Well I'm glad it's at least a downtown park and NOT Como. Thanks MK and ATH. I'm pretty sure you'll see a bunch of us out there tonight. See ya there. Be standing by....
THE COIN HAS BEEN FOUND!!!! It was found under a clock post on the north side of Mears Park in downtown St. Paul. He found it at about 11:00 PM. CONGRATS JAKE!!! You deserve it since there was a few of us who looked under that same post not more that 5 minutes earlier. It was nice since most of us hunters were right there when he found it. I'll try and post a picture later. Thanks for a great hunt Marley & Artemis. I think we figured out almost all the clues but are looking forward to the explanations. I assume that #12 was to be something regarding time?
I'll take a stab. Clue 7 referenced the stairs across the street which were in line and led directly to the clock? Clue 1 referenced a historic marker. At least that's what I think. What do I know though?
I'm heading out. Jake's waiting at Buggs. Thanks again you guys. That was fun having it confined to a DOWNTOWN city block and it's 70 degrees out. Nice job
Cluemaster, sorry man. I didn't mak it to Bugg's till about 12:15. Had two beers and figured that if you hadn't showed up by 12:30 you weren't coming, must have JUST missed you. Anyways, i'll be there again tomorrow night, i'll buy you a couple then. Again, sorry about that!!! Marley and Artemis, thanks.
This was Me2 and Ares put all together (sorry Ares if I forgot anything) you can add to it if you like-but I had to type it all out and see it in full) I look forward to seeing the true meanings---heres ours...
#1 beloved St Paul=Galtier    see a history marker    clock (note at Swede actually caught the "treasure is there"    litterally clue but forgot at Mears)
#2 drinking fountain    stay away from the dog area    glenwood/englewood may have been apart of what its hidden in KIDSidea FIRST
#3 BANK #1 (don't know anyone who didn't figure this one out) Â Â Â Â Insty prints neon
#4 your web address     Commonwealth Land Title is in Lowertown (I think that was the     clue that put me to lowertown Marley)     Possible number game with possibilites of 12 13 41 8 11     (looks like lotto time)
#5 saw the satellite-- KIDSfound it FIRST! (not a BIFFY :()     lights on both sides of the park beaming down from the bldgs.     and lights in trees on sides of walkways     (but first we thougt of the christmas lights there in winter)     No parking lot and dont dig in flower beds
#6 didnt get the history thing     dog park-Mears (now I remember-the moment that clue was posted     Ares IM'd me a 'noooooooooo' and I did the same to him!)     lots of rocks in Mears
#7 Stairs in Galtier     Maybe a right turn sign     Possible Today newspaper box
#8 & #9 'River' runs through the park-- protruding squaresKIDS
         found it FIRST but I counted the squares-just the wrong side          of the bandshell earlier that morning 12 (queen) squares on          one side and 13 (King) on the backside! (heard Mears was a          previous Winter Carnival KING). Backstage KIDSidea          of backstage passes but weird I got musical notes from it          and still got the same bandshell from it. Baptist          Mass=Baptist Hill area easy for me :) (but why you chose          that wording will be interesting to see) that was my          favorite clue :)
#10 Sibley was a gimmie (thanks) and Wacouta-
and esculant=TEN CLUES! --oh yeah the award winning monument-Ares remembered it there! and edible food was the Farmers Market near by.
Not sure if we forgot anything here -but you could not have picked a better park-except that Mears may have been where I would put it :) I tried to call you just to tell you that I wanted to hug you for putting it there but no-one answered at around 6:30.
and we sat together only hours ago at COMO talking about life and death! ::sigh:: don't EVER even think about telling me its there again or the later of the two will be you...lol
had to do with the stairs that were in the Galtier Plaza and you can only see from up top by DAY cause the placelocks up at night :)
HeHe! we watched the park from there tonight, and saw a few people looking! Its not as closed as you'd think at night!
edible food was the Farmers Market near by.
ooh good one! You don't know how bad I wanted to use the Farmers Market, but couldn't think of a good way to do it! Marley picked the word esculent, and added the words "By" and "and" to that clue to make it say "Bates"
Our original plan was to steer people towards Swede Hollow, will be interesting to hear why people went to certain places and not others though.
Clue 1 Its a past marker you'll see which park where, eventually but for now just stand tall knowing it's in our beloved St.Paul.
As well as meaning it was at a park its been at in the past, “Its a past marker “ anagrammed is “Its at Mears Park” , and the usual park in St. Paul clue.
A square on a circle and a circle on a square find both of these the treasure is there.
