I discovered, to my initial surprise, that there is an extensive body of evidence supporting Christianity's exclusive truth claims. Knowledge of this evidence doesn't automatically lead one to faith, but it certainly helps to remove obstacles we sometimes unwittingly use as excuses for neglecting our spiritual "business" or flat out rejecting the truth.
Kaneh-Bosm is one of those seed bearing plants and herbs that your God created for man to use as meat...that is until people like you came along and demanded it be outlawed.
You have a lot of balls outlawing something your own God made to use.
It is obvious that we now know that Kaneh-Bosm is evil.
so, God created something that he said was GOODand you have now decided that God was wrong and that he created something evil?
not even I am thatconfident.
It doesn't say anything about smoking the leaves of the dope plant.
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.
now, we can go into the idea of smoke in the Bible if you would like, but I dont think you are gonna like what you find.
so, God created something that he said was GOOD and you have now decided that God was wrong and that he created something evil?
The plant isn't evil. It is how human use it or, when it comes to dope, misuse it.
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. Did God say, "Go and smoke it?"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. You are dishonest, crabs. Something may be improperly used.
It is how human use it or, when it comes to dope, misuse it.
Something may be improperly used.
define "improperly used"? Anything can be used "improperly" (at least in a way that SOME people might consider "improper")...just the vegetable kingdom alone...cucumbers can be "improperly", why aren't they illegal?
Jesus used his oils to heal...is that "improper"?
He also turned water into wine...so it can't be that he's against the idea of people using drugs. Alcohol is a drug.
Explain why consuming wine is "proper" and consuming cannabis is "improper"?
VATICAN CITY — A top Vatican cardinal said Friday that priests must deny communion to pro-abortion Catholic politicians, but he would not comment on whether it was right for John Kerry to receive communion.
I'm not twisting anything, here's what the Book says...
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.
As usual crabs you are deliberatly misreading the passage. So all I can say is that on this subject you shall be ignored because you are utterly dishonest.
Exodus 30 [22] Moreover, the LORD said to Moses, [23] "Take the finest spices: of liquid myrrh five hundred shekels, and of sweet-smelling cinnamon half as much, that is, two hundred and fifty, and of aromatic cane two hundred and fifty, [24] and of cassia five hundred, according to the shekel of the sanctuary, and of olive oil a hin; [25] and you shall make of these a sacred anointing oil blended as by the perfumer; a holy anointing oil it shall be. [26] And you shall anoint with it the tent of meeting and the ark of the testimony, [27] and the table and all its utensils, and the lampstand and its utensils, and the altar of incense, [28] and the altar of burnt offering with all its utensils and the laver and its base; [29] you shall consecrate them, that they may be most holy; whatever touches them will become holy. [30] And you shall anoint Aaron and his sons, and consecrate them, that they may serve me as priests. [31] And you shall say to the people of Israel, `This shall be my holy anointing oil throughout your generations. [32] It shall not be poured upon the bodies of ordinary men, and you shall make no other like it in composition; it is holy, and it shall be holy to you. [33] Whoever compounds any like it or whoever puts any of it on an outsider shall be cut off from his people.'" [34] And the LORD said to Moses, "Take sweet spices, stacte, and onycha, and galbanum, sweet spices with pure frankincense (of each shall there be an equal part), [35] and make an incense blended as by the perfumer, seasoned with salt, pure and holy; [36] and you shall beat some of it very small, and put part of it before the testimony in the tent of meeting where I shall meet with you; it shall be for you most holy. [37] And the incense which you shall make according to its composition, you shall not make for yourselves; it shall be for you holy to the LORD. [38] Whoever makes any like it to use as perfume shall be cut off from his people."
I took a look at Pastor Jack's site, and here's what I found:
The Bible says smoking marijuana is wrong because:
I.It is bad for your body, 1 Corinthians 6:19-20
So I looked up the verses, New American Standard version of the NT.
1 Corinthians 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?
1 Corinthians 6:20 For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.
I really don't see any mention of cannabis in those verses. If you do, pass what you're smoking down this way.
