This is a read only "Invitational" thread, run by Artemis, for her daily summary if she choses to do so.
FYI: Same access list as the invitationl thread, except read only.
Artemis The Huntress
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:28pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4148 of 4761) Clueless Joe must be a referance to the story Souchary did after the poor clues from last years hunt, he ripped the clue writer pretty good.
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:30pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4149 of 4761) Bark, by a tree.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:31pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4150 of 4761) Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline? Well, it's in a park.
KOP - (PFID:4d9c71cb) - 09:33pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4151 of 4761) AKA redram maybe not st.paul
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:38pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4155 of 4761) Same clue writer as last year.
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:40pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4156 of 4761) Prattle rhymes with Battle!!!
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 10:38pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4207 of 4768) Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on! Prattle====Chatter or babble ok we got a new cluewriter
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 10:38pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4208 of 4768) but not as new as I used to be The other thing that came up on my google search of prattle was a pagan newsleter by that name. There are a lot of Pagan cerominies that take place in lilydale park. just food for thought. but don,t take it to seriously this early
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 10:55pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4221 of 4776) Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on! I say Hidden Falls still, BARK=== dog park across the river (roxys favorite)or maybee they are hidding it in a Dog food can. Prattle=== babble====babling brook====Hidden Falls,The "Precious" is mine
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 10:59pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4225 of 4776) Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet! dog park could also refer to that arlington park, or still battle creek, because they have those trails where you can take your dog.
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 11:02pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4227 of 4776) Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet! area park... I'm not buying that it's a saint paul park for sure yet
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 11:07pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4230 of 4776) Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet! btw, did anyone notice the digging dog in the logo on the official PP treasure hunt page? I thought that was slightly interesting....
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 11:12pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4238 of 4776) Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet! just the reference to bark in the first clue, and a dog, why a dog in the logo? Okay granted dogs dig... I dunno, guess I'm not too used to the logo changes yet, I just thought it was weird, something to keep a mental note of.
SnowJester - (PFID:2fce4437) - 11:34pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4259 of 4776) I think it's interesting that people aren't discussing the baseball references. unfortunately, i'll have to get back into it tomorrow cuz i'm just too tired and i need to get my sleep now before this gets outta hand. it was nice to see everyone tonight! we all had a ton of fun. goodnight and scd's.
SnowJester - (PFID:2fce4437) - 11:41pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4267 of 4776) "say it ain't so, clueless joe" obvious reference to shoeless joe jackson. also, joe soucheray has written a lot of columns on the joys of the open air ball-park. ok, but i really have to go to bed. 'nite.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 12:49am Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4287 of 4807) My guess(es)? A park that has the same name as an *area*, i.e., Battle Creek, Phalen, Mounds, and... Sadly - Como. Joe, I pray it ain't so! SAY IT AIN'T SO! Not agian! Not this year! Not Como!
BlockHead - (PFID:4d9c7ea3) - 07:23am Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4328 of 4807) is it safe to go look'in yet? First clue means nothing! if it was hidden before this last dusting, most of the open spaces might be eliminated? My guess might be bark in a wooded,grassy area. Its never easy, when you think you've got it the'll humbilize you.
Ok guys... i'm going to share.... Clueless Joe-----Shoeless Joe "Say it aint so?" Thats all i'm saying :)
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 10:07am Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4378 of 4809) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. Ok, that scary guy PDG picture was just plain disturbing. Someone wanted to know why they have a dog digging on the PP logo. If you think about the PP billboards you see around town, they feature PP writers with a dog them. One is "Scoop Dog", another is "Junkyard Dog." Joe Soucheray's says "Speak boy, speak!" So I would guess they're just carrying on with the dog theme. "bark" in clue might actually be a reference to that.
Violent J - (PFID:13d365) - 11:34am Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4397 of 4830) We dont care what happens now...We swing our hatchets and we're proud...Painted faces in the crowd...The carnival will carry on... could "bark" refer to the off-lease dog area at Arlington?
Thats what I was thinkin too... that or near a Humane Society.. though its prolly putting too much into just one word.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 11:50am Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4405 of 4830) Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline? I sure as heck hope that the "say it ain't so, clueless Joe" clue isn't a reference to the proposed ball park site! I'm not going anywhere near that Ice Palace again!
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 11:52am Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4407 of 4830) bring it on the clue reminds me of "pirate talk". Any caribbean style parks around st paul?
Diggin'4_it_Again - (PFID:4d9c76e4) - 12:18pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4427 of 4830) Just keep diggin' just keep diggin' just keep diggin' diggin' diggin' HI REG Has anyone ever heard the term 'bark' used as a small boat with oars?
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 12:34pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4443 of 4830) bring it on Usual: thanks for the link to Joe's column. The first clue would certainly tie into that column! Could "Joe" also refer to a coffee place nearby?
abrogado - (PFID:4d9c6d0c) - 04:52pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4524 of 4831) Prattle Every year I try to read too much into the first clue... Prattle = Battle? Bark = Leashless dog area? SASG = first letters of streets that if extended the intersection of which give us the park? But, this year I'm not going to try to read anything into the first clue. :-)
abrogado - (PFID:4d9c6d0c) - 04:57pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4525 of 4831) Prat´tle Noun 1. prattle - idle or foolish and irrelevant talk blether, chin music, idle talk, prate chatter, yack, yak, yakety-yak, cackle - noisy talk Verb 1. prattle - speak (about unimportant matters) rapidly and incessantly
KOP - (PFID:4d9c71cb) - 05:05pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4527 of 4831) AKA redram all the cap words in the clue are...Say Clueless And Stop Go
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 07:28pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4565 of 4843) Sam-I-am It just doesn't seem to corrispond correctly with the photo - I was just thinking - palace -- Ice palace - might be a nice tie in - so I went to look at the map and the photo - and it just didn't jive (or maybe it does, and my brain is viewing it in reverse)
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 07:36pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4572 of 4843) Sam-I-am Palace Park Palace park is located in west 7th - Bay on east, Jefferson on North, Palace on south, View on west... Vance Street - cut through the center (WTF???) Anybody??
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 08:26pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4612 of 4834) Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on! Sorry all I just got on why does people think Palace park?? Also if the Bark has a reference to a dog park then at Hidden falls is right across the river from the piggest dog park in the state. I take my dog there at times, I liked idea someone had of "say it aint so " refering to a movie about some animal shelter worker.
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 08:57pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4647 of 4835) OK KID GIVE ME THE NEXT CLUE!!! Hey Im thinkin a different park cause area park just like conway
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:04pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4654 of 4835) Sam-I-am Here is a fun noodle What about this (how bout for diggin deep) Joe Jackson Jefferson ... Jackson elem. School is near Scheffer park,, which is near university ave .. go U?
Clue 2
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:11pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4666 of 4835) Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline? By the way. Where was the green donut hidden in the Archie comic? I guessed near a library, but never heard a location.
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 09:13pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4672 of 4838) Hmmmmm Clue #2 doesn't really say much.... other than maybe what the puck's hidden is green.. or they're referring to money being green.. lol I dunno.
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:17pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4678 of 4838) The guys in the Archie comics were Reggie, Archie and Jughead. One of the girls was Veronica, what was the other girls name?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:17pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4679 of 4838) Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline? Betty. And they went to Riverdale High School
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:21pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4690 of 4838) Wasn't there a soap commercial for "Irish Spring" soap saying something about the Emerald Isle? Homeless Artist_ - (PFID:4d9c80bb) - 09:24pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4692 of 4838) All eyes open for green objects ok, the doughnut in the comic is green, The ice palace on PP front page is green. ...
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:27pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4694 of 4838) but not as new as I used to be Ireland is often refered to as the emerald isle is it by an irish pub?
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:29pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4696 of 4838) Sam-I-am Emerald Inn Emerald inn - in Maplewood -across from Lakewood Hills park... could the green just be refering to the money you could win?
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 09:33pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4700 of 4838) Hey guys... what about the Emerald Inn... isn't there one of those hotels off of McKnight and 94 right by Battle Creek???
The Usual Suspect - (PFID:2fce3e19) - 09:35pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4704 of 4838) I believe in God, but the only thing that scares me is Keyser Soze Emerald Inn of Maplewood 2025 County Rd D East, Saint Paul thats all I could find
Artemis The Huntress - (PFID:13d315) - 09:37pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4706 of 4838) Still searching... an object this week so are they telling us it should be easy to find, that it should be found this week?
This website publishes the recent Archie comic strips that are published in the newspaper. Maybe we need to find out what Jughead is talking about in one of the comic strips. I went back about 10 days, and about half of them have Archie & jughead together If you switch around the 3rd paragraph a little you get: Like Archie,this week you seek an object
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 09:46pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4716 of 4838) I just think that the medallion will be found with an Archie comic. But it doesn't hurt to dig to keep it interesting.
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 09:52pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4718 of 4838) "... After his caveman cousin thaws out from an icy slumber, Jughead teaches the Neanderthal ... the lady bird of his dreams when he finds a brilliant emerald" From the movie Pebble and the Penguin
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 09:52pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4719 of 4838) Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on! HEY TERRY concentrate on what Jughead is saying cuz it says Jughead has spoken!!
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 09:54pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4723 of 4838) Emerald Isle Immigration Center (EIIC) is a not-for-profit organization established in 1988 and committed to providing services to Irish immigrants in the United States. It is an initiative of the Irish immigrant and Irish American population of New York City.
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 10:11pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4733 of 4840) Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on! Found it Ah HA HA HA Number 78 archie and Jughead look for the Green doughnut for the $5000 inspired by a MInnesota event, how do I post http://www.thiscomicsworthreading.com/reviews/2004/0110archie.html
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 10:19pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4737 of 4840) Are there any doughnut shops close to any of the parks?
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 10:22pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4740 of 4840) Sam-I-am Krispy Krack is Krispy Krack - I mean Kreme doing any kind of promos? Their logo is green - donuts - yum..... (thinking about going to krispy krack right now :-) JOE!
Diggin'4_it_Again - (PFID:4d9c76e4) - 10:24pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4742 of 4840) Just keep diggin' just keep diggin' just keep diggin' diggin' diggin' The new krisy kreme by battle creek and their signs are green
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:25pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4744 of 4840) Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline? I just think that the hunt would pretty much be limited to people who read the comic and knew about the green donut. I'm not going to worry too much about the content of the comic book.
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 10:51pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4770 of 4840) Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on! I need to know what Jughead says in the commic clue says Jughead has spoken
grn_i_grl - (PFID:2fce3e48) - 10:52pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4775 of 4840) It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others last year a bunch of people were hung up on clue #8's last line: 'Lure me precious to your soul' as a reference to the two towers movie but based on the explanation for that clue this reasoning seemed unlikely and as the writers have never referenced a movie etc it it seems doubtful they would start
Homeless Artist_ - (PFID:4d9c80bb) - 10:58pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4779 of 4840) What Jughead says On the cover at least "And he can't even find the REMOTE"
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 11:03pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4786 of 4840) HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe......... Hmmm..... cuz I stumbled across Archie Fisher, who contributed to BBC
The first black woman to find the puck - (PFID:4d9c81b3) - 11:09pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4792 of 4840) I just gotta get it Just a thought Green Isle, MN a city by mille lacs I think
Kitty 2003 - (PFID:2fce3be9) - 02:32am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4831 of 4840) Just remember the clues all fit into 3 categories: What it's in, what park it's in (landmarks etc.) and where it is in that park. The simplest explanation is usually the right one (except for last year!)
(From Invitational thread) Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:53pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 2259 of 2273) Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline? Someone at the live chat is talking about there being a Palace Park in the comic book. And there have been palaces at Lake Phalen and they took the ice from Lake Phalen this year. Hey! I might be a believer!
From “let the hunt begin thread”
Homeless Artist_ - (PFID:4d9c80bb) - 03:49pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 16 of 16) Ball "Park"?
There was an artical about the stadium proposal next to the first clue in the Paper. That could be an "area park"
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 05:46am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4849 of 5363) "Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?" Forsythe Pendelton Jones =a.k.a. Jughead Jughead is perpetually hungry, he is always eating if not loafing poster boy for weirdness sharp mind behind weirdness and Archie often comes to Jughead for help with solving his dilemmas
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 05:48am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4850 of 5363) "Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?" Sounds like it's in something green like mitten or green tire swing or childs playground item. Could also mean it't out in a grass area
THX 1138 - (PFID:13d2c9) - 06:31am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4856 of 5363) Hoping my Treasure Hunters Guide isn't mistaken for an almanac.
Maybe they changed the color of the medallion?
oriongirl79 - (PFID:2fce3de5) - 07:02am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4860 of 5363) love this time of year! morning kiddies. How about riverdale gang = riverside.. that was my first instinct with the archie stuff. i'll have to think some more on these. :o) good luck y'all!
