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2007 St. Paul Winter Carnival Medallion -ACT I

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354 Wabasha St N
Saint Paul, MN 55102-1418, US&cid=lfmaplink2&name=&dtype=s\">Map of 354 Wabasha St N
Saint Paul, MN 55102-1418, US 

Matty B\'s is the home of the Cooler Crew. We\'ve got a party going on every evening from 8 until the clue is released. Sunday night, if the hunt goes that long, the bar will be open but food will not be available. 

Clues: 

Clue No. 1 (Sunday, Jan. 21) 
Welcome ice and snow and temperatures low 
There’s no time for cold feet! 
For searchers’ pleasure we’ve parked the treasure 
Where nature lovers each other greet 

Clue No. 2 (Monday, Jan. 22) 
Boreas\' vast realm can overwhelm 
Even diggers used to the long haul 
So here\'s advice to put your hunt on ice: 
Look no farther than good old St. Paul 

Clue No. 3 (Tuesday, Jan. 23) 
Hunters can be surly but in clue-time it’s early 
Be safe, friends, and in the hunt revel 
Near land that is high the treasure is nigh 
Vagueness rules and that’s on the level



 

Clue Master

2005- Under a piece of bark in a wooded area

That worked for me but the others sucked big time.
Sun, 01/14/2007 - 12:51 AM Permalink
me2

good morning ::coffee in hand, cuddled under a blanker next to a space heater::

Whats the clue?.... um, er dang, thats next week :frown:
Sun, 01/14/2007 - 5:42 AM Permalink
me2

hey aw, ty for putting that list together.

I was just thinking about that- here is taking it a step forward

2002-MERRIAM- Hidden under nothing but a thin layer of melting snow, sitting right at 2nd base on a baseball diamond.


clue writer said he'd NEVER place it in a park this size again

it was hidden in the open

the theory that the medallion was 'dropped' after the hunt had begun was up for discussion because supposedly the medallion was stuck to a foil pringles/chip top with only tape.

theme- ?? mmmm not really

history - ?? not really any - just pinpoints a church and the school

clues are straight forward and to the point - you see this and you see this and you see this- one clue/one thing in the park

2003- COMO-Frozen in some ice in the middle of a big wooded area where none of the clues would actually guide you to.

went to the extreme from the prior year, placing it in the woods instead of in the wide open

and supposedly placed it when there was NO snow on the ground

then we got dumped on during the hunt

the clue writer becomes humorous at this point with his clues - "vultures"

an additional clue for this hunt was in the rules. The medallion will not be on Capitol grounds.

theme- ??

history - crosby gates & Ann Bilansky

some of the clues were straight forward but this year there were some far offbase ideas thrown in the mix

2004- Phalen- Green doughnut, need I say more?

cluewriter did the same as the prior year- hid it in a wooded area of the park

BUT, not to deep in the park - clues pinpointed a little better than the year before - he's testing his skills and tweaking a bit by using an anagram and bible verse -thinking outside the box a bit

and the hiding spot was techniqually easier to get to than the prior year

The clue writer had a theme this year- comic book

light snowfall again this year

history - Edward Phalen

- overall this shoulda been the perfect hunt if it wern't for WHAT it was hidden in.

2005- Crosby-Under a piece of bark in a wooded area.

I think the clue writer was trying to tweak his skills.

History - Thomas Crosby

went with the same theory as the previous 2 hunts and placed it in a wooded area

didn't hide it in anything? so food would never be a factor

2006-Battle Creek- Covered by some snow on the side of a hill.

now whats sorta interesting here is that a candy wrapper was used! um, duh! didn't he learn the first time that animals can smell. So he took a minor chance, placing it outside of the wooded area where hopefully no animal will find it.

He took it out of the woods - he's feeling a little more relaxed after that incident in 2002. feeling that its ok to not hide it so hard, but in the end learning that once again, people do find it in 6 clues.

theme - spoof on vulcans

history - pearson nut roll & indian conflict

  • he used some sort of food or food wrapper in 3 out of 5 hunts and really nothing (snow & ice) in the other 2

  • always a street clue
  • Sun, 01/14/2007 - 5:57 AM Permalink
    me2

  • he doesn't do a good job of placement of clues - he gives close ones and far ones and mixes them up instead of the furthest point bringing us to the closest point.

  • clue in 2002 Merriam matches clue on 2006 Battle Creek

    both meant the same thing - hilly/side of a hill

    in the brow of a hill you will find

    you may knit your brows on this one
  • Sun, 01/14/2007 - 6:36 AM Permalink
    East Side Digger

    Oh Oh if they think we have the clue writer figured out they might change them.

    And if the clue writer is not very good that knocks Joe Soucheray out of the running.
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 7:02 AM Permalink
    Allison Wonderland

    - overall this shoulda been the perfect hunt if it wern't for WHAT it was hidden in.

