The problem is that people forgive him for the crap he pulls because of it.
Jethro, he's changing as a person. He's getting better about things. Is he perfect yet? No. But if you want to just condemn people and not give them a chance, then what incentive do they have to become better people?
I wonder how most people would act if you they were a 21 year old poor kid who suddenly had millions in the bank and people telling him how great he is.
That's not to excuse his past antics and I don't think anyone was. I am talking strictly from a football aspect he's got massive talent. I wasn't making excuses for his personal lapses. Does he get breaks because of who he is ? Sure it's unfair and wrong and it happens everywhere outside of football too it's called life. I think he's a putz but seems to be maturing more. I thought Chris Carter was a jerk but was one of the best recievers I've ever seen. In the end he turned out to be more of a liability though because of his attitude and I think or hope Moss saw that and learns from it.
You mean you wouldn't just take time off to follow the ICP on tour? I'm sure you could get yourself a lot of Faygo too. I would still work too probably. Finish up school. Try to invest as much of the money as I could. I don't see myself as getting extravegant items. My brother would probably get an Escalade all pimped out with phat rims and a huge system, all that. Me, I'd probably get a nice family mini-van. Get a nice little house. That's just me though. Oh yeah, and have a mock hunt with a nice big prize.
AHh....... I know like Hell If it were to happen tomorrow, the first thing I'd do, would be to get myself and Shaggs and his brother, first row seats for Wrestlemania, next year, in New York, at Madison Square Garden.... it would be like a birthday present too.... cause Wrestlemania is always in march... and my b-day is the 16th...
Jethro, he's changing as a person. Are you sure or is it just a PR move?He's getting better about things. Is he perfect yet? No. But if you want to just condemn people and not give them a chance, then what incentive do they have to become better people? He has had his chance and several times over. When are we going to say enough already? Just wait something will happen and we will see the real Moss again.
I'm sorry, but Moss could be a cross dressing pig fucker for all I care as long as he pulls off the big plays. Plus it gives the commentators something to rant about during time-outs.
The problem is that people forgive him for the crap he pulls because of it.
I don't forgive him for shit 'cause I don't give a shit either way. There's plenty of worse acts committed out there every day that needed the attention than he got for what he did.
I'm sorry, but Moss could be a cross dressing pig fucker for all I care as long as he pulls off the big plays. And some people wonder why our society has problems.
I don't forgive him for shit 'cause I don't give a shit either way. There's plenty of worse acts committed out there every day that needed the attention than he got for what he did. He is always pulling some crap. And he is forgiven each time he is allowed on the field and each time anyone praises him for his athletic ability. People should be admired for more than pure physical ability. And they should be condemned for bad character.
And some people wonder why our society has problems.
I don't wonder why at all. There's plenty of reasons to choose from.
And he is forgiven each time he is allowed on the field
I doubt it very much if any jury gives a shit what he does on the field. That's my point. Why should I care any more what bad things that he does vs. anyone else? I'm not on a jury who decides what happens to him for a particular incident. The only reason I know or even care about the guy is because of his athletic ability. If he didn't have that impact I doubt it very much if anyone would really care what he does. There's much worse things being done so why focus energy on his antics? I know that I would never excuse anybody from anything just because of who they are. They would receive a fair trial just like anybody else. That's why there's a jury selection process. To weed out those who have blinders on.
I don't wonder why at all. There's plenty of reasons to choose from. Yea and one of them is that we just happy to compromise principles for sports heros. Well, if they don't have to behave why should anyone else?
I doubt it very much if any jury gives a shit what he does on the field. That's my point. Why should I care any more what bad things that he does vs. anyone else? It appears to me that is the signal that is being sent. If you are a star athlete do what you want you'll be forgiven. I can hear it now, "For God's sake just keep playing ball."
Look for the 'purple of old' coming together to accomplish a miracle season and corking that bottle of wine from Miami. As good as the '98 expierence wouldnt be bad either :). 11+84=Superbowl-The dynamic duo. SKOL Vikes!!! (season ticket holder)
The Vikings will honor Cris Carter at halftime of Sunday night's game against Chicago. A national television audience will see Carter's No. 80 retired and his name added to their Ring of Honor. It will be the final time for Minnesota fans to recognize one of the greatest -- and most enigmatic -- players in team history.
will be manhandled with precise accuracy and domination. Look for a stellar performance by Super Freak. Watch for the sparks flying off the number 1 quarterback in the NFL cleats inside the red zone. A 3-0 start in the NFC North against all division rivals is as good as being six games up in the standings. Just think, the vikes are outstanding in the running game without the premier running back. That sure is a scary thought huh? SKOL VIKINGS!!! ..hey Red, Please sign Chris Walsh. See ya all in Houston !!!
