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2015 - Snail Lake

Submitted by Clue Master on
2015 Treasure Hunt Discussion Thread



 

zephyrus

it means you cant lose!
Mon, 01/19/2015 - 9:17 PM Permalink
Terry

Maybe it's Keller not Phalen.

Maybe it's BC.
Mon, 01/19/2015 - 9:18 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Maybe it's not hidden yet :pbpt:
Mon, 01/19/2015 - 9:20 PM Permalink
Terry

Z - that would be cheating. :pbpt: :pbpt: :pbpt: :pbpt:
Mon, 01/19/2015 - 9:23 PM Permalink
Terry

So many trails and places where nature's work is high over.

It could e a natural arch from trees or such.

With the sled reference, I would think a sledding hill nearby.
Mon, 01/19/2015 - 9:25 PM Permalink
zephyrus

me too - and I also think the arch is natural

but what do I know, I'm only a boy...
Mon, 01/19/2015 - 9:27 PM Permalink
Terry

Some of this could fit Highland. There are good sledding and the arch over Montreal,

But it is only in one box...if clue 1 was about in the county AND the city.
Mon, 01/19/2015 - 9:29 PM Permalink
Terry

And Como too.

I can talk my way out of any park. Comes from too many times being in the right park in the wrong year.
Mon, 01/19/2015 - 9:31 PM Permalink
Terry

BC we know has some sledding hills.

Because I believe the in and out of the box refers to county and city limits, This has to be Phalen/Keller or BC.
Mon, 01/19/2015 - 9:38 PM Permalink
New Daddy

No fail en? :sheepish:
Mon, 01/19/2015 - 9:39 PM Permalink
zephyrus

I am also getting no Phalen and no BC, no defeat and no fail...
Mon, 01/19/2015 - 9:41 PM Permalink
Aquarius Rex

That was my thought. ...I remember that wedge when it was found. There is an area of Mpls actually called "the Wedge"
Mon, 01/19/2015 - 9:46 PM Permalink
Terry

One last thought...

The first two lines talk of an arch near the treasure that is over a trail and is natural.

Rainbow.

I'm out of here for tonight. I think I'll go dream of rainbows.
Mon, 01/19/2015 - 9:57 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Hmmm...
Mon, 01/19/2015 - 9:58 PM Permalink
MrsMGhunter

There were kids sledding yesterday by the club house
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 4:05 AM Permalink
New Daddy

Good noodle.
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 4:18 AM Permalink
Andrea

I remember there being a trail, but it has been a few years since I have been out that way too. Will try and hit it today and report back.
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 4:44 AM Permalink
New Daddy

Away he went no defeat no fail.

Sounds like something on a tombstone or obituary.
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 4:48 AM Permalink
New Daddy

I am rereading clues ignoring the obvious fail en reference.

Now and then the plans of men

Are fouled beyond measure.

A recurring catastrophe like the flooding of lilydale, or upper landing or crosby pigs eye Bruce vento...
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 5:04 AM Permalink
Andrea

Gateway= an opening or structure framing an opening, such as an ARCH, that may be shut by a gate.

Gateway trail crosses between Keller and Phalen.
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 5:07 AM Permalink
New Daddy

And passes on a nice arch bridge over a trail.
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 5:10 AM Permalink
New Daddy

Rest assured - any motels or matress stores by public land guaranteeing a good night's sleep?
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 5:16 AM Permalink
New Daddy

Word play with wedged

1st and 2nd parts of word spelled the same as in como.
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 5:18 AM Permalink
ares

and its just north of where we all cried foul 11 years ago.
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 6:48 AM Permalink
queenmalley

Nice
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 7:00 AM Permalink
Brassmonkey

Not Phalen or BC
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 7:13 AM Permalink
Brassmonkey

This clue is written as if someone is narrating it, very strange.

Not usual at all.
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 7:14 AM Permalink
Andrea

I agree. That is the second part of today's clue. But to me the first part is more about where it IS
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 7:22 AM Permalink
kevin

no defeat no fail

da agony of da feet 2011 BC i read as no BC

no fail no Phalen
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 7:23 AM Permalink
queenmalley

Any spy-type stores /services near a park?
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 7:23 AM Permalink
Smore

The high bridge comes to mind as an arch, but it's obviously not a natural one. I drove around there yesterday, up Shepard Road and then back down the Lillydale/Harriet Island side. I still like Lillydale, although there were no kids on sleds.
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 7:58 AM Permalink
RudeRat

In the discussions around the "Are fouled beyond measure" clue, I haven't seen this use of the word discussed. Grabbed this from a Harriet Island brochure: “But as sewage fouled the river, people turned away and the park languished into disuse.”
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 9:04 AM Permalink
Neecie

Some thoughts about the last 2 clues...

