Hillary Clinton killed Vince Foster---everyone knows that. In the Billiard Room with the candlestick---the pundits of Agitprop on AM talk radio said so---and they know.
Besides, with desperate COM-CONs like Bush Cheney Asshcroft and the likes at the wheel---anything is possible. Prove that he wasn't assassinated.
Duane, I thought you were fucked before. Good God man get help....you are beyond fucked. If you had half a dick you would delete this folder you stupid, idiotic fool.
Remove it?---Stop simpering, boy---I have a right to free speech too---unless you want to send one of Bush's goon squads to silence my right. Or maybe you would like to try yourself tough guy?
This thread reflects everything that is wrongwith the Internet.
When they invented movable type and discussions started about widespread literacy, it scared people to death. Too much knowledge in the hands of too many fools.
When I look at the way people treat these technological wonders we have I'm beginning to wonder if, way back then, they might have been right.
I have neither proof for nor against the possibility that it was an assasination, but I wouldn't put it past the Republicans, they really want Norm to win. And I am still wondering how the plain could have been so badly off, it was facing the wrong direction. They say the pilot would have been "flying on instruments", and both pilots were trained well and had experience. Maybe there instruments were broken...
This thread reflects everything that is wrong with the Internet.
When they invented movable type and discussions started about widespread literacy, it scared people to death. Too much knowledge in the hands of too many fools.
When I look at the way people treat these technological wonders we have I'm beginning to wonder if, way back then, they might have been right.
Well a couple of things (p)Rick---First off, you are a participant on it too, what does that make you? --- Second, what's wrong with the internet is that it's too full of little weenies like you who have nothing better to do every day but chat in some electronic circle jerk ---such as this one---while the rest of the real world hold jobs and can actually function outside of the imaginary world of pseudonyms and flame-jobs. Maybe you should get a hobby, a girlfriend, visit your mother, pick up garbage in your community, go exercise, go outside, go to church, go to hell, volunteer for something, organize a demonstration (this doesn't mean attending one of those Dumbocrat-sponsored Starbucks sipping love-ins where nothing ever changes anything either), start a fight, fix your car, leave your room once a day, get laid, or do something constructive or even destructive---anything but pissing your life away on the internet. That's what wrong with the internet.
Bury bones, break up homes, send flowers by phone, take two drinks, go to shrinks, give up meat, rarely sleep, keep people as pets, train dogs, race rats, fill the attic with cash, bury treasure, store up leisure, but never relax at all.
Here's what bugs me most about the Wellstone crash:
In these paranoid, post 9/11 days, if someone so much as farts in the checkout line at Cub Foods, a SWAT team will be johnny on the spot to handcuff the "suspected terrorist" with those bigger kind of nylon ties that are commonly used to wrap electrical wiring, in the smaller, consumer size.
But when a prominent U.S. Senator's plane crazily crashes for no explicable reason...
NOBODY in politics or the media says boo about possible terrorism or foul play.
(What would be the immediate, first assumption if Air Force One dropped out of the sky?)
The "Wellstone is a hunted man" piece that the Liberal Slant article provides a link to was disturbing enough that I posted it in this forum when it first appeared.
Are you familiar with the story from last December when shrapnel bombs were found in Colombia during Wellstone's visit there?
Bombs found along the Colombian travel route of America's strongest, most prominent critic of Washington's reactionary and dangerous Plan Colombia can't that easily be dismissed as "unrelated" to a possible (likely?) assassination scheme.
Since the people who claim it had nothing to do with Wellstone MAY actually have been involved in an assassination plot -- if there was one -- we need to be a bit more suspicious.
As for the Eveleth crash...
Can you honestly tell me that thoughts of Paul's plane being "brought down" by his enemies didn't cross your mind when you first heard the news?
I really think we need to quit tossing around the word "extreme" so blithely and inaccurately.
I've done it too, so consider this self-criticism as much as anything else.
Paul Wellstone wasn't extreme, aside from being extremely well liked by ordinary people both in Minnesota and the nation. He was just a true, uncompromising liberal.
I don't feel you can credibly start calling anyone on the left extreme until you get, perhaps, to such groups as Bob Avakian's Maoist Revolutionary Communist Party.
Likewise on the right.
Jesse Helms, for example, should be termed "archconservative", not extreme.
The actual extremists begin to emerge at that end of the spectrum when you get to violent anti-abortionists, Klan and neo-Nazi elements.
