at least phil no hat told the truth about this much...
What Phil meant was to educate people, not "to threaten people with hell". You have the wrong understanding of what is being said. No one has threatened you, we are explaining what the consequences of our actions are.
If you do not eat or drink, you surely will die. In that statement I am not threatening you with death, just pointing out what happens due to an action that is chosen. Same for what we say about religion.
Did anyone here, besides yours truly, do anything but heap ridicule on crabs ideas of time, energy. space and existance?
I truely tried to Rick. I asked questions and got one-liners for answers. While discussing different topics I would ask him what it matters since we are only time, energy and matter. That was to try to pry out of him what he really believes in and to point out that it does not match what he is saying about various subjects.
Think about it Rick, if we are just a bunch of energy and matter that happens to be together in a certain time and place, why is there a problem with killings, robbery, rape, war, etc. All we would be doing is adjusting that matter and energy into a different form according to what little I got out of Crabs concerning this subject.
If what he says is true, then none of it makes any difference at all. It should be a free for all, what would benefit you the most is what you should be doing. If you want to rob someone, go for it. If they happen to kill you, no biggy because you will only change form. No family ties, nothing.
That mentality is what causes most of the problems in our society today. You don't want to wait until marriage, don't. You don't want to have the kid, just kill it. It's not like there is a soul involved, right? You want to do drugs you can't afford, just rob someone. If they resist, just change their form of energy and matter (kill them).
None of it matters in this line of thought. That is the scariest part of his theory. It encourages all sorts of behaviors.
Now compare that to telling people who believe in the bible to "eat shit".
While discussing different topics I would ask him what it matters since we are only time, energy and matter. That was to try to pry out of him what he really believes in and to point out that it does not match what he is saying about various subjects.
actually, you were using it to ridicule and avoid discussing the topics at hand.
If what he says is true, then none of it makes any difference at all.
Now compare that to telling people who believe in the bible to "eat shit".
that really bugged you, didn't it?
it was meant to be humorous...I mean, the Book actually talks about how someone should use human excrement to cook your food with, and if you are worthy then it's okay to use cow dung instead...admit it, that's a damn weird little passage.
I thought it was funny. It IS funny. For all I know it may well be reasonable advice for conservation. But as long as you focus on that one, you can avoid explaining why you believe the advice about owning slaves and about stoning your rebellious children and about stoning homosexuals and all the other, more serious aspects of the book you say you believe in.
actually, you were using it to ridicule and avoid discussing the topics at hand.
Wrong, I stated why I was saying it.
I tried to explain to you that it all matters.
With one sentence like you just did. This does not explain anything is what the whole point is. You appear to be unable to explain what you believe in.
that really bugged you, didn't it?
Saying that to people with religious beliefs of any kind does bug me and shows us what kind of person you really are.
We have been over this part already, yet you still fail to comprehend what was going on at the time. Either that or you are just hoping that by lieing enough others will believe what you are saying to be the truth.
But as long as you focus on that one, you can avoid explaining why you believe...
Been there and done that. You just do not wish to read what I said and choose instead to do some Christian bashing of the worst kind, then call it "jokes" when called on it. How juvenile.
You just do not wish to read what I said and choose instead to do some Christian bashing of the worst kind, then call it "jokes" when called on it. How juvenile.
all I really did was post a bunch of direct quotes from the Book and question why you would believe such things.
and I didn't call it "jokes", I said the one thing, singular, was humorous...and if you don't find the idea of someone telling you that you have to cook with human dung a little peculiar, well...again, that's too fucking bad.
A great deal of your belief system is very offensive to me and you don't seem too concerned about that.
no...no yoou haven't. You haven't explained why you believe a book that says the things it does.
See herebefore I realized that you would not listen and gave up.
I explained it at length...
Prove it.
I understand that it doesn't fit with your ideas of why people care about things, but too bad.
I don't see why, if you believe in such things, you would care about anything and you are unable to answer me besides saying that "it all matters". I have seen no attempt to explain yourself though.
all I really did was post a bunch of direct quotes from the Book and question why you would believe such things.
