Thanks for the info ATH. Heck I even like those 30 years ago details. Boy the older ya get the cooler these types of thing become. Especially when you remember them 1st hand.
Hey Scribe, it's been a long time. 3 yrs. How are you doing. I've heard bits and pieces from you other half. Once Bethany gets off her back we'll have to have you guys over to our new abode. Even though we are on the other side of the river.
I'm getting so tired of this it has been going on for over 5 months now and it just kepps getting put on the back burner everytime. Hopefully I can find a judge that sees this as being that the previous owners lied to us about the problems. Hell they didn't even fully fix the items in the purchase agreement.
WoW- we have exposed wires but thats our own house projects- I got a good one...the previous owners never told us our house had a FIRE! we found out when remodeling our livingroom! the timber up in the rafters were all burnt!
It sounds like "Life" just likes to pick on you :) I can't imagine moving so much.
I was hoping to do some snow blowing for some extra income. Bought a trailer. Guess everyone knows how that is going.
Brought home an ad, from the cabin, for stuffing envelopes for Bethany to do while she is on bed rest. That got filed w/ the recycling. Wont be back up there for another 2 weeks.
If $hit is going to happen look for me 'cause it's probably happening to me.
William Seward accepts President-elect Abraham Lincoln's invitation to become Secretary of State. Seward became one of the most important members of the cabinet and engineered the purchase of Alaska after the Civil War.
A native of New York, Seward taught school in the South before returning to New York and entering politics. He became governor in 1838 and began to articulate strong anti-slavery views. Seward entered the U.S. Senate in 1849 and burst onto the national scene during the debates surrounding the Compromise of 1850. He boldly proclaimed that slavery was doomed by a "higher law than the Constitution, the law of God." This became a catch phrase for abolitionists and Seward became known as a radical, belying his pragmatic tendencies.
Seward joined the Republican Party in the 1850s and he appeared to be the leading candidate for president in 1860. The party went with Lincoln, feeling that he would draw more votes in the Midwest and border regions. Seward was initially reluctant to accept the position of Secretary of State--he still saw himself as the natural leader of the party and was reluctant to take a back seat to Lincoln. In fact, Seward underestimated Lincoln's political acumen. His relationship with Lincoln was not particularly close, but they worked well together during the war.
Seward became one of the moderate voices in the Lincoln cabinet. His careful politicking helped to counter the public perception that the administration was dominated by radicals. Although he supported the end of slavery, Seward downplayed the effects of emancipation to gain support from Democrats and conservative Republicans during the presidential campaign of 1864.
The assassination that killed Lincoln nearly resulted in Seward's death as well. Lewis Powell, an accomplice to John Wilkes Booth, stabbed Seward as he lay in bed recovering from a carriage accident. Seward survived, and after a summer convalescing, returned to the State Department. His final achievement came with the purchase of Alaska from the Russians in 1867. Although he considered it one of his greatest accomplishments, critics dubbed the territory "Mr. Seward's Ice Box." History would show that Seward's belief in the value of Alaska was astute.
1861 Florida secedes
Florida becomes the third state to secede from the Union when a state convention votes 62 to 7 in favor of the measure. The next day Alabama seceded.
1860 House Committee of Thirty Three submits proposed amendment
Unable to agree on anything else, the Committee of Thirty Three submits a proposed constitutional amendment protecting slavery in all areas where it already existed. The proposed measure was not enough to stem the tide of seceding states.
After the election of Republican Abraham Lincoln as president in November 1860, the states of the south began to talk of secession. The Republican Party was committed to restricting slavery in the western territories, and southerners feared an eventual campaign to eradicate the institution entirely from the country. As the new administration prepared to take over, attempts were made by many politicians in Washington to alleviate southern fears. The House of Representatives appointed the Committee of Thirty Three, one from each state, to investigate avenues of compromise that would keep the South from seceding.
Most of the compromises involved the Republicans forfeiting their plan to keep slavery out of the western territories. This was, however, the entire reason for the existence of the party. As a result, many northern Congressmen would not agree to any such move. Finally, on January 14, committee chair Thomas Corwin of Ohio submitted a plan calling for an amendment to protect slavery, enforce the fugitive slave laws, and repeal state personal liberty laws. In the 1850s, the South was increasingly concerned with slaves escaping to the North; the personal liberty laws made it difficult to get slaves back, and this was a motivating factor behind secession.