We damage democracy -- the broadness of accepted, free opinion upon which real liberty depends -- when we attempt to make certain outlooks illegitimate via demonization, from the biased perspective of our own narrow partisanship.
You'd have to go substantially beyond Jethro Bodine and myself, for instance, to approach genuine extremism.
And, even then, unless such authentic extremists were into violence...THEIR voice and views should be graciously listened to.
JT, those right-wing, gun-tote'n, NRA, tobacco-chew'n, NASCAR-lov'n people from the Iron Range, all have shoulder fired stinger missiles don't ya know. Is that what Dennis is talking about? Or is there something even more sinister?
Killing political opponents because your candidate hasn't got a chance in hell is liberty? Oh that's right, you're one of those COM-CON hypocrites.
Although I didn't wish him dead, I also am glad another extremist is out of politics.
To be replaced by another. THX 1138, your governor-elect up there--- you know, the one who was outvoted by those completely turned off by extreme neo-Republican ideology--- have you been over to his house for Bang-On-The-Bible night yet? You really oughta try it. It's a Ma and Pa Six Pack Hootenanny kind-o-time.
I would use extreme caution flying in this day and age---obviously the Republicans are using their Manchurian Candidate pilots for their terroristic ends. Be especially weary of any pilot who claims they love to fly. Chances are he's a suicidal psychopath who really means he loves to die.
I've been following posts from various people in a number of forums regarding the suspicion that Paul's plane crash was an assassination.
Among the more interesting things pointed out:
What happened to the initial reports that there was an observed fire on the aircraft while it was still in the sky? Subsequent newscasts made no further mention.
One gentleman with Washington connections says "everyone on the Hill" is convinced it WAS an assassination.
Did you know that Mozambique's Samora Machel was killed by apartheid South African operatives who planted a false radio beacon on the ground, overriding an airport beacon?
There are unconfirmed reports that Ted Kennedy was also to have been on the plane, but cancelled.
Then there's this:
"One need not be a conspiracy theorist, or on the lunatic fringe to wonder at this 'accident', which so closely resembles that of Democrat Carnahan who had similar enemies, both flying in what has been rated the safest of aircraft, just before their election.
"It's all too convenient, especially as the Homeland 'Security' bill passes without anyone reading how they are signing away our freedoms. The 'Soul of the Senate' would have been quite an impediment to this outrage.
"Others have speculated on how easy it would have been to sabotage Wellstone's plane. And how will it ever be proven?"
Are you actually claiming that someone had enough control over the airport from which the plane took off to sabotage the plane, the witnesses, the newspapers, the FAA investigation, etc. to pull this off? Better loosen that tinfoil hat a little bit as I think it is effecting the circulation to the brain.
Come on Duane, this is crazy even for you.
Please provide some sort of proof that Wellstone was assasinated. PLEASE.
thump thump---thump thump---thump thump
Hey Columbo, let me know when you solve that Vincent Foster case.
Thump thump....thump thump....thump thump
Duane, quit it already with that damn thumping!
:-)
Look out,,,,,,,,,,,there's someone on the grassy knoll........!
Goin to the Roswell convention this year or does the date coinside with the annual Star Trek convention ? Tough decisions for you I bet.
Hillary Clinton killed Vince Foster---everyone knows that. In the Billiard Room with the candlestick---the pundits of Agitprop on AM talk radio said so---and they know.
Besides, with desperate COM-CONs like Bush Cheney Asshcroft and the likes at the wheel---anything is possible. Prove that he wasn't assassinated.
LOL, later Duane. Good luck with the new threads.
Prove that he wasn't assassinated.
LOL!
I asked you first!
So there.
I'm rubber, you're glue!
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Duane, I thought you were fucked before. Good God man get help....you are beyond fucked. If you had half a dick you would delete this folder you stupid, idiotic fool.
Remove it?---Stop simpering, boy---I have a right to free speech too---unless you want to send one of Bush's goon squads to silence my right. Or maybe you would like to try yourself tough guy?
Duane, chill out please.
You can create any wacky thread you want, just not here.
Or, I'll create a folder for you?
It's all there motive, facilities, desire.
This thread reflects everything that is wrongwith the Internet.
When they invented movable type and discussions started about widespread literacy, it scared people to death. Too much knowledge in the hands of too many fools.
When I look at the way people treat these technological wonders we have I'm beginning to wonder if, way back then, they might have been right.
I couldn't agree more Rick.
