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2007 St. Paul Winter Carnival Medallion -ACT I

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354 Wabasha St N
Saint Paul, MN 55102-1418, US&cid=lfmaplink2&name=&dtype=s\">Map of 354 Wabasha St N
Saint Paul, MN 55102-1418, US 

Matty B\'s is the home of the Cooler Crew. We\'ve got a party going on every evening from 8 until the clue is released. Sunday night, if the hunt goes that long, the bar will be open but food will not be available. 

Clues: 

Clue No. 1 (Sunday, Jan. 21) 
Welcome ice and snow and temperatures low 
There’s no time for cold feet! 
For searchers’ pleasure we’ve parked the treasure 
Where nature lovers each other greet 

Clue No. 2 (Monday, Jan. 22) 
Boreas\' vast realm can overwhelm 
Even diggers used to the long haul 
So here\'s advice to put your hunt on ice: 
Look no farther than good old St. Paul 

Clue No. 3 (Tuesday, Jan. 23) 
Hunters can be surly but in clue-time it’s early 
Be safe, friends, and in the hunt revel 
Near land that is high the treasure is nigh 
Vagueness rules and that’s on the level



 

regman

See ya, Lilman!
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 4:47 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

Blahs' blah blah blah blah

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah:

Look no farther than good old St. Paul
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 4:47 PM Permalink
regman

exactly!
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 4:48 PM Permalink
LiLMan

I with ya Tim
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 4:48 PM Permalink
LiLMan

see yaeh reg
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 4:48 PM Permalink
LiLMan

great waters or Matty B's

anyone?
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 4:50 PM Permalink
mucluck

I've got some stuff to do then will head to Matty B's
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 4:52 PM Permalink
excavating stud

Only time will tell.
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 4:55 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

matty b's
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 5:03 PM Permalink
leelabell

Does Matty B's have a bar menu for food? Or, just the dinner menu?
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 5:04 PM Permalink
barefootguy

What time do you guys usually head over to the PP from Matty B's?
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 5:14 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

supposed to be 11:30, I'm sure we'll send a scout to make sure they actually are there tonight
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 5:20 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I like that noodle.
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 5:38 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Regman you rock. In case I haven't told you in the last three years since the last time I saw you...
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 5:51 PM Permalink
'mom'

I do too -- too early to know if it's going to mean anything I think, but it's a good one to keep in the back of one's mind!
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 6:06 PM Permalink
New Daddy

I think we all need another clue. I like the on the rocks idea but I think the keep it simple rule applys,

there have ben 2 other clues with a colon in the past 10 yrs: and the colon had no meaning to the clue. not much help from those clues.
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 6:17 PM Permalink
zephyrus

good icebreaker, ND!
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 6:18 PM Permalink
Map Guy

I think its under the newspaper box in front of the Pioneer Press.
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 6:20 PM Permalink
Brassmonkey

could the two nature lovers who greet be Thomas Crosby and Henry Cleveland?
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 6:21 PM Permalink
zephyrus

possible...
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 6:23 PM Permalink
Brassmonkey

Cleveland dedicated hidden falls as a park and created a tree nursery, Crosby staked out his land for what is now Crosby park ans a vast nature area..
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 6:24 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Good call... I was thinking of someone elses post (maybe yours) about the HF/Crosby meet... I like it :smile: But I really/really want it to be HF anyway, so anything pointing me that way is gonna sound good to me...
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 6:26 PM Permalink
Brassmonkey

I think it was me earlier today, I too want it to be HF, i still remember 93, what a great hunt that was.
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 6:27 PM Permalink
zephyrus

I was thinking a little further back... like '54
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 6:28 PM Permalink
Brassmonkey

yeah, thats a little further
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 6:32 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

crosby wasn't a nature lover though was he? He was a farmer
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 6:36 PM Permalink
Posen

I think you're overlooking the obvious....by simply taking the first letter of the last word of the first line of each clue..you can see it clearly spells out L-O-N-G-L-A-K-E-P-A-R-K....

...well, at least it spells out L-O... :eyeroll:
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 6:49 PM Permalink
Med2k

Time is at a premium this year, but it's not going to stop me from getting out as much as I can. How is everyone?
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 6:56 PM Permalink
Mr. Med Hunter

I believe it's going to spell out "Long Lake Park is a joke"!
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 6:59 PM Permalink
Formo

Ok for the The Old St. Paul part Â…..have the city lines been changed at all? Or is there a part of St. Paul that is referred to as being old? I know where I am from there is a part of town that we refer to as Old New BrightonÂ…or a street that we refer to as Old CentralÂ….I dunno just putting it out thereÂ….gotta look more I guess.
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 7:26 PM Permalink
Scribe

If you take the first letter from the second word of each phrase and the third letter from the fourth word, it anagrams:

HOLCOMBE CIRCLE :ooh:
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 7:43 PM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

Mon, 01/22/2007 - 7:45 PM Permalink
Scribe

I have that framed in my living room! Have you ever heard the music played?
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 7:48 PM Permalink
Posen

Using the obvious zip code clue in:

Boreas' vast realm can overwhelm

and using the Boreas Decoder Ring from the 1939 carnival, we take the number of letters in each word of the line and implement the well-known Decoder Equation of (-1, +1, -4, -2, -7) and we arrive at the numbers 55112...zip code for New Brighton...home of Long Lake Regional Park....sheesh...why am I the only guy (take note, Redbear) out here looking?