And, by the way, eating cannabis -- using it as "meat" -- is a nice high, too. You don't HAVE to smoke it.
I have. Currently it's quit rare for me to use any drug outside of the "tines" (and the "tines" are far worse for me than marijuana ever was) and Glucophage.
wasn't it Moses who had hallucinations of an angel?
and hey, wasn't there a burning bush involved?
hhhmmmm
hey bodine...Jesus wants to annoit you with oils made from KANEH-BOSM
and when he does, you will see visions
Kaneh: hemp
Bosm: aromatic
the tree He speaks of is the tree of knowledge
translation..."try to gain knowledge and you die"
"translation..."try to gain knowledge and you die"
it is amazing how misinformed you are. It must be deliberate.
 http://realife4now.tripod.com/treeoflife.html
named the tree of knowledgeof Good & Evil
the fact remains...this "tree of knowledge of good and evil" isn't the plant Kaneh-Bosm
you support the outlawing of one of God's goodcreations.
"try to gain knowledge and you die"
Maybe the Fall from Paradise was pre=ordained. Man needed to sent a way from God in order to return to God.
I discovered, to my initial surprise, that there is an extensive body of evidence supporting Christianity's exclusive truth claims. Knowledge of this evidence doesn't automatically lead one to faith, but it certainly helps to remove obstacles we sometimes unwittingly use as excuses for neglecting our spiritual "business" or flat out rejecting the truth.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/davidlimbaugh/dl20040420.shtml
named the tree of knowledge of Good & Evil
put the emphasis where it belongs, crabs.
it's not the Tree of Kaneh-Bosm, now is it?
Kaneh-Bosm is one of those seed bearing plants and herbs that your God created for man to use as meat...that is until people like you came along and demanded it be outlawed.
You have a lot of balls outlawing something your own God made to use.
It is obvious that we now know that Kaneh-Bosm is evil.
"We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden;'
It doesn't say anything about smoking the leaves of the dope plant.
so, God created something that he said was GOODand you have now decided that God was wrong and that he created something evil?
not even I am thatconfident.
now, we can go into the idea of smoke in the Bible if you would like, but I dont think you are gonna like what you find.
so, bodine now knows that one of the main ingredients in the annoiting oils of Jesus himself is EVIL!
who knew?
so, God created something that he said was GOOD and you have now decided that God was wrong and that he created something evil?
The plant isn't evil. It is how human use it or, when it comes to dope, misuse it.
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. Did God say, "Go and smoke it?"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. You are dishonest, crabs. Something may be improperly used.
define "improperly used"? Anything can be used "improperly" (at least in a way that SOME people might consider "improper")...just the vegetable kingdom alone...cucumbers can be "improperly", why aren't they illegal?
Jesus used his oils to heal...is that "improper"?
He also turned water into wine...so it can't be that he's against the idea of people using drugs. Alcohol is a drug.
Explain why consuming wine is "proper" and consuming cannabis is "improper"?
"shall be for meat"
means to consume as best I can tell.
uh...that was Bible that said that, not me who said that...
you just called the Bible dishonest, bodine.
define "improperly used"? How about an example. crabs and his brain.
means to consume as best I can tell. See my comment above.
you just called the Bible dishonest, bodine.
No I didn't. Must you always lie to yourself and others?
VATICAN CITY — A top Vatican cardinal said Friday that priests must deny communion to pro-abortion Catholic politicians, but he would not comment on whether it was right for John Kerry to receive communion.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117986,00.html
it wasn't me that said it...it was your Bible.
at least you are now beginning to question it.
No, crabs, you are twisting things once again.
I'm not twisting anything, here's what the Book says...
you are the one twisting it to make it EVIL
As usual crabs you are deliberatly misreading the passage. So all I can say is that on this subject you shall be ignored because you are utterly dishonest.
no I'm not...you are deliberatly refusing to see what it plainly says.
All I can say is that on this subject you shall be ignored because you are utterly dishonest.
you ignore it because you know it's true and it contradicts what you want to believe.
Again, all I can say is that on this subject you shall be ignored because you are utterly
dishonest.
