I hear ya on the bloody mary sauce deal.... good stuff there! :ooh:
My dad's got this kick where he sees something done on one of those backyard bbq shows, and thinks he can out do it.... which is usually the case, after 2 or 3 tries..... so I wait until he perfects a recipe, and then I steal it and make it even better, and piss him off. :cool:
yeah - get a bottle of the pre-made mary mix (I like the trader joe one) and take your meat and poke lots of holes in it - cover it completely in the bottle of marianade in a baggy and massage it - then toss it in the fridge over night to soak in.
when you are getting ready to grill it - roll it in a mix of crack blacked pepper corns for a yummy crust.
and perhaps you can add some olive oil to it and make a not too repulsive salad dressing..
but that is about all it's good for. The VA legal limit in a wine is about 100x's higher than a persons taste threshold - so they can legally bottle this stuff - however, it's bad -really really bad.
I couldn't tell you - I've never been able to choke down more than a sip or two.
Can't imagine getting drunk on it - heck, I don't like it going down the first time - I really don't ever want to find out what it tastes like coming back up.
Now, Vino might be a little prejudiced.... and she does have quite the palate for food and wine. Half of the things she talks about I've never heard of.
I haven't tried $3 buck chuck, but I saw a story on 60 minutes about it. It was getting alot of buzz because it was getting good reviews AND it was cheap. Apparently they buy the grapes from the same vineyards that the spendy wineries do, except they buy the rejected grapes that the other wineries pass on. Of course the other wineries thinks this practice is horrible. But really for the AVERAGE consumer who doesn't know squat about wine, it tastes good and is inexpensive.
no, they don't buy grapes. non of it is actually crushed / fermented at the bronco facility that makes it into $2 chuck.
They buy bulk wine that the spendy wineries kick out,(during the grape glut for as little as $1 a gallon) cause no matter how perfect you think you are making wine - there is always a batch (or 2) that doesn't turn out to be what you want it to be.
Often in the case of 2buck chuck - they buy much of the 'hard press' wine (when pressing grapes - you first catch the free run = best quality, then you have a soft press = 2nd best - then you have a hard press = 3rd.)
The hard press has most of the contact with the final skins and seeds - making it tannic and often more bitter - also when you look into a top of a press tank - you can see an oil film on the top, cause often the grape seeds get damaged and release their oil.
Charles Shaw was a winemaker who prided himself on quality. I am betting he is turning over in his grave - knowing what the Bronco Wine Co. has done to his name and reputation.
Reviews really mean nothing anymore. Infact people who were 'esteemed' such as Robert Parker, and Dan Berger can't be taken seriously now, cause so many other places have taken to reviewing wines.
There is a wine club called the 'double gold' medal club (something like that) - that offers people memebership where they send you a few bottles of wine amonth that were rated 'double gold' by their wine experts.
I'm not positive, but I'm fairly confident I could pee in a bottle - call it chardonnay - send it to them, and it would get a double gold.
heh. sorry. I just hate that. hate hate hate it. I worked for a company a few years ago - Quail Ridge, we had a great reputation. When the place closed (due to the glut) the same B$(%)$d's who bought the Charles Shaw name, also bought our name.
They are planning a 'value' program with the label now... it just makes me heart sick to watch them bottle crap and sell it to the public under a label and reputation they didn't earn.
now if it were just walking distance to an aqua lake/ocean with white sand beaches and lots of sun...mmmmmmmmm
wish I could do it here in the sandstone except real estate here is a million $$ (castle royal sold years back for a mil!)
I have a couple rocks/lavastone from this vineyard -- good wine
the pictures don't do this place justice. The tasting room is up on the hill and the cave is directly under it. We had to walk/ride around and down under on a path along a wooded valley. There is a creek that runs right through the middle of it. This cave was a 30 minute drive into the middle of nowhere, USA! very cool!
I love caves, man....(not to be confused with cavemen...i'm not into them)
theres still a few that are opened up down by the old brick yards.... you need to go a ways back up through trees and all kindsa other crap, way off the main path, to find em though...
Still kinda mad - every time I drive past it - that they closed off that big one under the highbridge.... lots of good memories in that one....
Have a great time in Vegas!
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I feel bad for my boyfriend - says on yahoo 114 in Citrus Heights today and he has an outdoor campaign party he's working. :frown:
the same with Paris...
I wouldnt think that a pool tastes all that good.... you should try hamburgers instead. :goofy:
doing veggies, garlic bread, corn on the cob, meat all on the grill..
then top it all off with some strawberry shortcake.
the wading pool part is awesome - put chairs in the pools (i have two) and you just sit around with your feet nice and wet.