I have already attempted to show how you take them out of context and twist what is being said. link againHowever, you still failed to get the point.
I said the one thing, singular, was humorous...and if you don't find the idea of someone telling you that you have to cook with human dung a little peculiar, well...again, that's too fucking bad.
I am too tired of linking to the posts that explain what the bible was saying. If you can't comprehend them, then I don't know what else to do.
Nice language by the way, really grown up.
A great deal of your belief system is very offensive to me and you don't seem too concerned about that.
Your "belief system" is unexplainable by you as well as extremely offensive to me. So is your language.
Look, the point is, why care about anything? It isn't like you believe we have souls to worry about.
I've never said we have no souls. On the contrary, if EVERYTHING exists, so do souls.
I just do not understand that given what you believe that you should care about anything at all including yourself.
well, since "we have no souls" is not anything close to what I believe, you seem to have decided what I believe for me.
now, I could go find some more examples where you mearly said that it shouldn't matter to me because I believe this thing you have decided I believe. Where you were trying to ridicule me for it. Come now, you know it and I know it. To watch you pretend otherwise is embarrassing.
Jesus fulfilled the law, not change them. That is what was meant by New Testament in the bible.
this explains nothing. If they weren't changed, then you still must believe them.
Beside, where in the bible does it say that you must stone your children?
I showed you chapter and verse.
We live in New Testament times.
For this. I will quote you..."With one sentence like you just did. This does not explain anything is what the whole point is."
I don't see why, if you believe in such things, you would care about anything and you are unable to answer me besides saying that "it all matters". I have seen no attempt to explain yourself though.
well, I don't see why, believing what you believe, that you would care about anything either. You have God, you only care aboout His cares, not your own.
Man was made in the image of God. Woman was made in the image of man. This does not mean that the woman is a man's slave, for the bible also tells us that they become one when married. A man should treat his wife with great respect because she and he are one
So, you only show women respect if they are married...and still they are lesser, created not from God, but from a rib of a man? What crap. Your God has been a tool used to oppress women for years and years. And I notice that you didn't address the instruction for how to treat slaves. Beat them, but only hard enough so if they die, they don't die too soon. That is the instructions your God provides for man. And the world suffered the injustices of slavery for many centuries because of it.
However, you still failed to get the point.
It's you who are ignoring my point.
I am too tired of linking to the posts that explain what the bible was saying
that's okay...I think the one was one of the few I can recall anyway...I can see where a search would be tiresome.
Nice language by the way, really grown up.
fuck you and your word police shit. Words aren't bad things.
Your "belief system" is unexplainable by you as well as extremely offensive to me. So is your language.
my belief aren't unexplainable any more than yours aren't.
I can't help but notice that your defense of ridiculing me because "I don't believe in anything except time, space and matter" is predicated on your understanding what I believe, and yet you claim I can't be understood. If I can't explain it to you, how come you can use it to ridicule me in a fashion that says you understand it?
"Think about it Rick, if we are just a bunch of energy and matter that happens to be together in a certain time and place, why is there a problem with killings, robbery, rape, war, etc. "
The legal consequences.
Don't ask me these things. I can't even fudge on my taxes. I can't pirate software.
That's because I believe we are the sum total of our choices and I wouldn't want to be the person who makes the kind of choices you cite.
it was meant to be humorous...I mean, the Book actually talks about how someone should use human excrement to cook your food with, and if you are worthy then it's okay to use cow dung instead...admit it, that's a damn weird little passage.
What is so strange about it, crabs? Have you no concept of how people had to live in the past?
I've never said we have no souls. On the contrary, if EVERYTHING exists, so do souls. So are you concerned about your soul?
fuck you and your word police shit. Words aren't bad things. crabs, you apparently want us to care that you are offended about certain things. It is obvious however that you don't care if you offend others. The one major teaching of the Bible, which you so disparage, is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Maybe you really should reconsider your position.
"Think about it Rick, if we are just a bunch of energy and matter that happens to be together in a certain time and place, why is there a problem with killings, robbery, rape, war, etc. "
Rick: The legal consequences.
