George W. is a real man—a carnivorous, meat and potatoes man, who isn’t so into the trivial nuances and nomenclature of a culture populated by those whose self-identity is nothing more than the wimpy, granola, hippyish diet they keep.
"She makes comments about self-identity equating what they eat, yet she does the same thing herself with the "Meat & Potatoes" comment. "
I didn't see it that way. What I think she was trying to say is that to Bush, diet isn't a point of issue (I guess we are to assume that, like she does). But with vegans, diet often IS a way they personally identify themselves. Many take it to the point of advocacy.
I'm am animal advocate, the guy in my picture is adopted from the Humane Society, but I have a hard time taking PEAT seriously. They go waaay over board.
I wonder when some group will start saying we shouldn't eat vegetables because they are living plants and suffer pain when they are harvested?
Animal rights seems to be British in origin. I think the head of PETA is a Brit. She was on television justifying that dispicable billboard effort they launched against Rudy Guliani. She was on Crossfire, and people on both the liberal and conservative side used her as a rhetorical punching bag. She was like one of those inflatable clowns or a Whack-a-mole. Every time she bounced up, one of the two would pop her again. It was pretty funny.
The people who brought us Common Law have been reduced to efforts like that.
Washington, DC -- President Bush will not name pro-abortion AIDS researcher Anthony Fauci as the director of the National Institutes of Health, according to an unidentified official in the administration. Instead, President Bush is "close" to naming an unidentified alternate candidate.
HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson has been "pushing" for Fauci -- who has been the director of NIH's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984 -- to be named NIH director since the summer. However, administration officials are concerned with Fauci's silence on "whether he supports abortion."
Fauci in the past has called research using tissue from aborted children "scientifically significant."
Coalitions of pro-life advocates have closely monitored candidates for NIH director and were concerned that someone would be appointed who did not share their views on the life issue, said Deal Hudson, an outside White House adviser on Catholic issues who is editor of Crisis Magazine.
"The trouble all along was finding someone who had the adequate research credentials along with the kind of [pro-life] values that President Bush wants to affirm," Hudson said.
Scientists don't welcome "those who affirm life in an earnest way," he contended, making it hard to find someone with the scientific credentials who also opposes abortion and has pro-life stances on related issues.
Ken Connor, president of the Family Research Council, referred to a 1988 article in which Fauci spoke favorably about AIDS research using human fetal tissue in explaining why he opposes him. "This is a fellow who may put research first and ethics second," he said.
The administration could fill the position "as early as this month."
Because we were put here to have dominion over all the lands and animals. I forget the exact bible verse, but it goes something like that. This is my personnal belief, take it for what you will. Â Â
It sounds more like you got it from the Bible, than it being your personal belief. Did you come to believe it, and then just found out the Bible agrees, or did you first learn that opinion from the Bible?
You were close enough to the exact quote. "Dominion" means "control or rule; sovereignty". To have dominion over something basically means to govern it. Our government controls and rules us, it is sovereign over us-- does this mean we don't have rights? Does it mean that the government can kill us without regard to morality?
I don't get my opinions from the Bible, but you seem to believe it, so how about this:
"And to every beast of the earth, and every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food."
That's "God" talking, in case you didn't recognize his voice. It seems to me that what he's saying is that every living thing has a right to "every green plant for food." He also seems to be implying something, something about how there's this distinct group of beings, "everything that has the breath of life," and how that group of beings has been bestowed with certain rights by God.
It sounds to me like man's "dominion" over animals comes with rules. A sort of constitution for the government, or dominion, of the beasts of the world. All of which would lead me to believe that living things have rights (if I believed the Bible was the word of God, and that God as depicted in Christianity was real).
Government's dominion over man involves the job of enforcing and protecting man's rights. Why would man's dominion over all other living things be any different?
Sorry. It won't happen.
Parents only serve a "ritualistic" function when it comes to deciding what to do with their kids. That was the position of Robert H. Chanin, the lawyer who tried to convince the Supreme Court Wednesday to kill Cleveland's school choice program.
George W. is a real man—a carnivorous, meat and potatoes man, who isn’t so into the trivial nuances and nomenclature of a culture populated by those whose self-identity is nothing more than the wimpy, granola, hippyish diet they keep.
From the way that column reads, Ms. Schlussel must
think George W. Bush is kind of hot.
Guess she likes the father-figure type. Walker, Texas Ranger,
tall in the saddle type.
How Freudian.
George W. is a real man—a carnivorous, meat and potatoes man, who isn’t so into the trivial nuances and nomenclature of a culture populated by those whose self-identity is nothing more than the wimpy, granola, hippyish diet they keep.
How stupid.
Did you read the entire article, JT?
Did you read the entire article, JT?
Not word for word but what I got is that Bush is a bit behind the times in what's happening in this here world of ours.
Who cares, "Sex and the City" sucks.
Why do you think it's stupid, THX?
It's a stupid comment.
She makes comments about self-identity equating what they eat, yet she does the same thing herself with the "Meat & Potatoes" comment.
It was simply dumb.
You know, she sure knew a lot about "Sex and the City".
Strangely.
It's like she's saying, "oh, that show is terrible, it's awful,
it's disgusting."
Oh, it's on.
Excuse me.
"She makes comments about self-identity equating what they eat, yet she does
the same thing herself with the "Meat & Potatoes" comment. "
I didn't see it that way. What I think she was trying to say is that to Bush, diet
isn't a point of issue (I guess we are to assume that, like she does). But with
vegans, diet often IS a way they personally identify themselves. Many take it to
the point of advocacy.
Yeah, and they probably belong to PETA too.
Just like any group they take things too far sometimes.