“A square on a circle” is the square base of the clock which is on a circle of cement“a circle on a square” refers to the circular layout of the courtyard on the square park
Clue 2 Around our coin there's two big woods both from California,
and when its hot you drink alot of water, not Ammonia.
The two big woods from CA are Inglewood, a current city, and Glenwood, a historical town and current winery. The coin was hidden in a Glenwood Inglewood water cup, from the water cooler at Marley’s work. Ammonia simply rhymes with California, and was capitalized because thats how I picture it on a bottle.
Clue 3 Flashy red neon in sky blue, to see more than one is half the clue.
Besides the First Bank 1 in the sky , and the red and blue clock seen in Galtier Plaza, both visible from the park, there were two red and blue neon signs across the street, visible from the clock.
Clue 4 Kings and Queens control the wealth, Common sense can save your health. Eight more clues now have some fun, Come on ya'll and get you sum.
Originally designed to be a red herring to get people to look at our website, we discovered that “Common Wealth Land Title” was across the street, as well as the address 215, which sums up to eight.
Clue 5 From where I hide you'll see a satellite, and on the side bright lights at night.
There is a satellite dish on the roof of the stage, which you can see if bending down to the coins level, and there are bright lights shining down on the park from the tops of the buildings on the side of the park.
Cars come and go but you can't see a lot, you'll see some flowers but don't dig in their plot.
There is a lot of traffic, but no parking lot. There are flowers in the park, but the coin is not among them.
Clue 6 If history's your thing then it might be a crime searching through archives to decipher this rhyme
The key word in this part of the clue is History, telling you its in the Historical district, not to search through history for this clue.
If of the future you are fonder and you prefer to sit and ponder, choose a rock or bench o'er yonder to watch the dogs and people wander.
There are rocks and benches to sit on in the park, and a specific area for walking dogs (according to the THG) “o’er yonder” away from the treasures hiding spot.
I found BATES and the joke was "maybe it is to bait us" funny it worked! and Bates was an enterance at Swede-perfect---and Pabst in Baptist Mass!
Ares and I were gonna walk up to the top of those stairs tonight a couple of times and we didn't - Ares saw the neon clock and showed a couple of us :)
Clue 7 If you stood up above in the day or took the stairs down below you'd say, This surely must be the right way I'm finding that treasure today!
The way up above is the skyway, the way down below is the Subway sandwich shop in Galtier , both are visible from the clock.
Clue 8 A true story, book, and movie starring Brad, directed by Robbie. This clue will help you find your wish, if you think of mountains and how to fly fish.
“A River Runs Through It” refers to the man made stream running through the park.
Clue 9 By the award winning landscape and the quaint little trails, the multi-colored stone esculent nature prevails.
There is a Landscaping award plaque on a rock, small dirt trails through the grass, noticeably different colored stone, and a few different edible and medicinal flowers such as echinacea, pansies, and marigolds.
Clue 10 If you want a musicians pass look for thirteen squares protruding, but if you'd rather a Baptist mass you'll have to do some good sleuthing.
A musicians pass is a backstage pass, there were thirteen small squares protruding from the back of the stage.*Baptist refers to “Baptist Hill” which the park area used to be known as. (I had no idea if Baptists went to mass or not, I guess not)
Once it was high now its down low, used to be open now its enclosed.
*It used to be the highest hill, but through development is now the lowest area of downtown, it used to be open land with a few trees but is now enclosed by the buildings that surround it.*Taken from the signs at the park
Clue 11 There Once was a man from Mendota who was first elected in Dakota. He once was a Colonel, three times a General, for successful battles against the Wacouta.
Refers to Henry H. Sibley- Sibley St, and Wacouta St
Clue 12 Even though we were up front in the very first line We’ll still help you out in this rat race sublime.
Telling you to pay attention to the first line of the first clue to confirm its at Mears Park
Find two seats and line them up stand in the middle before time is up!
Time refers to the clock which is between two benches, you can line up the clock with the address 215 across the street( sum 8)
Clue 13 (Just in case we got lucky, and because there were 13 clues when it was there in 1975)
Beneath the hands of time in the Lowertown park called Mears search well with your fingers and mind and soon we‘ll be hearing your cheers!
Tells you exactly where the coin is, at Norman Mears Park under the clock, you couldn’t see it with your eyes, but if your mind told you it was there, you could find it with your fingers.
Great job! Your next step should be filling out an application for PP and printing this forum as part of your resume'. Nice to see you again me2. I love your dedication. Every man needs a woman who hunts. and golfs too (since I'm dreaming, I thought I'd add that as well) ;-)
smit park anyone, circa 1908? what? where? huh? me2 wants to know.