Why bother with law if it is just a matter of rearranging matter?
That wasn't the point, Rick. Why bother with the law at all? It is simply rearranging matter, it isn't destroyed after all. Is it really important to keep the energy form that exists through force of law or shouldn't the energy be set free?
I've never said we have no souls. On the contrary, if EVERYTHING exists, so do souls.
Believe in Santa Claus do you? Do fairies really wear boots? (Sorry, had a flashback to when Black Sabbath was popular)
well, since "we have no souls" is not anything close to what I believe, you seem to have decided what I believe for me.
Because other than a few one-liners, you won't explain what you believe.
To watch you pretend otherwise is embarrassing.
To watch you unable to explain yourself is the embarassing part.
this explains nothing. If they weren't changed, then you still must believe them.
Yes, there is still a set of rules you must live by. The penalty was taken care of by Jesus dieing on the cross for those who believe in him. I explained that in post #736.
I showed you chapter and verse.
And I showed you where you were wrong in what you thought it said in post #736.
For this. I will quote you..."With one sentence like you just did. This does not explain anything is what the whole point is."
Well, as you quoted me above that statement, I did go on to explain it to you.
well, I don't see why, believing what you believe, that you would care about anything either. You have God, you only care aboout His cares, not your own.
And he cares about you and everyone, therefore, we should care also.
So, you only show women respect if they are married...
Nobody said anything even close to that.
Your God has been a tool used to oppress women for years and years.
Yeah, Saddam's piglatin sons Uday and Qusay raped girls as young as 12 in my Gods name. Right. Women are a part of God's creation and should be treated with all the respect they deserve.
And I notice that you didn't address the instruction for how to treat slaves.
That was about the time that I became aware that you did not want to listen to me, you only wanted to do some bashing.
Slavery was different in those days than what we know of the U.S. form of slavery. A person who owed you money that they could not repay could become a slave to you as a way of repaying the debt. If you look at verse 2 of Exodus 21, it says "six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing". This is where the bankruptcy rules concerning every 7 years comes from.
It also says in verse 16 that "he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death".
Also, as you know, there was slavery around long before any of this took place. Even the Jews were slaves to the Pharaoh. The book of Exodus is about them leaving the Pharaoh's lands. So to say that slavery was based on the bible is a false statement.
With that in mind, what the verse that you quote was saying was that if a slave does not follow your orders, you can discipline him. You can not kill him as is stated in verse 20 "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished". To beat him within inches of death would not have been acceptable either.
It's you who are ignoring my point.
I showed you where I stated what you asked for, but you chose not to accept it.
I can see where a search would be tiresome.
Apparently so since you could not show where you tried to explain your ideas to me.
Words aren't bad things.
There is acceptable words in general society to use and unacceptable ones. Please be an adult and use the acceptable ones. Your choices are offensive to me.
my belief aren't unexplainable any more than yours aren't.
I have been able to explain mine. You haven't when asked to.
If I can't explain it to you, how come you can use it to ridicule me in a fashion that says you understand it?
That time, matter, etc. stuff is all I can get out of you. I have used it to try to get you to explain further. Sorry if you think that I am ridiculing you, but I am not.
On a Saturday night several weeks ago, this pastor was working late, and decided to call his wife before he left for home. It was about 10:00 PM, but his wife didn't answer the phone.
The pastor let the phone ring many times. He thought it was odd that she didn't answer, but decided to wrap up a few things and try again in a few minutes. When he tried again she answered right away! He asked her why she hadn't answered before, and she said that it hadn't rung at their house. They brushed it off as a fluke and went on their merry ways.
The following Monday, the pastor received a call at the church office, which was the phone that he'd used that Saturday night. The man that he spoke with wanted to know why he'd called on Saturday night.
The pastor couldn't figure out what the man was talking about. Then the man said, "It rang and rang, but I didn't answer." The pastor remembered the mishap and apologized for disturbing him, explaining that he'd intended to call his wife.