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 08:10am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4870 of 5365) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. So what parks have Irish bars nearby?
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 08:12am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4871 of 5365) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. I'm thinking there is one on Burns Ave. across from the wooded part of Indian Mounds as it approaches Highway 61.
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 08:13am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4872 of 5365) It's amazing how quiet it is around here kinda erie...but I suppose give it 2 more clues and I won't be able to keep up. I'm thinking it is either not in a St. Paul park but in a Ramsey County Park possibly one of the parks that boarder St. Paul and another city..I also think you need to see something green from where the medallion is. A green water tower...a green house...a green picnic bench could be a million things...I think the reference to Archie is also kind of just a way of saying look we made it into the comics. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it...until 11 tonight anyways. I'm off to study.
medallion queen - (PFID:2fce4021) - 08:16am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4873 of 5365) The bar across the street from mounds is Obbs
oriongirl79 - (PFID:2fce3de5) - 08:20am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4874 of 5365) love this time of year! green green could also be the greens of the highland park golf course. but i'm thinking pub too. :o) as far as the comic that seems way too deep for the average treasure hunter to get.. but i like the reference.. and it's cool we made it into the comics!
Macdaddy - (PFID:2fce43b1) - 08:28am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4875 of 5365) Searching for order in chaos. green object seems to indicate what it is in not near?? If it was near then "this week" would make no sense because by Fri we are looking closer then just a water tower.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 08:30am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4876 of 5365) Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline? Could Obbs be short for OB? Like O'Brien?
Dharma LaKreg - (PFID:2fce4129) - 08:33am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4877 of 5365) half time rec is irish bar on front near calvary cemetary (where John Ireland is buried), only big park near there is como
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 08:41am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4883 of 5365) This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne. mornin' all... so what are the thoughts on the Archie references? I think probably wrapped inside some comic pages and stuffed in a green box of some kind?? I slogged back a few hundred messages and didn't see any thoughts on it.
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 08:44am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4889 of 5365) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. Indeed...that was recorded 3 years ago...when they were new I thought that voice was rather unmistakeable. so what are the thoughts on the Archie references? Unless something comes up later that seems to be a logical tie-in, I'm going to assume they just wanted to reference the fact that the Archie comics based an issue on our hunt, and they used looking for something green as the common point with which to tie it in.
SNAKE88 - (PFID:4d9c6c9e) - 08:49am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4891 of 5365) What about Community Park by the Clover Bar
Mr. Med Hunter - (PFID:13d352) - 08:55am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4893 of 5365) Snake88 wants to hunt in Vadnais Heights! BTW, Community Park is a very nice park!
SNAKE88 - (PFID:4d9c6c9e) - 09:06am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4896 of 5365) Its a way sweet park on county road f
SNAKE88 - (PFID:4d9c6c9e) - 09:07am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4897 of 5365) Big park too
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 09:21am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4904 of 5365) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 emerald gem lake?
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 10:32am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4916 of 5365) This year we're gonna find it! May I ask where the heck is Community Park? Can't find it anywhere.
I was there once this summer, nice park, but it's recently been renovated, while I"m not counting it out, I have my doubts it's there, just doesn't feel right.
BlockHead - (PFID:4d9c7ea3) - 11:09am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4923 of 5378) if you think i'm slogg'in como again, you've got another thing com'in marthalier,acorn,schmidt kinda sets outer limits, but who knows?
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 12:52pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4938 of 5378) BrinG iT oN!! :-) Jughead and Archie are also some kind of computer terms as per "hyper dictionary".
Wabbit - (PFID:13d98a) - 12:55pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4941 of 5378) I sorta think Battle Creek too so far. (and maybe phalen for no particular reason) The thought I had was that the town in the comic was Riverside. So, maybe by the river - Hidden Falls, anybody? But, probably just a reference to something green perhaps.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 01:04pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4946 of 5378) "Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?" Archie could be the arch by Highland Park and jugheads favorite food is burgers "MAC" mac-groveland area?
Wabbit - (PFID:13d98a) - 01:05pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4947 of 5378) Opps, I thought it was riverside, sorry. I think Community park is the park north of the st paul campus at Cleveland and, and, Sorry, the name slips me. I went there in 1993 one night. At least, I think I did.
Wabbit - (PFID:13d98a) - 01:06pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4948 of 5378) I think you can see views of the fairgrounda at community park if I remember right. Well, I have been sitting here working at home all day. I need to get out and walk Might as well look for something green among the white.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 01:11pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4951 of 5378) BrinG iT oN!! :-) Battle creek park is part of the "great river GREENING" project
_Homeless Artist_ - (PFID:4d9c80bb) - 01:58pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4958 of 5378) Yoda is green, use the force First Black Woman had a good idea about being able to find the green dounut but not the REMOTE (location?). I like the Archie, Jughead, Veronica = internet protocals idea because it ties to "Gopher" the old FTP protocall. .. "Go You look..." -->Go U ---> Gopher U? Minneapolis : ) But anyway GOOD DAY! I see green here, hey Green, what do you think of the green refence? grabs a Krispy Kream* Thanks Violent J. Fuel for the walk around my area. ...hmmm what if I look for Green m&m geo-cach this week.... would that bring me closer? I do know about the geocaching club to anwser who asked. King Boreis is on there, and other cooler crew folks too.
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 02:01pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4959 of 5378) This year we're gonna find it! That project also deals with Phalen, Swede Hollow and just about every park along the river.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 02:25pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4966 of 5378) BrinG iT oN!! :-) Could it refer to Archie Bunker of All in the Family?
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 02:28pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4967 of 5378) Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet! doubtin it.. specially not with the jughead mention in the same clue
SnowJester - (PFID:2fce4437) - 02:36pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4968 of 5378) am the only one lost on this whole "community park" thing? i don't see where there is a reference to that in clue #2. also, do you think "Like Archie, you seek; an object this week" is the cluewriter making fun of us for being mad at short hunts and/or impossible hunts. Kinda like he's teasing us that it will be found this week and we'll all be left with nothing to do this weekend. maybe that makes no sense at all...maybe i just really don't like this guy.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 05:12pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5027 of 5413) BrinG iT oN!! :-) John Ireland Blvd? xenathewarrior - (PFID:4d9c82ba) - 05:51pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5041 of 5493) Where is my precious??? Emerald Isle = Think Sonic the Hedgehog, which was created by Archie Comics. But what does this mean? Does anyone have any insight on this????
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 07:22pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5106 of 5494) So I'm thinking we're all putting far too much thought into these clues. I was reading some of the old clues from years past, and none got too indeph, except for last years, which sucked. I like Arlington-Arkwright still. it's a leashless dog park, it has a really nice baseball diamond, and it was home to my grade school baseball team, the St Patricks Fighting Irish. There's your Irish connection! Actualy in all seriousness, St Pat's church is right up the road from A-A, so it's not off my radar yet, though no other parks really are either at this point.
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 08:54pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5158 of 5494) but not as new as I used to be Hi maureen I thinl the 2nd clue was about the park it is in, not the puck itself. This week, the first week, the object we seek is the park. next week we seek the puck. What do you think??
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:38pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5220 of 5494) but not as new as I used to be anagram time
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:40pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5226 of 5494) Lurk No More! Sounds like an anagram in there somewhere. Could be a red herring from the sounds of it though.
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 09:41pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5229 of 5494) HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe......... Hmmm... maybe it's referring to a hospital or something (?)
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:46pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5237 of 5494) "Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?" How about word processor-help me anytime anyday but beware false advice?
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 09:46pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5238 of 5494) HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe......... maybe the false advice is that the fairgrounds are off limits?
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 09:46pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5239 of 5494) BrinG iT oN!! :-) time: some kind of clock; first lines have to be a hospital nearby
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:46pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5240 of 5494) Sam-I-am MT Clue This has just confirmed my suspecions.. Clue one - has some meat to it.. (lots of little tidbits) Clue two - tells us that something is green (perhaps the hiding material) - but mostly filibuster to stretch out the hunt. Clue three - more filler - one little nugget - haven't decided what that nugget is yet Just my opinion ( but I always think I'm right!)
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 09:47pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5242 of 5494) could maybe be court house???
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:47pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5243 of 5494) "Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?" Firehouse and firemen for help me anytime anyday
Juster - (PFID:2fce43bc) - 09:48pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5246 of 5494) I think emergency services...police department, fire station...
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:50pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5248 of 5494) Sam-I-am Thinking... Do you think the clue writer is making fun of all the bogus stuff that is posted on the boards - the fake clues, the fake Jayloc park, that kind of crap? I think he is poking his stick though our cage!
The Usual Suspect - (PFID:2fce3e19) - 09:51pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5250 of 5494) I believe in God, but the only thing that scares me is Keyser Soze Prank? Perhaps. All is fair. Like a prank 911 call
maureen hursey - (PFID:2fce4385) - 09:52pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5251 of 5494) He is not playing tricks! Well Maybe you have to find the first hand of tricks!
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:52pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5252 of 5494) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street Firs tthing I thought of was a lifesaver...but Hariiet Island is ruled out, right??
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 09:53pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5255 of 5494) In order to understand the celebrations, you first have to understand the community. Harriet Island is out. It's in the rules this year. Clever device - beware of false advice...a fortune telling machine? A fortune cookie? a ouija board?
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 09:53pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5256 of 5494) This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne. Love4Vino - Maybe you're right!! Maybe they have plants in the chatroom this year who are telling us another meaning the clues have (a clever device with false advice) The only problem is...people who don't use the net would be left out in the cold with this clue so it would be kind of a waste of a clue. This is a tough one.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:55pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5258 of 5494) Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline? It's neither here nor there, it's everywhere
The Usual Suspect - (PFID:2fce3e19) - 09:55pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5260 of 5494) I believe in God, but the only thing that scares me is Keyser Soze the internet
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 09:56pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5261 of 5494) This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne. clever device that gives advice = chatroom.
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:57pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5262 of 5494) Lurk No More! This is probably noodling run amok, but the "It's neither here nor there" and "false advice" is saying that the object of the clue is not near this park. That would be kind of a twist on things. Maybe we're supposed to think there is a hospital/police station/firehouse nearby , but really there is not. AAAH.... my brain hurts!!!
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:57pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5264 of 5494) Sam-I-am How many people do you think - don't use a chat room? or don't hear false rumors about where it is?? not necesarily the internet I guess. Lying has been refered to as a clever device.. hummm What is on midway ?? any parks ... I am thinking Fair - there at the fair is a Midway...
medallion queen - (PFID:2fce4021) - 09:57pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5265 of 5494) They still havent said if it's in st paul or ramsey county, which is usually in the 1st clue.Maybe that's what they mean by neither here nor there
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 10:00pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5269 of 5494) HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe......... hmmm... MQ good point... Phalen or BC?? both are on boudaries
Artemis The Huntress - (PFID:13d315) - 10:01pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5274 of 5494) Still searching... Like a prank 911 call Thats what I'm thinking- that whole clue just gives us 911...an address maybe? or a date? Help me!you say. "Any time. Any day. Thats what you'd say if you called 911, and you can call any time any day. It's neither here nor there." where is 911? I'm sure there is abuilding, but the conversation takes place over the phone lines A quite clever device much more organized than having to make 3 seperate calls to the hospital, fire dept and police dept in case of a real emergency Prank? prank phone call
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 10:02pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5281 of 5494) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street Without confirmation that it is a park in St. Paul, I would say that should def. be taken into consideration first... Also, given that the med has been in 2 new parks in 5 years.. 1999 (conway) 2003 (merriam) Lets not rule out the possibility of a new park...maybe a new park outside STP
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 10:06pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5290 of 5494) Just say no to O&O It could possibly be a double meaning. One meaning is the net, a gentle jab at us from the cluewriter. This meaning wouldn't make the paper. There would be an official explanation that would. I think that's plausible.
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 10:06pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5291 of 5494) PLEASE HELP FIND DRU @ www.finddru.com Maybe its in a park by a hospital>>>>>>>>>>>Help!!!! thing
medallion queen - (PFID:2fce4021) - 10:08pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5297 of 5494) It doesnt have to be fair & it wont be fair this year. Thats the last line of the clue
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 10:08pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5299 of 5494) Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on! Fairview its at Newel Fairview its at Newel
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 10:08pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5300 of 5494) Sam-I-am OH god! Midway runs right into COMO! NO! Say it ain't so Joe! It's at como! yuck.... We all did say - it wasn't fair for it to be @ como 2 years close together...