    Actually, I sort of disagree. At the time the thing was hidden, there was no snow and according to the explanations, it was just sitting under a tree at the bottom of the pit. By clue 3 or 4 I believe people had already checked that spot, and if it wouldn't have snowed, this might have been the shortest hunt in history. It was only through twists of fate that Phalen went to 12 clues.
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 7:51 AM Permalink
    jakeinge

    Hello ladies.
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 7:56 AM Permalink
    jakeinge

    Actually Allison, Steve and I were down in the pit with the FRESH snow about 8:30 am Saturday morning. It would have been over by noon, with Steve and I the winners.
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 7:57 AM Permalink
    me2

    youre right, perfect probably wasnt the best word for it - after I thought about the clues they were still obscure -giving us things in the park but not really near the spot- However, I liked the new twists on the clues- ie: anagram and bible verse

    that Don Quiote and windmills is still over my head

    Ares pointed out, and I have to agree, that on Battle Creek, out of 10 clues -8 were references to things in the park and only 2 were references to NEAR the spot -I found the same idea with Phalen.... lots of references to things in the park but very little on NEAR the spot. That goes for Como too. Triple E and such - lots of clues for things IN the park but not necessarily NEAR the spot -

    and then there is that one clue per hunt that is far away -

    Como: the Le Nord Toilet school ::rolls eyes::

    Battle Creek: the highway 61, point douglas road and even Woodbury being the clues that were so far away from the actual spot

    Crosby - Pike Island was NO WHERE NEAR the actual spot and shoulda never been in clue 11 but maybe clue 4 or 5. Pike Island clue woulda taken me further away from the hiding spot.

    Merriam - the only good 'far away clue' since this writer began- the church steeple- it was 2-3 blocks away BUT you could see the steeple cross at least

    Phalen - Sherwood was on the other side of the park :frown: the bouncing balls didn't mean the balls on the wall at the far end of the park? :::rolls eyes::

    MY POINT: the clues are mixed up- clue 11 may not bring you close to the spot but get people to the park that still didn't know what park. You can't assume that each clue will bring you closer to the spot! Just figure out the park and go to town digging is all one can do with this writer!
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 8:04 AM Permalink
    KITCH

    ummm......no...it was at the top of the hill sillly...
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 10:21 AM Permalink
    Terry

    For the exact location of the medallion - see Clue Master's photo from the night before it was found. :sillygrin: :goofy: :pbpt:
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 11:19 AM Permalink
    Terry

    Last evening, Mom, Dad and the girls stopped over to show us the proof of this year's Cooler Crew button. I think you'll all like it.

    Find Mom at the Pre-dig Gig to get yours!

    Can you believe it's been 10 years!?!?!?!?!?!?!
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 11:22 AM Permalink
    mrmnmikey

    Oh c'mon, It should loosen it up a bit first.
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 12:37 PM Permalink
    mrmnmikey

    I remember seeing you guys and thinking to my self "I'm not going in there till the clues tell me to go in there" and walking by. I only knew you guys from online at the time. That was before I met you all in person.
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 12:50 PM Permalink
    Wicked Nick

    actually....

    It wasnt anyplace - top or bottom of the hill - until the last day.... :goofy: :cool:
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 1:17 PM Permalink
    jakeinge

    I think it's time to take a drive.....
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 5:34 PM Permalink
    ThoseMedallingKids

    Saw Jake at Target tonight. He's getting ready for the hunt. Heck, I think the hunt is actually starting for him tonight.
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 6:08 PM Permalink
    becksie

    It's beautiful, fluffy, sparkling snow, too! :ooh:
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 7:05 PM Permalink
    LiLMan

    Let it snow baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool:
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 7:16 PM Permalink
    Mr. Med Hunter

    THE DEED IS DONE!
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 7:35 PM Permalink
    tim_the_hunter

    so, where did you put it?
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 7:49 PM Permalink
    Terry

    This is the best chance to get it down. Let's hope it's done.
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 7:51 PM Permalink
    jakeinge

    Holy shit is there a lot of snow out there. I froze my balls off to boot.
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 8:39 PM Permalink
    OT

    My daughter and I were shoveling and she had to leave. She told me she'd watch me until I got inside the house. I said, "Who's going inside?" I was loving it! :grin:
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 9:00 PM Permalink
    KITCH

    kids are going to love this for their day off..
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 9:04 PM Permalink
    Clue Master

    :angry: :angry: :frown: :wink:
    Sun, 01/14/2007 - 10:37 PM Permalink
    KC0GRN

    Shoveled some snow at 1:45 am. Felt like training for next week, heh.
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 12:20 AM Permalink
    zephyrus

    If it makes you feel better, it looks like a reflection of the bright light in the picture...

    Like the dots you get when you take pics of the sun...
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 1:13 AM Permalink
    KC0GRN

    the technical term would be "lens flare".

    And yes, that is the most likely reason for the artifact showing up on the picture. Still, can't deny it's a blue light in the area that the medallion was eventually found at.

