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Luv2Fly

Well looks like they finally came out with a ballot for Florida that the challenged voters can understand.

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Wed, 10/09/2002 - 3:03 PM Permalink
Common Sense C…

OMG! I love that voting machine! It looks alot like the entry exam for the Marine Corps.

Wed, 10/09/2002 - 3:55 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

Careful CSC ! :) Them's Fightin words ! ;)

Wed, 10/09/2002 - 4:00 PM Permalink
THX 1138



LOL, on both counts.

Thu, 10/10/2002 - 5:44 AM Permalink
Luv2Fly

Some people have way too much time on their hands. And I looked at her distinguished collection. Ummm has anyone ever seen flat chips that look like that ? I especially like the Vietnam chip that wouldn't hold together in a bag let alone to pick it up and complete with the island ! And the picture of her,,, does she look like a fun date or what ?

Thu, 10/10/2002 - 2:23 PM Permalink
jethro bodine

from the above article:

If Houdinis on the bench can escape the laws that are on the books and substitute their own personal preferences as the basis for their rulings, then democracy becomes an illusion and the reality becomes a judicial ad-hocracy, overruling whatever laws the judges don't like, whether explicitly or by free-ranging "interpretation."

Fri, 10/11/2002 - 7:05 AM Permalink
Luv2Fly

I don't know about you guys but the election in Iraq today should be a real nail-biter. In his last tough election in 95' he got 99.96 percent of the vote. Of course then and now he's the only name on the ballot. His opponents keep "dropping" out of the race.

Tue, 10/15/2002 - 1:47 PM Permalink
THX 1138



And those that vote against him (NO) end up with a bullet in their head.

What kind of election is that anyway, Yes or No?

What a joke. Why even bother?

Tue, 10/15/2002 - 6:04 PM Permalink
314159

I vote for Saddam, I believe he understands me and my camel.
<please my Iraqi friend, please point the gun away now before my camel runs away>

The problem with the left is you only remember a year ago, the problem with the socialists
 is you keep bringing up Hitler and Chamberlain-----we defeated them! (OW, what the heck was that? What they smashed our buildings? What? The same ones that blew up the Cole? Wait, no, no, the same ones who took US citizens hostage in 1979? that cannot be right.) Yes Jimmy Carter jus got the 'Piece' prize.

The Nobel Peace Prize was just awarded to Jimmy Carter. Although Mr. Carter's efforts to convince Egypt to
                        recognize Israel's right to exist was a genuine achievement, he
                        has otherwise continuously betrayed the principles on which
                        peace depend.
  

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20021016-54406610.htm

You know, I really do like turtles, trees and open land. Is Carter just off a bit?

Wed, 10/16/2002 - 3:50 PM Permalink
THX 1138



That, was a great article Apple.

btw: What does the 314159 mean?

Nevermind, ares explained to this idiot what it meant. DUH!

Wed, 10/16/2002 - 7:33 PM Permalink
THX 1138




http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/3368154.html

Two years ago, "anything and everything" George W. Bush had done, including his 1976 drunken-driving conviction, was worthy of voters' consideration, according to Hubert (Buck) Humphrey IV.

Humphrey, then directing Al Gore's presidential campaign in Minnesota, is now the DFL nominee for secretary of state. And now Republicans are saying his own two drunken-driving incidents years ago are also fair game.

"The hypocrisy is the problem here," Bill Walsh, deputy director of the state GOP, said Tuesday. "Humphrey shot off his mouth in 2000 about Bush's past and he had the same thing on his record."

Hypocrisy seems to be a requirement to be a Democrat.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 7:34 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

"I made bad choices at that time in my life and I've moved forward," he said Tuesday. "I'm not proud at all of my driving record."'

Seems to me he's owning up to it. Did Buck say his driving record shouldn't be an issue?

The voters, not the Republicans will decide if it's an issue.,

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 7:42 AM Permalink
THX 1138



Of course he's owning up to it NOW.

Duh

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 7:44 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

Did Buck say his driving record shouldn't be an issue?

Is he saying "elect me, because I have a better driving record than my opponent."

Was he running against George W. Bush in 2000?

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 7:50 AM Permalink
THX 1138



You don't see the hypocrisy? What a surprise.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 7:59 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

Last time.

Gonna answer the questions or not, Mr. Articulated Thought?

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 8:08 AM Permalink
THX 1138



Did Buck say his driving record shouldn't be an issue?

Of course not, he couldn't say that now. Not after what he did in 2000.

Is he saying "elect me, because I have a better driving record than my opponent."

LOL Not that I'm aware of. I hope he's got a better platform than that. :-)

Was he running against George W. Bush in 2000?

No.

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Now, wasn't it hypocritical for him to use that considering he was also guilty of the same thing?

Why didn't he offer it up at the time?

Because he'd look like a hypocrite?

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 9:11 AM Permalink
Luv2Fly

Forget it JT.