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 10:08pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5302 of 5494) This year we're gonna find it! I admit Batlle Creek is my pick the help part of the clue could mean 911, well the zip for battle creek is 119. A big stretch, probably.
medallion queen - (PFID:2fce4021) - 10:08pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5303 of 5494) Or maybe its a prank clue & it really means nothing at all!
Artemis The Huntress - (PFID:13d315) - 10:08pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5304 of 5494) Still searching... MQ, I also now agree with your Ramsey/st. paul (here nor there) idea...it makes alot of sense. now thats interesting... if its not here, and its not there, could it be both? Phalen/Keller or BC! Maplewood side!
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 10:10pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5305 of 5494) PLEASE HELP FIND DRU @ www.finddru.com OH NO NOT COMO AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone quick.......check the FROG pond!!!!!!!!!!!!
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 10:25pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5343 of 5498) HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe......... Maybe the writer wants us to think that it could be on the boundaries and that is the false advice, meaning that it simply is just in St. Paul... an area park
Juster - (PFID:2fce43bc) - 10:25pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5344 of 5498) Neither here nor there = a park that its never been at
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:32pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5361 of 5498) Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline? So, "Help me"is in quotes, and also "Any time. Any day. It's neither here nor there"
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:33pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5363 of 5498) Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline? So it sounds like the speaker is saying, I'll help you when you want. It's no big deal to me.
Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 10:38pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5366 of 5498) For the LITERAL meaning of the clue, I think the clue reader is saying he/she needs help and the cluewriter is responding. If the reader was saying both lines, there would be a comma after "say" instead of a period.
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 10:39pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5368 of 5498) Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on! Any songs with ""Any time any day""" in them??????
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 10:40pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5369 of 5498) HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe......... If it's not here nor there, it's inbetween (?)
medallion queen - (PFID:2fce4021) - 10:41pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5370 of 5498) Thats what I was thinking but in between what?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:42pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5372 of 5498) Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline? Well, if you want to get literal. It could be two people speaking. First one says, "Help me!" Help me! you say. is a sentence. Then the second person responds, "Any time. Any day. It's neither here nor there." ;)
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:43pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5374 of 5498) Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline? The popular saying is: It's neither here nor there, it's everywhere
_Homeless Artist_ - (PFID:4d9c80bb) - 10:43pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5376 of 5498) Comics by REX nether heare nor there = it's not hidden yet because "they" like messing with us and all is fair. Anagram for caps = AHA PAPA I (Aha! paper eye) streeeeech PAPA HA AI (papa HomelessArtist Artifical Intellegence) art-offical AHA AI APP (Aha! Artifical Intelegence Application) + (clever device) = Gohpher, Archie, Veronica
Regalman - (PFID:2fce42c3) - 10:45pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5382 of 5498) Anyone think the clever device may be the hunter's guide, and the false advice would be a park or area not listed in the guide?
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 10:47pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5383 of 5498) Sam-I-am Ok - I am sick now - COMO Neither here nor there - (midway) thanks queen midway runs into como we all prattled and barked about como last year the humane society near como the frog @ the park is green... How many more ways do you want me to tie in como YOU as in U turn (back to como this year) ick ick ick ick ick ... quick! Someone give me a better reason for another park... ick ick ick
Regalman - (PFID:2fce42c3) - 10:51pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5402 of 5498) Considering merriam, newell and como twice in the last few years, it better not be in the midway or como area. Too many other places are due.
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 10:54pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5409 of 5498) HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe......... maybe area refers to Regions hospital and todays clue
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 10:54pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5411 of 5498) Sam-I-am NO # 37 is right.. I am just a bad picture looker . I couldn't find the damn horseshoes which were going to bite me - as they were right there in the photo... I just had an idea... ALL IS FAIR.... MAPLEWOOD IS FAIR GAME AS A HIDING SPOT
medallion queen - (PFID:2fce4021) - 10:55pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5413 of 5498) Its probably at mounds beacuse none of the clues point there so its neither her nor there to all of the parks that we've mentioned
Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 10:56pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5414 of 5498) I think this clue means "Keep an open mind. It is not going to be where you expect it to be"
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 10:58pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5419 of 5498) PLEASE HELP FIND DRU @ www.finddru.com Also. whats up with the cowboy talk........Yer.........or that could possibly be southern too. Ideas????
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 11:04pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5430 of 5498) Year #8, maybe I'll find it THIS time I'm going to the Palac tomorrow, looking forward to it, and to Rice for the ice sculptures... What about this... "How's your diggin' goin'?" — "Not bad, but I'm kinda just to and fro, y'know?" That is from the "Cooler Crew Treasure Hunters Glossary"... . It's neither here nor there -- made me think of that.. but it means nothing... Are there any "Dog parks" in Ramsey?
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 11:13pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5438 of 5498) Sam-I-am Arlington - arkwright is Ramsey Dog park!
Violent J - (PFID:13d365) - 11:13pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5439 of 5498) The Flying Hamster of DOOM Rains Coconuts On Your Pitiful City! Hell yeah.. sure am, Step. Maureen...I cant make heads or tails of it...cept for maybe the "fair" word... I know its prolly putting too much into it, but I was thinkin about the word "green", possibly meaning "New".... and then this fair thing.. maybe the state fair is in site of the hiding spot...hell maybe its on the fair grounds... who knows... or.. fair, could also mean "well" Newell?
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 11:15pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5441 of 5498) Sam-I-am I just thought of something.... Emerald Isle .... Green Bay ... Do you think the puck is wrapped in somthing for green bay packers????
SnowJester - (PFID:2fce4437) - 11:17pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5446 of 5498) We were thinking along that line too. an area park could also reference a park with a lot of actual area...aka: Phalen, Battle Creek, Highland, Hidden falls/crosby, and (EEEEK!!!) como.
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 11:18pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5448 of 5498) Year #8, maybe I'll find it THIS time There, that's better... THe first clue made me think of a off leash dog park (just cuz of the "bark".. 4 in Ramsey Woodview, Rice Creek,Battle Creek, Otter Lake 1 in St. Paul (Arlington/ Arkwright)
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 11:37pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5486 of 5498) Year #8, maybe I'll find it THIS time I just had a thought. What about Highland? Green Isle.. isn't HIghland == Ireland (or scotland??) also, green... DIsk golf. Help, and time.. the police station just a thougt
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 11:41pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5488 of 5498) Sam-I-am Close is all relative How about south saint anthony's play ground..... playground - prattle Saints are irish...
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 08:41am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5511 of 5690) anyone know if emerald street runs into hidden falls.I know it runs into desnoyer rec center right near a golf course
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 08:49am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5512 of 5690) BrinG iT oN!! :-) Hey Matt, i looked up that street yesterday on Mapquest and thought it looked far away from the park, but you never know. Last year that French Imersion school was a clue for Como site, and it was blocks away.....
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 08:54am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5514 of 5690) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. I just had an idea... ALL IS FAIR.... MAPLEWOOD IS FAIR GAME AS A HIDING SPOT! I think that's what Clue #3 is saying.
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 09:50am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5523 of 5690) theres a emerald inn in maplewood on 694 and white bear ave does any one know the name of the park&lake 1 block north of 694 at wht bear ave????
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:58am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5525 of 5690) Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet! theres a emerald inn in maplewood on 694 and white bear ave does any one know the name of the park&lake 1 block north of 694 at wht bear ave???? Lakewood Hills Park
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 10:01am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5526 of 5690) I like the fair game refering to Maplewood. It causes me to lean towards Phalen and BC. I saw somewhere the take that "All is fair in love and War" which is written by Francis Edwards which could lead to Frank St that runs into Lake (Edward) Phalen Park. Could be onto something there....
the oysterking - (PFID:4d9c836e) - 10:26am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5531 of 5690) am the oysterking fool! archies?? wasnt there an archies bar on arcade??
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:31am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5533 of 5690) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? There's an Archie's Bar in Hopkins. Don't remember if there was ever one on Arcade.
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 11:45am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5539 of 5690) I'm not sure on the Archie's bar theroy. I can't think of one, and that's my hood right there on Arcade. But as of now if I were to take a shot at where it was in Phalen I'd say by a tree where Earl St should go through just South East of the baseball fields. I'm curious what the address are around there? anything 911. I know there's a clinic that's 911 E Maryland across from the old Knowlan's supermarket that's not far from Phalen, but that might be streaching it. Course it could be at Como again too for all I really know at this point....
the oysterking - (PFID:4d9c836e) - 12:06pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5545 of 5690) am the oysterking fool! archies some on here told me there used to be an archies on arcade he thinks its called pickles now and theres a lockwood playground nearby
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 12:23pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5546 of 5690) Ya, I know Lockwood. It's between Forest and Arcade off Maryland (maybe near the address 911?) It's got two baseball fields, a new playground and about a half block from Phalen Elementry school (prattle and bark, kids on the playground from Lockwood?) Keep an eye out for refrences that fit Mendota, kinds of flowers (both the cross streets by the park) or Polish (st Casmir a polish catholic church is about 2 blocks away) That's my rundown of Lockwood. Sounds as if it could fit...
Wabbit - (PFID:13d98a) - 12:46pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5548 of 5690) I haven't been sloggin enough today, but I just feel a sense of foreboding with this clue. I was just looking in the dictionary. A device is also a scheme to deceive. Funny, but a prank besides a mischevious act is also to dress or adorn gaily or showily. Well, I have to leave the house, once a day, so I best get on with it and go out and look somewhere.
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 01:06pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5565 of 5690) Representing the MidWest HEY EVERYONE!!!!! So whats the ideas on clue 3? address of 911? or how about that onstar device on those cars to get help?
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 06:03pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5626 of 5694) My 11 year old thought there was a Dr. Suess reference in todays clue. "nither here nor there" from Green Eggs and ham. Any thoughts?
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 06:39pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5629 of 5694) BrinG iT oN!! :-) Snow! My son said the same thing to me today. We just did not remember the book; do you think the clue makers would repeat the Dr Suess reference from last year?? (Horton)
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:11pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5699 of 5716) Sam-I-am GO U LOOK?? Look in the park for a U or a sign that says GO????
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:22pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5723 of 5766) This year we're gonna find it! Sounds like BC to me and I'll bet Soucheray is the new clue writer!
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 09:22pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5724 of 5766) Ugh... ok so it's somewhere stony and sandy... a lake maybe?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:23pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5725 of 5766) "Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?" East Side West Side? Meet in the middle sounds like the river stony and sandy place, rides on boats--east side river Saint Paul--west side river Minnesnapolis!
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:23pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5727 of 5766) Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet! shoreview, I like that
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:24pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5729 of 5766) "Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?" Hidden Falls?
Artemis The Huntress - (PFID:13d315) - 09:24pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5731 of 5766) Still searching... Argh! Como yet again?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:25pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5735 of 5766) "Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?" What ya think all about the river?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:27pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5738 of 5766) "Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?" Riverdale refers to Archie comic setting--bouncing ball follow towards Minneapolis Basketball, Football
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 09:28pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5741 of 5766) Representing the MidWest east and west could be como but clue 3 says they could be playing a prank on us
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:28pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5742 of 5766) Sam-I-am East side - west side Same park different cites - different sides...? Bouncing ball - tennis courts, basketball courts????
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:29pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5743 of 5766) Lurk No More! What's the big 10K race down by the Ford plant in the Spring by the Ford plant? It runs by Hidden Falls, doesn't it?
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 09:29pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5744 of 5766) Representing the MidWest um isnt battle creek in 2 different cities?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:30pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5745 of 5766) "Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?" Saint Thomas-- Irish Catholic University?
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:35pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5754 of 5766) Lurk No More! Stony and sandy place=sandstone as in sandstone bluffs? Hidden falls? Anywhere else?
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:35pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5756 of 5766) Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet! I'm not so sure about battle creek, it sounds good, but in all honesty, the clues make me think of something definately outside saint paul
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 09:35pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5757 of 5766) SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE Is phalen maked east and west like como
brassmonkey - (PFID:4d9c8251) - 09:36pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5758 of 5766) Avid hunter of 20 years Sandstone cliffs in Battle creek
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:36pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5759 of 5766) Sam-I-am I think it's in phalen....
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:38pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5760 of 5766) Sam-I-am Didn't they used to do the snow dog races @ phalen.... take your honey for a ride. To the swift belongs the race
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:38pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5761 of 5766) "Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?" Evildoer yeah that Marathon runs right down towards hidden Falls and past Saint Thomas-- been there seen them
Violent J - (PFID:13d365) - 09:39pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5763 of 5766) The Flying Hamster of DOOM Rains Coconuts On Your Pitiful City! Yeah.. they used to do that... plus.. I like it cause of the "sand" reference... although it might be nothing... Phalen is the only park with a beach.. at least that I can think of
Tootin4U - (PFID:4d9c812a) - 09:39pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5765 of 5766) mounds park and cherokee have the "sandstone" bluffs, but i dont think they would give a big clue like that so early on
Shaggy 2 Dope - (PFID:1ff4ca28) - 09:40pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5766 of 5766) The dead probably out number the living 10,000 to 1. Phalen has east shore drive Take your honey for a ride could refer to cruisin round the lake like a lot of them young uns like doing... and they have car races on the lake
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:41pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5767 of 5796) Lurk No More! Love4Vino...they also normally have the car races on Lake Phalen during the winter carnival...but not this year since they harvsted all the ice for the palace.