The man said, "That's, OK Let me tell you my story. You see, I was planning to commit suicide on Saturday night, but before I did, I prayed, 'God if you're there, and you don't want me to do this, give me a sign now.' At that point my phone started to ring. I looked at the caller ID, and it said, 'Almighty God'. I was afraid to answer!"
The reason why it showed on the man's caller ID that the call came from "Almighty God" is because the church that the pastor attends is called Almighty God Tabernacle.
Reagan's faith couldn't stop his wife from seeing a soothsayer. Nancy had free will to do what she wants.
Reagan himself seldom set foot in church. See the program or read the book. Even his daughter, who had her differences with Reagan, agrees about his faith. She wrote her own book on it.
Going to church is pretty fundamental to being a Christian. No not really.You need that constant fellowship w/ other Christians. No not really.I think you are misleading yourself if you think otherwise. No not really.One can have faith, be a Christian and not go to church, but one needs to be constantly filled up otherwise the world will wear you down. You can read the Bible yourself.
"I'll make him a deal he can't refuse"
There is no "deal."
my point exactly
why do you think your God is any more "real" than any of the countless other Gods people have believed in throughout history?
FWIW: A turd takes up time, energy, space and existence.
at least phil no hat told the truth about this much...
What Phil meant was to educate people, not "to threaten people with hell". You have the wrong understanding of what is being said. No one has threatened you, we are explaining what the consequences of our actions are.
If you do not eat or drink, you surely will die. In that statement I am not threatening you with death, just pointing out what happens due to an action that is chosen. Same for what we say about religion.
Did anyone here, besides yours truly, do anything but heap ridicule on crabs ideas of time, energy. space and existance?
I truely tried to Rick. I asked questions and got one-liners for answers. While discussing different topics I would ask him what it matters since we are only time, energy and matter. That was to try to pry out of him what he really believes in and to point out that it does not match what he is saying about various subjects.
Think about it Rick, if we are just a bunch of energy and matter that happens to be together in a certain time and place, why is there a problem with killings, robbery, rape, war, etc. All we would be doing is adjusting that matter and energy into a different form according to what little I got out of Crabs concerning this subject.
If what he says is true, then none of it makes any difference at all. It should be a free for all, what would benefit you the most is what you should be doing. If you want to rob someone, go for it. If they happen to kill you, no biggy because you will only change form. No family ties, nothing.
That mentality is what causes most of the problems in our society today. You don't want to wait until marriage, don't. You don't want to have the kid, just kill it. It's not like there is a soul involved, right? You want to do drugs you can't afford, just rob someone. If they resist, just change their form of energy and matter (kill them).
None of it matters in this line of thought. That is the scariest part of his theory. It encourages all sorts of behaviors.
Now compare that to telling people who believe in the bible to "eat shit".
actually, you were using it to ridicule and avoid discussing the topics at hand.
I tried to explain to you that it allmatters.
that really bugged you, didn't it?
it was meant to be humorous...I mean, the Book actually talks about how someone should use human excrement to cook your food with, and if you are worthy then it's okay to use cow dung instead...admit it, that's a damn weird little passage.
I thought it was funny. It IS funny. For all I know it may well be reasonable advice for conservation. But as long as you focus on that one, you can avoid explaining why you believe the advice about owning slaves and about stoning your rebellious children and about stoning homosexuals and all the other, more serious aspects of the book you say you believe in.
actually, you were using it to ridicule and avoid discussing the topics at hand.
Wrong, I stated why I was saying it.
I tried to explain to you that it all matters.
With one sentence like you just did. This does not explain anything is what the whole point is. You appear to be unable to explain what you believe in.
that really bugged you, didn't it?
Saying that to people with religious beliefs of any kind does bug me and shows us what kind of person you really are.
We have been over this part already, yet you still fail to comprehend what was going on at the time. Either that or you are just hoping that by lieing enough others will believe what you are saying to be the truth.
But as long as you focus on that one, you can avoid explaining why you believe...