South Carolina, Florida, Mississippi, and Alabama had already seceded by the time Corwin made his proposal. The plan died, and the nation continued on the road to war.
prime mover of the Montgomery bus boycott, keynote speaker at the March on Washington, youngest Nobel Peace Prize laureate. But in retrospect, single events are less important than the fact that King, and his policy of nonviolent protest, was the dominant force in the civil rights movement during its decade of greatest achievement, from 1957 to 1968.
Riots, shootings at Jackson State and Kent State, the student riots on literally every major university in the Nation, the Vietnam Veterans against The War and untold millions of protesters that marched the streets of every major city in the U.S., FORCED LBJ OUT of the race in 68, and FORCED Nixon to pledge an end to the war, "With Honor" in 1968, when he ran for office. And the war lasted until when? The draft continued until when?
Now get a damn history book, and read all about it. You idiot loser. You make morons proud, fold.
fold, you are really a hopeless case. the protests went on for years. they had little effect on US policy over that period of time. It took years and of failure in Vietnam to end the war. the protesters impact on ending the war was minimal, at best.
This day in history roughly marks the day when all of us in the C.C. woke up and realized that none of us got the medallion...again. Why? Because every year at McGovern's before the hunt starts, someone stands up and curses us by saying "This is our year!". This practice must end. Take care, all.
I didn't stand up and say this is our year- I toasted to anyone in that room to find it- but I have bad luck in general so just plug your ears next time ;)
Young King Arthur was ambushed and imprisoned by the monarch of a neighboring kingdom. The monarch could have killed him, but was moved by Arthur's youth and ideals. So the monarch offered him freedom, as long as he could answer a very difficult question.
Arthur would have a year to figure out the answer; if, after a year, he still had no answer, he would be put to death....
The question: What do women really want?
Such a question would perplex even the most knowledgeable man, and, to young Arthur, it seemed an impossible query. But, since it was better than death, he accepted the monarch's proposition to have an answer by year's end.
He returned to his kingdom and began to poll everybody: the princess, the prostitutes, the priests, the wise men, and the court jester. He spoke with everyone, but no one could give him a satisfactory answer.
Many people advised him to consult the old witch. Only she would know the answer. The price would be high; the witch was famous throughout the kingdom for the exorbitant prices she charged.
The last day of the year arrived and Arthur had no alternative but to talk to the witch. She agreed to answer the question, but he'd have to accept her price first:
The old witch wanted to marry him. Young Arthur was horrified. She was hunchbacked and hideous, had only one tooth, smelled like sewage, and made obscene noises. He had never encountered such a repugnant creature.
Finally, having no real choice, he agreed. Their wedding was proclaimed, and the witch answered Arthur's question thus.
What a woman really wants is to be in charge of her own life.
Everyone instantly knew that the witch had uttered a great truth and that Arthur's life would be spared. And so it was. The neighboring monarch granted Arthur total freedom.
What a wedding Arthur and the witch had! Arthur was torn between relief and anguish. He was proper as always, gentle, and courteous. The old witch put her worst manners on display, and generally made everyone very uncomfortable. The hour approached. Arthur, steeling himself for a horrific experience, entered the bedroom. But what a sight awaited him!
The most beautiful woman he'd ever seen lay before him! The astounded Arthur asked what had happened. The beauty replied that since he had been so kind to her when she'd appeared as a witch, she would henceforth be her horrible, deformed self half the time, and the other half she would be her beautiful maiden self. Which would he want her to be during the day, and which during the night?
What a cruel question! Arthur pondered his predicament. During the day, a beautiful woman to show off to his friends, but at night, in the privacy of his home, an old witch? Or would he prefer having by day a hideous witch, but by night a beautiful woman with whom to enjoy many intimate moments? What would you do? What Arthur chose follows below......but don't read until you've made your own choice.......
Noble Arthur replied that he would let her choose for herself.
Upon hearing this, she announced that she would be beautiful all the time, because he had respected her enough to let her be in charge of her own life.
What is the moral of this story?
The moral is:
If your woman doesn't get her own way, things are going to get ugly!
Zachary Taylor, the 12th president of the United States, dies suddenly from an attack of cholera morbus. He was succeeded by Millard Fillmore.
Raised in Kentucky with little formal schooling, Zachary Taylor received a U.S. Army commission in 1808. He became a captain in 1810 and was promoted to major during the War of 1812 in recognition of his defense of Fort Harrison against attack by Shawnee chief Tecumseh. In 1832, he became a colonel and served in the Black Hawk War and in the campaigns against the Seminole Indians in Florida, winning the nickname of "Old Rough and Ready" for his informal attire and indifference to physical adversity.