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:41pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5768 of 5796) Sam-I-am Phalen has golf course too - Sand dunes "fair" way to play on. Rock walls & Stone planters - Stone bridge (all in ZONE 1 of Hunters map)
Violent J - (PFID:13d365) - 09:45pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5773 of 5796) The Flying Hamster of DOOM Rains Coconuts On Your Pitiful City! Thought.. Come One Come All.... Circus??? where has the circus been going?? The State Fair Collisium.. not only that, but isnt that place green?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:47pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5778 of 5796) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? I still like the lyrics to East Side, West Side. The tot's playing ring around rosie? London Bridge is falling down? A bridge that came down? Where was that bridge that was replaced last year that people were posting pictures of?
ThoseMedallingKids - (PFID:13d2e4) - 09:49pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5782 of 5796) I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for ThoseMedallingKids! Circus training academy at Highland Park
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:52pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5791 of 5796) Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet! there's an adventure park that appears to be inside the fairgrounds
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 09:55pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5793 of 5796) No More Hedda Gabler Goulash! Is everybody totally SURE the fair is a no-no? After all- they've hidden it there in the past..
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:56pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5795 of 5796) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? All I know is that people have gone out there during previous hunts, and have been kicked out
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 09:56pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5796 of 5796)
<--- Creepiest avatar yet. OT, are you thinking of the Earl Street bridge? That's the one I posted some pictures of.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:57pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5797 of 5805) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? Yeah, that must be it. I'm just tying a bridge falling down to that. Are there any parks around there?
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:57pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5798 of 5805) Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet! adventure park, it's right south of the minnesota state fair speedway
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:58pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5799 of 5805) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? Is that the one with the big statues? Isn't that a private park?
The_Rock401 - (PFID:4d9c81a3) - 09:58pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5800 of 5805) This hunt is smelling more and more like Phalen. Not only is it overdue (21 years and counting), but the "take your honey for a ride" could hint at the SPWC sleigh and cutter rally at Phalen. Bouncing ball is the golf course. The fairgrounds are not owned by St. Paul, Ramsey County, or the state, although one could argue whether it's a park. Adventure Park is the block with all the big extreme rides during the fair (the Ejection Seat, Skyscraper, etc.). Just a block of sod the rest of the year. Would the St. Paul campus of the U of M be a legal hiding spot? That is public land, and in Ramsey County. As for the auto racing on the lake, it's on the slate for the weekend of February 7-8, but a location is TBD.
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 10:00pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5801 of 5805) No More Hedda Gabler Goulash! well- it was an elimination noodle. heh
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 10:01pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5802 of 5805) SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE there is no speedway, And I was kicked out of there years back no way its the fair. the fair is a waste of time
Violent J - (PFID:13d365) - 10:01pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5803 of 5805) The Flying Hamster of DOOM Rains Coconuts On Your Pitiful City! Duluth and Case is close to the earl stree bridge... and so is Margaret.. Why you thinkin bout that?
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 10:07pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5814 of 5828) Sam-I-am Is Phalen the one with the bus stop shaped like a U?? Someone said that earlier somewhere - but I can't remember if it's phalen or not!
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:08pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5816 of 5828) You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. Phalen I also like PHalen. East Side, West side... Wheelock Parkway goes right to it, and changes from East Wheelock to West Wheelock very near there. I like the beach too, and that the races are normally there.
Violent J - (PFID:13d365) - 10:08pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5817 of 5828) The Flying Hamster of DOOM Rains Coconuts On Your Pitiful City! that "was" phalen. the bus turnaround is gone now. they closed off the end of Forest, so you cant get through now.
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 10:14pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5824 of 5828) PLEASE HELP FIND DRU @ www.finddru.com I think this is the 1st clue relating to area. I think the previous ones told us it was in a park, and hidden in a green cellphone. (box or case or maybe a empty shell to a cell phone ).
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 10:18pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5832 of 5848) Sam-I-am OK - so Phalen fits (for me) this way... Go You look in an area park (out of saint paul) go to the U (u-turn?) or maybe a Uturn into the past - since it hasn't been there for a while, or maybe even --- since the ice trucks Kept going in u turns from phalen to palace - phalen to palace to build the IP. I still think clue #2 - only tells us it's in something green-- I am really liking my greenbay idea though... Quite clever device - the stuff to take the ice out of the lake - beware the hole in the lake - beware false advice = false (adv) ICE?? Help me - we helped build the palace = DAY AND NIGHT SHIFTS!!!!
Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 10:20pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5834 of 5848) Hey Snake, StarLightWBL! I am taking this clue literally. Sandstone!!!
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 10:20pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5835 of 5848)
<--- Creepiest avatar yet. Sandstone==BC in my book.
Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 10:22pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5839 of 5848) Yeah Frosti. I think this is a park clue, not a location clue. If it is at BC, I think it is going to be really far away from the sandstone.
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 10:29pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5846 of 5848)
<--- Creepiest avatar yet. Y??? I got nothing pointing me to Phalen. I could make it work if I really wanted to: Emerald Isle: Little island in phalen where the ice palace was Help me: lifeguards all is fair: can see the fairway of the golf course east side, west side: wheelock stony/sandy: beach & rock walls Voila! Phalen, zone 3. But in my heart, I don't buy it.
Artemis The Huntress - (PFID:13d315) - 10:39pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5855 of 5855) Still searching... The bouncing ball could refer to the orange(?) balls going acroos the river on a highwire (used for navigation?) at Hidden Falls. Or it could refer to Tennis or basketball. It reminds me of a sing-along song though- follow the bouncing ball....
Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 10:44pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5857 of 5857) thinking recreational kind of ball, or something with more movement than the hidden falls navagational balls. Those navagational balls have also already been used in a hunt. It was a much hated clue. I like your idea of basketball and tennis. Those were along the lines of my thought. The possibilities are endless tho.
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 10:59pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5865 of 5865) www.finddru.com Did any of the old Hamms beer commercials use that "follow the bouncing ball" type ad compaigns?
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 11:07pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5870 of 5888) I think the Hamm's comercials did, but there are no parks near the brewery really. Wilder isn't far, that Helen Wilda park. Sweede Hollow is closed to my knowlege for Phalen Blvd. But it's an intresing idea. The walls at phalen what are they made of, Sandstone or limestone? Also wheelock Pky turns from East to West at Rice street. That's like over a mile away from Phalen.
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 11:22pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5871 of 5888) www.finddru.com Como Park (ick) is the home of the new Hamms beer statue though
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 11:23pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5872 of 5888) www.finddru.com They are made of Limestone
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 11:25pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5873 of 5888) www.finddru.com The statue is a bear. I may have to go look up some of the old Hamms commercials and see
leelabell - (PFID:13d2de) - 11:28pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5875 of 5888) Jay Benanav convinced folks on the city council to not put the Hamms Bear at Como. Has the city council changed its mind?
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 11:31pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5876 of 5888) www.finddru.com The Hamms bear is a 6ft. tall granite statue. The cartoon exploits helped burnish Minnesota's image as an unspoiled natural paradise, it says.
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 11:31pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5877 of 5888) You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. I was just looking at mapquest... THer is a Day road that goes for about 1 block on the north end of Keller Park (just north of Phalen).. Any time, any day....
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 12:46am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5889 of 5893) www.finddru.com No Hamms bear at Como. They must have voted it out. It looked soooo promising I had cut the article and stuck it in my HUGE homemade clue book. Now I will have to take it out...........poor bear
Artemis The Huntress - (PFID:13d315) - 12:55am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5893 of 5893) Still searching... Come one, come all, ever following the bouncing ball Todd (our bouncer) thinks this clue refers to the State fair. The rides, the new race track.Didn't they use a bouncing ball and the phrase "come one come all" in their advertisements?
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 08:14am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5925 of 6349) My first impression on the bouncing ball was like your singing along with the words on the bottom of the screen. Not sure what that could refer to? A song? Keroke (sp?)? I heard somewhere else the old Hamm's comercials had a bouncing ball (I actualy remember seeing old comercials like that too). That's the interesting theroies on that I've heard
MinnesotaVixen - (PFID:4d9c820b) - 08:16am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5926 of 6349) Bouncing Golf Ball?
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 08:34am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5928 of 6349) BrinG iT oN!! :-) Any thoughts on cherokee? Sioux Bee Honey: Cherokee?
BlockHead - (PFID:4d9c7ea3) - 08:39am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5931 of 6349) Those Medalling Kids... Hey gramma, who had a bouncy ball TV show? Before remotes,had to get off the couch, to click Mitch Millers bouncy ball sing along stuff off.
the oysterking - (PFID:4d9c836e) - 08:59am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5933 of 6349) think of all the red and nater stuff i could buy  b a wild guess well lets guess midway stadium again someone guesses that every year
THX 1138 - (PFID:13d2c9) - 09:01am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5934 of 6349) If you mentioned my name to almost anyone from my school, all you'd get is a "huh?" or a dumb look in response
Well, Midway stadium could be considered a "Park".
GreenTeam - (PFID:2fce43ba) - 09:07am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5936 of 6349) Something greenCould the clue about looking for something green refer to Forest Street at Phalen?
MyTurn14 - (PFID:2fce445a) - 09:09am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5937 of 6349) My turn to find the thing heres a little stretch. For those thinking outside saint paul, east side west side take your honey for a ride. saint paul is basically split in two, the east side and the west side,and it might be saying "saint paul, take your car(honey) for a ride", meaning outside of saint paul.
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 09:32am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5939 of 6349) Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on! An Idea I had was the"west side" of st Paul is really on the East side but is called that cuz its on the west side of the Mississippi. So If you can build on this thought let me kno0w
me2 - (PFID:13d2d2) - 09:33am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5941 of 6349) "The blue ones take me to first, the yellow to second, the brown ones to third, and the green?...they get me a hooooooooooooome run!" so with that east side west side thought it places you at Cherokee?
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 09:35am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5942 of 6349) Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on! Maybee or Baker, Belvedere,or El Rio Vista
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 10:04am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5945 of 6349) I'm thinking clues #3-#4 are telling us it's basicly not in st paul it's neither hear= eastside nor there= west side any thoughts
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 10:10am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5947 of 6349) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. The Maplewood side of Battle Creek is on the West side of Maplewood, but it's the East side of the park.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 10:20am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5953 of 6349) Come ONE, Come ALL, EVER FOLLOWING THE BOUNCING BALL. One-All is a tennis score...
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 10:25am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5957 of 6349) This year we're gonna find it! Just heard on WCCO radio that the medallion is not hidden on the State Fair grounds and they would like people to stay off of the grounds.
THX 1138 - (PFID:13d2c9) - 10:43am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5964 of 6349) If you mentioned my name to almost anyone from my school, all you'd get is a "huh?" or a dumb look in response
tennis scores are 15 love etc
I was talking to a buddy at work that's a big tennis freak, and he said they would only say One-all if there was a tie one game to one game, but not in scoring points in the actual game.
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 10:43am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5966 of 6349) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. One-All is a tennis score... I don't think it is. It could be 15 all, or 30 all, or 30 love, but you never score just one. I think "Come one, come all" is something a barker might say, and barker may refer to dogs. I'm not convinced of it, but I don't have a better idea. Also, the clue reads like it's talking about a spectator sport if it really is referring to a sport. You wouldn't have peope gathering around to watch a tennis game in a park. So I'm inclined to say the bouncing ball isn't a sports reference. My best guess is that dogs are always chasing bouncing balls.
The_Rock401 - (PFID:4d9c81a3) - 10:43am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5967 of 6349) Auto racing is still on the slate of Winter Carnival events. Take your honey for a ride could be a nod to the sleigh and cutter rally (see Jingle Bells) at Phalen. I'm thinking somewhere not far from the clubhouse, over by where that pseudo-island is with all the bridges and picnic tables.
