rows slope in opposite directions. vs sawbones (a doctor or surgeon.) which park to choose or which side of the park (doubtful)

 

Clue #3

This hunt’s guarantor settles that forevermore

Noodlers treasure noggins; keep that in mind.

So doff your warm cap, study dog-eared map

And genuflect in the presence of the find.

 

Clue 3 Genuflect - bend on a knee to see BUT OUT OF RESPECT and if indeed they are talking about impeach (Clue 2) they are going left .......they are talking about kneeling AND WHILE picking up the Macgruffin we would see something * a flag * the capitol * or simply could be talking about the medallion however I believe something we respect is seen. 

 

Kneel at the capitol ? Kneel at a church near Phalen? 

 

I do not think it is “the map book” as the map book is now into several different maps. i think simply it is a Dog eared map ie a well used map. 

 

Clue #2

Though the times be quite peachy, we do so beseech ye,

To venture out of doors for a romp

As you traipse through the snow, your medallions aglow,

Careful of what flora you stomp

 

reference to Johnson (Phalen & Mounds) Romp ( any place with a playground) Trapsie - to walk or go aimlessly or idly or without finding or reaching one's goal: We traipsed all over town looking for a copy of the book.

Careful of the flora (wild flora at Phalen, mounds, Crosby park , and virtually any other place) 

 

Clue #1

There’s just enough snow and temperatures low

To rouse us from our snoozing

And hide the MacGuffin, no we ain’t bluffin,

In a park of our very own choosing.

 

The Vikings are done, the Twins yet begun

What excuse do you have to dawdle?

Gather your kin, prepare for the win

And be sure to bring a hot bottle. 

 

* The Macguffin - the thing that drives the plot. Possibly a reference to St PAUL and the Excel and the wild. 

This year my strategy has been to keep my points there until I felt confident on another park. 

That said, 10 on Phalen. 

This year my strategy has been to keep my points there until I felt confident on another park. 

That said, 10 on Phalen. 

Looking at the park pick pool as well as what people are posting on Facebook, it seems clear that here on Clue 7 people have not settled on a park yet. There seem to be several contenders that people feel strongly about. I think at this point it likely is one of those and that we won't be thrown to a brand new park. But where to go dig today since it is the weekend and I'm sure people want to go somewhere.

First off, let's talk accessibility. The city of St. Paul does not know where the medallion is. They are going about their business like the treasure hunt doesn't even exist until something happens that they can't ignore. For example, I drove through Phalen last night. It's very accessible. There are a couple of lots that are closed off simply because they aren't plowed. I'm sure the city saw no point in plowing them if no one was going to use them (nor did they want someone to get stuck in an unplowed lot). But if large crowds did start showing up, they probably would plow it at some point. The same is true at Hidden Falls. If the steep road down there is icy, they will close the gate, but that doesn't mean the treasure isn't there. There were even reports of people chasing people out of the parks last night, but that always happens, even in the right park. Once the crowds come, they will leave us alone.

So onto the parks. My favorite is still Phalen. 

