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me2

A new employee just reported to your unit within the last week. One of his duties is to access taxpayer records using one of the IRS computer systems. He has yet to receive his login ID and password. He asks you if he can use your logon ID and password so he can start his duties right away. What would you do?

Tell him to talk to his manager.

OR

Tell him that you cannot do that, but you will be happy to assist him in requesting his login ID and password.

I find both answers correct but what do you think?

I wouldn't be giving him access but showing him how to request it?

what is the correct response? I can't pick both. but they are probably looking for manager. I'm not his boss. but still, coworkers should help refer them to the right place.
Thu, 05/14/2009 - 1:13 PM Permalink
Clue Master

A: Talk to your manager

I don't have time to waste on doing your job for you since I'm a level 5 and helping you get your information is a level 3 job with the assistance of a level 7 status. Legally, I can't help you. Now go find a closet somewhere and take a nap while the level 3 tries to find you so you can both meet with your level 7 manager.

ie - leave me alone. I'm payed by the government and aren't supposed to do any more than I'm asked. :eyeroll:
Thu, 05/14/2009 - 1:26 PM Permalink
me2

I'm finding these hard to answer because most are a double answer.

I would do more than one. and I can tell they want to know how much I would give back to my manager. Interesting since TECHNICALLY it is the managers job but I want to look like I'm worth having by doing work and not delegating it back to the boss.

These questionaires take forever.
Thu, 05/14/2009 - 1:46 PM Permalink
Eags

Has anyone here ever applied at Lowe's?

I did, when the Lowe's was opening up here last fall.

They ask, before they will even let you into the online applications, how much you have stolen from previous employers, and there are several questions addressing this, from "how much cash", "how much in office supplies", etc.

And it is asked in such a way that it sounds like everyone does it.

There are options to say you haven't stolen anything, but they are worded just like all the other responses, as though any answer is fine as long as it is the truth.

Looked to me like it was the CYA "in case we have to fire you someday" part of the process.
Thu, 05/14/2009 - 1:51 PM Permalink
me2

I applied with HomeDepot admin work in an office in Brooklyn Park today but nothing about stealing on the questionaire.
Thu, 05/14/2009 - 4:02 PM Permalink
KITCH

ick...long drive :frown:
Thu, 05/14/2009 - 4:28 PM Permalink
Clue Master

ick - can't steal :confused:
Thu, 05/14/2009 - 7:27 PM Permalink
Grey Wolf

That's one of those honesty tests that retailers have used off and on for years. They ask the same questions in different ways to see if you are telling the truth.

Got any pens at home from someone you worked for?
Thu, 05/14/2009 - 7:30 PM Permalink
OT

Sounds like the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory. Do they still give that test to entering freshmen at the U?
Thu, 05/14/2009 - 7:48 PM Permalink
ares

they didn't give it to me in 99
Thu, 05/14/2009 - 7:54 PM Permalink
OT

Too bad. It was a trip. Asked questions like, "Do you ever dream of strangling your mother?" "Are there often snakes in your bed?" That kind of thing.
Thu, 05/14/2009 - 7:57 PM Permalink
Mad_Dach5und

I really don't think there's much at Home Depot / Lowes worth stealing that wouldn't require a pickup truck to haul away.

That being said, there's probably a $1,000 lost every day with people taking one single nut or bolt instead of bothering with weighing it or looking up the price on a chart. Good God, I've seen people ARGUE about the price of a single nut being 11 cents instead of 14 at the checkout.

I think Cluey's new high heels would probably cost $1.79 in spare parts at the Depot. Haven't really shopped around for a better deal on THOSE, yet...

Clue Master, "What irritates you?" #11472, 14 May 2009 2:34 pm
Thu, 05/14/2009 - 7:59 PM Permalink
me2

that diamond studded B has to be worth more than that
Thu, 05/14/2009 - 8:17 PM Permalink
Clue Master

I got your diamond studded B right here :cool:

sorry - too easy :eyeroll: :wink:
Thu, 05/14/2009 - 8:20 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

Tell him that you cannot do that, but you will be happy to assist him in requesting his login ID and password.