Just for that I have 1 FREE ticket for the 49er's game with your name on it if you wanna sit next to me :) If ya wanna go let me know....
HAHAHAHA!!! GREEN BAY LOST!!!! YIPPIE!!!!! .....psst, now u will be hearing about how brett favre will retire after this seaon. He's a poor sport. I luv it when he loses. He throws temper tantrums... SKOL VIKES!!!!
machias - (PFID:13d381) - 04:03pm Sep 6, 2003 PST (# 1046 of 1086) Pro Bowlers? I want *SUPER* Bowlers.
If so, care to post your team?
favre, ahman, and driver will sweeeeeeeeeeep the vikes!
GO PACK GO!
Time to pull out that culpepper jersey out of your closet nad but the Favre jersey away :) SKOL VIKINGS!!! Kings of the NFC North!!! 3-0!!! yea babyyyyyy!!
Just for that I have 1 FREE ticket for the 49er's game with your name on it if you wanna sit next to me :) If ya wanna go let me know....
Hey, I'm all over that if you're serious. Are you going to go to the Moose this Wednesday for the start of TMK's mock hunt? I'll buy you a beer and we can figure out what we wanna do. Thanks
I hope he's not still down in Pheonix melted into the parking lot at Sun Devil stadium. Well if he is perhaps he can give Farve a ride home although I hope he doesn't count on Brett for directions, Seems ol Bert Favre' has a problem with directions such as where the recievers are.
My work schedule says I can not be in attendance of TMKS' get-together. It sounds like a good time. I just got turned down for christmas vacation already---too short of notice. :( I had asked my brother if he wanted to go but he said he might not be able to make it. He said he would let me know by Wednesday. If he does not want to go, you can be my guest. Check here around 10pm Wednesday night. I'll let you know for sure then. Sound OK?
I just got home from the Vikes game. HAHA. Why do those 40whiner fans have to sit right next to me?!?!?!? Go to www.purplepride.org. thats where I got my av. It's an awesome site... or for great Twins/Vikes/gopher stuff go to domeplus souvenirs site.
Hovan calls the DB's " ball Hawks" Vikes D is awesome!! Vikes O is outstanding...my god whats going to happen when all the sick /injured starters come back? SKOL VIKINGS!!! I'm planning my trip to Houston :) psst....I heard a rumour that Warner will be the Bears QB next year
I read this statement from Doug Johnson the Falcons QB.----
I don't think they're as good as we are," Johnson said. "When you're playing at home, you're supposed to beat teams you're better than. It's very frustrating."
What drugs is this guy on? The Falcons suck. Anyone can see the VIkes are a way better team. You know deep down inside, this idiot truly wants to be a Viking. SKOL VIKINGS!!!
Thank you. Hats of to Dungy huh? I gotta a pretty good feeling its gonna be Indy at KC for the AFC title and Tampa At MN for the nfc tile looks like its gonna be a revenge on KC for that superbowl lost (23-7) a few years back :)
Vikes have the top two QBs in the NFL (ratings) best offense in scoring , 3 dbs with interceptions and johnstone is only one sack away from tieing the leader :) ....and the Gophers are actually favored to beat Michigan!! Gotta luv minnesota sports :)
The problem is that people forgive him for the crap he pulls because of it.
Jethro, he's changing as a person. He's getting better about things. Is he perfect yet? No. But if you want to just condemn people and not give them a chance, then what incentive do they have to become better people?
I wonder how most people would act if you they were a 21 year old poor kid who suddenly had millions in the bank and people telling him how great he is.
That's not to excuse his past antics and I don't think anyone was. I am talking strictly from a football aspect he's got massive talent. I wasn't making excuses for his personal lapses. Does he get breaks because of who he is ? Sure it's unfair and wrong and it happens everywhere outside of football too it's called life. I think he's a putz but seems to be maturing more. I thought Chris Carter was a jerk but was one of the best recievers I've ever seen. In the end he turned out to be more of a liability though because of his attitude and I think or hope Moss saw that and learns from it.
I wouldnt do much with it, actually.... infact, I'd probably keep looking for a job....