Been there and done that. You just do not wish to read what I said and choose instead to do some Christian bashing of the worst kind, then call it "jokes" when called on it. How juvenile.
nonsense.
you decided the answer and used it to ridicule and avoid.
no...no yoou haven't. You haven't explained why you believe a book that says the things it does. You only suggest that it's "out of context".
I explained it at length...I understand that it doesn't fit with your ideas of why people care about things, but too bad.
all I really did was post a bunch of direct quotes from the Book and question why you would believe such things.
and I didn't call it "jokes", I said the one thing, singular, was humorous...and if you don't find the idea of someone telling you that you have to cook with human dung a little peculiar, well...again, that's too fucking bad.
A great deal of your belief system is very offensive to me and you don't seem too concerned about that.
you decided the answer and used it to ridicule and avoid.
You are so full of lies and deceit.
See herefor what I am talking about.
no...no yoou haven't. You haven't explained why you believe a book that says the things it does.
See herebefore I realized that you would not listen and gave up.
I explained it at length...
Prove it.
I understand that it doesn't fit with your ideas of why people care about things, but too bad.
I don't see why, if you believe in such things, you would care about anything and you are unable to answer me besides saying that "it all matters". I have seen no attempt to explain yourself though.
all I really did was post a bunch of direct quotes from the Book and question why you would believe such things.
I have already attempted to show how you take them out of context and twist what is being said. link againHowever, you still failed to get the point.
I said the one thing, singular, was humorous...and if you don't find the idea of someone telling you that you have to cook with human dung a little peculiar, well...again, that's too fucking bad.
I am too tired of linking to the posts that explain what the bible was saying. If you can't comprehend them, then I don't know what else to do.
Nice language by the way, really grown up.
A great deal of your belief system is very offensive to me and you don't seem too concerned about that.
Your "belief system" is unexplainable by you as well as extremely offensive to me. So is your language.
from your example...
I've never said we have no souls. On the contrary, if EVERYTHING exists, so do souls.
well, since "we have no souls" is not anything close to what I believe, you seem to have decided what I believe for me.
now, I could go find some more examples where you mearly said that it shouldn't matter to me because I believe this thing you have decided I believe. Where you were trying to ridicule me for it. Come now, you know it and I know it. To watch you pretend otherwise is embarrassing.
this explains nothing. If they weren't changed, then you still must believe them.
I showed you chapter and verse.
For this. I will quote you..."With one sentence like you just did. This does not explain anything is what the whole point is."
well, I don't see why, believing what you believe, that you would care about anything either. You have God, you only care aboout His cares, not your own.
So, you only show women respect if they are married...and still they are lesser, created not from God, but from a rib of a man? What crap. Your God has been a tool used to oppress women for years and years. And I notice that you didn't address the instruction for how to treat slaves. Beat them, but only hard enough so if they die, they don't die too soon. That is the instructions your God provides for man. And the world suffered the injustices of slavery for many centuries because of it.
It's you who are ignoring my point.
that's okay...I think the one was one of the few I can recall anyway...I can see where a search would be tiresome.
fuck you and your word police shit. Words aren't bad things.
my belief aren't unexplainable any more than yours aren't.
I can't help but notice that your defense of ridiculing me because "I don't believe in anything except time, space and matter" is predicated on your understanding what I believe, and yet you claim I can't be understood. If I can't explain it to you, how come you can use it to ridicule me in a fashion that says you understand it?
"Think about it Rick, if we are just a bunch of energy and matter that happens to be together in a certain time and place, why is there a problem with killings, robbery, rape, war, etc. "
The legal consequences.
Don't ask me these things. I can't even fudge on my taxes. I can't pirate software.
That's because I believe we are the sum total of our choices and I wouldn't want to be the person who makes the kind of choices you cite.
it was meant to be humorous...I mean, the Book actually talks about how someone should use human excrement to cook your food with, and if you are worthy then it's okay to use cow dung instead...admit it, that's a damn weird little passage.
What is so strange about it, crabs? Have you no concept of how people had to live in the past?
A great deal of your belief system is very offensive to me and you don't seem too concerned about that.
I am not going to stop believing simply because you are offended. If you are truly offended, tough.