This is the correct response.

The other option is passing the buck. Take ownership!

He's new and might not know who his manager is.
Thu, 05/14/2009 - 9:37 PM Permalink
KITCH

I can't even get a postit note pad when i beg for one...how could i steal one??
Fri, 05/15/2009 - 5:51 AM Permalink
Eags

Got any pens at home from someone you worked for?



Nope! Except for the ones given us as "rewards" at product launches. No post-its or other stuff like that, either.

I just thought it was interesting that the questionnaire was the first thing before they'd let you into the application. I thought perhaps they were screening with it, and if you answered wrong, you wouldn't even be allowed to get to the application. Or at the very least it would go into your file in case they ever let you go.

The questions were more about putting value on what you've stolen, and were heavily worded to get you to say you had stolen, IMHO.

Fri, 05/15/2009 - 6:08 AM Permalink
ares

He's new and might not know who his manager is.

the question stated that he started within the week. he ought to know by that point who he reports to; they should have met him the morning of day 1. in addition, he should have also received his credentials from his manager on day 1. the correct answer is to send him back to his manager, because the choices available for the chances of you having the ability to help him request his username and password as a peon yourself are "slim" and "none".
Fri, 05/15/2009 - 10:08 AM Permalink
Clue Master

I would assume that any access needs to be signed off by his manager anyway. So you could only get so far before needing Mr. Bossman regardless.
Fri, 05/15/2009 - 10:44 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I disagree,

They don't want people that pass the buck and let someone else deal with the problem.

Many new hires only meet their immediate supervisor the first few days and don't meet the manager right away. Maybe in a perfect world...

How would you feel if you were new and asked someone to help you and were shunned and told to go to your manager? Probably would not like that person much. Not a good way to build team cohesiveness.
Fri, 05/15/2009 - 10:46 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Being a manager, I don't want my new employee going to anyone other than me. Not only is it my job but also makes me look bad if some newbie doesn't know what to do to get access.

What if the newbie asks my boss to help him? My boss would be wondering WTH is up with me and the new guy.
Fri, 05/15/2009 - 10:50 AM Permalink
ares

Many new hires only meet their immediate supervisor the first few days and don't meet the manager right away. Maybe in a perfect world...

ahh. there's the key. in my line of work, the immediate supervisor is the manager so i'm kinda blinded in that regard. if the immediate supervisor isn't the manager, then they should be directed to go see the supervisor. when it comes to login credentials, on day one the accounts should have already been set up by it, and the supervisor should have them in his or her possession. regardless this isn't passing the buck, as its something the newbie's supervisor should have acquired in the first place, since logins are generally not self-service items.
Fri, 05/15/2009 - 11:02 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

Well any further discussion should be directed at Me2, since it was her question, not mine. I just provided my opinion.
Fri, 05/15/2009 - 11:04 AM Permalink
ares

well then how about we agree to say that it largely depends on the organizational structure of the place?

which of course doesn't do one bit of good for me2, but hey discussion is fun :smile:
Fri, 05/15/2009 - 11:09 AM Permalink
me2

I liked everyones discussion on this.

There were many questions like this one where I would answer in unison. I would do more than one thing to accomplish the task. I agree that it's not a good thing to make the newbie feel unwelcome and try to help as well as direct them to the manager OR people who give passwords (IT).

The question was tricky in the way it was written. It asked if I would help direct them to the right person to get help and not just back to their manager IF I REMEMBER the question correctly. Thats why I had trouble with it. It's not like the answer was saying "would you make them a password and get them access"?
Fri, 05/15/2009 - 11:11 AM Permalink
Clue Master

wow

I have this stub but it's MF1 row 2 (one of my most prized possessions)
Fri, 05/15/2009 - 12:23 PM Permalink
KITCH

give ya a buck for it...
Fri, 05/15/2009 - 12:29 PM Permalink
Clue Master

You can take a flying buck in return :cool:
Fri, 05/15/2009 - 1:06 PM Permalink
KITCH

man...if i owned a flying buck...I think I could sell that...

wasn't Donner and Dasher flying bucks.
Fri, 05/15/2009 - 1:14 PM Permalink
Clue Master

U R Right! :cool:
Mon, 05/18/2009 - 6:23 AM Permalink
Clue Master

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Mon, 05/18/2009 - 7:59 AM Permalink
Redbear

Question for the group (serious question):

My inlaws, who are absolutely nuts, over this past weekend made it known that they think my wife and I "Spend money like pirates."