• In clue 1 MacGuffin reminds me of the green doughnut from 2004 which was the thing everyone was looking for in the Archie comic that gave them the idea to do that. Gathering your kin to prepare for a win while holding a hot bottle could refer to the hockey rink.
• In clue 2 the times being peachy could refer to impeachment which would then lead you to Andrew Johnson who was the first President to be impeached and Johnson Parkway. The floral reference could refer to all of the streets with floral names at the south end of the park.
• Clue 3 I think is telling us it is hidden in a Love Your Melon hat, or a piece of one. I believe genuflect is telling us it is on the ground and we may have to get on our knees to find it. My guess about the dog-eared map was that it was in a park that we would have old used maps of, either because it was there before or because it is in old copies of The Treasure Hunter's Guide.
• Clue 4 seems to clearly point to Phalen for me. It refers to two cutters, one who seems to be a doctor and one who seems to be a tailor. Dr. Gillette was an orthopedic surgeon while Andrew Johnson was a tailor before he went into politics. And you have the Old Gillette hospital at the south end of Phalen and of course Johnson Parkway at the south end of the lake. Though they are spread pretty far east and west so you'll have to pick a side.
• GRU as has been mentioned is the airport code for Sao Paulo which translates to St. Paul, so I think this is telling us to look in St. Paul. I wonder if the "spark insurrection" might be a reference to Wheelock Parkway as a wheellock is a part of an old-style gun used to create a spark (and guns are used in insurrections). There's something else in this clue but it wasn't my idea nor posted publicly anywhere.
• I heard an explanation for Clue 6 that sounds exactly right but it also wasn't posted publicly. But it does "eventually" get you to Phalen. Alternately, but somewhat less satisfying is Phalen Creek. Assuming it flows downhill it's summit would be Phalen Lake and then it "plummets" while heading towards the bluff. It does wind and it starts and stops as it hops above and below ground. It connects to Phalen, but not in the direction the clue suggests.
• I'm taking Clue 7 to mean more directly it is a St. Paul park, and on the southern end of it. Phalen is lit up on nights when there is outdoor hockey or it could refer to the Christmas lights display it's been hosting recently. The three bodies (of) water to line (up)? Maybe it's not a body of water but rather a line of water, which is to say a street named after water. In the case of Phalen we do have Phalen (Lake) Blvd., Atlantic (Ocean) St., and English (Channel) St. all converging around the south end of the lake. Seems like a bit of a stretch to me, but perhaps too much to be coincidence?

So that is Phalen. I'm going to cover some other parks, but not in as much detail because I haven't studied them as much.

Mounds - A lot of what applies to Phalen also applies to Mounds. Johnson Parkway runs into Mounds as does Phalen Creek. Atlantic and English Streets run into the east end of the park while Pacific runs into the west end.You would certainly want to be careful of what flora you stomp. It's a city park and even near downtown if that's what the words "down" and "town" were trying to imply in the last clue. Johnson could still be your tailor though I'm not sure who the surgeon would be, but there's probably one somewhere nearby. GRU could be an airport clue as you can see the downtown airport from Mounds and they have the beacon for it in the park. A lot of people seem to think Clue 6 is referring to an airplane crash that happen in or near the park (I forgot which).
Bruce Vento Nature Sanctuary - there was a significant shift here after Clue 6. A lot of what applies to Mounds applies here as well. I suspect it was the fact that Phalen Creek lets out here that excited people, but I don't believe this park is lit up on *any* night.
Highland is still currently number three in the park pick pool (Mounds is #1 and Bruce Vento is #2) I haven't actually looked at it to see how it fits the clues, but if Rose gave up on it, then I'm not sure how it could be there. On the other hand last year's pool winner, Christina, is all in on it, so maybe I'm missing something.
I've heard some people sold on Swede Hollow. It also shares a few things with Phalen and/or Mounds, but doesn't strike me as a strong contender.
So I think that covers all the parks that have a strong interest in them that I know of. Feel free to elaborate on any of them if you wish. Otherwise it should be a good day to be out there hunting so good luck.

Looking at the park pick pool as well as what people are posting on Facebook, it seems clear that here on Clue 7 people have not settled on a park yet. There seem to be several contenders that people feel strongly about. I think at this point it likely is one of those and that we won't be thrown to a brand new park. But where to go dig today since it is the weekend and I'm sure people want to go somewhere.

First off, let's talk accessibility. The city of St. Paul does not know where the medallion is. They are going about their business like the treasure hunt doesn't even exist until something happens that they can't ignore. For example, I drove through Phalen last night. It's very accessible. There are a couple of lots that are closed off simply because they aren't plowed. I'm sure the city saw no point in plowing them if no one was going to use them (nor did they want someone to get stuck in an unplowed lot). But if large crowds did start showing up, they probably would plow it at some point. The same is true at Hidden Falls. If the steep road down there is icy, they will close the gate, but that doesn't mean the treasure isn't there. There were even reports of people chasing people out of the parks last night, but that always happens, even in the right park. Once the crowds come, they will leave us alone.