..plans of men can get fouled - could refer to the 2007 hunt where the medallion was ..found in 3 clues and they quickly needed to create a 2nd hunt.

..I think Ragsdale was the clue writer then.

..That first medallion was in Hidden Falls, could it be there again?

..Are there caves on that hillside at HF? That would be the natures work (arches) over the trail

..no real sledding hill but the entrance from River Rd is usually blocked in the winter and kids could sled down the drive.

..the medallion could be "wedged" between Crosby and HF.

These thought make sense to someone with a sinus infection! :eek:
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 9:13 AM Permalink
Smore

Perhaps that quote originated from a story I heard that at one time. There was a public bath off Harriett Island for the cities poor. If I remember correctly, it was shut down in the early 1930's. I really don't remember where I heard it, though.
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 9:57 AM Permalink
Aquarius Rex

Testing if my renewal to post has kicked in. This is a test, and only a test :coolfrown:
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 10:02 AM Permalink
zephyrus

there has been a lot of plans for that old building at Bruce Vento, by the parking lot - but they are deciding to tear it down... I was a student of someone in a group that wanted to use it as an Ojibwe Immersion School (one of the groups that wanted to use it...)
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 10:32 AM Permalink
zephyrus

ANd the natural thing aqbove the arch - "frost" avenue
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 10:34 AM Permalink
kevin

^^like
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 10:36 AM Permalink
kevin

archery range is right near where frost and 61 meet. the golfview portion of keller park has a maplewood address.

gateway trail is runs along frost at a lower elevation

another interesting feature in that area is the keller lake dam
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 10:43 AM Permalink
Aquarius Rex

To expand on that use, the same area was used/was a park in the winter ...the kid on the sled is not necessarily on a hill. Think sleigh.
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 10:44 AM Permalink
Tatergirl

Very different hunt this year... very little snow and nice temps. With St. Paul schools being off this Friday - I hope it's not found early like BC 2006.
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 10:46 AM Permalink
Gilby

Hello all, glad to be back and ready to dig!

"An arch he did spy (with the treasure nearby) -

NatureÂ’s work high over a trail. "

I know a lot of people are inferring this to be a natural arch, but I see this as two separate clues. I think the arch is more likely a long distance observance from where the puck is hidden.

The "Nature's work" is more of a reference to the exact park.

For example, Arch of High Bridge visible from many possible park locations and limiting to those only, and then the Nature's work puts you in the exact one of them.

It's fun to be noodling again! Hope to see you all out there soon. Good luck to you all!
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 10:54 AM Permalink
Aquarius Rex

Beyond belief, isn't it :smile: I thought it was a mirage when I first saw it.
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 10:55 AM Permalink
Tatergirl

I agree Gilby.... an arch did he spy -- like it's far away but seen from the treasure's location.

Nature's work high over a trail -- reminds me of the nature gobbles up man's silly frills from the Cherokee hunt - meaning the tree growing around the wire fence. Some natural feature that will make sense once we see it.
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 11:04 AM Permalink
zephyrus

Coming defeat suggests failin' - the aural equivalent of Phalen.



2004 - Clue 6 Phalen

Tue, 01/20/2015 - 11:04 AM Permalink
Smore

SCHWEET!!
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 11:52 AM Permalink
MrsMGhunter

What if "natures work" (I know this might be reaching) is actually referrencing local company "Natureworks".
http://www.natureworksllc.com/Product-and-Applications

They create biopolymer which is seen in those products listed in that website. Could it be in a "mold" or in one of their products. Are closet rod holders made from it? lol

So its saying its in one of their products high over a trail? Nestled in a tree that is still reachable or a bush?

OK, I'm stretching it I know.
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 12:04 PM Permalink
zephyrus

all of Keller is Maplewood - the 04 Phalen puck was in Maplewood, technically
Tue, 01/20/2015 - 12:54 PM Permalink