Sent to the Southwest to command the U.S. Army at the Texas border, Taylor crossed the Rio Grande with the outbreak of the Mexican-American War in 1846. In May, Taylor defeated the Mexicans at the battles of Palo Alto and Resaca de la Palma, and in September he captured the city of Monterrey. In February 1847, he achieved his crowning military victory at the Battle of Buena Vista, where his force triumphed despite being outnumbered three to one. This victory firmly established Taylor as a popular hero, and in 1848, despite his lack of a clear political platform, he was nominated the Whig presidential candidate.
Elected in November, Taylor soon fell under the influence of William H. Seward, a powerful Whig senator, and in 1849 he supported the Wilmot Proviso, which would exclude slavery from all the territory acquired as a result of the Mexican War. His inflexible responses to Southern criticisms of this policy aggravated the nation's North-South conflict and revealed his political inexperience. Matters were at a stalemate when he died suddenly on July 9, 1850.
Cool stuff, ATH.
3. Diarrhea
Wow! I didn't know that was such a problem.
Thanks for the info ATH. Heck I even like those 30 years ago details. Boy the older ya get the cooler these types of thing become. Especially when you remember them 1st hand.
Thanks ATH- fun to learn
People around the world still die in large numbers from diarrhea. I think lot of it is caused by contact with polluted water.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was still among the top 5 or 10.
someone could start a thread about it!
Why bother, it would just run on and on anyway :-]
This day in history...Me2 gets the one thousandth post in the whole HISTORY thread :)
This day in history...Me2 gets the palinaJOE... one thousandth and one post in the whole HISTORY thread :)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHEM!!
Happy Birthday Chem
Hey Scribe, it's been a long time. 3 yrs. How are you doing. I've heard bits and pieces from you other half. Once Bethany gets off her back we'll have to have you guys over to our new abode. Even though we are on the other side of the river.
Even though we are on the other side of the river.
traitor :)
happy birthday anyway.
nope. i even avoided thatside when i went to the u, too :)
i am just playing with ya. i give me2 crap all the time too, because even though she lives in st. paul, she's on thatside of the river too.
Seriously Chem, that would be great! Give us a call or e-mail so we can make plans. You,Bethany and the kids are honorary St.Paulites!:)
:: sticks tongue out at scribe :) ::
:: wipes bottom of shoes with Ares tongue::
:: collects shoe-loogie. expunges it in scribe's general direction. watches it splatter ::
:: takes spurted shoe loogie and adds it to Ares can of Coke while he aint lookin::
well, that wouldn't be the first time that's happened....
I keep tellin you to keep an eye on that can....
eeeeeeeeeeeew!
and Chem-most men would love their wife to be on her back-- I know in your case it is a little different but it sounded interesting ;)
I think I recall hearing you lived over here...where abouts over here are you?
I'm getting so tired of this it has been going on for over 5 months now and it just kepps getting put on the back burner everytime. Hopefully I can find a judge that sees this as being that the previous owners lied to us about the problems. Hell they didn't even fully fix the items in the purchase agreement.
WoW- we have exposed wires but thats our own house projects- I got a good one...the previous owners never told us our house had a FIRE! we found out when remodeling our livingroom! the timber up in the rafters were all burnt!
It sounds like "Life" just likes to pick on you :)
I can't imagine moving so much.
I thought of you when I read this...it seams to be perfect for Me2 :)
If everything seems to be going well,
you have obviously overlooked something.
I was hoping to do some snow blowing for some extra income. Bought a trailer. Guess everyone knows how that is going.
Brought home an ad, from the cabin, for stuffing envelopes for Bethany to do while she is on bed rest. That got filed w/ the recycling. Wont be back up there for another 2 weeks.
If $hit is going to happen look for me 'cause it's probably happening to me.
On January 10:
1861 William Seward named Secretary of State
William Seward accepts President-elect Abraham Lincoln's invitation to become Secretary of State. Seward became one of the most important members of the cabinet and engineered the purchase of Alaska after the Civil War.
A native of New York, Seward taught school in the South before returning to New York and entering politics. He became governor in 1838 and began to articulate strong anti-slavery views. Seward entered the U.S. Senate in 1849 and burst onto the national scene during the debates surrounding the Compromise of 1850. He boldly proclaimed that slavery was doomed by a "higher law than the Constitution, the law of God." This became a catch phrase for abolitionists and Seward became known as a radical, belying his pragmatic tendencies.