Marley Says~ I saw this post after the 3rd clue came out, and wanted to answer so bad, but couldn't. So now I'll let you know- It was changed to "Norman Mears Park" shortly before 1975. He He!
Norman BATES of Pshyco! Bates Ave runs to Mounds and 'BATES motel' house there! Norman Macclean who wrote 'A river runs through it' which Macclean Ave runs into Bates at Mounds! ::sigh:: and the actual connection...Norman Mears!
Well, already have the truck cleaned out and put some things away...grocery shopping tomarrow and cleaning! But no new HOOVER hard wood floor vacuum for me (that was what I was getting if I found it)
so it does oops
and so does this post!
http://websports.8m.com/marleyking.html
Well I'm glad it's at least a downtown park and NOT Como. Thanks MK and ATH. I'm pretty sure you'll see a bunch of us out there tonight. See ya there. Be standing by....
: > )
JAKE JUST LEFT FOR COMO
THE COIN HAS BEEN FOUND!!!! It was found under a clock post on the north side of Mears Park in downtown St. Paul. He found it at about 11:00 PM. CONGRATS JAKE!!! You deserve it since there was a few of us who looked under that same post not more that 5 minutes earlier. It was nice since most of us hunters were right there when he found it. I'll try and post a picture later.
Thanks for a great hunt Marley & Artemis. I think we figured out almost all the clues but are looking forward to the explanations. I assume that #12 was to be something regarding time?
Congratulations Jake! It was nice that we got there in time for you to find it.
Inks and I spent part of the evening down on Harriet Island. We figured it wasn't there, but it was nice checking out the new park.
I'm looking forward to seeing the clue explanations. I assume they'll be posted by morning.
Going to bed now.
Goodnight, SCDs and MCL!
Nice C-ing you again TV. MCL & SCD's 2U as well.
I'm sure that me2 will have better pix than this one.
I added a picture and it didn't post. Is there a size limit or something?
I'm spent.
Congrats to Jake!!!
Yes the coin has been found!!!
All 13 clues and explanations will be coming shortly!!
Art wants to know if there are any guesses for clue 7
And I would like to know if any body figured out the first line in clue 1(except those who I already told)
I'll take a stab. Clue 7 referenced the stairs across the street which were in line and led directly to the clock? Clue 1 referenced a historic marker. At least that's what I think. What do I know though?
Well those both would work but that is not what we had in mind.
Seems there were a couple of history markers in the park, but no, I never noticed anything more special than that in clue #1.
Was the past marker that damn clock? Stand tall
Its a past marker you'll see =
Its at Mears park you'll see : )
Very good! Was #7 about the Subway sandwich shop across the street?
Been shiting my pants since clue 1
I can sleep tonight whawhoooooo!
Ok I am going to let art in here and type in the explanations.
Expect them in a 1/2 hour or so
I hope everyone had fun and dont want to kill the king! : )
I'm heading out. Jake's waiting at Buggs. Thanks again you guys. That was fun having it confined to a DOWNTOWN city block and it's 70 degrees out. Nice job
I don't want to kill the King. I just want to pass out. Get sleep. Get on with my life.
Picture of the coin going in the cup!
ClueMaster-thats half right! It was Subway and Skyway in view from the treasure spot.
#7 for me without seeing the clue right now
had to do with the stairs that were in the Galtier Plaza and you can only see from up top by DAY cause the placelocks up at night :)
::placing guide back onto bookshelf:: :(
glenwood inglewood
Cluemaster, sorry man. I didn't mak it to Bugg's till about 12:15. Had two beers and figured that if you hadn't showed up by 12:30 you weren't coming, must have JUST missed you. Anyways, i'll be there again tomorrow night, i'll buy you a couple then. Again, sorry about that!!! Marley and Artemis, thanks.
This was Me2 and Ares put all together (sorry Ares if I forgot anything) you can add to it if you like-but I had to type it all out and see it in full) I look forward to seeing the true meanings---heres ours...