So onto the parks. My favorite is still Phalen. 

• In clue 1 MacGuffin reminds me of the green doughnut from 2004 which was the thing everyone was looking for in the Archie comic that gave them the idea to do that. Gathering your kin to prepare for a win while holding a hot bottle could refer to the hockey rink.
• In clue 2 the times being peachy could refer to impeachment which would then lead you to Andrew Johnson who was the first President to be impeached and Johnson Parkway. The floral reference could refer to all of the streets with floral names at the south end of the park.
• Clue 3 I think is telling us it is hidden in a Love Your Melon hat, or a piece of one. I believe genuflect is telling us it is on the ground and we may have to get on our knees to find it. My guess about the dog-eared map was that it was in a park that we would have old used maps of, either because it was there before or because it is in old copies of The Treasure Hunter's Guide.
• Clue 4 seems to clearly point to Phalen for me. It refers to two cutters, one who seems to be a doctor and one who seems to be a tailor. Dr. Gillette was an orthopedic surgeon while Andrew Johnson was a tailor before he went into politics. And you have the Old Gillette hospital at the south end of Phalen and of course Johnson Parkway at the south end of the lake. Though they are spread pretty far east and west so you'll have to pick a side.
• GRU as has been mentioned is the airport code for Sao Paulo which translates to St. Paul, so I think this is telling us to look in St. Paul. I wonder if the "spark insurrection" might be a reference to Wheelock Parkway as a wheellock is a part of an old-style gun used to create a spark (and guns are used in insurrections). There's something else in this clue but it wasn't my idea nor posted publicly anywhere.
• I heard an explanation for Clue 6 that sounds exactly right but it also wasn't posted publicly. But it does "eventually" get you to Phalen. Alternately, but somewhat less satisfying is Phalen Creek. Assuming it flows downhill it's summit would be Phalen Lake and then it "plummets" while heading towards the bluff. It does wind and it starts and stops as it hops above and below ground. It connects to Phalen, but not in the direction the clue suggests.
• I'm taking Clue 7 to mean more directly it is a St. Paul park, and on the southern end of it. Phalen is lit up on nights when there is outdoor hockey or it could refer to the Christmas lights display it's been hosting recently. The three bodies (of) water to line (up)? Maybe it's not a body of water but rather a line of water, which is to say a street named after water. In the case of Phalen we do have Phalen (Lake) Blvd., Atlantic (Ocean) St., and English (Channel) St. all converging around the south end of the lake. Seems like a bit of a stretch to me, but perhaps too much to be coincidence?

So that is Phalen. I'm going to cover some other parks, but not in as much detail because I haven't studied them as much.

Mounds - A lot of what applies to Phalen also applies to Mounds. Johnson Parkway runs into Mounds as does Phalen Creek. Atlantic and English Streets run into the east end of the park while Pacific runs into the west end.You would certainly want to be careful of what flora you stomp. It's a city park and even near downtown if that's what the words "down" and "town" were trying to imply in the last clue. Johnson could still be your tailor though I'm not sure who the surgeon would be, but there's probably one somewhere nearby. GRU could be an airport clue as you can see the downtown airport from Mounds and they have the beacon for it in the park. A lot of people seem to think Clue 6 is referring to an airplane crash that happen in or near the park (I forgot which).
Bruce Vento Nature Sanctuary - there was a significant shift here after Clue 6. A lot of what applies to Mounds applies here as well. I suspect it was the fact that Phalen Creek lets out here that excited people, but I don't believe this park is lit up on *any* night.
Highland is still currently number three in the park pick pool (Mounds is #1 and Bruce Vento is #2) I haven't actually looked at it to see how it fits the clues, but if Rose gave up on it, then I'm not sure how it could be there. On the other hand last year's pool winner, Christina, is all in on it, so maybe I'm missing something.
I've heard some people sold on Swede Hollow. It also shares a few things with Phalen and/or Mounds, but doesn't strike me as a strong contender.
So I think that covers all the parks that have a strong interest in them that I know of. Feel free to elaborate on any of them if you wish. Otherwise it should be a good day to be out there hunting so good luck.