I have neither proof for nor against the possibility that it was an assasination, but I wouldn't put it past the Republicans, they really want Norm to win. And I am still wondering how the plain could have been so badly off, it was facing the wrong direction. They say the pilot would have been "flying on instruments", and both pilots were trained well and had experience. Maybe there instruments were broken...
It's the Republican's October Surprise.
Well a couple of things (p)Rick---First off, you are a participant on it too, what does that make you? --- Second, what's wrong with the internet is that it's too full of little weenies like you who have nothing better to do every day but chat in some electronic circle jerk ---such as this one---while the rest of the real world hold jobs and can actually function outside of the imaginary world of pseudonyms and flame-jobs. Maybe you should get a hobby, a girlfriend, visit your mother, pick up garbage in your community, go exercise, go outside, go to church, go to hell, volunteer for something, organize a demonstration (this doesn't mean attending one of those Dumbocrat-sponsored Starbucks sipping love-ins where nothing ever changes anything either), start a fight, fix your car, leave your room once a day, get laid, or do something constructive or even destructive---anything but pissing your life away on the internet. That's what wrong with the internet.
DuaneBarry --- over and out.
Scored a hit on Duane:
What is it they say down there in Tejas?
"It's the cut dog that yelps."
A few other ideas for internet junkies...
Bury bones, break up homes, send flowers by phone, take two drinks, go to shrinks, give up meat, rarely sleep, keep people as pets, train dogs, race rats, fill the attic with cash, bury treasure, store up leisure, but never relax at all.
Here's what bugs me most about the Wellstone crash:
In these paranoid, post 9/11 days, if someone so much as farts in the
checkout line at Cub Foods, a SWAT team will be johnny on the spot
to handcuff the "suspected terrorist" with those bigger kind of
nylon ties that are commonly used to wrap electrical wiring, in the
smaller, consumer size.
But when a prominent U.S. Senator's plane crazily crashes for no explicable reason...
NOBODY in politics or the media says boo about possible terrorism or foul play.
(What would be the immediate, first assumption if Air Force One
dropped out of the sky?)
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<NOBODY in politics or the media says boo about possible terrorism or foul play.>>
Have you read Ted Rall lately?
I did read Rall's piece.
And there's a pretty thought-provoking article over at Liberal Slant.
But they're hardly mainstream/establishment, which is what I was referring to.
The press did mention it and it was deemed to be highly unlikely that the Wellstone crash was related to terrorism.
Dennis, could you give me the link to the Liberal Slant article?
http://liberalslant.com/j3.htm
Here ya go.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/colombia001201.html
The "Wellstone is a hunted man" piece that the Liberal Slant article provides a link to was disturbing enough that I posted it in this forum when it first appeared.
Are you familiar with the story from last December when shrapnel bombs were found in Colombia during Wellstone's visit there?
Here's the link for that.
Hello Dennis,
Bombs found in a violent country like Colombia?...How unusual.
Are you familiar with the story from last December when shrapnel bombs were found in Colombia during Wellstone's visit there?
And as I recall it was totally unrelated to Wellstone.
The whole idea that anyone wanted Wellstone dead is simply wishful thinking on your part.
The truth is out there. Trust no one. Especially the smoking man.
Bombs found along the Colombian travel route of America's strongest, most prominent critic of Washington's reactionary and dangerous Plan Colombia can't that easily be dismissed as "unrelated" to a possible (likely?) assassination scheme.
Since the people who claim it had nothing to do with Wellstone MAY actually have been involved in an assassination plot -- if there was one -- we need to be a bit more suspicious.
As for the Eveleth crash...
Can you honestly tell me that thoughts of Paul's plane being "brought down" by his enemies didn't cross your mind when you first heard the news?
Can you honestly tell me that thoughts of Paul's plane being "brought down" by his enemies didn't cross your mind when you first heard the news?
Yes, I can honestly say it didn't cross my mind until the nutball reactionary left wingers started spewing that "They had Wellstone killed".
Wellstone did more for his enemies alive than he could do for them dead.
I would agree, Jethro. Wellstone was a perfect example of how extreme the left can be.
That's why I'll never understand how those that were Wellstone supporters could vote for Mondale.
Tricomo better represented the views of Wellstone than Mondale did.
I really think we need to quit tossing around the word "extreme"
so blithely and inaccurately.
I've done it too, so consider this self-criticism as much as anything else.
