Oldtimer is more of a chamois color Oldtimer is covered in buds Oldtimer is trusted by 4 members (wonder which 4?) Oldtimer is never finished Oldtimer is right Oldtimer is not a daily driver that saves money Oldtimer is good friend and I really like this car Oldtimer is alive and well today and has an impressive list of mirrors Oldtimer is a hockey player 35 or older who plays an exciting brand of hockey Oldtimer is popular with golfers Oldtimer is looking for a good spot Oldtimer is lucky Oldtimer is for sale Oldtimer is too well disguised Oldtimer is about to leave
me2 is probably the best choice me2 is the only person in the world whom i would me2 is tailored specifically for boomers and other people who look for ways to maximize enjoyment of their leisure time me2 is said to be capable of accommodating up to six slideouts and to allow for innovative interior designs me2 is three times stronger than a conventional chassis me2 is used to breed a variety that is later grown in me4 or me5 me2 is the whipstress me2 is designed to answer these needs
All I know is, for my next wedding I will be wearing a hairy, flesh-toned ensemble because I will be buck naked with a toe tag lying on a slab in the morgue because I would have killed myself.
Way funny stuff Kitch! He got over 20,000 hits just while I was reading it. I like his style.
yeah OT- I have been following it all afternoon and into tonight--- I at the time I drove down there they hadnt gotten anyone else out besides the guy who wondered out. They say if they guy didnt get out and call the police that no-one would have known they were ever in there----That cave is on my list of 3 to research---I may have come across them---eeeeewwwww!!!! I was planning a cave trip through a couple there in the next couple of weeks with a group! It got postponed last week! I won't go in alone- we use helmets-flashlights, water and even one of those foil blankets but I don't know what I could do about monoxide-they had to have had a fire going! and they were from Savage-out of towners- NEVER START A FIRE IN A SANDSTONE CAVE!!!!!!! ---I am searching for a 'lost' cave -Its still there but whuch one is it exactly is the question and I am gonna find out! it was an old brewery cave in the mid 1860's (Not Yoerg). I had a really bad feeling when the cops talked to me a last month about the Yoerg cave and how they wanted a contact cave person for map info and caving safety info cause most of the police and fiefighters know little about the caves...I felt one of those feeling like something was gonna happen too soon!!! :(
Geeesh-those poor kids!!! the parents!!!! :( uuuuuuuuhhhhhh
o man- I didnt realize it has been this long since something has happened in the caves---crap!!crap!!! crap!!! wow!
St. Paul cave mishaps
Sept. 26, 1992 - Jill Huntington and Anna Marie Fries, both 17, found dead of smoke inhalation in a cave near Plato and Wabasha streets. Feb. 17, 1992 - Eugene Kaliszewski, 39, found dead in Mounds Park cave, likely died of smoke inhalation.
Dec. 19, 1989 - Glenn Howard, 33, died of smoke inhalation in a downtown cave near the foot of the Wabasha Street bridge.
June 13, 1988 - Virginia Green, 23, of Hugo, died in a cave-in at a Battle Creek Park cavern.
July 30, 1985 - James Wirth, 19, broke his back in a 20-foot fall inside a Water Street cave.
May 26, 1984 - Christopher Zielinski, 26, died and Thomas Cummens, 19, paralyzed after a fire caused a collapse in Cave 532, on Water Street.
Sad news me2. I remember when those boys died at Battle Creek back in the 80's that prompted them to close up and collapse some of them for the same reason. It's nice to know History but it's worthless if it's not passed on to those younger than you.
well, have been talking with many people on this cave tragedy :( soooo, the cave was sealed "way back when" - sandstone receads to expose access (very common)-someone gets in and lights a fire -the city sees it unsealed and they go to seal it again which holds the Carbon Monoxide -now the cave entrance errodes away again with not enough exits for the Carbon Monoxide to escape. kids go in and :(
soooo, our concern now is that they supposedly sealed this up again-not allowing the carbon monoxide to get out -so what happens when kids dig it out or it errodes again?
That particular cave is very deep -how did they even know when they sealed it that there wasn't anyone in it at the time? If they woulda checked for people then they may have been able to find detect the CO levels.
geeesh Anyone a chemist in here? How long can this deadly gas linger if it has no way out of a "test tube"?
I have considered getting a CO detector before but they run $1000.