Their slogan should be, "Do as I say, not as I do"

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 9:40 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

"Now, wasn't it hypocritical for him to use that considering he was also guilty of the same thing?"

If he was running against George W. Bush, and bitching about his DWI,. then he'd look pretty stupid.

Anyway, the public decides if it's an issue, not the Republicans.

"I hope he's got a better platform than that. :-)"

I would hope his opponent does to, but if they're deciding to try and make this an issue, maybe they don't.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 9:41 AM Permalink
THX 1138



You didn't answer my questions.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 9:45 AM Permalink
THX 1138



I would hope his opponent does to, but if they're deciding to try and make this an issue, maybe they don't.

That explains why they used it in 2000.

::snicker::

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 9:46 AM Permalink
THX 1138



But that's what makes it so fun!

:-)

I agree to not use ::snicker:: anymore.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 10:00 AM Permalink
Luv2Fly

No problem with me. I shall remove the word "snicker" from my vocab. (unless of course i'm eating one) Speaking of which..................LUNCH. I'm thinking Chinese today...

Sonofabitch ! It's snowing. UUUUUGhhhhhhhh

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 10:00 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

"Why didn't he offer it up at the time?"

You'd have to ask him.

Because he'd look like a hypocrite?

It seems everyone looks like a hypocrite to you. You've become a busy little hypocrisy cop.

"That explains why they used it in 2000."

If the Strib is right, Fox News broke the DWI story. Seems to me they put it in play.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 10:02 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

Snow, I'll take.

Florida, I can't.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 10:11 AM Permalink
Luv2Fly

Yea, it's snowing, it's kinda pretty I was just hoping for a bit longer of a fall.

AND BILL IF YOU ARE IN FLORIDA ALREADY.....good for you, just don't rub it in or I'll have to snicker.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 10:19 AM Permalink
THX 1138



Come on Rick, answer the questions.

THX: Wasn't it hypocritical for him to use that considering he was also guilty of the same thing?

Rick: If he was running against George W. Bush, and bitching about his DWI,. then he'd look pretty stupid.

Pffft!

So because he wasn't running against Bush, he was in the clear and wasn't a hypocrite, even though he was guilty of the same thing?


THX: Why didn't he offer it up at the time?"

Rick: You'd have to ask him.

I'm asking you. What are your thoughts on why he didn't offer it up?


THX: Because he'd look like a hypocrite?

Rick: It seems everyone looks like a hypocrite to you. You've become a busy little hypocrisy cop.

That may be. Call me a hypocrisy cop, I don't care. I still want to know if you think he is a hypocrite?


THX: "That explains why they used it in 2000."

That was a joke.


I said:
"I hope he's got a better platform than that"

In response to your comment:
Is he saying "elect me, because I have a better driving record than my opponent."

You said this, in regards to my comment:
I would hope his opponent does to, but if they're deciding to try and make this an issue, maybe they don't.

I said:
That explains why they used it in 2000.

Meaning, he used it in 2000 as an issue because his party didn't have a platform.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 10:35 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

"Wasn't it hypocritical for him to use that considering he was also guiltyof the same thing?"

You missed this. I did, too.

"Humphrey's drunken-driving arrestsoccurred in 1993 and 1994 in Washington, D.C. Neither resulted in a conviction, he said; in the first case, he was required to attend a safe-driving class, and in the second the evidence was insufficient for prosecution, he said."

Now I can say what it really is. Skanky Republican cheap-ass bullshit.

NEXT!!!!

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 11:55 AM Permalink
Common Sense C…

Neither resulted in conviction? How could that be if he was REQUIRED to attend a "safe-driving class"?

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 11:59 AM Permalink
Luv2Fly

Ahh, it's only cheap when your opposition does it.

Thanks for clarifying that.

Depends on the meaning of the word convicted I guess.

The new Democratic party slogan. Do as I say, not as I do.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 12:10 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

"Depends on the meaning of the word convicted I guess. "

I'm not a lawyer, but I think there is a difference between arrest and conviction.

I guess for a Republican, if you're sitting in the police car, you're guilty.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 12:12 PM Permalink
THX 1138



You missed this. I did, too.

You never directly answered the question.

Skanky Democrat cheap-ass bullshit.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 12:20 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

I'm not the one parsing guilt.

He must just have been really unlucky to have to defend himself in less than 2 years. And that he was REQUIRED to attend a safe driving class.

Frankly I don't care that he brought it out. I don't like it but that's the slimeball tactics they use. I think it's pretty lame but he shouldn't have brought it up considering his situation.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 12:20 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

This Republican tacitic stinks to high heaven.

Your are desperate men.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 12:23 PM Permalink
THX 1138



I'm not the drunkard, that attempted to use another man's drunkeness, to win an election.

Now that, Rick, is desperate.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 12:25 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

Hah! Sure.

Did you know he wasn't convicted and brought this up anyway, JT?

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 12:30 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

Rick,

This Republican tacitic stinks to high heaven.

Your are desperate men.