Paul Wellstone wasn't extreme, aside from being extremely well liked by ordinary people both in Minnesota and the nation. He was just a true, uncompromising liberal.
I don't feel you can credibly start calling anyone on the left extreme until you get, perhaps, to such groups as Bob Avakian's Maoist Revolutionary Communist Party.
Likewise on the right.
Jesse Helms, for example, should be termed "archconservative", not extreme.
The actual extremists begin to emerge at that end of the spectrum when you get to violent anti-abortionists, Klan and neo-Nazi elements.
We damage democracy -- the broadness of accepted, free opinion upon which real liberty depends -- when we attempt to make certain outlooks illegitimate via demonization, from the biased perspective of our own narrow partisanship.
You'd have to go substantially beyond Jethro Bodine and myself, for instance, to approach genuine extremism.
And, even then, unless such authentic extremists were into violence...THEIR voice and views should be graciously listened to.
Sorry Dennis, Wellstone was an extremist. So is Helms.
Well, I'd say the same thing about Wellstone but I'd get raked over the coals for it, so I won't.
No, I didn't like him. As a matter of fact I couldn't stand him.
I never liked Wellstone either.
They're polar opposites but they were both extremists.
I didn't like Paul any more than I liked his politics.
Although I didn't wish him dead, I also am glad another extremist is out of politics.
Dennis, you've advocated or applauded violence against law enforcement all around the world many times in the past. You are extreme.
JT, those right-wing, gun-tote'n, NRA, tobacco-chew'n, NASCAR-lov'n people from the Iron Range, all have shoulder fired stinger missiles don't ya know. Is that what Dennis is talking about? Or is there something even more sinister?
Much more sinister, Torp. It's called liberty.
Killing political opponents because your candidate hasn't got a chance in hell is liberty? Oh that's right, you're one of those COM-CON hypocrites.
To be replaced by another. THX 1138, your governor-elect up there--- you know, the one who was outvoted by those completely turned off by extreme neo-Republican ideology--- have you been over to his house for Bang-On-The-Bible night yet? You really oughta try it. It's a Ma and Pa Six Pack Hootenanny kind-o-time.
I would use extreme caution flying in this day and age---obviously the Republicans are using their Manchurian Candidate pilots for their terroristic ends. Be especially weary of any pilot who claims they love to fly. Chances are he's a suicidal psychopath who really means he loves to die.
To be replaced by another.
You're joking, right?
It's a Ma and Pa Six Pack Hootenanny kind-o-time.
Yeeeehaaaw!
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<Killing political opponents because your candidate hasn't got a chance in hell is liberty?>>
Gee, Duane, I guess I missed where it was I said that.
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<Oh that's right, you're one of those COM-CON hypocrites.>>
Would you define COM-CON for me? Also, please show examples of my hypocracy.
This whole forum is not only a perfect example of your hypocr isy, but also your inability to spell---COM-CON.
DuaneBarry---tried and true---over and out
It is True, he was Tried, and found guilty.
THX 1138, over and out!
Oh lookit---the sysop cracked a funny. You and Andy and billfold should start your own act.
You should join us, you can be the "straight man".
I've been following posts from various people in a number of forums
regarding the suspicion that Paul's plane crash was an assassination.
Among the more interesting things pointed out:
What happened to the initial reports that there was an observed fire
on the aircraft while it was still in the sky? Subsequent newscasts
made no further mention.
One gentleman with Washington connections says "everyone on the Hill"
is convinced it WAS an assassination.
Did you know that Mozambique's Samora Machel was killed by apartheid South African operatives who planted a false radio beacon on the ground, overriding an airport beacon?
There are unconfirmed reports that Ted Kennedy was also to have been
on the plane, but cancelled.
Then there's this:
"One need not be a conspiracy theorist, or on the lunatic fringe to wonder at this 'accident', which so closely resembles that of Democrat Carnahan who had similar enemies, both flying in what has been rated the safest of aircraft, just before their election.
"It's all too convenient, especially as the Homeland 'Security'
bill passes without anyone reading how they are signing away our freedoms. The 'Soul of the Senate' would have been quite an impediment to this outrage.
"Others have speculated on how easy it would have been to sabotage Wellstone's plane. And how will it ever be proven?"
Are you actually claiming that someone had enough control over the airport from which the plane took off to sabotage the plane, the witnesses, the newspapers, the FAA investigation, etc. to pull this off? Better loosen that tinfoil hat a little bit as I think it is effecting the circulation to the brain.