I've never said we have no souls. On the contrary, if EVERYTHING exists, so do souls. So are you concerned about your soul?
fuck you and your word police shit. Words aren't bad things. crabs, you apparently want us to care that you are offended about certain things. It is obvious however that you don't care if you offend others. The one major teaching of the Bible, which you so disparage, is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Maybe you really should reconsider your position.
"Think about it Rick, if we are just a bunch of energy and matter that happens to be together in a certain time and place, why is there a problem with killings, robbery, rape, war, etc. "
Rick: The legal consequences.
Why bother with law if it is just a matter of rearranging matter?
Because your matter will be peering out of the bars in the Steel Hotel.
Spending the day makin' little ones out of big ones.
And the judges and the guards aren't interested in your theories about time, space and existance.
That wasn't the point, Rick. Why bother with the law at all? It is simply rearranging matter, it isn't destroyed after all. Is it really important to keep the energy form that exists through force of law or shouldn't the energy be set free?
"That wasn't the point, Rick."
That's my point.
Spending the day makin' little ones out of big ones.
And the judges and the guards aren't interested in your theories about time, space and existance.
It is sad that Rick doesn't even appear to have any respect for crabs philosophy.
"It is sad that Rick doesn't even appear to have any respect for crabs philosophy.'
Even if that was true, you wouldn't find it sad or disrespectful, would you jethro?
some things don't deserve respect, Rick. So no it would not be sad.
"some things don't deserve respect, RickSo no it would not be sad."
Why did you say it was sad then?
Why did you say it was sad then?
It is sad that even a liberal such as yourself is not showing crabs support.
Like you care.
Like you care.
Agh! that hurts!
I've never said we have no souls. On the contrary, if EVERYTHING exists, so do souls.
Believe in Santa Claus do you? Do fairies really wear boots? (Sorry, had a flashback to when Black Sabbath was popular)
well, since "we have no souls" is not anything close to what I believe, you seem to have decided what I believe for me.
Because other than a few one-liners, you won't explain what you believe.
To watch you pretend otherwise is embarrassing.
To watch you unable to explain yourself is the embarassing part.
this explains nothing. If they weren't changed, then you still must believe them.
Yes, there is still a set of rules you must live by. The penalty was taken care of by Jesus dieing on the cross for those who believe in him. I explained that in post #736.
I showed you chapter and verse.
And I showed you where you were wrong in what you thought it said in post #736.
For this. I will quote you..."With one sentence like you just did. This does not explain anything is what the whole point is."
Well, as you quoted me above that statement, I did go on to explain it to you.
well, I don't see why, believing what you believe, that you would care about anything either. You have God, you only care aboout His cares, not your own.
And he cares about you and everyone, therefore, we should care also.
So, you only show women respect if they are married...
Nobody said anything even close to that.
Your God has been a tool used to oppress women for years and years.
Yeah, Saddam's piglatin sons Uday and Qusay raped girls as young as 12 in my Gods name. Right. Women are a part of God's creation and should be treated with all the respect they deserve.
And I notice that you didn't address the instruction for how to treat slaves.
That was about the time that I became aware that you did not want to listen to me, you only wanted to do some bashing.
Slavery was different in those days than what we know of the U.S. form of slavery. A person who owed you money that they could not repay could become a slave to you as a way of repaying the debt. If you look at verse 2 of Exodus 21, it says "six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing". This is where the bankruptcy rules concerning every 7 years comes from.
It also says in verse 16 that "he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death".
Also, as you know, there was slavery around long before any of this took place. Even the Jews were slaves to the Pharaoh. The book of Exodus is about them leaving the Pharaoh's lands. So to say that slavery was based on the bible is a false statement.
With that in mind, what the verse that you quote was saying was that if a slave does not follow your orders, you can discipline him. You can not kill him as is stated in verse 20 "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished". To beat him within inches of death would not have been acceptable either.
It's you who are ignoring my point.
I showed you where I stated what you asked for, but you chose not to accept it.
I can see where a search would be tiresome.