#1 beloved St Paul=Galtier
   see a history marker
   clock (note at Swede actually caught the "treasure is there"
   litterally clue but forgot at Mears)
#2 drinking fountain
   stay away from the dog area
   glenwood/englewood may have been apart of what its hidden in KIDSidea FIRST
#3 BANK #1 (don't know anyone who didn't figure this one out)
    Insty prints neon
#4 your web address
    Commonwealth Land Title is in Lowertown (I think that was the
    clue that put me to lowertown Marley)
    Possible number game with possibilites of 12 13 41 8 11
    (looks like lotto time)
#5 saw the satellite-- KIDSfound it FIRST! (not a BIFFY :()
    lights on both sides of the park beaming down from the bldgs.
    and lights in trees on sides of walkways
    (but first we thougt of the christmas lights there in winter)
    No parking lot and dont dig in flower beds
#6 didnt get the history thing
    dog park-Mears (now I remember-the moment that clue was posted
    Ares IM'd me a 'noooooooooo' and I did the same to him!)
    lots of rocks in Mears
#7 Stairs in Galtier
    Maybe a right turn sign
    Possible Today newspaper box
#8 & #9 'River' runs through the park-- protruding squaresKIDS
         found it FIRST but I counted the squares-just the wrong side
         of the bandshell earlier that morning 12 (queen) squares on
         one side and 13 (King) on the backside! (heard Mears was a
         previous Winter Carnival KING). Backstage KIDSidea
         of backstage passes but weird I got musical notes from it
         and still got the same bandshell from it. Baptist
         Mass=Baptist Hill area easy for me :) (but why you chose
         that wording will be interesting to see) that was my
         favorite clue :)
#10 Sibley was a gimmie (thanks) and Wacouta-
and esculant=TEN CLUES! --oh yeah the award winning monument-Ares remembered it there! and edible food was the Farmers Market near by.
Not sure if we forgot anything here -but you could not have picked a better park-except that Mears may have been where I would put it :)
I tried to call you just to tell you that I wanted to hug you for putting it there but no-one answered at around 6:30.
Marley? Artemis? Thank you sincerely-
Congratulations Jake
and we sat together only hours ago at COMO talking about life and death! ::sigh:: don't EVER even think about telling me its there again or the later of the two will be you...lol
::I hear the clock striking midnight for this princess::
How ironic is that? but it was actually 11 pm
::glass slipper has been lost::
#1 & 7 were already explained me2
those were what Kids Ares and Me2 got from the clues before any explinations
had to do with the stairs that were in the Galtier Plaza and you can only see from up top by DAY cause the placelocks up at night :)
HeHe! we watched the park from there tonight, and saw a few people looking! Its not as closed as you'd think at night!
edible food was the Farmers Market near by.
ooh good one! You don't know how bad I wanted to use the Farmers Market, but couldn't think of a good way to do it! Marley picked the word esculent, and added the words "By" and "and" to that clue to make it say "Bates"
Our original plan was to steer people towards Swede Hollow, will be interesting to hear why people went to certain places and not others though.
Sorry me2 - I did see that. Oops
Clue 1
Its a past marker you'll see
which park where, eventually
but for now just stand tall
knowing it's in our beloved St.Paul.
As well as meaning it was at a park its been at in the past, “Its a past marker “ anagrammed is “Its at Mears Park” , and the usual park in St. Paul clue.
A square on a circle
and a circle on a square
find both of these
the treasure is there.
“A square on a circle” is the square base of the clock which is on a circle of cement “a circle on a square” refers to the circular layout of the courtyard on the square park
Clue 2
Around our coin
there's two big woods
both from California,
and when its hot
you drink alot
of water, not Ammonia.
The two big woods from CA are Inglewood, a current city, and Glenwood, a historical town and current winery. The coin was hidden in a Glenwood Inglewood water cup, from the water cooler at Marley’s work. Ammonia simply rhymes with California, and was capitalized because thats how I picture it on a bottle.
Clue 3
Flashy red neon
in sky blue,
to see more than one
is half the clue.
Besides the First Bank 1 in the sky , and the red and blue clock seen in Galtier Plaza, both visible from the park, there were two red and blue neon signs across the street, visible from the clock.
Clue 4
Kings and Queens control the wealth,
Common sense can save your health.
Eight more clues now have some fun,
Come on ya'll and get you sum.
Originally designed to be a red herring to get people to look at our website, we discovered that “Common Wealth Land Title” was across the street, as well as the address 215, which sums up to eight.
Clue 5
From where I hide
you'll see a satellite,
and on the side
bright lights at night.
There is a satellite dish on the roof of the stage, which you can see if bending down to the coins level, and there are bright lights shining down on the park from the tops of the buildings on the side of the park.
Cars come and go
but you can't see a lot,
you'll see some flowers
but don't dig in their plot.
There is a lot of traffic, but no parking lot. There are flowers in the park, but the coin is not among them.
Clue 6
If history's your thing
then it might be a crime
searching through archives
to decipher this rhyme
The key word in this part of the clue is History, telling you its in the Historical district, not to search through history for this clue.
