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Why does the media stifle conservatism and commercialism? I look in the newspapers and see nothing supporting the war in Iraq. I turn on FOX and never see any ads. Thank God we have AM radio. These sensible patriots who dare to broadcast from base stations in their homes, at their own expense, are saving us all from the Communist Driven Media.
Dr Laura, Rush, Colonel North, John Sununu, and the other pundits who dare stand up to evil-doers like Dan Rather and Marvin Zimmler, we all tip our hats to you.
Only from the mind of..... Duane Barely
Actually, I like talk radio. It is almost 100% conservative, and it's just roaring along. A few years ago the liberals tried to sneer it out of existence, but that didn't work, so they decided to fight fire with fire and start their own radio talk shows. The ones that actually got on the air didn't last. Talk radio seems to have sparked a strong response from people who don't see or hear their views represented in mainstream media outlets.
"Talk radio seems to have sparked a strong response from people who don't see or hear their views represented in mainstream media outlets."
Pffft! If you're so insecure you need to have some affirming you views constantly, what does that say about the person?
Liberals are poor at talk radio, much to their credit.
I can listen to Rush or Jason about once a month.
They're both so one sided I can't stand it.
In their minds the Republicans can do no wrong and the Democrats can't do anything right.
I rarely listen to Liberal talk radio and can't even remember the name of the guy I've heard a few times on KSTP. That guy drives me nuts just because of his politics.
You have to take it for what it is. It's not thoughtful discussion. Those guys push emotional buttons and manipulate their listeners. The more angry an exchange they can provoke, the better "radio" they make.
And it seems to me it's building momentum.
A liberal can't get a word in edgewise on talk radio, because expressing their opinions might require more than three sentences. It's not "right is right" and "wrong is wrong." So they make poor discussion and can easily get shouted down.
If you're so insecure you need to have some affirming you views constantly, what does that say about the person?
Of course that is exactly what liberals need. They have been using the three major networks for exactly that purpose. There was a time when you couldn't get hear conservative views anywhere except in a few political campaigns. It appeared that to those people that held those views that they were isolated and out of the mainstream. Turns out that that was wrong. Conservatives are the mainstream.
You have to take it for what it is. It's not thoughtful discussion. Those guys push emotional buttons and manipulate their listeners. The more angry an exchange they can provoke, the better "radio" they make.
Keep believing the propaganda that liberals are more thoughtful than conservatives. It is a lie but if it comforts you, go for it.
jethro:
I don't know if liberals are more thoughtful than conservatives. If you think what takes place on talk radio is thoughtful I would have to say that I think most liberals are more thoughtful than you.
If you think what takes place on talk radio is thoughtful I would have to say that I think most liberals are more thoughtful than you.
I would have to say that some callers on Rush are not thoughtful. I would say that others are. I think Rush is thoughtful. He analyzes what is going on in politics and attempts to explain it. Liberals don't like his conclusions but that doesn't mean that they were not reached in a thoughtful manner.
Rick, I might agree with some of what you say about the emotional nature of talk radio. I think it gets emotional because yes it makes for ratings but also because people are passionate about issues.
I think what you aren't seeing and it was a point made by Muskwa when she said.
You responded.
Aside from being condescending as hell which seems to be modeous operendi for you as of late you miss the bigger point. It has nothing to do with people being insecure. Now are there some that are ? Sure I suppose. But generalizing like that and trying to write off evryone who listens as insecure is too easy.
I know you'll never admit it but there's a huge majority of people who believe that there is a media bias. The only time I've heard you admit it is when people discuss FOX due to it's conservative slant. Funny how that seems to be the only news in your book that's biased. I'm sure there are no others. Then you go on to say that if you're looking for it you'll find it. Well you must be looking then. To me it's not a matter of looking for it, many times it's blatant. To many who aren't looking either wether it be a conservative or liberal are being influenced sometimes without even realizing it and many times without the reporter having ill intent but it happens many times.
I would admit FOX is biased as are many other so called "news" programs. Just biased in a different way. But ask yourself why FOX's ratings have soared. It's not talk radio and yet they seem to be doing well when CNN and MSNBC are losing ground fast. It means there's a market for it, same as talk radio, now you admttedly don't like either and that's fine. But to listen to some people talk they would love to ban it if they could, knowing they can't do that, they'll accuse it as Daschle did of being somehow dangerous. Sounds McCarthy like to me, much like many others tactics because they despise talk radio. There are many news programs and outlets I would consider to be very biased to the left as would others but I don't ever remember seeing people using those same tactics.
Back to Muskwa's original point of how talk radio gives a venue to those who feel that their viewpoint goes unrepresented in the mainstream media.