 :eyeroll:
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 8:02 PM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

Beaver Lake
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 8:10 PM Permalink
regman

haha..you rock too, Zeph!
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 8:13 PM Permalink
KT

I think my favorite part of the hunt is Ian's pic......
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 8:15 PM Permalink
OT

I've been searching for that song all day! Thank you! All I could remember was "old St. Paul".
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 8:34 PM Permalink
New Daddy

old St Paul... old name for St paul is Pig's eye.

Pig's eye lake nature preserve is part of battle creek part...according to friends of parks.

for you bird noodlers- pigs eye lake is one of the largest egret rookeries in the mid west. I don't buy it but thought I'd share.
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 8:36 PM Permalink
New Daddy

Friends of Parks Home

Pigs Eye Lake Unit

Acres: 1159

Special Notes:

For permit information call 297-2357

Located in: St. Paul

Operated by: County

Themes: Regional Park

Part of Park: Battle Creek - Ramsey County

Activities:

Natural

Description:

Pig's Eye Lake is an undeveloped 1159 acre natural area surrounded by river industry. It contains one of the largest heron and egret rookeries in a metropolitan area in the upper midwest. Recently eagles have established nests there and some of them winter there. The peninsula where the rookery is, is protected by the Department of Natural Resources as a Scientific and Natural Area. The area provides spectacular bird watching. The herons and egrets return to St. Paul around St. Patrick's Day, March l7. Best bird watching is on the south side of the Mississippi River from the bluffs in South St. Paul.

Joe :smile:

1159 acres- that is an overwhelming area for the long haul hunt
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 8:39 PM Permalink
blackcat

JUst a silly noodle here... hunt on ice=drink on the rocks.. =Love on the rocks a Neil Diamond song from the movie The Jazz singer?

OK it's a big stretch but wev'e over cooked these noodles. :ooh:
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 8:50 PM Permalink
KT

Awesome! Newdaddy!

I've been sharing the clues with a couple incredible people online, who have NO clue about the hunt, or St.Paul, and both of them brought up birds.

BTW- I was down on Warner road today, just off 61, and a Bald Eagle soared above my truck.....

That was SO very cooler.
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 8:51 PM Permalink
New Daddy

cool eagle.

I saw a Robin yesterday. either a cold stupid robin. or a robin confused by global warmning(and still cold)
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 8:55 PM Permalink
KT

Those dang wayward Robins-

Don't they know we have no worms?
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 9:03 PM Permalink
queenmalley

so do you think the clue is out at 11:30?
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 9:06 PM Permalink
New Daddy

Here is a nice anagram from the PP board. the rest speaks for itself for over noodleing.



From: searching Jan-22 9:42 pm

To: ALL (1 of 6)

  5193.1

Cherokee noodle: (Or how my mind has twisted the two clues to confirm my expectation that the medallion is in Cherokee park.)

#1

Welcome ice and snow and temperatures low

ice and snow anagram: (a second win) Kirk Condie has found the medallion twice, the first time he found it in Newell park, the second time it was found in Cherokee park. Kirk Condie was a well respected searcher that appears in No Time For Cold Feet, according to the Not Another Hollywood Movie website. (More on why this is an anagram later..)

There's no time for cold feet!

A reference from the writer to the movie, both as a nod to the film and the various personalities that the writer has come to know.

For searchers' pleasure we've parked our treasure

Stating that the medallion is in a park, but the parked alludes to the history of Cherokee park when it used to be a popular place to park on a date.

Where nature lovers each other greet

Confirming that it is in a park, but near where two or more parks, not people meet. Cherokee park meets the Bruce Vento Scenic overlook at the intersection of 13 and Annapolis. There is also a sign leading to the scenic overlook posted at the southern end of the above mentioned parking area. Multiple parks meet up to Cherokee park, Lillydale, Bruce Vento Scenic overlook and Harriet Island are all with a stones throw at various locations.

#2

Boreas' vast realm can overwhelm

Boreas was king of the north, this is saying don't get overwhelmed and stay in the southern half of the city.

Even diggers used to the long haul

Diggers is a reference to the clay mining that occurred under and around Cherokee park. The long haul is a reference to the length of the high bridge

So here's advice to put your hunt on ice:

Why the semi-colon after ice? While it could be grammatically correct might it be a flag waving out that says, hey notice me? If that flag is acceptable 'on ice' then where should we look? back to clue # 1 for the earlier instance.. ahh.. now you see the beginnings of my dilemna..

Look no farther than good old St. Paul

As long as we take this to simply mean the medallion is in St. Paul it works. The string that unravels the whole tapestry I've woven is Cherokee park is not really considered part of 'old St. Paul' The west side of St. Paul was originally a township and small city of West St. Paul, that was annexed many years after the incorporation of the City iof St. Paul. Irvine and Rice parks are the oldest parks in St. Paul. So hopefully 'old' is just a meaningless word in this line.

With that said: My mind is dissecting this way too much ..I think I should be able to definitively pinpoint the exact loaction of the medallion within 10 feet once the next clue comes out in 3.356734 hours.

You may think I'm mental, right now I do too :wink: It's all part of the fun of the hunt. Happy hunting everyone!
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 9:22 PM Permalink
OT

That's very cool! I saw that posted over there but I usually don't read those long posts. :grin:
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 9:24 PM Permalink
excavating stud

That's almost painful to read. Sad thing is I've been there.
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 9:25 PM Permalink
New Daddy

straw poll time. clue #2 does it say in St paul or Out.

I vote out.
Mon, 01/22/2007 - 9:32 PM Permalink