Question is this: I genuinely have no idea what that means. anybody have an idea?
Mon, 05/18/2009 - 8:25 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Jeeze - I would think that it means you save well but when you do spend, you spend it on wasteful comfort things such as booze and crack :smile:

No idea here either

joe!
Mon, 05/18/2009 - 8:41 AM Permalink
Eags

How Somali pirates spend money:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/100/story/58111.html

Maybe they meant Pittburgh Pirates?

Software pirates?

Maybe they said "pilots"??? (with a nod to Pirates of Penzance)

On the other hand, maybe they just have a stick up their ass...I'll bet they are the type who squeeze a quarter until the eagle shrieks, eh?
Mon, 05/18/2009 - 8:59 AM Permalink
KITCH

"Is there any Somali who can earn a million dollars for any business? We get millions of dollars easily for one attack," bragged Salah Ali Samatar, a 32-year-old pirate who spoke by phone from Eyl, a pirate den on Somalia's desolate northern coast.





While their countrymen suffer through another political crisis and the looming threat of famine, pirates are splashing hundred-dollar bills like play money around the nowhere towns of northern Somalia.

Residents say that the pirates are building houses, buying flashy cell phones and air-conditioned SUVs, gifting friends and relatives with hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars and winning the attention of beautiful women, who seem to be flocking to pirate towns from miles around.

Shopkeepers charge the pirates a premium for food and khat — a narcotic leaf that Somali men chew religiously — but the buccaneers don't seem to mind.





arrrrrrhhhh...shiver me timbers...

blow me down..
Mon, 05/18/2009 - 9:01 AM Permalink
KITCH

do you own a chumbucket?
Mon, 05/18/2009 - 9:02 AM Permalink
barefootguy

Maybe they meant "drunken sailors" instead of "pirates". You know, the line the politicians are always using.
Mon, 05/18/2009 - 9:03 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

Isn't there another thread for AW's mock hunt around here somewhere?
Mon, 05/18/2009 - 9:09 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Being that I have a big interview tomorrow I thought I'd look for tips on interviewing. Maybe these interviewing tips can help you as well.
Mon, 05/18/2009 - 12:27 PM Permalink
me2

hmmm, you are a smart bear in general....

why not just ask them? hehe

soooo, what does a pirate spend like? are you saying we rob and pillage? make em squirm I tell yah.
Tue, 05/19/2009 - 1:01 PM Permalink
KITCH

my google isn't working good today....I think it has a "missing link"
Wed, 05/20/2009 - 9:45 AM Permalink
me2

I don't know where the post is but I know there are extra tickets left for the MONDAY, 2 pm - Memorial Day - Harriet Island - Jonathan Paddleford -FREE boat ride.

WHO IS GOING TO THIS? ANYONE WANT TO GO?

sounds like a nice free ride up and down the river- maybe have a few drinks - take the party somewhere afterwards? ideas?
Thu, 05/21/2009 - 11:39 AM Permalink
mucluck

I think I'll stick with my plans, hang out at the race track drink beer and watch the crashes...
Thu, 05/21/2009 - 11:55 AM Permalink
Clue Master

I feel bad doing this lke this but.....
Thu, 05/21/2009 - 12:02 PM Permalink
Clue Master

I've been waiting for this
Thu, 05/21/2009 - 12:03 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Big ass

Joe! :cool:

Thu, 05/21/2009 - 12:03 PM Permalink
Eags

Whoohoo!!! Congratulations on the nice Joe, CM!!!
Thu, 05/21/2009 - 12:52 PM Permalink