Clue #7: 5 Cono and 5 IMP please.

I'm not sold on BVNS just yet.

Great article. Very interesting and informative.


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They definitely left out the words "up" and "of" which is odd. And they definitely spelled "sights" wrong which is also odd. Perhaps an anagram? It is found in a list of sites?

Shouldn't they have said "line (up) three bodies (of) water,
and you'll have it in your sights (not sites)"?
Anyway,. here's an interesting link on 3 bodies of water: https://www.rwmwd.org/three-creeks-in-one-a-meandering-mirror-of-the-past/

Clue #7 If you’re in town, swing on down  To a park lit up some nights Before it gets hotter, line three bodies water And you’ll have it in your sites   Clue #6 Once at the summit, it did quite plummet Before it got to the bluff Starting and stopping, winding and hopping It will eventually lead to the stuff   Clue #5 We will protect each clue from the GRU Nyet hackers! Have you no shame? They may fix our elections, but we'll spark insurrection, If they try to interfere with our game   Clue #4 One patterned neat and trim, one salvaged life and limb Did the two cutters who lived down the way. Herringbones or sawbones? You decide which will play.   Clue #3 This hunt’s guarantor settles that forevermore Noodlers treasure noggins; keep that in mind. So doff your warm cap, study dog-eared map And genuflect in the presence of the find.   Clue #2 Though the times be quite peachy, we do so beseech ye, To venture out of doors for a romp As you traipse through the snow, your medallions aglow, Careful of what flora you stomp   Clue #1 There’s just enough snow and temperatures low To rouse us from our snoozing And hide the MacGuffin, no we ain’t bluffin, In a park of our very own choosing.   The Vikings are done, the Twins yet begun What excuse do you have to dawdle? Gather your kin, prepare for the win And be sure to bring a hot bottle

Clue 7 scrambled:

water it your Before lit a you’ll

you’re down it three nights have gets

town, And swing line on in some

park in hotter, up To bodies sites If

Here is my rough guess for the scrambled clue:

If you’re in town, swing down  To a park in some sites lit And it gets hotter, line your bodies upon water Before three nights you’ll have it 

oh Can I come and play too?10 BVNS

I'll switch and put all 10 of mine on BVNS today as well. 

Clue 6.  10 bruce vento

Good to know Rob is in the wrong park. Lol

I went around Noon and I'd say there were about a dozen people spread out, but a lot of drive by hunters too. For what it's worth, I did spot Rob Brass coming out of the woods on the East end of the park, crossing the street towards Obb's bar. It looks like Phalen Creek makes its way through the park near there before dumping into the Mississippi. I walked part of the "Tree Trek Map" and there are no tracks of any sort, but I will say I'm not sold that the "deed is done" video means anything at all.  I'll be out hunting this weekend with my kids so look for my bright purple Vikings sweatshirt and say hello.

Wow very nice break down Matt. Nice compilation of noodles. I'll call it Treasure Spaghetti. TY for sharing.

Belated Happy Birthday, David! Thank you for all of your work to set up this group. I enjoy it!

It assumes the medallion was found yesterday on Clue 5. So your guesses from Clue 1 get multiplied by 5 (for 5 clues), so 50 points. Your clue 2 guesses are multiplied by 4, so 40 points. And then 30, 20, and 10 for your guesses on the day the medallion was (theoretically) found. That's a total of 150. Now on clue 6, all the previous guesses bump up another 10 in value (10x6) + (10x5) + (10x4) + (10x3) + (10x2) and you have 10 more for today, so now you have 210 points total. Tomorrow it will be 280, and then 360, and then 450 if the hunt keeps going.
David B. Allison

Hey David,  Although I kinda grasp this Common Core math stuff, how do I have 150 points with 6 clues and 10 choices? Home sick today, too.