Allison read this link...especially near the bottom of the first page
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 10:49am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5970 of 6370) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. Allison read this link...especially near the bottom of the first page Well, perhaps so. Still, it doesn't sound right that "Come one, come all" would refer to a variant method of tennis scoring.
grn_i_grl - (PFID:2fce3e48) - 10:52am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5971 of 6370) It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others oh I dont know if thats a valid idea I was just pointing out that the tennis part is right
maureen hursey - (PFID:2fce4385) - 11:00am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5976 of 6370) I think clue 4 means east and west side people going out for a drive and it's only a stones through away, Maybe
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 11:04am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5978 of 6370) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? A movie just started on A & E about a monkey named Archie! lol
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 11:05am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5980 of 6370) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 it is the year of the monkey
Fast Eddie - (PFID:4d9c8231) - 11:08am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5983 of 6370) Facts of the CaseBoy this discussion board is hard to read! First of all the "medallion" is in a PARK, it's not at the fairgrounds or under an overpass or at the ramsey county fairgrounds. IT'S AT A PARK Second- it's not in an Irish Spring Soap Box, it's just not, get over it. they don't put in the same thing twice. and even if it is who cares, you still have to find that box third- it's NOT at the fairgrounds 4th- it's not in a green cell phone (how do you get green cell phone from Emerald Isle and Prank or clever device. My god 5th- it's in a PARK in Ramsey County Now for my opinion- I think it is in park that is in ramsey county but not in saint paul. probably a smaller park with decent but not great parking. the key this year is to figure out the park then finding the puck should be easier. this damn thing would have been found by now if people would just go out to a few parks near there house and see if they can make any of the clues fit. instead we sit in these damn chatrooms. The fact is your not going to find it on the internet, it's going be found by somebody freezing their nuggets out and who can think outside the box...NO not an irish spring soap box just needed to get that off my chest
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 11:17am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5988 of 6370) Are there any parks directly between E 7th St. and W. 7th St?
GreenTeam - (PFID:2fce43ba) - 12:11pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6020 of 6370) How about Como?It would seem like a prank to have it at Como again. East and West picnic areas. A stone bridge. A trolley and a carousel to ride. What say ye?
brassmonkey - (PFID:4d9c8251) - 12:16pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6023 of 6370) Avid hunter of 20 years Ever bouncing ball!! How about the old game PING PONG on video screens. It was a ball that went back and forth across the screen. Black and white of course. Usually found at arcades in the 70's Hence arcade street. Is this a stretch???
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 12:22pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6029 of 6399) Well, nothing really "gives it away".... (Im usually way off, I look into it more than I should, I think) Reference to prattle and bark~ The Humane Society... Reference to green as the Emerald Isle~ Golf Course? "All is fair"~ Carousel and rides Bouncing ball~ Golf course, again Stony and Sandy~ Areas near the lake itself Take your honey for a ride~ (this one is a stretch) The water doohickies that people ride on the lake East Side and West side, as mentioned before, the picnic areas. But hell, I dont know. I also thought at one time that Emerald Isle was a reference to a beach in North Carolina. (lol)
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 12:22pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6030 of 6399) This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne. East and west could just be telling us that it is somewhere with a path that goes all the way around the park?? I don't know, that's kind of a stretch.
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 12:33pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6041 of 6399) East and West could also mean sides of Lexington. Ok I have to stop thinking for a little while. My head hurts. Happy hunting kids. See you later.
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 12:48pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6048 of 6399) I saw someone note too bad there isn't an east and west shore drive at Phalen. If you know your history you wouldn't think that.....
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 12:52pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6052 of 6399) I think I've got it McCarron ParkHey all, Well, I didn't have time to run over and check this out but I will later tonight......If you look at the map of Ramsey County http://www.co.ramsey.mn.us/parks/maps/index.asp
you will see that Lake McCarron is right in the center between the east and west borders of Ramsey County. McCarron is an Irish name, the park is located partly in roseville and partly in Maplewood, there is a beach and play area, Wheelock Pkwy is to the south a couple of blocks and the park is on Center Street on the north side. I havent been there for awhile so I don't remember all the details but it would be worth a trip over to scout it out...........What do ya'll think? Peace.
brassmonkey - (PFID:4d9c8251) - 01:00pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6062 of 6399) Avid hunter of 20 years So was there at one point in time a EAST and WEST Shore Drive at Phalen?????
brassmonkey - (PFID:4d9c8251) - 01:08pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6071 of 6399) Avid hunter of 20 years You know a swift is also commonly known as a hummingbird
SnowJester - (PFID:2fce4437) - 01:14pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6072 of 6399) ok, well slogging only took me 1 hour so that's good. now i have 10 minutes to chat! The clue-writer assumes that everyone who participates reads the PP. I'm not saying that we all do, but the information found in there is fair game. They talk about the message boards in articles written about the hunt, both before it starts and after it's over. This year, they discussed the Archie comic in the Winter Carnival special. I don't think it's out of line for them to reference the message boards because even if you don't participate in them, you (should) know about their existence. Therefore: Clue #3 is about us.
the oysterking - (PFID:4d9c836e) - 01:18pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6076 of 6399) think of all the red and nater stuff i could buy a swift and a humming bird are 2 different birds
Diggin'4_it_Again - (PFID:4d9c76e4) - 01:25pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6080 of 6399) Just keep diggin' just keep diggin' just keep diggin' diggin' diggin' Regarding McCarrons ParkI also was thinking about that, did you know there is a new "JOES" SportsStore just north of MacCarrons on Rice...(clue 1) Joe
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 01:26pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6081 of 6399) HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe......... I think it could be in a tennis ball >> due to the green clue and follow the bouncing ball............perhaps?
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 02:20pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6114 of 6435) Yes, to brassmonkey and all ye other non-history buffs, acording to my map of St Paul from 1973 there indeed was a West Shore Dr. The old Steel bridge is all that remins of it, outside memories... I also know one of the reasons they took it out was because of problems with teens racing cars around the lake. The end of West shore Dr. ended that practice, but then gave more seculted park space for the drug dealers of the 80's. Oops I'm leaning towards Phalen or BC still, though McCaron sounds very intresting....
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 02:50pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6122 of 6435) Dear Mr./Ms. Lurking Clue Police Writer/Writers: I do not give bad advice. I give "green" advice. Big difference. I give the best/most I can with what I get from what little you give. Ittiz not bad advice - ittiz "green" advice. I am not the coldest pop in The Cooler, but I do the best I can. Otay? Otay! That said... I knew in PE I kept score with "One-All" and I thought it was tennis. And I really thought "tennis." Really. But then sitting at a stop light on the way home, not even thinking about anything, I spit out: "VOLLEYBALL!!!" It was volleybally in PE that we'd say the score "One-All" - not tennis! Never did like tennis. Didn't like volleyball either, for that matter, but that's not here nor there... So! There! There's your one-all/bouncing ball in a sandy place. WHEW! I feel better! Snot gonna arrest me, are you??????
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 03:46pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6130 of 6435) OK I went to google and typed in emerald isle and lake phalen it will bring up the article if you want to look. VERY INTERSTING
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 03:49pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6132 of 6435) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? I found a 28 page document when I did that. Should I read it?
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 03:50pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6134 of 6435) I have been trying it is very long but it does say lake phalen and something about it being named emerald isle I am going to take another look at it
The Map Guy - (PFID:13d404) - 03:53pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6136 of 6435) How 'bout a Map? www.treasurehunt.8m.com I was thinking about the 3rd clue an hour ago, and if it has anything to do with the Treasure Hunters' Guide, it could only be refering to the last page in the guide. Its the only place that I give advice about where to hunt....so...maybe its going to be near something that can electrocute you?
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 04:01pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6151 of 6442) Ya know... if I remember right.. by the volley ball courts there is a power pole that has a light on it for nighttime ball playing... and it's in the sand I believe. The Map Guy - (PFID:13d404) - 03:55pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6140 of 6442) How 'bout a Map? www.treasurehunt.8m.com Actually....I'm brainstorming now....it could be buried, not in the soil, but in the sand????? That's IT!!!
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 03:59pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6147 of 6442) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? What I'm reading says that historians, many from the Emerald Isle, had a meeting somewhere on the shores of Lake Phalen.
maureen hursey - (PFID:2fce4385) - 05:50pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6195 of 6442) Clever device, but beware false advice. Could mean lie detector. My spelling is not the best.
Scribe - (PFID:13d2ca) - 05:52pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6197 of 6442) KILL IT! LETS MAKE A HAT OUTTOV IT! LETS COOK IT AND EAT IT! I think we are on the "clever device" Maureen...could mean all the standard rules we have deduced from the past hunts do not apply this year...
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 07:30pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6287 of 6482) I think I've got it McCarron Park tourHey, I just got back from my little jaunt to check out McCarron. HMMMMMM.......I don't know, it is pretty small....but this is what I found: There is an off leash dog area right to the south of McCarron lake called Woodview open area. ther is also a park right to the east called Tamarack park. On January 31st, there is a winter carnival softball on ice tourney on the lake all day 8-4. There are no tennis courts or ball fields there. There is a store called Twin city motors across Rice st.from the park. Both Larpenteur ave and Wheelock Pkwy are called ave W on the west side of Rice St. and Ave E. on the east side of Rice st. I found that a little bit interesting. You can see a map of the area with the off leash dog park at http://www.co.ramsey.mn.us/parks/maps/images/Woodview.gif
I dont know what to think. Maybe the clue tonight will help narrow it down. I think that Battle Creek is a great fit as well, but as others have said, We need to be careful not to read too deeply into the clues.......every line does not have a meaning. What do you all think?
Artemis The Huntress - (PFID:13d315) - 09:27pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6375 of 6482) Still searching... not sure if this has been mentioned or not (not done slogging) but before the next clue comes out I thought I'd mention it--stoney and sandy could refer to kids playground and rocky areas around trees and shrubs etc.
DEER HUNTER - (PFID:4d9c7a8c) - 09:36pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6395 of 6482) IT'S IN COMO BABBY BACK TO BACK?
jusme - (PFID:2fce4281) - 09:39pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6398 of 6482) 1st thought, Hidden Falls, by Casey's strip club ??? The girls love to dance
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 09:40pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6401 of 6482) I once caught a fish this Big! Yep! Go to the place, It's no disgrace Where the girls shall be happy to dance Don't look in the rough, but if you want the stuff You may have to get dirt on your pants. And a big note from the PP: In response to phone and e-mail inquiries received by State Fair officials from the public, the Pioneer Press announced Wednesday that the Treasure Hunt medallion is not hidden at the Minnesota State Fairgrounds.
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:41pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6402 of 6482) Lurk No More! Kellar GC?
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:46pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6412 of 6482) This year we're gonna find it! Elementary school boys don't like to dance.
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 09:48pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6420 of 6482) I think I've got it Keller Golf course I think this clue leads to the park by Keller golf course....the clubhouse is nice and has a lot of wedding receptions and there is a golf course right there. I drove by it when I was looking at McCarron and printed out the map. There is a frisbe Ave on one end and Arcade street runs right in front of the golf course.
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 09:50pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6424 of 6482) You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. Gladys And Sherlock -- There is also a short street (like a block) on the north end called Day Road. Hmmm..
The_Rock401 - (PFID:4d9c81a3) - 09:50pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6425 of 6482) Amen to that. "Don't look in the rough": Golf course park, but not on the course itself. "Girls shall be happy to dance": Were there any ballrooms or nightclubs around either Phalen or McCarron? Or how about a bandstand or live music stage?
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:51pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6430 of 6482) I can crack a code from a DVD on Mars that's 10 million miles away, but I can't find a little plastic puck in my neighborhood! Phalen has an outdoor ampitheater
Sleepless In CG - (PFID:2fce43d4) - 09:51pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6432 of 6482) Sounds like it will be down low, but what about the dance? (Guess this got posted real slow!)
medallionis venator - (PFID:2fce35cd) - 09:52pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6435 of 6482) ohh great.... now we will have people ripping up the grass and digging way down deep :(--we should have a pool entitled "which park will be banned from next years hunt" --my five dollar pick is Cherokee. FYI- this clue kinda sounds like a reference to a song by Queen doesnt it?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:54pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6437 of 6482) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? Or Abba
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 09:54pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6438 of 6482) This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne. Gladys - ANYONE is happy to dance at a wedding reception...why just girls? And why would a wedding reception be a disgrace?
