2015 - Snail Lake

Well secured - had me thinking of prisons/jail also.

Workhouse farm at BC

Old county jail near Kellogg, Upper Landing, and HI

Police substation at Highland

Old workhouse farm at Como.

http://www.spphs.com/history/2000/beginning2.php

http://www.district10comopark.org/uploads/Como+Site+History_2_2.pdf

Zephy, these two things are the only further I'm finding that isn't repeated somewhere else.

Why are you researching this?

It is that time of the hunt when we're all over the place.

I decided as we were traveling through Como and past the golf course, that if I found a golf club wedge, I wouldn't put it back.

:pbpt: :ooh: :goofy: :grin: :smile:

Thanks :smile:

I get bored and sidetracked easily. I wanted to get out today, but decided to stay home to ensure that I don't miss my conference call for school tonight...

I was just popping ideas around about the well secured and now and again stuff...

I got sidetracked and wanted to see where this guy was hung... it was in the basement of the old ramsey county jail...

So now you have me reading up on that guy...led to Ann Bilanksy and then I realized I needed to quit.

Maybe this will be a repeat of last year' hunt.

Mom,kid and I canvassed Phalen tonight. No aha moments, but I was spared watching Handy Manny, so score one for fresh air.

10 cars at beachouse, 6 at lake house. One guy ice fishing. Somebody has already dug the base of every tree in the area around the picnic pavilion. Awesome.

Heh - she was why I was readin up on him...

I just had a conference call for school - and looking at it again, he still seems to fit clue 2, as a Ann Bilansky type clue -

Now and Again - William (&) Williams

Fouled beyond Measure - His rope was measured too long, it stretched 8" his neck stretched 4 1/2 and his feet hit the ground - they had to pull him back up and lift his feet off the ground so he could suffocate for 14-15 minutes...

"Wedged" is our word - Johnny Keller was his lover/victim (and his mom too) and Keller park is wedged between both Keller golf course and Phalen golf course...

At clue 2, I can stretch anything...

Stretching is expected. It happens well beyond clue 2.

I always look forward to see what stretches were actually clue solving at the end of each hunt.

no kidding

That was my daughter and I :smile: we were all over there and by the monument :smile:

Yes you were :grin:

Really like this noodle Zeph....I don't think it's that much of a stretch given other Bilansky type clues.

:smile:

back in the mobster days it was right by como....kinda where the old pool use to be...( i think) but i do know by como..

That is where the work house was alright. I remember that sitting there when I was little. I remember how odd it looked when it had been taken down.

Yeah, the workhouse was up there were they would smash the rocks...

I was first wondering about the old jail where the gallows was in the basement. Where W.W. was executed. That is now the Ramsey Co. Courthouse/St. Paul City Hall.

Maybe you're onto something with the Keller connection.

Another half hour and we can start unscrambling another clue.

defeat arch and no no treasure nature's

an a he laughed sled spy jug he a trail by

away the did near on went such a high

over you're work the fail with kid head

Clue 3 scrambled.

defeat arch and no no treasure nature's

an a he laughed sled spy jug he a trail by

away the did near on went such a high

over you're work the fail with kid head

high/spy

trail/fail

trail/fail

sled/head

These are the rhymers. Any others?

spy

by

high

Phalen -- fail

Gateway trail -- arch

Could also mean Phalen creek with the arch tunnels at Swede

UGH! Too many for 4 lines.

went over his head

oops, over your head

There are also arched bridges at Phalen.

Jug head --- another wink to the failin Phalen hunt

Good catch Tater.

No 'his' in the scramble.

There is a trail that connects Phalen and Keller, right? It's been way too many years and I don't know if there is or not anymore.

a kid he did sled

such a jug head

over an arch

ugh!

So this is screaming Phalen. Seems early to be giving away the park with Jughead and Arch-ie.

There is the archery thing somewhere in Phalen - closer to the Maplewood side if I'm remembering correctly.

the only way I have gone from one to the other is either by crossing traffic in the road, or by walking on the ice under the frost ave bridge

archery is in Keller - north side of frost. its rear end abuts the golf course

That makes sense. Thanks Zephy.

One thing I've found over these many hunts, is that you remember things, but don't remember where or what park. It all gets scrambled.

I don't know why - but this is screaming Phalen/Keller to me right now which makes me automatically think red herring. :pbpt:

I agree. Phalen is scaring me because this is too early to name a park.

It was given in clue 3 in 2004

Since they used the green donut hunt/Archie comic issue for Phalen, maybe there is a different Archie comic issue that will point us somewhere else?

yes, this could be no other White Christmas.... Keller is huge

it's not just the little area between round lake and the woods across frost...

They opened that newly remodeled clubhouse at Keller recently.

Yes they did. That is a huge park so it makes sense, but it is early.

Any area off the top of anyone's head that is wedge shaped?

An arch he did spy (with the treasure near by) --

Nature's work high over a trail

"You're such a jug head," laughed the kid on a sled

Away he went -- no defeat and no fail

from Tom on FB

An arch he did spy (with the treasure nearby) -

NatureÂ’s work high over a trail.

“You’re such a jug head,” laughed the kid on the sled,

Away he went no defeat and no fail.

Thanks for the clue!

the bridge from the creek or whatever it is between phalen lake and keller lake (under frost ave) is like 2 arches, if I remember correctly

So does no fail mean no Phalen? :wink:

I would think so