Seward joined the Republican Party in the 1850s and he appeared to be the leading candidate for president in 1860. The party went with Lincoln, feeling that he would draw more votes in the Midwest and border regions. Seward was initially reluctant to accept the position of Secretary of State--he still saw himself as the natural leader of the party and was reluctant to take a back seat to Lincoln. In fact, Seward underestimated Lincoln's political acumen. His relationship with Lincoln was not particularly close, but they worked well together during the war.
Seward became one of the moderate voices in the Lincoln cabinet. His careful politicking helped to counter the public perception that the administration was dominated by radicals. Although he supported the end of slavery, Seward downplayed the effects of emancipation to gain support from Democrats and conservative Republicans during the presidential campaign of 1864.
The assassination that killed Lincoln nearly resulted in Seward's death as well. Lewis Powell, an accomplice to John Wilkes Booth, stabbed Seward as he lay in bed recovering from a carriage accident. Seward survived, and after a summer convalescing, returned to the State Department. His final achievement came with the purchase of Alaska from the Russians in 1867. Although he considered it one of his greatest accomplishments, critics dubbed the territory "Mr. Seward's Ice Box." History would show that Seward's belief in the value of Alaska was astute.
1861 Florida secedes
Florida becomes the third state to secede from the Union when a state convention votes 62 to 7 in favor of the measure. The next day Alabama seceded.
1860 House Committee of Thirty Three submits proposed amendment
Unable to agree on anything else, the Committee of Thirty Three submits a proposed constitutional amendment protecting slavery in all areas where it already existed. The proposed measure was not enough to stem the tide of seceding states.
After the election of Republican Abraham Lincoln as president in November 1860, the states of the south began to talk of secession. The Republican Party was committed to restricting slavery in the western territories, and southerners feared an eventual campaign to eradicate the institution entirely from the country. As the new administration prepared to take over, attempts were made by many politicians in Washington to alleviate southern fears. The House of Representatives appointed the Committee of Thirty Three, one from each state, to investigate avenues of compromise that would keep the South from seceding.
Most of the compromises involved the Republicans forfeiting their plan to keep slavery out of the western territories. This was, however, the entire reason for the existence of the party. As a result, many northern Congressmen would not agree to any such move. Finally, on January 14, committee chair Thomas Corwin of Ohio submitted a plan calling for an amendment to protect slavery, enforce the fugitive slave laws, and repeal state personal liberty laws. In the 1850s, the South was increasingly concerned with slaves escaping to the North; the personal liberty laws made it difficult to get slaves back, and this was a motivating factor behind secession.
South Carolina, Florida, Mississippi, and Alabama had already seceded by the time Corwin made his proposal. The plan died, and the nation continued on the road to war.
prime mover of the Montgomery bus boycott, keynote speaker at the March on Washington, youngest Nobel Peace Prize laureate. But in retrospect, single events are less important than the fact that King, and his policy of nonviolent protest, was the dominant force in the civil rights movement during its decade of greatest achievement, from 1957 to 1968.
You really think protestors had much to do with ending the Vietnam war?
I think the fact that we were losing had more to do with it.
I think not trying to win had more to do with it. That and the fact the carnage was shown on the nightly news.
the protests didn't stop the war, fold. That is ridiculous. The protests went on for several years yet the war continued.
Riots, shootings at Jackson State and Kent State, the student riots on literally every major university in the Nation, the Vietnam Veterans against The War and untold millions of protesters that marched the streets of every major city in the U.S., FORCED LBJ OUT of the race in 68, and FORCED Nixon to pledge an end to the war, "With Honor" in 1968, when he ran for office. And the war lasted until when? The draft continued until when?
Now get a damn history book, and read all about it. You idiot loser. You make morons proud, fold.
fold, you are really a hopeless case. the protests went on for years. they had little effect on US policy over that period of time. It took years and of failure in Vietnam to end the war. the protesters impact on ending the war was minimal, at best.
the fact remains that the protests went on for years and the war went on for years.
I am certain that you have been slamming your head on many solid objects because that would explain a lot.
This day in history roughly marks the day when all of us in the C.C. woke up and realized that none of us got the medallion...again. Why? Because every year at McGovern's before the hunt starts, someone stands up and curses us by saying "This is our year!". This practice must end. Take care, all.
Shovel Massar....We always win! We have a great time every year!
I didn't stand up and say this is our year- I toasted to anyone in that room to find it- but I have bad luck in general so just plug your ears next time ;)
10 years ago today the WTC was bombed the first time.
Was it bombed more than once?