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 09:57pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6440 of 6482) I think I've got it There is also a Keller Island picnic area that has a little bridge that crosses the water....I have golfed there a lot and it would be a great place to hide the medalion.
medallionis venator - (PFID:2fce35cd) - 09:58pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6442 of 6482) and... I was kinda thinking that "jugghead" could be the top of some kind of container as well :)-cap
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:06pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6457 of 6482) "Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?" This may be a far stretch but didn't Casy Jone's TV show have the music where you followed along with the bouncing ball?? I remembered that last night and I even went and looked up the Casey Jones History on the wesite and all. Wow what a trip down memory lane. Any way Joe Souecery(sp?) made mention that this sure wasn't my "father's kind of treasure hunt. Then they started referencing things to the past. Jughead and Archie, possibly the East Side West Side song and I thought of Casey Jones with the follow the bouncing ball? Any thoughts
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:08pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6459 of 6482) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? Casey did Happy Happy Birthday and Dancing in My Winter Underwear. Any other? Oh yeah, I Love Onions. lol
medallionis venator - (PFID:2fce35cd) - 10:08pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6461 of 6482) one thing bothers me here about this clue....the rules say search and dont destroy but yet this clue says 'dirt on your pants" this tells me there is some type of word games going on in these clues
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:09pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6462 of 6482) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 casey Jones he just died too
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 10:09pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6463 of 6482) I can crack a code from a DVD on Mars that's 10 million miles away, but I can't find a little plastic puck in my neighborhood! You don't have to destroy to get dirt on your pants, shoot, just take a walk through the woods and that'll happen
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 10:09pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6464 of 6482) This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne. MV - or you have to crawl to get to the location...
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:10pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6466 of 6482) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 'dirt on your pants" maybe 'cause it was hidden/written before the snow?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:11pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6468 of 6482) "Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?" but didn't they have the bouncing ball so the little kids could follow along with the words or was that Clancy and Willie Ketchem and Carmen the nurse?
Onstar - (PFID:4d9c82c7) - 10:12pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6470 of 6482) dirt on pants, baseball fields-sliding... it doesn't mean dig the dirt and destroy
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 10:12pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6471 of 6482) I can crack a code from a DVD on Mars that's 10 million miles away, but I can't find a little plastic puck in my neighborhood! so what could they mean by disgrace if it's not a strip club reference?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:13pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6473 of 6482) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? Yes, I think they did. Been a long time. My kids used to watch it.
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 10:17pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6482 of 6482) I think I've got it Go to the Place it is no disgrace could just mean that it has a good reputation......like, Keller golf course is a place that people like to golf and the wedding receptions are a little pricier than some other places. I think the girls shall be happy to dance might just mean that a girl's wedding day is suppose to be the happiest day of her life.....Wherever it is, I think that part might be talking about a golf course clubhouse.
jusme - (PFID:2fce4281) - 10:18pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6484 of 6501) one part of yesterdays clue made me think of that also, swift.....the river is Swift
circusgirl - (PFID:2fce4237) - 10:18pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6485 of 6501) um...I don't think Hidden Falls is that close to Caseys. Crosby Farm is though
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:19pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6486 of 6501) You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. Thoght on Hidden falls... There is West 7th and East RIver road.. would make a nice drive.
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 10:22pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6488 of 6501) This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne. Well I definitely think it's at a park with a golf course and they just threw in "don't look in the rough" to make sure people don't go on the course. why else would they tell you not to look somewhere? Everywhere else in the park is fair game...
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:23pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6489 of 6501) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 "don't look in the rough" can relate to brushy areas of the park
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:28pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6494 of 6501) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 come one come all could that reference shepard road come sheepy sheepy? highway joe
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 10:30pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6496 of 6501) HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe......... Does anyone else think there could be an issue with "Where the girls shall be happy to dance," and its political correctness? for some reason I don't think it can be generalized...
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:31pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6497 of 6501) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? Me either noname. It's an important clue.
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 10:33pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6498 of 6501) SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE Lamplighter girls dance and get naked
vex - (PFID:4d9c85a8) - 10:33pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6499 of 6501) I hate to say it but como has a pavilion where they have dancing. You can also see the green roof of the clubhouse from that area
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:38pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6504 of 6513) "Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?" true about the political correctness of the dance clue--I don't think the PP would want to endorse that-- another thing about the Casey Jones thing-- this could be neither here nor there-ha-but both he and Roundhouse Rodney graduated from MaCalester college and Casey's first sidekick was Joe the Cook
vex - (PFID:4d9c85a8) - 10:40pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6507 of 6513) Isn't Casey's closed now?
medallionis venator - (PFID:2fce35cd) - 10:41pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6508 of 6513) seriously now... after some thought behind this clue i came up with COMO!!! my reasoning is... clue 4 sounded like some lyrics from a Queen song and the mentioning of the word 'disgrace' in this clue suggests to me its a church for some reason(Churchill and Queen?) hmmmm gives the street that divides the East and West part of Como near the Pavalion. just a thought here.... hiya marly!!
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 10:41pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6510 of 6513) This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne. Maybe it refers to Deja Vu strip club in minneapolis...we'd be having Deja Vu if it was at Como again, only this time they are saying it's not in the woods!! hahaha, good night all.
toomuch - (PFID:4d9c8569) - 10:42pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6512 of 6513) Casey's connection deserves some thought though maybe a reach however one can not discredit it as bad taste,,,,,,,, last years clue involved murder and decit with Carpentuer
BADDS - (PFID:4d9c7dfa) - 10:43pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6513 of 6513) Yes, it is closed
BADDS - (PFID:4d9c7dfa) - 10:52pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6526 of 6560) I hate COMO!! but the girls dance thing could also mean by a dance studio or you can see that in site..
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 11:10pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6539 of 6560) "Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?" McGlynn's doughnut bags are emerald green and white-what the med. is hidden in
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 11:14pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6540 of 6560) SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE lamplighter by mcarrons
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 11:16pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6542 of 6560) I think I've got it The Queen song We are the Champions is often sung at Baseball games, it was played at the "91" world series when the Twins won.
medallionis venator - (PFID:2fce35cd) - 11:19pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6544 of 6560) The doughnut theory.... lets see if I were a little squirrel i probaly would scamper to my nest with that bag. enough said :)
maureen hursey - (PFID:2fce4385) - 11:21pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6546 of 6560) GS, O.K. Tony S. Park
wrightwinger - (PFID:20a32cc6) - 11:34pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6550 of 6560) WORST CLUES SINCE LAST YEAR EVER! ahhhhhhhhhh!!! its the frog pond!!!!
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:21pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7068 of 7077) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? Looks like we'd better find a deer stand somewhere!
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:23pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7072 of 7077) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? Sounds like Robin Hood and his band of merry men to me
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:25pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7074 of 7077) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? Are they talking about Boreas's defeat? Where do they hold that?
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:26pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7076 of 7077) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street think the new clue says something about boreas
SNAKE88 - (PFID:4d9c6c9e) - 09:27pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7078 of 7095) THE NEW MEDALLIONATOR dont aim low=high land?
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:27pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7082 of 7095) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street think its somewhere high
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:28pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7083 of 7095) "This noodlin's driving me bananas!" I don't think you usually stand up in a deer stand though do you? Aren't hunters mostly sitting and waiting patiently?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:28pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7083 of 7095) "This noodlin's driving me bananas!" I don't think you usually stand up in a deer stand though do you? Aren't hunters mostly sitting and waiting patiently?
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:28pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7084 of 7095) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street the new clue is talking about an ariel view?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:29pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7085 of 7095) "This noodlin's driving me bananas!" There is that area that is used for archery at Phalen
maureen hursey - (PFID:2fce4385) - 09:31pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7094 of 7095) O.K. The first battle DANCE! That turned into WHAT!
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 09:31pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7095 of 7095) I once caught a fish this Big! Boreas is dethroned in Kellogg Park
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:32pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7096 of 7103) "This noodlin's driving me bananas!" And there is a big fire ring on the walk over there-if you are coming from the beach area it would be a long walk over there-steady on your feet
brassmonkey - (PFID:4d9c8251) - 09:33pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7097 of 7103) Avid hunter of 20 years I think he is talking about robin hood and the sherwood forest. There is a sherwood street that runs into Phalen
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 09:37pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7104 of 7106) HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe......... BM--- I was thinking the same thing..... somehow, i don't even remember now, I picked up another sherwood reference in an earlier clue... I'm not quite ruling out HF yet. Maybe you're aiming for Fort Snelling across the river and preparing for the coming defeat.
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 09:37pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7105 of 7106) Isn't the place where the ice palace was at Phalen up by that old waterfall??
dm144 - (PFID:2fce43cf) - 09:43pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7117 of 7122) At least I found Nemo! coming defeat = failing = Phalen
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:46pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7121 of 7122) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? I know it ruins the rhyme, but could bow mean a bow that you play a violin or cello with? Ordway? Rice Park?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:48pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7123 of 7123) "This noodlin's driving me bananas!" steady on your feet=sure footed=sher(wood)
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 09:48pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7124 of 7135) I don't think so OT... because it was worded different... when the said don't aim low.. it's gotta be a bow and arrow.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:49pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7125 of 7135) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? I'm just isolating the word. Not worrying about the rhyme or whatever right now. Just a thought.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:49pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7126 of 7135) "This noodlin's driving me bananas!" aim for the center? middle between Keller and Phalen?
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 09:50pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7128 of 7135) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 aim for the center? middle between Keller and Phalen?would be neither there nor here
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 09:51pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7129 of 7135) Representing the MidWest What about Cherokee park?The HIGHbride is right next to it off of smith ave
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:51pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7130 of 7135) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street cherokee? its on a cliff (high)
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:52pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7135 of 7210) Brain after too much noodlin' what is the story of the battle at Battle Creek? Anyone?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:54pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7136 of 7210) Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline? Someone posted earlier that the Ojibwe and Dakota battled there. 1842 I think they said.
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 09:54pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7137 of 7210) You Know It's Cold Out When It's Warmer In Your Deep Freezer! what about take your bow, as in bowing at the end of a performance?
maureen hursey - (PFID:2fce4385) - 09:54pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7138 of 7210) Bow is also boyfriend, just like your honey!
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:55pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7139 of 7210) Brain after too much noodlin' could be a play on words Bow as in take a bow or bow as in bow and arrow--fiery band could be a band with afiery fiddle player like Charlie Daniel's band--didn't they defeat the devil in that song?
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 09:56pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7140 of 7210) In order to understand the celebrations, you first have to understand the community. The boyfriend type of bow would be beau.
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 09:56pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7141 of 7210) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 the Lakota Band of Sioux resided where Battle Creek Park is until they were forced to move from the East side of the Mississippi to the West side of the river because of flooding. East Side West Side.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:01pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7159 of 7210) Brain after too much noodlin' yeah Mikey and Allison referenced the "honey wagon" take your honey for a ride, the honey wagon used to go around and collect raw sewage and take it to Pigs Eye near Battle Creek
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:08pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7166 of 7210) Brain after too much noodlin' aim could= point Point Douglas road Firey could =Burns Ave???
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:12pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7174 of 7210) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 Keller Archery Range The Keller archery range is located in the Golfview picnic area section of Keller Regional Park in Maplewood. Enter the Golfview site from northbound Highway 61, just north of Roselawn Avenue. The site is entirely fenced and contains 12 archery lanes with butts. Lengths of lanes vary from 10-40 yards. did not show pigs eye but it is real close by
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:16pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7176 of 7210) Brain after too much noodlin' Allison's thoughts on that stoney and sandy plce pertaining to Battle Creek is that the Honey Wagon hauled the raw sewage to Pigs Eye which was a stoney and sandy place
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:16pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7177 of 7210) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 I read on one of the regional parks pages that bc/mounds/pigs eye are all part of bc..just can't find the link now
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 10:20pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7186 of 7210) Representing the MidWest WowHow about Swede Hollow people? I just realised the clues fit there too
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 10:21pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7187 of 7210) "It's a small world after all." mrmnmikeyyes - i have the book "Parks & Public Places in Ramsey County" and that shows Battle Creek Regional Park containing the Battle Creek Unit (Ramsey County), Indian Mounds Unit (St. Paul) and Pig's Eye Lake Unit (Ramsey County).
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 10:21pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7188 of 7210) SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE prepare for the coming defeat... sounds like a battle to me
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 10:21pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7188 of 7210) SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE prepare for the coming defeat... sounds like a battle to me
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 10:22pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7192 of 7210) Representing the MidWest ... PHALEN creek runs right through there.....great view of REGIONS hospital...."Area park" Regional park. Hospital for help help too
Tootin4U - (PFID:4d9c812a) - 10:24pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7196 of 7231) by the way the past clues have gone i am really starting to like mounds park help me any time any day - the hospital nearby bouncing ball - tennis courts stony sandy - the bluffs no disgrace - indian burial mounds bow (as in arrow) - weapon those people used fiery - burns (that street goes through mounds as well as BC)
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 10:30pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7206 of 7231) 'Take a stand with fiery band and prepare for the coming defeat' Could mean its not at Como. (The large fire ring in the park)
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 10:34pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7209 of 7231) I think I've got it Central ParkOK, this is probably a long shot but here goes.....anyone thought about Central Park in Roseville? The skating oval is right across the street where there are many figure skating clubs and the main police department for Roseville. There is baseball, sand volleyball, tennis, hockey and an amphitheater.......there are also bike paths all the way around the park and there is a section for rollerblading......(steady on your feet).......take your bow, don't aim low = Central. Take a stand with your fiery band (bandstand)........Oh boy...one more place to think about....I think maybe it is hidden in the sand of the volleyball courts which would make one's pants dirty.??????