If of the future you are fonder
and you prefer to sit and ponder,
choose a rock or bench o'er yonder
to watch the dogs and people wander.
There are rocks and benches to sit on in the park, and a specific area for walking dogs (according to the THG) “o’er yonder” away from the treasures hiding spot.
I found BATES and the joke was "maybe it is to bait us" funny it worked! and Bates was an enterance at Swede-perfect---and Pabst in Baptist Mass!
Ares and I were gonna walk up to the top of those stairs tonight a couple of times and we didn't - Ares saw the neon clock and showed a couple of us :)
Clue 7
If you stood up above in the day
or took the stairs down below you'd say,
This surely must be the right way
I'm finding that treasure today!
The way up above is the skyway, the way down below is the Subway sandwich shop in Galtier , both are visible from the clock.
Clue 8
A true story, book, and movie
starring Brad, directed by Robbie.
This clue will help you find your wish,
if you think of mountains and how to fly fish.
“A River Runs Through It” refers to the man made stream running through the park.
Clue 9
By the award winning landscape
and the quaint little trails,
the multi-colored stone
esculent nature prevails.
There is a Landscaping award plaque on a rock, small dirt trails through the grass, noticeably different colored stone, and a few different edible and medicinal flowers such as echinacea, pansies, and marigolds.
Clue 10
If you want a musicians pass
look for thirteen squares protruding,
but if you'd rather a Baptist mass
you'll have to do some good sleuthing.
A musicians pass is a backstage pass, there were thirteen small squares protruding from the back of the stage. *Baptist refers to “Baptist Hill” which the park area used to be known as. (I had no idea if Baptists went to mass or not, I guess not)
Once it was high
now its down low,
used to be open
now its enclosed.
*It used to be the highest hill, but through development is now the lowest area of downtown, it used to be open land with a few trees but is now enclosed by the buildings that surround it. *Taken from the signs at the park
Clue 11
There Once was a man from Mendota
who was first elected in Dakota.
He once was a Colonel,
three times a General,
for successful battles against the Wacouta.
Refers to Henry H. Sibley- Sibley St, and Wacouta St
Clue 12
Even though we were up front
in the very first line
We’ll still help you out
in this rat race sublime.
Telling you to pay attention to the first line of the first clue to confirm its at Mears Park
Find two seats
and line them up
stand in the middle
before time is up!
Time refers to the clock which is between two benches, you can line up the clock with the address 215 across the street( sum 8)
Clue 13 (Just in case we got lucky, and because there were 13 clues when it was there in 1975)
Beneath the hands of time
in the Lowertown park called Mears
search well with your fingers and mind
and soon we‘ll be hearing your cheers!
Tells you exactly where the coin is, at Norman Mears Park under the clock, you couldn’t see it with your eyes, but if your mind told you it was there, you could find it with your fingers.
current winery told ya I expected a wine clue :)
Oh NO! NOT another NORMAN!
except for the thing being too far back for my fingers...this was most excellent! THANKS!
Great job! Your next step should be filling out an application for PP and printing this forum as part of your resume'.
Nice to see you again me2. I love your dedication. Every man needs a woman who hunts. and golfs too (since I'm dreaming, I thought I'd add that as well) ;-)
From the St Paul History Board~
ares "St Paul History" 5/1/02 6:18am
smit park anyone, circa 1908? what? where? huh? me2 wants to know.
Marley Says~ I saw this post after the 3rd clue came out, and wanted to answer so bad, but couldn't. So now I'll let you know- It was changed to "Norman Mears Park" shortly before 1975. He He!
Norman BATES of Pshyco!
Bates Ave runs to Mounds and 'BATES motel' house there!
Norman Macclean who wrote 'A river runs through it' which Macclean Ave runs into Bates at Mounds! ::sigh:: and the actual connection...Norman Mears!
You're Welcome, and Thank you too guys! We had alot of fun!
Ares and I talked about it this week and figured that out about Smit being mispelled and at Mears-thanks! funny that happened.
Got a kick outa Jake -he says, no woman who hunts is a woman for him and within 15 minutes-you shoulda seen him stare
at
this one person (nameless) :)
Well, already have the truck cleaned out and put some things away...grocery shopping tomarrow and cleaning! But no new HOOVER hard wood floor vacuum for me (that was what I was getting if I found it)
a toast to a cleaner home :)
lol, Jake needs a hunting woman!
Sorry about the Hoover :(
Cheers to a cleaner house, and a "normal" life for atleast a couple of months : )
Nice to see you Lil Digger & mommy :)
he looked like he had fun-