Couldn't you buy one of those residential battery operated ones and hang it off a belt or something? They're farily inexpensive. Found some online for around $30.
thats for a portable CO detector by the way- there are a few different types out there for cavers- I havnt checked lately to see if the prices have dropped-I am sure one can be found on...EBay ;)
those are too bulky for small spaces -most caves are tight squeezes and not everyone can even fit through some of those holes-you want to travel as light as possible - these are handheld like a compass
well it broke $25 000 but then I went back and saw 200,000 more hits in 10 minutes and the price went up to 25086 then refreshed and it went down to $19000 something- I didnt know you could do that.
I wanted to be viewer number 3 million. I was close. Number 2,999,993! I need a life. Just looked and you're right. I guess someone retracted their bid. But I think you have to have good cause. Maybe mental illness?
I took a picture of my Easter lily and was going to use it for my avatar but never got around to it. I might still do it. I had a triple plant and had 20 blossoms! I just picked the last one off yesterday.
oh and the flower boxes.....they finish the right side of the house too. now if we could just find a color other than yellow to go with the hunter green, we wouldn't look like packer lovers.
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JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe Ho!
googleism rox
joe ho---yep!--- an proud of it
Oldtimer is more of a chamois color
Oldtimer is covered in buds
Oldtimer is trusted by 4 members (wonder which 4?)
Oldtimer is never finished
Oldtimer is right
Oldtimer is not a daily driver that saves money
Oldtimer is good friend and I really like this car
Oldtimer is alive and well today and has an impressive list of mirrors
Oldtimer is a hockey player 35 or older who plays an exciting brand of hockey
Oldtimer is popular with golfers
Oldtimer is looking for a good spot
Oldtimer is lucky
Oldtimer is for sale
Oldtimer is too well disguised
Oldtimer is about to leave
Good bye!
cluemaster is chased by chubbs
me2 is probably the best choice
me2 is the only person in the world whom i would
me2 is tailored specifically for boomers and other people who look for ways to maximize enjoyment of their leisure time
me2 is said to be capable of accommodating up to six slideouts and to allow for innovative interior designs
me2 is three times stronger than a conventional chassis
me2 is used to breed a variety that is later grown in me4 or me5
me2 is the whipstress
me2 is designed to answer these needs
me for one!
me2 is the only person in the world whom i would
This sounds like something that would have been on the old game show The Match Game.
me2 is the whipstress
I thought that was Dal!
Oldtimer is trusted by 4 members (wonder which 4?)
me for one!
ME2! ;)
Arrrrreeeeeeez? where are you?
me2 is the whipstress
I thought that was Dal!
me2 started it. dal just adopted it.
Arrrrreeeeeeez? where are you?
how's that for weird. me2 gets more posts in here recently than i have.
C'mon. I'vebeen getting more posts here than you have lately. You've been absent.
joe ho is a sexy mo fo
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4146756343&category=6
I just gotta show you guys this...I was rofl
Well Kitch.. it's up to 71 bids so far lol.
OTS!!! WOW!! NICE TO SEE YA HERE...
I found the dress off http://www.fark.com
I'm wondering why kitch is shopping for wedding dresses.
Oh boy. Three people lost in a cave off of Plato. Listening to the news now. Not a cave in. Smokey dust. One person got out.
Wow 2 weeks of maybe one post a day and
POW
14 in one day.
All I know is, for my next wedding I will be wearing a hairy, flesh-toned ensemble because I will be buck naked with a toe tag lying on a slab in the morgue because I would have killed myself.
Way funny stuff Kitch! He got over 20,000 hits just while I was reading it. I like his style.
yeah OT- I have been following it all afternoon and into tonight--- I at the time I drove down there they hadnt gotten anyone else out besides the guy who wondered out. They say if they guy didnt get out and call the police that no-one would have known they were ever in there----That cave is on my list of 3 to research---I may have come across them---eeeeewwwww!!!! I was planning a cave trip through a couple there in the next couple of weeks with a group! It got postponed last week! I won't go in alone- we use helmets-flashlights, water and even one of those foil blankets but I don't know what I could do about monoxide-they had to have had a fire going! and they were from Savage-out of towners- NEVER START A FIRE IN A SANDSTONE CAVE!!!!!!! ---I am searching for a 'lost' cave -Its still there but whuch one is it exactly is the question and I am gonna find out! it was an old brewery cave in the mid 1860's (Not Yoerg). I had a really bad feeling when the cops talked to me a last month about the Yoerg cave and how they wanted a contact cave person for map info and caving safety info cause most of the police and fiefighters know little about the caves...I felt one of those feeling like something was gonna happen too soon!!! :(
Geeesh-those poor kids!!! the parents!!!! :( uuuuuuuuhhhhhh
http://www.kstp.com
http://www.wcco.com
http://www.kare11.com/news/news-article.asp?NEWS_ID=62983#
all 3 are covering it on their front page
oh, what is the website for that ma press newspaper? Its probly there too
o man- I didnt realize it has been this long since something has happened in the caves---crap!!crap!!! crap!!! wow!