I get stuck with extra work cause a co-worker gets the all expense paid trip out there. Plus I have to put up with the boss and his antics.
but....I'm here to help....
little butcher shop...just about block north of university on rice street...
one of the best steaks I've ever bought....its damn good...
only thing better is "NAMELESS" at morelli's
Also know about the other place you speak of, on Rice....
go to the place on rice....buy a brisket...
brisket is 2.19lb ...I get it for 1.99 as I buy 50lbs a shot...
anyways would cost you about 20bucks.....
toss it on a charcogrill put all the coals on one side...put the brisket on the otherside with a pan of water under it....lower temp the better...
num num nummy!!!
12 hrs later...better than steak...and you can have all your buddy's over....
beer all day long just to sit next to a grill you need to look at about 5 or 6 times...
when I was living in Texas, I couldn't find tri-tip either, until I came across a butcher who had cut out here.
I think it's actually a part that many butchers leave on the bottom sirloin???
identifying a tri-tip
all I know is that marinated in a bloody mary sauce makes it one of the best meals I've ever had.
interesting --gotta recipe?
My dad's got this kick where he sees something done on one of those backyard bbq shows, and thinks he can out do it.... which is usually the case, after 2 or 3 tries..... so I wait until he perfects a recipe, and then I steal it and make it even better, and piss him off. :cool:
when you are getting ready to grill it - roll it in a mix of crack blacked pepper corns for a yummy crust.
Awesome stuff.
although if any of you end up becoming fans of the two buck chuck.. I may have to disassociate myself. :cool:
and I saw it in today's paper....(about coming to woodbury)
there are pleanty of other wines on the market around 5 bucks that don't make my toes curl in disgust.
Or if not, when do we typically find out for sure?
I want to make sure I find out asap so I can request it off.
and perhaps you can add some olive oil to it and make a not too repulsive salad dressing..
but that is about all it's good for. The VA legal limit in a wine is about 100x's higher than a persons taste threshold - so they can legally bottle this stuff - however, it's bad -really really bad.
I mean if I buy it...I've only got one thing in mind for it...
Can't imagine getting drunk on it - heck, I don't like it going down the first time - I really don't ever want to find out what it tastes like coming back up.
I love that place... especially when I get to hang out with WWE Divas
I haven't tried $3 buck chuck, but I saw a story on 60 minutes about it. It was getting alot of buzz because it was getting good reviews AND it was cheap. Apparently they buy the grapes from the same vineyards that the spendy wineries do, except they buy the rejected grapes that the other wineries pass on. Of course the other wineries thinks this practice is horrible. But really for the AVERAGE consumer who doesn't know squat about wine, it tastes good and is inexpensive.
They buy bulk wine that the spendy wineries kick out,(during the grape glut for as little as $1 a gallon) cause no matter how perfect you think you are making wine - there is always a batch (or 2) that doesn't turn out to be what you want it to be.
Often in the case of 2buck chuck - they buy much of the 'hard press' wine (when pressing grapes - you first catch the free run = best quality, then you have a soft press = 2nd best - then you have a hard press = 3rd.)
The hard press has most of the contact with the final skins and seeds - making it tannic and often more bitter - also when you look into a top of a press tank - you can see an oil film on the top, cause often the grape seeds get damaged and release their oil.
There is a wine club called the 'double gold' medal club (something like that) - that offers people memebership where they send you a few bottles of wine amonth that were rated 'double gold' by their wine experts.
I'm not positive, but I'm fairly confident I could pee in a bottle - call it chardonnay - send it to them, and it would get a double gold.
it's a crock to sell more wine.
Chateau Beauregard - Rhone blend (i think it's at cost plus for $3.99 a bottle)
Jest Red - from Belevedere is $10
also Pastiche from RH Phillips is under $10 a bottle
all are incredible wines made inexpensively.
Columbia Crest (washington wine) does an ok job with their whites, and some of their reds (cab - merlot) are fantastic too.
you don't have to pay alot for a good bottle - but please please please don't drink the two buck chuck.
geez....you'd think she broke the cork or something...
They are planning a 'value' program with the label now... it just makes me heart sick to watch them bottle crap and sell it to the public under a label and reputation they didn't earn.
Beer.
I'll take 2 please. Something nice to give to my (un)loveable neighbors... Like the guy I pulled out in front of yesterday... Whoops
I'll let cha know how the hangover is. :lipsealed:
now if it were just walking distance to an aqua lake/ocean with white sand beaches and lots of sun...mmmmmmmmm
wish I could do it here in the sandstone except real estate here is a million $$ (castle royal sold years back for a mil!)
I have a couple rocks/lavastone from this vineyard -- good wine
the pictures don't do this place justice. The tasting room is up on the hill and the cave is directly under it. We had to walk/ride around and down under on a path along a wooded valley. There is a creek that runs right through the middle of it. This cave was a 30 minute drive into the middle of nowhere, USA! very cool!
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theres still a few that are opened up down by the old brick yards.... you need to go a ways back up through trees and all kindsa other crap, way off the main path, to find em though...
Still kinda mad - every time I drive past it - that they closed off that big one under the highbridge.... lots of good memories in that one....
beach is 20 minutes away, river is 2 min away.
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