    I still like the conspiracy theory edge to it though, you don't get a lot of photographic evidence in the hunt to mess with.

    I mean like I've never seen a blurry image of a spotter yet (hoping from something big footish).
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 1:25 AM Permalink
    mrmnmikey

    Have to get out and look for dog tracks and footprints.

    mrmnmikey [2fc0f9a]- Jan 15, 2007 6:44 am (#690 Total: 690)



    beware of hammer throwing chimps.





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    Joe
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 6:44 AM Permalink
    ares

    thats cuz its a ramsey county park, not st paul.
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 7:21 AM Permalink
    ares

    so you're a girl now, eh? or a eunuch? :smile:
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 7:24 AM Permalink
    me2

    I think he just wanted them available for the snowball fight





    what Target were you guys at last night?

    I was at the Midway Target around 5-ish
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 8:59 AM Permalink
    OT

    I was really disappointed that they dismantled the Wakota bridge (the bridge CM refers to as Stinky Bridge) instead of blowing that sucker up! I guess it was just too close to the new span for that to be an option, and Lord knows they've had enough problems and delays already to risk that. :frown:
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 9:05 AM Permalink
    me2

    I was down there the other night- got some pics- at that point they only had 1 piece taken off the arch of the bridge. It looks so different. I wonder where they are putting the arch pieces - I'd love one in my yard or in Alice park.

    I'll see if I can find you a couple pics that I took later OT.
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 9:32 AM Permalink
    King Boreas aka Ian

    Both gates are closed at Hidden Falls. What's up with that?
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 9:37 AM Permalink
    me2

    mmmmmmmmmm good call Ian - if its hidden there than it woulda hafta been hidden before last night
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 9:42 AM Permalink
    Wicked Nick

    I was at wally world right down the street from there, at 4:30-5:00 or so.... :confused:
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 10:02 AM Permalink
    OT

    Thanks me2 :smile:

    The really pathetic thing is that I remember when the "old" bridge was built. :eek: Closest bridge across the Mississippi was the railroad bridge. Now that bridge was a trip! My drivers training instructor took everyone across that before you passed the test. :smile:

    When they built 494 they used the Church St. corridor in SSP. Then they connected up to highway 100, which is now called 110. I still call 110 highway 100 which can be really confusing if I'm giving directions. They burned down all of the houses along Church St. to clear it. My friends and I spent many hours sitting on the hill watching houses burn. :neutral: :worried:

    So I've outlived a steel bridge. lol
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 10:04 AM Permalink
    Wicked Nick

    I went and stole a bunch of pieces of the Earl Street Bridge, before they replaced that, here on the east side. :goofy:
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 10:31 AM Permalink
    OT

    I know people who have whole patios built from the bricks from the stockyards. The sidewalks around the new exchange building are paved with them too. They're pretty cool because a lot of them are stamped South St. Paul Union Stockyards.

    We picked up a few at the time they were giving them away, but I have no idea where they are now.
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 10:38 AM Permalink
    Eags

    me2, do you live close to Alice Park? I was born across the street from there at 37 Alice Court, my grandparents lived at 40 Alice Court. We played in that park all the time when we were kids...its seemed HUGE then!
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 10:41 AM Permalink
    Posen

    It IS huge...took us forever to find Jake's medallion...way huge.... :eyeroll:
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 10:56 AM Permalink
    ThoseMedallingKids

    We were at the Robert Street Super Target
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 11:07 AM Permalink
    OT

    This reminds me of when I figured out Taters lived across the street from me. :smile:
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 11:08 AM Permalink
    me2

    I was just at the Target on Robert

    I collect historical bricks OT- so if you ever have a spare stockyards please don't hesitate to send it my way

    Eags - I live at 11 - you musta had a nice view of the city from one of the bedroom/back windows! my daughters x-friend lives at 37 now. They have put quite a bit of cha-ching into that place since the dad died a few years back.

    41 Alice- a young couple with 2 small children live there now - I think the man teaches history at Macalester. I'd love to talk with you and hear your stories on the park and neighborhood. will you be at the pre-dig?
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 1:58 PM Permalink
    Clue Master

    Cool pix me2

    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 2:21 PM Permalink
    Eags

    me2,

    they must have changed the house number from 40 to 41? that would make sense, since they are right next to each other on the same side of the street.

    I won't be able to be in town for the hunt this year. I live 400 miles from there (hoping to change that this summer!) and was hoping to get back for the gigs and hunt, but have other things pressing that are keeping me here right now.

    I'll try to scan some photos of 37 and 40/41 from "back in the day". I was three years old when we moved out of that house in 1956, but my grandparents lived at 40 for another seven years and I recall a lot of overnights at grandma's where we even slept on the balcony on the back of the house, looking at downtown and the stars.
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 3:50 PM Permalink
    OT

    I'll get you some if I ever stumble onto my supply, me2.
    Mon, 01/15/2007 - 3:52 PM Permalink