St. Paul cave mishaps
Sept. 26, 1992 - Jill Huntington and Anna Marie Fries, both 17, found dead of smoke inhalation in a cave near Plato and Wabasha streets.
Feb. 17, 1992 - Eugene Kaliszewski, 39, found dead in Mounds Park cave, likely died of smoke inhalation.
Dec. 19, 1989 - Glenn Howard, 33, died of smoke inhalation in a downtown cave near the foot of the Wabasha Street bridge.
June 13, 1988 - Virginia Green, 23, of Hugo, died in a cave-in at a Battle Creek Park cavern.
July 30, 1985 - James Wirth, 19, broke his back in a 20-foot fall inside a Water Street cave.
May 26, 1984 - Christopher Zielinski, 26, died and Thomas Cummens, 19, paralyzed after a fire caused a collapse in Cave 532, on Water Street.
Annie Fries dad grew up in my neighborhood and is a friend of mine. Her grandma lives across the alley from me now. It was a very sad thing.
Hello!
Seems like a long time since I was here for more than slogging.
Good to see OTS checking in again. Howdy OT and KT! I miss you both!
I miss all of you actually. Been way tooooooo long.
Work has been tough. We had to "workforce reduce" one of my staff due to budget issues. I hope I never have to do that again.
Otherwise we spend most weekends up north and try to keep up with demands on our time the rest of the time.
Hi Terry! Missed you too! Figured you were living the life of Riley up north and I'm jealous. Kind of slow in here but nice to hear from you.
Sad news me2. I remember when those boys died at Battle Creek back in the 80's that prompted them to close up and collapse some of them for the same reason. It's nice to know History but it's worthless if it's not passed on to those younger than you.
P.S. - Hi TV
well, have been talking with many people on this cave tragedy :(
soooo, the cave was sealed "way back when" - sandstone receads to expose access (very common)-someone gets in and lights a fire -the city sees it unsealed and they go to seal it again which holds the Carbon Monoxide -now the cave entrance errodes away again with not enough exits for the Carbon Monoxide to escape. kids go in and :(
soooo, our concern now is that they supposedly sealed this up again-not allowing the carbon monoxide to get out -so what happens when kids dig it out or it errodes again?
That particular cave is very deep -how did they even know when they sealed it that there wasn't anyone in it at the time? If they woulda checked for people then they may have been able to find detect the CO levels.
geeesh Anyone a chemist in here? How long can this deadly gas linger if it has no way out of a "test tube"?
I have considered getting a CO detector before but they run $1000.
Couldn't you buy one of those residential battery operated ones and hang it off a belt or something? They're farily inexpensive. Found some online for around $30.
thats for a portable CO detector by the way- there are a few different types out there for cavers- I havnt checked lately to see if the prices have dropped-I am sure one can be found on...EBay ;)
That wedding dress on ebay has had over 3 millions views so far!
those are too bulky for small spaces -most caves are tight squeezes and not everyone can even fit through some of those holes-you want to travel as light as possible - these are handheld like a compass
well it broke $25 000 but then I went back and saw 200,000 more hits in 10 minutes and the price went up to 25086 then refreshed and it went down to $19000 something- I didnt know you could do that.
I wanted to be viewer number 3 million. I was close. Number 2,999,993! I need a life. Just looked and you're right. I guess someone retracted their bid. But I think you have to have good cause. Maybe mental illness?
hahaha-
hey Google is going public! BUY!
For real? Might have to move some money around.
Hi Susie! May sounds pretty good unless the kids want to go up to the lake. Finally getting outside and doing some raking. Feels good.
Pansies are very hardy. Just remember to pinch off the old blooms or they get all leggy and you don't get as many blossoms.
I took a picture of my Easter lily and was going to use it for my avatar but never got around to it. I might still do it. I had a triple plant and had 20 blossoms! I just picked the last one off yesterday.
woo hoo!!! party at treasure chest's house!!!!!
er, um, hold on a sec there. let me think about that a little bit longer....
house cleaned....check.
yard looking good.....check.
garage cleaned so there's parking space.....check.
propane tank filled.....not so check.
yup. woo hoo!!! party at treasure chest's house!!!!!
Yes, you must remember to dead-head your pansies.
:-)
oh and the flower boxes.....they finish the right side of the house too. now if we could just find a color other than yellow to go with the hunter green, we wouldn't look like packer lovers.
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