I think "too far" is advocating that people stop eating beef and chicken.
Many people would consider banning abortion, school prayer, detainment without due process........."too far".
Abortion is "too far." Banning school prayer is "too far." As for due process remember they ain't citizens they are the enemy.
I'll take the joe.
Sigh
"PETA isn't all bad."
But they're completely annoying.
And I don't think they are "just like any group." Their record of excess places
them in a class by themselves.
Annoying isn't always bad. They may be excessive but they get noticed.
Yes, but they usually get noticed because of the stupidity of their causes.
Yes, but they usually get noticed because of the stupidity of their causes.
Yeah, so do a lot of other groups.
I'm not a die hard PETA fan here. I'm just saying they ain't all bad. I agree with animal rights to some extent.
Just as I don't agree with all anti abortion groups, at the base of it I can agree that abortion is wrong.
I agree with you on both counts. The problem is that excess zeal hurts their causes rather than helps.
"I'm not a die hard PETA fan here. I'm just saying they ain't all bad. I agree with
animal rights to some extent. "
Courageous stand, there. You really went out on a limb.
::rolls eyes:::
Courageous stand, there. You really went out on a limb.
There's nothing to go out on a limb for.
PETA's not all bad, what more can I say?
"PETA's not all bad, "
I don't think anyone here said they were bad in any way.
They're annoying dorks who are impossible to take
seriously.
Glad you straightened that out for me, Rick.
::Sigh::
EXACTLY!!!!
Yes, they are, but animals do need advocates.
Beef! It's what's for dinner.
I'm am animal advocate, the guy in my picture is adopted from the Humane Society, but I have a hard time taking PEAT seriously. They go waaay over board.
I wonder when some group will start saying we shouldn't eat vegetables because they are living plants and suffer pain when they are harvested?
Animal rights seems to be British in origin. I think the head of PETA is a Brit.
She was on television justifying that dispicable billboard effort they launched
against Rudy Guliani. She was on Crossfire, and people on both the liberal and
conservative side used her as a rhetorical punching bag. She was like one of
those inflatable clowns or a Whack-a-mole. Every time she bounced up, one of
the two would pop her again. It was pretty funny.
The people who brought us Common Law have been reduced to efforts like
that.
Wish I'd seen that :-D
Yes, they are, but animals do need advocates.
No they don't.
Sure they do. They're completely innocent and powerless.
They're completely innocent and powerless.
They are ANIMALS. People that support animal rights should turn their attention to the butchering of unborn children.
You do plenty of that for everyone, jethro. I'll let you carry that banner.
They're completely innocent and powerless.
They are ANIMALS. People that support animal rights should turn their attention to the butchering of unborn children.
Mary Frances Berry should resign.
I think plants very well might, too.
Why wouldn't all living things have rights? What makes people so special?
Why wouldn't all living things have rights? What makes people so special?
You are kidding, right?
Washington, DC -- President Bush will not name pro-abortion AIDS
researcher Anthony Fauci as the director of the National Institutes of
Health, according to an unidentified official in the administration.
Instead, President Bush is "close" to naming an unidentified alternate
candidate.
HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson has been "pushing" for Fauci -- who has been
the director of NIH's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
Diseases since 1984 -- to be named NIH director since the summer. However,
administration officials are concerned with Fauci's silence on "whether he
supports abortion."
Fauci in the past has called research using tissue from aborted children
"scientifically significant."
Coalitions of pro-life advocates have closely monitored candidates for NIH
director and were concerned that someone would be appointed who did not
share their views on the life issue, said Deal Hudson, an outside White
House adviser on Catholic issues who is editor of Crisis Magazine.
"The trouble all along was finding someone who had the adequate research
credentials along with the kind of [pro-life] values that President Bush
wants to affirm," Hudson said.
Scientists don't welcome "those who affirm life in an earnest way," he
contended, making it hard to find someone with the scientific credentials
who also opposes abortion and has pro-life stances on related issues.
Ken Connor, president of the Family Research Council, referred to a 1988
article in which Fauci spoke favorably about AIDS research using human
fetal tissue in explaining why he opposes him. "This is a fellow who may
put research first and ethics second," he said.
The administration could fill the position "as early as this month."
They are ANIMALS. People that support animal rights should turn their attention to the butchering of unborn children.
FYI: You are an animal, as are those unborn children.
Because we were put here to have dominion over all the lands and animals. I forget the exact bible verse, but it goes something like that.
This is my personnal belief, take it for what you will.
the evil in some people is impossible to comprehend...
God save us all...
It sounds more like you got it from the Bible, than it being your personal belief. Did you come to believe it, and then just found out the Bible agrees, or did you first learn that opinion from the Bible?
You were close enough to the exact quote. "Dominion" means "control or rule; sovereignty". To have dominion over something basically means to govern it. Our government controls and rules us, it is sovereign over us-- does this mean we don't have rights? Does it mean that the government can kill us without regard to morality?
I don't get my opinions from the Bible, but you seem to believe it, so how about this:
"And to every beast of the earth, and every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food."
That's "God" talking, in case you didn't recognize his voice. It seems to me that what he's saying is that every living thing has a right to "every green plant for food." He also seems to be implying something, something about how there's this distinct group of beings, "everything that has the breath of life," and how that group of beings has been bestowed with certain rights by God.
It sounds to me like man's "dominion" over animals comes with rules. A sort of constitution for the government, or dominion, of the beasts of the world. All of which would lead me to believe that living things have rights (if I believed the Bible was the word of God, and that God as depicted in Christianity was real).
Government's dominion over man involves the job of enforcing and protecting man's rights. Why would man's dominion over all other living things be any different?
"Mmmmmmmmmmmmm, bacon....."