GuyUpNorth - (PFID:2fce450d) - 10:38pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7215 of 7231) Is there a wall-mart near central park? "come one come all ever following the bouncing ball" They are talking about that little yellow happy thing!
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 10:38pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7216 of 7231) Central Park? Didnt the Vulcans just play hockey there the other night?
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Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 10:38pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7217 of 7231) Lurk No More! Glayds...I really like your thinking, excellent noodling...I too am convinced it is a park outside St Paul...Keller seems like as a good a fit as any...I like your argument for Central Park...."follow the bouncing ball"=lottery...Roseville is the home of the MN lottery....
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 10:39pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7220 of 7231) Representing the MidWest Okbow= beaumont st sand = beech st west east = west and east 7 st This is for Swede Hollow
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 10:46pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7231 of 7231) Representing the MidWest How bout this?Help me!you say. "Any time. Any day. It's neither here nor there." A quite clever device, but beware false advice. Prank? Perhaps. All is fair. A Bluff? Dayton's Bluff Park?
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 10:49pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7235 of 7272) Lurk No More! Central Park is divided into "Central Park West" and "Central Park East"=east side, west side....I becoming a believer!
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 10:51pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7239 of 7272) SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE off fairview and county rd B2
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:51pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7240 of 7272) Brain after too much noodlin' honey=County B2(Bee)
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:54pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7246 of 7272) Brain after too much noodlin' Roseville High School is nearby books=doughnut in the Archie comic being found in library
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 10:55pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7247 of 7272) Maybe the Fiery Band means the firestation one block away from the park
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 11:20pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7258 of 7272) www.finddru.com Central Park also has a band shell = dancing????
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 11:56pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7261 of 7272) Wow, everyone must be asleep! Too much cold I guess. I have a park I looked at today: Island Lake Park in shoreview. It fits all the clues and is located off of VICTORIA ST.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 12:30am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7265 of 7272) Really? bike path all around - golf course -- volleyball and baseball -- big celebration every summer with a fair -- waterskiing championships in the summer -- YMCA on the West side of the golf course where girls have dance classes -- Lake Johanna fire station right next to the park -- Island Lake school right on the south side where there is a library -- rollerblading steady on the feet? --lots of different bands play in the park in the summer???????????????? MEHHHHH
SNAKE88 - (PFID:4d9c6c9e) - 12:32am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7266 of 7272) THE NEW MEDALLIONATOR im up for any park outside of st. paul...anyone check out evergreen???
SNAKE88 - (PFID:4d9c6c9e) - 12:37am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7269 of 7272) THE NEW MEDALLIONATOR clue 1: "area" park=roseville area clue 2: in something green or "evergreen" as in evergreen park clue 3: help me you say anytime anyday=church directly accross the st. Clever advice, etc= Clearly broken air raid siren in the park clue 4: take your honey for a ride=county rd "B" (as in honey b)-bouncing ball=b.ball, tennis, etc. clue 5: golf course near by. roseville danceline (state champs 4 of last 5 yrs)
SNAKE88 - (PFID:4d9c6c9e) - 12:39am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7271 of 7272) THE NEW MEDALLIONATOR located on the corner of county rd B and Fiarview
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 07:28am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7290 of 7962) Has non one noticed yet that they are strating to spell out battle in this last clue if # 7 comes out with Capital E or L in the first lines we have a for sure park any thoughts
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 08:45am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7296 of 7962) Still going with dualities... Bow: Archery/Indians - BC Don't go too low - either referring to Lower Afton, or too high up the ski hill (where the archery thighys are placed). Be steady on your feet - either the ski area 'below' Lower Afton; or the ski hill over by the volleyball, the Swift bicycles, etc. What's a "fiery band on a stand"? What's a fire ring on a stand? Well, if you go too close to those firey bands on stands, your goose is cooked because you will be defeated (meaning you'll be going in the wrong direction and/or too far from The Med.) My two cents, and ittiz free! :D
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 09:18am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7299 of 7962) I did a typo... Be steady on your feet - either the ski area 'below' Lower Afton; or the ski hill over by the volleyball, the Swift bicycles, etc. should read: Be steady on your feet - either the ski area 'below' UPPER Afton; or the ski hill over by the volleyball, the Swift bicycles, etc. Sorry. Getting a titch xicted and getting LOTS O'SPARKLIES!!!!
Tootin4U - (PFID:4d9c812a) - 11:29am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7365 of 7962) heres an idea, fiery band and bow are the charlie daneils band in the devil went down to georgia, does anyone have a hudson to see if there are any streets having to do with georgia, cotton, charlie daniels?
Stew - (PFID:4d9c8210) - 11:55am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7396 of 7964) Speaking of ride... anyone know the route that the bicycle club is taking on the 14th? I know that is starts from the Perkins just off I-35W on County Road D, but where does it go from there? ... and yes I believe that this ride is free :)
dignstuff - (PFID:4d9c85f1) - 12:11pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7407 of 7964) No beer and No Medallion make Homer something, something ... The Twin Cities Bicycling Club has a ride on 2/14 called the "Take Your Honey for a Ride", and it starts near Tony Schmidt park, however nobody has been able to confirm if it actually starts there or like at some Perkins near there.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 12:13pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7409 of 7964) In order to understand the celebrations, you first have to understand the community. 14 SAT TAKE YOUR HONEY FOR A BIKE RIDE. B 15-30 miles. Depart at 11 AM from the Perkins just off I-35W on County Road D in New Brighton. What better way to spend Valentine’s Day than riding your bike with that special someone in your life? Or not! Either way dress warm and come out to play. Hot beverages and snacks at Perkins after the ride. (Map to start: http://zzzurn.com/maps/perkinsnb.html)Kate Kovar, 763-234-5180 daytime. http://www.mtn.org/tcbc/
wrightwinger - (PFID:20a32cc6) - 12:36pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7423 of 7964) Everybody to the limit!!! but has anyone come up with any dancing girls reference for phalen? the only working answer i've come up with is dejavu, refering to como. has to be something with better taste though I think...
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 12:38pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7424 of 7964) In order to understand the celebrations, you first have to understand the community. They offer belly dancing classes at North Dale Rec. Otherwise other things I've seen is dance line, Radio City Music Hall, ballet...but nothing seems exactly right.
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 01:25pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7468 of 8380) Makes sense. It must be somewhat hidden back there. I dont think Ive ever been to Island Lake Park... Ill have to check that one out.
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 01:27pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7469 of 8380) I think I've got it That is the lake that has all the waterskiing competitions in the summer and the park where there is a slice of shoreview which is a three day long carnival with lots of music and rides........It also has a bands in the park program in the summer
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 01:28pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7470 of 8380) I think I've got it Lots of parking, ball fields, golf course, volleyball courts etcc.......A fire station is on one end and Deluxe checking is right across the street
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 01:30pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7471 of 8380) I think I've got it Island Lake elementary school is on the south end of the park right next to Lake Johanna fire station
MyTurn14 - (PFID:2fce445a) - 02:26pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7491 of 8380) My turn to find the thing just found this as i was browsing in the dictionary. Thought it might be something Swift--NOUN: 1a. A cylinder on a carding machine. b. A reel used to hold yarn as it is being wound off.
MyTurn14 - (PFID:2fce445a) - 02:38pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7499 of 8380) My turn to find the thing any thoughts on band meaning rubber band or band also means a strip or something that ties together, or something like a band of marriage, something like that
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 05:07pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7539 of 8380) Did anyone think the first line from clue 4 could mean the park is on the East side of St. Paul and it's hidden on the west side of that Park?
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 09:46pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7745 of 8380) You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. Wintry crop? The ice they got from lake Phalen?
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 09:46pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7747 of 8380) Keep in Mind there's a Phalen Elementry School.
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:47pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7748 of 8380) Lurk No More! wet drop = "water fall" This is a good clue for hidden falls
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:47pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7749 of 8380) Brain after too much noodlin' wet drop Phalen where they cut out the ice block=wet drop fish murial on the wall
Juster - (PFID:2fce43bc) - 09:47pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7750 of 8380) There was a record size catch carp in Phalen a few years back. It made all the headlines.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:49pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7757 of 8380) Brain after too much noodlin' wet drop= holes left where they harvested they Wintery crop of ice blocks-yeah!! I,m liken' it!:)
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 09:49pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7759 of 8380) or the water park at Battle Creek park
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:49pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7760 of 8380) This year we're gonna find it! Creek as in Battle?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:50pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7762 of 8380) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat Or Phalen Creek?
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:52pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7770 of 8380) Lurk No More! wintry crop = the medallion, not necessarily the ice removed from Phalen
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 09:53pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7773 of 8380) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 fish hatchery at phalen and open water in the creek/catch and release
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 09:53pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7775 of 8380) There are Monster fish in the Mississippi River not far from Battle Creek.
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 09:54pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7777 of 8380) You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. i'm still not convinced of anything. I still see how this fits with SH (avoid a wet drop.. the steep drop down to the lower part of the park)... I drove by Central park in Rosedale earlier.. I still don't know.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:54pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7779 of 8380) Brain after too much noodlin' ok names of schools and team names in the area for battle?
T Hunter - (PFID:4d9c82b1) - 09:54pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7780 of 8380) Where is the Fish Hatchery at Phalen is that in Round lake?
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:54pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7782 of 8380) Lurk No More! monster fish are a schoolin' could refer to a school nearby with a mascot like "sharks" or "stingrays" or something else...
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 09:56pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7784 of 8380) I thought the DNR fish place was by Pigs eye lake.
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 09:56pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7787 of 8380) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 Where is the Fish Hatchery at Phalen is that in Round lake an old one is there
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 09:57pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7789 of 8380) Now how can feiry ring fit other then the fire pit at Phalen?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:57pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7790 of 8380) Brain after too much noodlin' SnowMommy the DNR has a fish hatchery just west of battle off 61 on the way to Pigs Eye
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:57pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7793 of 8380) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street fiery ring is most likely the firepits
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 09:58pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7795 of 8380) www.finddru.com I read that as a Band Stand.................Do they have a place where outdoor bands play???????????
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 09:59pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7796 of 8380) You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. fiery band. The park where they do the de-throne thing... brain not work now.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:59pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7797 of 8380) Brain after too much noodlin' Terry you think the first line is steering us away from battle, "Still up a creek?" as in wrong choice or troubled location?
jb2773 - (PFID:4d9c85a5) - 09:58pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7794 of 8380) there is no fish hatchery at phalen
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 10:00pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7800 of 8380) Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! I believe the park is confirmed as Phalen. Still up a creek could be steering folks away from BC...but the wintry crop has to be the ice blocks.
T Hunter - (PFID:4d9c82b1) - 10:01pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7803 of 8380) splitrock they have an Amphitheater
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:02pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7805 of 8380) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 there is no fish hatchery at phalentheres an old one by round lake and an old one on east shore drive. not used anymore
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 10:10pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7835 of 8380) HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe......... maybe "monster fish" means the mutated fish of the river
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 10:28pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7876 of 8380) Lurk No More! Monster fish could be refering to "pike" island near hidden falls and crosby.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:29pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7878 of 8380) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat I'm still cynical. This might be a prank. They might be teasing us with these clues, just as they said, and then bingo! It's at a different park. Just like last year with HI and Como.
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:29pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7880 of 8380) You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. if you google MONSTER FISH, the first site is about Muskie... I suppose most lakes in MN have them...
Juster - (PFID:2fce43bc) - 10:36pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7891 of 8380) Holy cow I went to BC middle school 15 years ago and I cant remember their mascot for the life of me.
Violent J - (PFID:13d365) - 10:36pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7892 of 8380) The Flying Hamster of DOOM Rains Coconuts On Your Pitiful City! Its a panther
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:37pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7893 of 8380) the little creek running between Lake Phalen and Keller is called Keller CREEK, I just found it on this handy dandy map my husband has
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:40pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7898 of 8380) You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. jammin... Look at the north end of Keller Park, there is a small North South Street.. Day Rd. Any time.. any day
Juster - (PFID:2fce43bc) - 10:47pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7908 of 8380) I'd say thats pretty big, but not as big as Como. Besides, we should count the acres in addition to Keller for a real total...Keller is "not far from the wintry crop".