Before talk radio where would a conservative be able to talk, espouse or even see someone who represented their views in the mainstream media ?.......Where would they ? The editorials in the papers ? Yea, good luck there other than an occasional article. How about the letters to the editor ? Many printed aren't. How about columnisits in papers ? How about mainstream news magazines ? Not a chance. How about the network news or their news shows such as 20/20 etc ? Again, it would be tough to find. How about college campus' ? Yea' sure. How about public radio or public t.v that we are forced to fund ? That's laughable. How about Hollywood ? Ah yes a bastion of conservative thought.
So again I wouldn't expect someone who's views are expressed more in the media to feel that way, I probably wouldn't see the problem either if the shoe was on the other foot so I totally understand your posistion. But recently especially after the election I have heard some of the most intolerant, hateful, fearful and downright sick and close minded things come from the left. Opposing views are apparently o.k in some peoples eye as long as it doesn't oppose them. The left nor the right have no corner on that market. So I do hope that the left continues to be blind to the fact that their is media bias, it gives talk radio and other conservative outlets more ratings and gives the left fits and frankly it's fun to watch.
I think Limbaugh has lots of friends on the insidewho give him pretty important background.
So he probably has some opinions based on deep background from people he trusts and he filters it all through his point of view. Fair enough.
But he actually may represent the top of the scale -- the caviar of right wing talk radio, if you will.
I think a real difference between liberal and conservative media is that conservatives, as a general rule, will admit they are conservative while liberals insist they are not liberal.
Okay, Rick, list the conservative talk radio shows that you find "not thoughtful."
Michael Savage, Ollie North, Laura Ingram, Randall Terry (I don't know if he still has a show), Liddy.
That's a good start. Imagine all the local guys though..
Boggles the mind.
Rick,
I don't know if you saw my post to you a few back or not. If you did and don't care to respond that's cool too, jsut wondering.
Michael Savage, Ollie North, Laura Ingram, Randall Terry (I don't know if he still has a show), Liddy.
You must spend a lot of time listening to talk radio. I didn't even know that Laura Ingram had a show. I can tell you that when she is on the talk shows that I have seen on TV she is quite thoughtful.
I did spend time listening to talk radio. Sometimes it played while I worked. Not much anymore. I need a clear head.
Laura Imgram: Saturday mornings on AM 1280. The station that calls itself The Patriot.
Just for you, Rick
Go around in circles any faster Andy and you'll turn into butter.
"..especially after the election I have heard some of the most intolerant, hateful, fearful and downright sick and close minded things come from the left."
Some of it's been pretty shrill. I think Democrats in Minnesota haven't recovered from the loss of Wellstone. Raw, angry and sad. All of it's still there. I'd like to see all of that channeled into something more positive, but those kind of things take time.
"So I do hope that the left continues to be blind to the fact that their is media bias, it gives talk radio and other conservative outlets more ratings and gives the left fits and frankly it's fun to watch. "
But it looks like charming Republican smugness is back in fashion.
Hmmm you mean like the smugness seen from the left. Garrison Kellior. I rest my case.
Flyboy---your case is always at rest--- which is why you're such a non-factor.
Duane,
Stop hanging out at playgrounds trying to to pick up debating tactics and dates.
Duane Barely,,,,,,,,way over and way out.
Like the old billboard said about Laura Billings: 'Puts the Smart in Smart-mouth'
"I was certainly flattered by the attention I received from the few hundred Ditto-heads who wrote to me, concerned about my information-gathering skills, so I thought I'd return the favor. You know the other day, how Limbaugh said environmentalists should quit fretting about the oil spill on the tanker Prestige because when the Titanic sank, it didn't cause any oil leak disaster? Well, the reason there wasn't any oil leak is because the "Titanic" was fueled by 5,892 tons of coal. Just thought you seekers of truth would want to know."
Her column has many engaging comments from thoughtful, open-minded conservatives.
Her column has many engaging comments from thoughtful, open-minded conservatives.
She of course isn't going to put any intelligent comments from Republicans in her article, that would defeat her purpose.
Besides, I doubt any intelligent people from either side of the line would bother writing to her, but I could be wrong.
I thought Limbaugh was the most intelligent COM-CON there was--- that's why you people chose to have him represent your cause isn't it?
Who do you represent Duane ? Just curious.
Limbaugh doesn't represent me.
Like it or not--- he does. He is one of the most widely accepted voices for the COM-CON cause.
Not buying it Duane.
Yes, he's a Republican talk show host.
No one in their right mind believes he represents all Republicans.
No one ever said that Republicans are in their right minds.
DuaneBarry--- over and out
Duane------------------------LOL Out very soon.
Duane, no one ever said you were in your right mind.
I think AOL Time Warner owns my doonkey.
I'm just not getting the straight skinny anymore.