Well, no. Not unless you count planes flying into it as being bombed.
Now that you mention it, I feel like getting bombed. Thanks, that's the excuse that I was looking for.
This is just plain truth in history...
A wise lesson for all men to learn
Young King Arthur was ambushed and imprisoned by the monarch of a neighboring kingdom. The monarch could have killed him, but was moved by Arthur's youth and ideals. So the monarch offered him freedom, as long as he could answer a very difficult question.
Arthur would have a year to figure out the answer; if, after a year, he still had no answer, he would be put to death....
The question: What do women really want?
Such a question would perplex even the most knowledgeable man, and, to young Arthur, it seemed an impossible query. But, since it was better than death, he accepted the monarch's proposition to have an answer by year's end.
He returned to his kingdom and began to poll everybody: the princess,
the prostitutes, the priests, the wise men, and the court jester.
He spoke with everyone, but no one could give him a satisfactory answer.
Many people advised him to consult the old witch. Only she would know the answer. The price would be high; the witch was famous throughout the kingdom for the exorbitant prices she charged.
The last day of the year arrived and Arthur had no alternative but to talk to the witch. She agreed to answer the question, but he'd have to accept her price first:
The old witch wanted to marry him. Young Arthur was horrified. She was hunchbacked and hideous, had only one tooth, smelled like sewage, and made obscene noises. He had never encountered such a repugnant creature.
Finally, having no real choice, he agreed. Their wedding was proclaimed, and the witch answered Arthur's question thus.
What a woman really wants is to be in charge of her own life.
Everyone instantly knew that the witch had uttered a great truth and
that Arthur's life would be spared. And so it was. The neighboring monarch granted Arthur total freedom.
What a wedding Arthur and the witch had! Arthur was torn between
relief and anguish. He was proper as always, gentle, and courteous.
The old witch put her worst manners on display, and generally made
everyone very uncomfortable. The hour approached. Arthur, steeling himself for a horrific experience, entered the bedroom.
But what a sight awaited him!
The most beautiful woman he'd ever seen lay before him! The astounded Arthur asked what had happened. The beauty replied that since he had
been so kind to her when she'd appeared as a witch, she would
henceforth be her horrible, deformed self half the time, and the
other half she would be her beautiful maiden self. Which would he want
her to be during the day, and which during the night?
What a cruel question! Arthur pondered his predicament. During the day, a beautiful woman to show off to his friends, but at night, in the privacy of his home, an old witch? Or would he prefer having by day a hideous witch, but by night a beautiful woman with whom to
enjoy many intimate moments? What would you do? What Arthur chose follows below......but don't read until you've made your own choice.......
Noble Arthur replied that he would let her choose for herself.
Upon hearing this, she announced that she would be beautiful all the time, because he had respected her enough to let her be in charge of her own life.
What is the moral of this story?
The moral is:
If your woman doesn't get her own way, things are going to get ugly!
The moral is:
If your woman doesn't get her own way, things are going to get ugly!
translation: its good to be well-trained.
Zachary Taylor, the 12th president of the United States, dies suddenly from an attack of cholera morbus. He was succeeded by Millard Fillmore.
Raised in Kentucky with little formal schooling, Zachary Taylor received a U.S. Army commission in 1808. He became a captain in 1810 and was promoted to major during the War of 1812 in recognition of his defense of Fort Harrison against attack by Shawnee chief Tecumseh. In 1832, he became a colonel and served in the Black Hawk War and in the campaigns against the Seminole Indians in Florida, winning the nickname of "Old Rough and Ready" for his informal attire and indifference to physical adversity.
Sent to the Southwest to command the U.S. Army at the Texas border, Taylor crossed the Rio Grande with the outbreak of the Mexican-American War in 1846. In May, Taylor defeated the Mexicans at the battles of Palo Alto and Resaca de la Palma, and in September he captured the city of Monterrey. In February 1847, he achieved his crowning military victory at the Battle of Buena Vista, where his force triumphed despite being outnumbered three to one. This victory firmly established Taylor as a popular hero, and in 1848, despite his lack of a clear political platform, he was nominated the Whig presidential candidate.
Elected in November, Taylor soon fell under the influence of William H. Seward, a powerful Whig senator, and in 1849 he supported the Wilmot Proviso, which would exclude slavery from all the territory acquired as a result of the Mexican War. His inflexible responses to Southern criticisms of this policy aggravated the nation's North-South conflict and revealed his political inexperience. Matters were at a stalemate when he died suddenly on July 9, 1850.