You mean you wouldn't just take time off to follow the ICP on tour? I'm sure you could get yourself a lot of Faygo too. I would still work too probably. Finish up school. Try to invest as much of the money as I could. I don't see myself as getting extravegant items. My brother would probably get an Escalade all pimped out with phat rims and a huge system, all that. Me, I'd probably get a nice family mini-van. Get a nice little house. That's just me though. Oh yeah, and have a mock hunt with a nice big prize.
AHh....... I know like Hell If it were to happen tomorrow, the first thing I'd do, would be to get myself and Shaggs and his brother, first row seats for Wrestlemania, next year, in New York, at Madison Square Garden.... it would be like a birthday present too.... cause Wrestlemania is always in march... and my b-day is the 16th...
Jethro, he's changing as a person. Are you sure or is it just a PR move?He's getting better about things. Is he perfect yet? No. But if you want to just condemn people and not give them a chance, then what incentive do they have to become better people? He has had his chance and several times over. When are we going to say enough already? Just wait something will happen and we will see the real Moss again.
When are we going to say enough already?
I'm sorry, but Moss could be a cross dressing pig fucker for all I care as long as he pulls off the big plays. Plus it gives the commentators something to rant about during time-outs.
The problem is that people forgive him for the crap he pulls because of it.
I don't forgive him for shit 'cause I don't give a shit either way. There's plenty of worse acts committed out there every day that needed the attention than he got for what he did.
I'm sorry, but Moss could be a cross dressing pig fucker for all I care as long as he pulls off the big plays. And some people wonder why our society has problems.
I don't forgive him for shit 'cause I don't give a shit either way. There's plenty of worse acts committed out there every day that needed the attention than he got for what he did. He is always pulling some crap. And he is forgiven each time he is allowed on the field and each time anyone praises him for his athletic ability. People should be admired for more than pure physical ability. And they should be condemned for bad character.
And some people wonder why our society has problems.
I don't wonder why at all. There's plenty of reasons to choose from.
And he is forgiven each time he is allowed on the field
I doubt it very much if any jury gives a shit what he does on the field. That's my point. Why should I care any more what bad things that he does vs. anyone else? I'm not on a jury who decides what happens to him for a particular incident. The only reason I know or even care about the guy is because of his athletic ability. If he didn't have that impact I doubt it very much if anyone would really care what he does. There's much worse things being done so why focus energy on his antics? I know that I would never excuse anybody from anything just because of who they are. They would receive a fair trial just like anybody else. That's why there's a jury selection process. To weed out those who have blinders on.
I don't wonder why at all. There's plenty of reasons to choose from. Yea and one of them is that we just happy to compromise principles for sports heros. Well, if they don't have to behave why should anyone else?
I doubt it very much if any jury gives a shit what he does on the field. That's my point. Why should I care any more what bad things that he does vs. anyone else? It appears to me that is the signal that is being sent. If you are a star athlete do what you want you'll be forgiven. I can hear it now, "For God's sake just keep playing ball."
If you are a star athlete do what you want you'll be forgiven.
if they don't have to behave why should anyone else?
Where do you hear that?
Where do you hear that?
I have seen it.
Have you seen that?
Look for the 'purple of old' coming together to accomplish a miracle season and corking that bottle of wine from Miami. As good as the '98 expierence wouldnt be bad either :). 11+84=Superbowl-The dynamic duo. SKOL Vikes!!! (season ticket holder)
The Vikings will honor Cris Carter at halftime of Sunday night's game against Chicago. A national television audience will see Carter's No. 80 retired and his name added to their Ring of Honor. It will be the final time for Minnesota fans to recognize one of the greatest -- and most enigmatic -- players in team history.
Chris Carter Catches #1000
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Good game by the Vikes tonight. Looking good so far. Lets see what they do against the Lions next week. They can be dangerous.
He seems like he's desperate to play ball.
For those of youplaying FF with me, please check the FF message board. I made a minor mistake as commish.
will be manhandled with precise accuracy and domination. Look for a stellar performance by Super Freak. Watch for the sparks flying off the number 1 quarterback in the NFL cleats inside the red zone. A 3-0 start in the NFC North against all division rivals is as good as being six games up in the standings. Just think, the vikes are outstanding in the running game without the premier running back. That sure is a scary thought huh? SKOL VIKINGS!!! ..hey Red, Please sign Chris Walsh. See ya all in Houston !!!
Love your new avatar MV! ;-)
Just for that I have 1 FREE ticket for the 49er's game with your name on it if you wanna sit next to me :) If ya wanna go let me know....