Oh yeah, it's evil to want to make money.
It's probably considered evil to worship money (read the first commandment from God)while simultaneously trying to force the word of God and Jesus Christ upon others through legislation--- (prayer in schools, banning evolution teachings in schools, faith-based anti-abortion action,etc) and at gunpoint--- (Bush's "crusade")--- and if it's not evil it's at least totally full of shit--- in true COM-CON style.
"I live in a bubble. That's what happens when you're president.
 That's just my life. It frustrates me not to be able to see this growing city.
 But that's just life in the bubble. That's what happens when you're president."
    -- the Unlected Moron in Europe last week
Bush is such a clumsy liar, it's a good thing the press never calls him on anything.
B.F., I agree with your statements more than I disagree with them.
If he had the brains to actually Lead, he would run for office and put his words to use trying to change things, instead of inciting people to hate each other based upon their political views, and their Sex.
Rush does lead. He has helped the Republican party to where it is today. Rush is no politician. To be a successful politician you have to be able to say things without offending very many people. In other words, to be a succesful politician you have to lie to a degree. Rush offends many people. But he is generally correct. There are many people that just can't handle the truth. People just like you, fold.
Limbaught spun Top 40 records and was a PR man for the Kansas City Royals. He's got a perfected delivery and he's soothing to conservatives because he says all the right things.
Guys like jethro hang on every word he says.
"He has helped the Republican party to where it is today."
Aside from a few, I bet that's exactly what Republicans do NOT want to read and they'd be loathe to admit it.
Many Republicans and Libertarians think highly of Rush.
Many policymakers?
I realize he was one of the friends of the '94 Congressional races. I've heard him give air time to Bush and Cheney and toss them a few softball questions.
Unless you're a mindreader you really don't know what they think. They might hang around him because of his influence.
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Who Commanded the Air Force to 'Stand Down' on 9-11?
  Click Here
Excerpt:
 ...there are at least twelve or more National Guard and Air Force installations in close proximity
 to the World Trade Center and Pentagon. Plus, Andrews Air Force Base is only ten miles from
 Washington, D.C. Why wasn’t something done to avert this catastrophe, and why isn’t the mainstream
 media asking some very hard questions regarding this deliberately ordered “crime”?
If we had a bigger hammer, we'd be banging on this question like crazy.
 The Air Force just sat there and watched those planes attack us.
 It was an hour between the WTC and the Pentagon crashes.
If my alarm goes off at 7:30, I can be at work before 8.
 Why are the guardians of the sky not as fast as Ol' Bartcop?
Why won't the press just ask that ONE QUESTION?
  Why is the press helping with the coverup?
Remember,
...if it was Clinton's zipper, it would be our business,
 and we would have a right to ask these questions.
But since we have 3000 dead, (3001 counting the Constitution)
 we're told to "Shut up and watch what we say."
Talking Back To Talk Radio - It's Time To Take Back Our Airwaves
by Thom Hartmann
"All Democrats are fat, lazy, and stupid," the talk-show host said in grave, serious tones as if he were uttering a sacred truth.
We were driving to Michigan for the holidays, and I was tuning around, listening for the stations I'd worked for two and three decades ago. I turned the dial. "It's a Hannity For Humanity house," a different host said, adding that the Habitat For Humanity home he'd apparently hijacked for his own self-promotion would only be given to a family that swears it's conservative. "No liberals are going to get this house," he said.
Turning the dial again, we found a convicted felon ranting about the importance of government having ever-more powers to monitor, investigate, and prosecute American citizens without having to worry about constitutional human rights protections. Apparently the combining of nationwide German police agencies (following the terrorist attack of February 1933 when the Parliament building was set afire) into one giant anti-terrorism agency, the Reichssicherheitshauptamt and its SchutzStaffel, was a lesson of history this guy had completely forgotten. Neither, apparently, do most Americans recall that the single most powerful device used to bring about the SS and its political master was radio.
That's a pretty good column. I learned about the fairness doctrine in college. Too late it was already pretty much shredded. But the people do own the airwaves, not the radio stations. So raising hell about bringing some balance in has merit.
But pressing the issue just elevates the right wing ranters in their own minds and in the minds of the people who listen to them.
It's starting to get self-defeating.
Not to mention it's funny to watch the hysteria.
I bet you can't wait until they televise the torching of the Constitutiion--- or better yet for you--- a roomful of Muslims.
The airwaves should be free. There is no reason they shouldn't be. If people wanted to hear what liberals want to say they would get air time. If there was money in it they would get the time. What is the real purpose of forcing radio stations to put liberals on? It won't be to get more listeners. It would to reduce the information avialbe out there so liberals won't have a spotlight on them while they subvert our society.