I think it's lame when either side does it. I don't recall hearing if you were outraged when they brought up a DWI in 2000 during the Presidential race. So where you ?

LOL Hey we just finally learned to use the Democrats own tactics.

Think I'll head up to the Red Lake reservation to help any voters who "might" be out of town fill out that absentee ballot.
Next, Think I'll cruise Chicago ave. on election day with a rented bus, (maybe a green one;) a load of cash and cartons of cigs with Coleman stickers on them then I'll "help" them fill out thier voter registration card since we have those "relaxed" standards here. Then I'll light them a Normie 100 err I mean Camel and send them off to the polls. Then I'll write the whole damn thing off as a "voter registration" effort. If that don't work I'll go to the courts.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 12:32 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

Now you're making things up, Rob.

I don't know what to say to that. It's just crazy.

If this fall election tips in any way Demcratic, it will all be because it was stolen to you guys.

Claiming people were DWI when they weren't, charging fraud before anyone votes.

This is what it's come to.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 12:37 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

What am I making up ?

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 12:38 PM Permalink
THX 1138



I think the cigarette thing happened in St Louis and the mentally ill/homeless thing happened in Milwaukee.

Both of which happened before the election last year.

Anyone here about what happened in Coates and the strip bar with 94 voters using it as their place of residence?

No election has happened yet, yet they're being charged with voter fraud.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 12:46 PM Permalink
THX 1138



If this fall election tips in any way Demcratic, it will all be because it was stolen to you guys.

No, I'm well aware we live in a majority Democrat state. It's a wonder to me that a Republican ever gets elected to office in this state.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 12:54 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

Did you know Buck Humphrey wasn't convicted and brought this up anyway, JT?

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 12:58 PM Permalink
Luv2Fly

If this fall election tips in any way Demcratic, it will all be because it was stolen to you guys.

Not at all. I want fair elections. Some apparently don't. Anyone who messes with that I would take to task regardless of party. Period.

Claiming people were DWI when they weren't, charging fraud before anyone vote.

Yea, gee who would drag a DWI into it ?

This is what it's come to.

Yea accusing someone of something without proof. Remember Jon Grunseth ?

The absentee ballots are being messed with now. Voter fraud doesn't happen just on election day. It doesn't have to be Nov. 6th for voter fraud to happen. I guess it depends to some who is doing the fraud or violating rules depending on who is doing it.

Funny you claim we're desparate. On the contrary. I think Republicans have a very good chance at gaining in the state, the senate and congress. Desparation would be buying smokes for voters. Ignoring the primary and dropping out a candidate because your guy was getting kicked in the polls. Desperation would be trying to mobilize people to come here and register young people to vote under suspect circumstances. It would be an effort to collect many absentee ballots of people that don't live there. It would be then running to the court because you don't like the outcome. Enjoy these days Rick, it's the last you're going to see of the immediate DFL lever pulling that has gone on historically in our great state and elsewhere. The times are changing.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 1:04 PM Permalink
THX 1138



Did you know Buck Humphrey wasn't convicted and brought this up anyway, JT?

I gathered that. I figure he brought it up now because he knew someone else would if he didn't.

Why didn't he bring it up in 2000 when he was going after Dubya about the same type of deal?

If you can't see the hypocrisy of what he did in 2000, there's no further point in discussing it.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 1:08 PM Permalink
Common Sense C…

Rick - "I'm not a lawyer, but I think there is a difference between arrest and conviction."

That was my point. He claims he was not convicted, yet was FORCED, REQUIRED, whatever you want to call it, to attend a "safe-driving" course. I'm not a lawyer either, but last time I checked, they didn't FORCE innocent people to take courses. It would be like being found NOT-GUILTY of murder, but I think we will throw you in jail anyway because you look shifty.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 1:44 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

"Why didn't he bring it up in 2000 when he was going after Dubya about the same type of deal?"

Read Carefully, JT.

Buck Humphrey was not convicted of DWI. It's not the same type of deal.

And all you talk won't change that.

"I figure he brought it up now because he knew someone else would if he didn't."

No, sleazy, cynical, opportunistic Republicans brought it up because they're desperate to defeat him, and they'd distort his criminal record to do it.

You bring down a Humphrey. and you end up in the American Spectator.Centerfold.

Torpedo his politcal career early, and he won't come back to haunt you.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 2:10 PM Permalink
jethro bodine

It is apparent that he got a sweet deal. Take the course and then the charge would be dismissed on proof of completion. It happens for "special" people.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 2:51 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

Nothing's apparent, jethro, except the Republican Party's sleazeball tacitics.

Like DC police, lawyers and judges really care about the background of a 30 something Department of Agriculture employee with ties to a Minnnesota political family, none of whom held national office at the time.

So you think Skip Humphrey could write a better deal for him? I don't think so. They wouldn't know him from Adam.

They would hang him out so he could end up in the Washington gossip columns.

Thu, 10/17/2002 - 3:38 PM Permalink