HAHAHAHA!!! GREEN BAY LOST!!!! YIPPIE!!!!! .....psst, now u will be hearing about how brett favre will retire after this seaon. He's a poor sport. I luv it when he loses. He throws temper tantrums... SKOL VIKES!!!!
machias - (PFID:13d381) - 04:03pm Sep 6, 2003 PST (# 1046 of 1086)
Pro Bowlers? I want *SUPER* Bowlers.
If so, care to post your team?
favre, ahman, and driver will sweeeeeeeeeeep the vikes!
GO PACK GO!
Time to pull out that culpepper jersey out of your closet nad but the Favre jersey away :) SKOL VIKINGS!!! Kings of the NFC North!!! 3-0!!! yea babyyyyyy!!
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Just for that I have 1 FREE ticket for the 49er's game with your name on it if you wanna sit next to me :) If ya wanna go let me know....
Hey, I'm all over that if you're serious. Are you going to go to the Moose this Wednesday for the start of TMK's mock hunt? I'll buy you a beer and we can figure out what we wanna do. Thanks
Hey, where is Machias anyway ?
I hope he's not still down in Pheonix melted into the parking lot at Sun Devil stadium. Well if he is perhaps he can give Farve a ride home although I hope he doesn't count on Brett for directions, Seems ol Bert Favre' has a problem with directions such as where the recievers are.
A lot of the Slacker fans got real quite since yesterday. AND I LOVE IT!!
My work schedule says I can not be in attendance of TMKS' get-together. It sounds like a good time. I just got turned down for christmas vacation already---too short of notice. :( I had asked my brother if he wanted to go but he said he might not be able to make it. He said he would let me know by Wednesday. If he does not want to go, you can be my guest. Check here around 10pm Wednesday night. I'll let you know for sure then. Sound OK?
Hey Cheeseheads! What part of the concept "Green Bay Sucks" confuses your curdled little brains?
Skol Vikings!
Where's Machias ? ;)
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good one MV!
Hey MV,
Can you post me a link to your avatar next to your name?
4-0!!
Hell of a game Vikings!!!!! They dominated the 49ers. This team may be better then I thought they were.
I just got home from the Vikes game. HAHA. Why do those 40whiner fans have to sit right next to me?!?!?!? Go to www.purplepride.org. thats where I got my av. It's an awesome site... or for great Twins/Vikes/gopher stuff go to domeplus souvenirs site.
Hovan calls the DB's " ball Hawks" Vikes D is awesome!! Vikes O is outstanding...my god whats going to happen when all the sick /injured starters come back? SKOL VIKINGS!!! I'm planning my trip to Houston :) psst....I heard a rumour that Warner will be the Bears QB next year
Vikes Win Again!! We're 5-0 going into a bye week! Boy what a different team than the 0-4 Vikes at this time last year.
Joe Viking
I read this statement from Doug Johnson the Falcons QB.----
I don't think they're as good as we are," Johnson said. "When you're playing at home, you're supposed to beat teams you're better than. It's very frustrating."
What drugs is this guy on? The Falcons suck. Anyone can see the VIkes are a way better team. You know deep down inside, this idiot truly wants to be a Viking. SKOL VIKINGS!!!
You know deep down inside, this idiot truly wants to be a Viking.
hehe
No shit! Was his deal? The only thing they're better than us on is turnovers and allowing safeties.
Where are all those football scholars that have been blasting the Vikings at the beginning of the season? haha. I wanna rub it in :)
I hate that we have a bye next week :( I want more, more more!!!!
Doug Johnson is an idiot. You get your ass handed to you at home and you are going to spout off with that? No wonder he is a backup.
whats the score of the MNF game? HAHA Green Bay Slackers gotta play the Cheifs :)
38-35 Colts. It looks like we're going to be 1 of only 3 (possibly 2 (F GB)) teams left unbeaten after next weeks bye!
Thank you. Hats of to Dungy huh? I gotta a pretty good feeling its gonna be Indy at KC for the AFC title and Tampa At MN for the nfc tile looks like its gonna be a revenge on KC for that superbowl lost (23-7) a few years back :)
After last night's game you have to question the legitimacy of the NFL.
Why, what happened?
He's referring to the penalty against TB that gave Indy another shot at the field goal they missed.
Double Daunte Joe
Oh, I didn't catch the game. Nice Joe TMK
if Jethro is a PAcker fan :) THe Vikes are all legit damn it!! bring on Denver.
Vikes have the top two QBs in the NFL (ratings) best offense in scoring , 3 dbs with interceptions and johnstone is only one sack away from tieing the leader :) ....and the Gophers are actually favored to beat Michigan!! Gotta luv minnesota sports :)