"We just experienced the greatest conservative victory in American history — we have never had a victory like Nov. 2 — and it's the most dangerous time for our movement ever," the evangelical activist and pastor (Jerrry Falwell) told FOXNews.com.
"Falwell said the movement must now fight complacency in the face of looming battles over gay marriage and possible vacancies on the Supreme Court."
Contrary to the position of many atheists, especially those who believe that Christians are reality-challenged and science-averse, theism -- particularly Christianity -- is supported by reliable evidence.Â
Flew said he's best labeled a deist like Thomas Jefferson, whose God was not actively involved in people's lives.
"I'm thinking of a God very different from the God of the Christian and far and away from the God of Islam, because both are depicted as omnipotent Oriental despots, cosmic Saddam Husseins,"he said. "It could be a person in the sense of a being that has intelligence and a purpose, I suppose."
There's a lot of conjecture in that article, jethro, but not much "evidence." I didn't say there was. And that really wasn't the main thrust of Limbaugh's article. But it did get you to read it.
Contrary to the position of many atheists, especially those who believe that Christians are reality-challenged and science-averse, theism -- particularly Christianity -- is supported by reliable evidence.
right under your name, without any typographical or verbal indication that you were quoting someone else.
They can't hold a altar candle to the one force that's killed chuch attendance in this City set on a Hill for decades.
"I think that, on such a powerfully holy day, sports should defer to a faith-driven moment in the life of the Christian community,'' said the Rev. Eugene Tiffany, pastor at St. Olaf Catholic Church in downtown Minneapolis. "But they're not going to do that.''
Vikings v Packers Christmas Eve: Be there or be square.
[Edited 3 times. Most recently by on Dec 18, 2004 at 07:41am.]
But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates
If it were x-mas day, I'd say no. But seeing as how the 3 last years for me, on x-mas eve have consisted of white castles and stupid movies, i say yes.
"Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular," William Donohue, president of the Catholic League, explained in a colloquy on the subject recently convened by Pat Buchanan on MSNBC. "It's not a secret, O.K.?" Mr. Donohue continued. "And I'm not afraid to say it."
Gotta familiar ring: Jews destroying a Culture?
And:
"As we close the books on 2004, and not a moment too soon, it's clear that, as far as the culture goes, this year belonged to Mel Gibson's mammoth hit. Its prurient and interminable wallow in the Crucifixion, to the point where Jesus' actual teachings become mere passing footnotes to the sumptuously depicted mutilation of his flesh..."
Its prurient and interminable wallow in the Crucifixion, to the point where Jesus' actual teachings become mere passing footnotes to the sumptuously depicted mutilation of his flesh..."
If Christians were reallycommitted to the word of God, they wouldn't celebrate Christmas in public... and the Puritans in New England once made it against the law.
The Puritans of New England followed a strict interpretation of the Bible, and since there is no mention of the exact date of the birth of Christ, they believed it was inappropriate to observe it on Dec 25. They also frowned upon the drinking, feasting and other carousing associated with the holiday. In 1659 a law was passed making it a criminal offense, punishable by a 5-shilling fine, to publicly observe Christmas in Massachusetts.
I find it strange that conservative Christians, who in past years have made much of the overcommercialization of Christmas, are this year suggesting that stores which don't tie their holiday greetings specifically to Christmas should suffer by having Christians spend lots of money in other places.
I find it strange that conservative Christians, who in past years have made much of the overcommercialization of Christmas, are this year suggesting that stores which don't tie their holiday greetings specifically to Christmas should suffer by having Christians spend lots of money in other places.
The reason the Church chose it was to conflict with a winter pagen Sun festival.
The fact is, Christmas was created in order to take advantage of a pagen holiday's festivities
What led the ecclesiastical authorities to institute the festival of Christmas? The motives for the innovation are stated with great frankness by a Syrian writer [5th. century A.D.]. . . . 'It was the custom of the heathen to celebrate on the same 25th of December the birthday of the Sun, at which [time] they kindled lights in token of festivity. In these solemnities and festivities the Christians also took part. Accordingly when the doctors of the Church perceived that the Christians had a leaning to this festival, they took counsel and resolved that the true nativity [of Christ] should be solemnized on that day.
That it's because it's Christ's birthday is a lie.
Evangelical juggernaut picks up steam
"We just experienced the greatest conservative victory in American history — we have never had a victory like Nov. 2 — and it's the most dangerous time for our movement ever," the evangelical activist and pastor (Jerrry Falwell) told FOXNews.com.
"Falwell said the movement must now fight complacency in the face of looming battles over gay marriage and possible vacancies on the Supreme Court."
[Edited by on Dec 13, 2004 at 02:18pm.]
Contrary to the position of many atheists, especially those who believe that Christians are reality-challenged and science-averse, theism -- particularly Christianity -- is supported by reliable evidence.Â
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/davidlimbaugh/dl20041214.shtml
Where's the reliable evidence that the world is only 6000 years or so old?
There's a lot of conjecture in that article, jethro, but not much "evidence."
Much has been made of Anthony Flew's "conversion," but those who find out what he actually believes may not be quite so delighted.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,141061,00.html
if there is reliable evidence for it, it's no longer a belief.
if there is reliable evidence for it, it's no longer a belief.
Yeah, then it becomes a theory.