I'm completely honest and you can't stand it.
One more time and we close this book. All I can say is that on this subject you shall be ignored because you are utterly dishonest.
I totally honest and you can't deal with it.
Maybe if you did the Jack Nicholson impression, crabby?
isn't winking Jesus enough?
bodine is no Tom Cruise and he's most certainly not a military lawyer
okay, but just this once...
Lord have mercy! Is that what that is?
As usual crabs you are deliberatly misreading the passage.
well then, please, by all means enlighten us as to the correct meaning of said passage.
then ask yourself who created the particular herb in question.
and then ask yourself if Jesus Himself used that herb in his annointing oils.
and then contemplate the fact that if Jesus was here today, you would have him arrested for it.
well then, please, by all means enlighten us as to the correct meaning of said passage.
I did. I am not surprised you passed over it.
then ask yourself who created the particular herb in question. sigh............did God say smoke it?
He said it was to used as meat.
that fact is, if Jesus was here today, you would arrest him for his annointing oils.
What the Bible Says About Smoking Weed and Other Substance Abuse
http://www.pastorlittlefield.com/notes/2001-01-21.htm
that fact is, if Jesus was here today, you would arrest him for his annointing oils.
The truth is you are a liar.
Jesus used it to heal people's bodies.
that's no lie...the fact is, Jesus used marijuana as a major part of his annointing oils. the would be illegal in America today.
Jesus used it to heal people's bodies.
This is prodrug propaganda.
The Bible is pro-drug propoganda?
uh...okay
Exodus 30
[22] Moreover, the LORD said to Moses,
[23] "Take the finest spices: of liquid myrrh five hundred shekels, and of sweet-smelling cinnamon half as much, that is, two hundred and fifty, and of aromatic cane two hundred and fifty,
[24] and of cassia five hundred, according to the shekel of the sanctuary, and of olive oil a hin;
[25] and you shall make of these a sacred anointing oil blended as by the perfumer; a holy anointing oil it shall be.
[26] And you shall anoint with it the tent of meeting and the ark of the testimony,
[27] and the table and all its utensils, and the lampstand and its utensils, and the altar of incense,
[28] and the altar of burnt offering with all its utensils and the laver and its base;
[29] you shall consecrate them, that they may be most holy; whatever touches them will become holy.
[30] And you shall anoint Aaron and his sons, and consecrate them, that they may serve me as priests.
[31] And you shall say to the people of Israel, `This shall be my holy anointing oil throughout your generations.
[32] It shall not be poured upon the bodies of ordinary men, and you shall make no other like it in composition; it is holy, and it shall be holy to you.
[33] Whoever compounds any like it or whoever puts any of it on an outsider shall be cut off from his people.'"
[34]
And the LORD said to Moses, "Take sweet spices, stacte, and onycha, and galbanum, sweet spices with pure frankincense (of each shall there be an equal part),
[35] and make an incense blended as by the perfumer, seasoned with salt, pure and holy;
[36] and you shall beat some of it very small, and put part of it before the testimony in the tent of meeting where I shall meet with you; it shall be for you most holy.
[37] And the incense which you shall make according to its composition, you shall not make for yourselves; it shall be for you holy to the LORD.
[38] Whoever makes any like it to use as perfume shall be cut off from his people."
The Bible is pro-drug propaganda?
Another lie. That isn't what I said. It is just another example of how dishonest and despicable you are.
I took a look at Pastor Jack's site, and here's what I found:
So I looked up the verses, New American Standard version of the NT.
I really don't see any mention of cannabis in those verses. If you do, pass what you're smoking down this way.
And, by the way, eating cannabis -- using it as "meat" -- is a nice high, too. You don't HAVE to smoke it.
You don't HAVE to smoke it.
btw: Crabby, do you use illegal drugs? How about you pieter?
Just curious. Maybe if I actually used illegal drugs I'd have a different perspective.
I have. Currently it's quit rare for me to use any drug outside of the "tines" (and the "tines" are far worse for me than marijuana ever was) and Glucophage.