Apparently so since you could not show where you tried to explain your ideas to me.
Words aren't bad things.
There is acceptable words in general society to use and unacceptable ones. Please be an adult and use the acceptable ones. Your choices are offensive to me.
my belief aren't unexplainable any more than yours aren't.
I have been able to explain mine. You haven't when asked to.
If I can't explain it to you, how come you can use it to ridicule me in a fashion that says you understand it?
That time, matter, etc. stuff is all I can get out of you. I have used it to try to get you to explain further. Sorry if you think that I am ridiculing you, but I am not.
An urban legend?
On a Saturday night several weeks ago, this pastor was working late, and decided to call his wife before he left for home. It was about 10:00 PM, but his wife didn't answer the phone.
The pastor let the phone ring many times. He thought it was odd that she didn't answer, but decided to wrap up a few things and try again in a few minutes. When he tried again she answered right away! He asked her why she hadn't answered before, and she said that it hadn't rung at their house. They brushed it off as a fluke and went on their merry ways.
The following Monday, the pastor received a call at the church office, which was the phone that he'd used that Saturday night. The man that he spoke with wanted to know why he'd called on Saturday
night.
The pastor couldn't figure out what the man was talking about. Then the man said, "It rang and rang, but I didn't answer." The pastor remembered the mishap and apologized for disturbing him, explaining that he'd intended to call his wife.
The man said, "That's, OK Let me tell you my story. You see, I was planning to commit suicide on Saturday night, but before I did, I prayed, 'God if you're there, and you don't want me to do this, give me a sign now.' At that point my phone started to ring. I looked at the caller ID, and it said, 'Almighty God'. I was afraid to answer!"
The reason why it showed on the man's caller ID that the call came from "Almighty God" is because the church that the pastor attends is called Almighty God Tabernacle.
It's funny either way.
True or not, it's a cool story.
On Book TV this weekend: God and Ronald Reagan: A Spiritual Life
by Paul Kengor
 http://www.booktv.org/General/index.asp?segID=4506&schedID=265
Reagan's faith couldn't stop his wife from seeing a soothsayer. A practitioner of Dark Magic.
Reagan himself seldom set foot in church.
Reagan's faith couldn't stop his wife from seeing a soothsayer. Nancy had free will to do what she wants.
Reagan himself seldom set foot in church. See the program or read the book. Even his daughter, who had her differences with Reagan, agrees about his faith. She wrote her own book on it.
"Nancy had free will to do what she wants."
Ronnie had the free will to stop her from arranging his schedule based on advice from her astrologer, Joan Quigley.
Ronnie had the free will to stop her from arranging his schedule based on advice from her astrologer, Joan Quigley.
Reagan knew it was harmless. Sometimes you have to humor the wife.
"Reagan knew it was harmless."
HARMLESS??????
The moral leader of the nation bowing to the mystical whims of a star wizard?
Reporters asked Reagan whether he believed in astrology. The bewildered man said "I don't know enough about it to say."
I was something of a kid, but I heard it with my own ears and remember it like it was yesterday.
Amazing! Flakey Hollywood people! Ya' wonder why I'm a loyal Democrat.
And the Republicans had the monumental gall to say when Reagan replaced Jimmy Carter there was a "real Christian" in the White House.
Sometimes you have to humor the wife.
Not to that extent you don't.
You don't need to go to church to be a Christian. Reagan's faith is a matter of record and not worth arguing about.
And only church can do that for you?
Face it, church was an effort he didn't want to make.
Church or some other fellowship. It's very hard to go it alone.
You party is full of them.
Going to church is pretty fundamental to being a Christian. No not really.You need that constant fellowship w/ other Christians. No not really.I think you are misleading yourself if you think otherwise. No not really.One can have faith, be a Christian and not go to church, but one needs to be constantly filled up otherwise the world will wear you down. You can read the Bible yourself.
Face it, church was an effort he didn't want to make.
Even if true that offends you? Read the book and learn something for a change, Rick.
Evidently the Reagans would probably say I could learn more from reading my horoscope.
They're still in the paper, arent' they?