:-)
There's a lot of conjecture in that article, jethro, but not much "evidence." I didn't say there was. And that really wasn't the main thrust of Limbaugh's article. But it did get you to read it.
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what you said was...
So lying is OK to get me to give David Limbaugh a website hit? You must explain your "morality" some time.
So lying is OK to get me to give David Limbaugh a website hit? You must explain your "morality" some time.
yea pieter, bodine didn't lie, he repeated David Limbaugh's lie in order to get you to read it.
jethro, you posted:
right under your name, without any typographical or verbal indication that you were quoting someone else.
right under your name, without any typographical or verbal indication that you were quoting someone else.
So, you say the ACLU and liberals undermine religion? --- Hah!!!
They can't hold a altar candle to the one force that's killed chuch attendance in this City set on a Hill for decades.
"I think that, on such a powerfully holy day, sports should defer to a faith-driven moment in the life of the Christian community,'' said the Rev. Eugene Tiffany, pastor at St. Olaf Catholic Church in downtown Minneapolis. "But they're not going to do that.''
Vikings v Packers Christmas Eve: Be there or be square.
[Edited 3 times. Most recently by on Dec 18, 2004 at 07:41am.]
But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates
how many "Christians" keep this commandment?
[Edited by molegrass on Dec 18, 2004 at 08:45am.]
Fold keeps it every day.
[Edited by on Dec 18, 2004 at 04:05pm.]
Damn liberal football players . . .
Pastors Protest District Policy
so much for evolution not being compatible with creationism...
"transform hearts" = indoctrinate
Vikings v. Packers Dec. 24.
Bigger than Christmas in the Twin Cities.
Yea or Nay?
If it were x-mas day, I'd say no. But seeing as how the 3 last years for me, on x-mas eve have consisted of white castles and stupid movies, i say yes.
Bigger than Christmas in the Twin Cities.
Probably, but I won't be watching.
Vikings v. Packers Dec. 24.
Bigger than Christmas in the Twin Cities.
Go to church Christmas morning.
The TV doesn't get turned on in our house on the holidays.
Vikings v. Packers Dec. 24.
Bigger than Christmas in the Twin Cities.
Go to church Christmas morning.
Â
95% of the people that show up will be CEO's anyways?
Christmas and Easter ONLY.
Care to answer the question, Kitch?
I didn't ask for suggestions on when to go to church.
[Edited by on Dec 20, 2004 at 02:20pm.]
Fear the Jews says top Catholic
"Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular," William Donohue, president of the Catholic League, explained in a colloquy on the subject recently convened by Pat Buchanan on MSNBC. "It's not a secret, O.K.?" Mr. Donohue continued. "And I'm not afraid to say it."
Gotta familiar ring: Jews destroying a Culture?
And:
"As we close the books on 2004, and not a moment too soon, it's clear that, as far as the culture goes, this year belonged to Mel Gibson's mammoth hit. Its prurient and interminable wallow in the Crucifixion, to the point where Jesus' actual teachings become mere passing footnotes to the sumptuously depicted mutilation of his flesh..."
Its prurient and interminable wallow in the Crucifixion, to the point where Jesus' actual teachings become mere passing footnotes to the sumptuously depicted mutilation of his flesh..."
95%
of the people that show up will be CEO's anyways?
Christmas and Easter ONLY.
you don't believe that, do you?
bodine is a sinner.
95%
of the people that show up will be CEO's anyways?
Christmas and Easter ONLY.
you don't believe that, do you?
Â
Geez...its a joke...
I used to be a CEO until I discovered football
If Christians were reallycommitted to the word of God, they wouldn't celebrate Christmas in public... and the Puritans in New England once made it against the law.
[Edited by molegrass on Dec 21, 2004 at 10:15pm.]
Crabby suggesting we go back to the days of the Puritans.
Truly a Christmas miracle!
Geez...its a joke...
I am sorry I didn't recognize it. It must have been due to the lack of humor in it.
or the stick wedged up your ass.
or the stick wedged up your ass.
How we see the world
Pretty funny Rick.
I didn't think so.
Oh, you were serious?
I'm suggesting the conservative religious go back to the days of the Puritans and leave the rest of us be.
I find it strange that conservative Christians, who in past years have made much of the overcommercialization of Christmas, are this year suggesting that stores which don't tie their holiday greetings specifically to Christmas should suffer by having Christians spend lots of money in other places.
I find it strange that conservative Christians, who in past years have made much of the overcommercialization of Christmas, are this year suggesting that stores which don't tie their holiday greetings specifically to Christmas should suffer by having Christians spend lots of money in other places.
that's exactly what's going on.
pieter b 12/22/04 3:12pm
I'm ignorant, please explain.
I will say, Christians should more often use their financial power.
That being said, I also agree, that Christmas has become a Hallmark holiday.
Shit, my athiest Father celebrates Christmas.
philosopher
Christmas isn't even Christ's birthday.
The reason the Church chose it was to conflict with a winter pagen Sun festival.
The fact is, Christmas was created in order to take advantage of a pagen holiday's festivities
That it's because it's Christ's birthday is a lie.
[Edited by molegrass on Dec 22, 2004 at 11:06pm.]
They had practical reasons to pick the 25th. They wanted to convert people from pagan worship.
Pretty much worked. Hard to argue with success.
Saturnalia