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 11:56pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7938 of 8380) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 the old phalen creek is now underground and runs through swede hollow. Keller creek goes around the island to round lake then goes on to keller into spoon lake and on to gervais
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 07:29am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 7975 of 8380) battle creek park pool is shape of big fish too
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 08:44am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8002 of 8380) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat Wintery crop. Christmas trees? Not that it fits, but just a thought.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 09:46am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8026 of 8380) Someone was talking about the fish hatchery on Warner rd earlier. Many of you might know this but, there is an archery range on the north side of the road across from the fish hatchery and the area around it is sometimes called pigs eye park but it is not a park, it is an old crusty contaminated land fill. It actually looks nice and has a pond and Battle Creek runs through it but the levels of mercury, lead and PCP are really high. There was an article on it a while back and they said it should be locked up and the pond should be drained to avoid contaminating water fowl. I have to run some errands and then I will be out and about looking. UGH>>>>>
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:15am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8031 of 8380) The archery range is across the road from the fish hatchery
last hope - (PFID:2fce4529) - 11:15am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8059 of 8380) Last years clues gave hints if objects that were aways from the Park (ex French School, red white and blue) If the fish hatchery off of Warner Road is near by. That closes it to Mounds and Battle Creek I can't think of anything near Phalen...
This mentions a game
<pushball> that was played at the first Winter Carnival. (bouncing balls) And also mentions that it was where the capitol is now, then called Central Park.
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 11:31am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8074 of 8380) Central Park is pretty big too. I feel your pain. Im only about 4 blocks away, but I wouldnt even know where to begin. last hope, I knew it wouldnt be on the capitol grounds, but thought maybe the clue refered to Central Park in Roseville. I wasnt sure how many people knew that that had been a park. (I didnt) Could be the history clue.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 11:37am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8077 of 8380) Snow Princess, Â Â The part I thought fit best was off of Dale (Riverdale in Archie) and between co B2 (Honey) and C where the ball fields and tennis courts and American Legion are. there are rollerblading paths (steady of your feet) there and the park is split into East/West sections...I thought it really fit but after last nights clue I think BC is a better fit.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 11:44am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8083 of 8380) I just remembered, there is Battle Creek Community Center on the corner of Winthrop and Upper Afton Road..my niece took dance lessons there....HMMMMMMMM just a few blocks over from the water park.......
wrightwinger - (PFID:20a32cc6) - 01:13pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8102 of 8380) Everybody to the limit!!! phalen is known for massive scary fish that eat ducks,, ,,as mystical hinted to, (but left out the ducks being eating).. the wintery crop,, the ice for the palace... wait a tic,,, i bet it was hidden in the ice,,and brought into the palace, lol. jk
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 01:14pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8103 of 8380) On the "creek" itself, maybe. The wet drop could mean the small falls in the creek. The wintry crop could mean the fish itself, meaning you would need to possibly cross the creek to find it. I need to stop thinking. Someone make me go cook dinner.
Teddykgb3 - (PFID:2fce4423) - 06:38pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8171 of 8380)
<----John Malkovich Back from Vegas and ready to hunt! you know, while I'm on here I amy as well try to get some info, that is afterall what we are here for, just curious if anyone knows where the quote is from? "Help me!you say. "Any time. Any day. It's neither here nor there."
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 06:50pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8180 of 8379) "Neither here nor there" is from Shakespeare's Othello
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 08:05pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8211 of 8379)
<------- I am the standard by which all others are judged. Mrs. P. Creepy Guy HI to this board- I was kinda thinking that one explanation for the Emerald Isle clue might be that the medallion is hidden in a clump of frozen grass. I jettisoned the inside the tennis ball idea, cause no one seemed to like that one.
GreenTeam - (PFID:2fce43ba) - 09:44pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8281 of 8380) What's with the windmills? And who is old lakely?
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 09:44pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8282 of 8380) www.finddru.com If you do your history....it's about water that had to be pumped into a lake at one time dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 09:45pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8284 of 8380) You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. who knows anything about Don quixote? My hubby says he tilted at windmills... dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 09:55pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8291 of 8380) You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. don quixote attacked windmills.. they called it Tilt at windmill... odd.
Stew - (PFID:4d9c8210) - 10:05pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8295 of 8380) Idiom: tilt at windmills To confront and engage in conflict with an imagined opponent or threat. = BATTLE?
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 10:17pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8298 of 8380) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street lookin more like Cherokee Park to me... This latest clue makes a stronger case for Cherokee dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:29pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8304 of 8380) You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. STANDSTILLSynonyms: arrest, box, cessation, check, checkmate, corner, dead end, dead stop, deadlock, delay, gridlock, halt, hole, impasse, inaction, Mexican standoff, pause, stalemate, standoff, wait I like DEAD END
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:30pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8306 of 8380) Brain after too much noodlin' Windmill Road used to run from Como to Phalen Ave. in 1910
Wabbit - (PFID:13d98a) - 10:32pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8308 of 8380) Whos the plump pitcher?
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 10:36pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8313 of 8380) SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE Babe ruth
greenEyes - (PFID:4d9c88ef) - 10:37pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8315 of 8380) What about this?Doesn't Ruth Street "deadend" at Battle Creek Park?
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:39pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8316 of 8380) You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. lucy the plump pitcher... from Charley Brown.. I Know nothing of baseball.. so eh...
Wabbit - (PFID:13d98a) - 10:45pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8327 of 8380) Charlie Brown was the pitcher not lucy. Although, I think Peppermint Patty was the pitcher on the opposing team. Charlie Brown was plump though.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:46pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8328 of 8380) Robert Frost wrote a poem called "Windmill" I had to read it for school
The Usual Suspect - (PFID:2fce3e19) - 10:57pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8337 of 8380) I believe in God, but the only thing that scares me is Keyser Soze Tilt = arcade plump pitcher has to be the street name? david wells? anyone got anything else
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 11:17pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8354 of 8380) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street jack morris graduated from HIGHLAND
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 11:28pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8358 of 8380) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street Plump pitcher - a pitcher of Pig's Eye beer?
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 11:33pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8360 of 8380) This year we're gonna find it! a bunch of malarkey = in a pig's eye
iamcold - (PFID:2fce43db) - 11:38pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8362 of 8380) tilt at windmill I found an idiom for the windmill thing. tilt at windmills= to confront and engage in conflict with an imagined opponent or threat. Does this mean if you go where the conflict or "battle is" your hunt will be at a standstill because it is at Phalen?
This is kind of interesting. Found it while digging into Phalen. I know that the area near there with the shopping mall and such used to be a wetland Nancy - (PFID:13d713) - 12:28am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8374 of 8380) Gotta run. You might like this one too: http://www.actionsquad.org/underground.html
Have a great night Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 02:28am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8379 of 8380) Representing the MidWest B ITS NOT BATTLE CREEK FOR THE LOVE OF MYSELF!!!!!!! "Tilt at a windmill, hunt till a standstill" WHEELOCK!!!! "plump pitcher" either Frank Viola: Frank st or some guy named Hoyt hes in the MLB hall of fame. Hoyt st.
lilslim - (PFID:2fce3e5e) - 09:53pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6616 of 6883) My Dal, all decked out. Don Quixote (or Don Quijote) de ... adjective "quixotic," meaning "idealistic and impractical," derives from his name, and the expression "tilting at windmills green - (PFID:13d37c) - 10:03pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6649 of 6883) Ah.... Don Quxiote... Ah, guys? He was a knight.
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 10:05pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6651 of 6883) any hit on this old time tennis player (Lakely Oliver)
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:09pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6662 of 6883) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 Cervantes who wrote of Don Quixote's famous attack on the windmill giants Sparky - (PFID:2fce51f8) - 10:16pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6683 of 6883) He who is fixed to a star does not change his mind. - Leonardo da Vinci De nada. Through the woodlands, through the valley rides a horseman wild and free tilting at the windmills passing who can the brave young horseman be From the Fogelburb song. Heh.
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 10:17pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6686 of 6883)
<------- I am the standard by which all others are judged. Mrs. P. Creepy Guy sparkeeee! Gordon Lightfoot. :P
Sparky - (PFID:2fce51f8) - 10:20pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6688 of 6883) He who is fixed to a star does not change his mind. - Leonardo da Vinci Lightfoot, Fogelburb, you say banana... Hee! Must be late. he takes a rusty sword into his hand and striking up a knightly pose he shouts across the ocean to the shore till he can shout no more
LIQUOR LADY - (PFID:13d334) - 10:29pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6704 of 6884) All hail the Canadian Lesbians! Is this talking about Babe ruth? the plump pitcher? It's not the biggest personnel mistake in Red Sox history -- an honor already reserved for owner Harry Frazee's decision to sell a plump pitcher-outfielder to the New York Yankees some 80 years ago -- but it's got a pretty good claim to second-place on that list. When baseball people see Roger Clemens -- still going strong at 40, nearing career victory No. 300 -- they feel compelled to ask former Red Sox general manager Dan Duquette exactly the same question Jay Leno asked of Hugh Grant: "What were you thinking?''
lilslim - (PFID:2fce3e5e) - 10:30pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6707 of 6884) My Dal, all decked out. Yes LL, he was sold in 1919 i think from red sox to yankees
Sparky - (PFID:2fce51f8) - 10:34pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6712 of 6884) He who is fixed to a star does not change his mind. - Leonardo da Vinci standstill = freeze? Â Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:34pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6713 of 6884) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat A chubby pitcher could be a Toby jug
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 10:41pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6722 of 6884) I once caught a fish this Big! I don't like the "plump pitcher" being Babe Ruth. While possible, I think it is way too soon after Conway to use that again. I do think the two cluewriters are different, but I'm thinking that it really would be lazy if this is true. Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 10:48pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6746 of 6885) wait! what's this under the stove??? Cool! A furry dried up gherkin! I'm keeping it. I'm naming him Dennis. He will be my good luck pickle. And dennis and I will be friends, and traverse the countryside performing good deeds. OK, I'm going to answer my own question. David Letterman called pitcher Terry Forster a fat tub of goo on his late night show once. Forster, Forest St?
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 10:51pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6749 of 6885) Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! Frosti! Good find! Forest St borders to the west.
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:55pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6757 of 6885) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 Poetry of Henry Wadsworth Longfellow Ultima Thule THE WINDMILL Behold! a giant am I!   Aloft here in my tower,   With my granite jaws I devour The maize, and the wheat, and the rye,   And grind them into flour. I look down over the farms;   In the fields of grain I see   The harvest that is to be, And I fling to the air my arms,   For I know it is all for me. I hear the sound of flails   Far off, from the threshing-floors   In barns, with their open doors, And the wind, the wind in my sails,   Louder and louder roars. I stand here in my place,   With my foot on the rock below,   And whichever way it may blow I meet it face to face,   As a brave man meets his foe. And while we wrestle and strive   My master, the miller, stands   And feeds me with his hands; For he knows who makes him thrive,   Who makes him lord of lands. On Sundays I take my rest;   Church-going bells begin   Their low, melodious din; I cross my arms on my breast,   And all is peace within.
MedallionStallion - (PFID:2fce4709) - 10:56pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6760 of 6885) If you hide the medallion, even in your hearts, there will he rake for it . . . -Henry V The only thing I can get from this clue so far is that I think "lakely" just means it's not far from the lake. I think the clue writer called it "lakely" cause it needs to rhyme with likely, and because it makes it a little more mysterious than "it's not far from the lake". That's my take on it anyways, that that line only means its close to a lake. A park with a lake.
RandyRust - (PFID:2fce3d75) - 11:00pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6769 of 6885) The Winter Carnival Rocks!! where were you??mikey - longfellow runs into bc right? frosti - where the heck you been?? lil slim??? you work late?
RandyRust - (PFID:2fce3d75) - 11:02pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6776 of 6885) The Winter Carnival Rocks!! hmmmthe camo crue thinks that a plump pitcher would throw a "fat " pitch and let the hitter hit a HOMER >homer street runs into highland > they have been there for 3 days (highland) sorry if i let your cat out the bag camo crue
MedallionStallion - (PFID:2fce4709) - 11:05pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6781 of 6885) If you hide the medallion, even in your hearts, there will he rake for it . . . -Henry V The oarfish is the longest bony fish in the sea. Also known as the ribbon fish, it can grow up to 50 feet in length and weigh as much as 100 pounds. The oarfish is easily distinguished by its shiny, silvery body and its bright red crest that runs the entire length of its body. Oarfish live in the deep ocean at depths down to 3000 feet. They have only been known to come up to the surface when sick or dying and have rarely ever been seen alive. Oarfish have a small mouth and no teeth. They strain crustaceans from the gill rakers in their mouth. It is believed that an oarfish can survive with only half of its body intact. It is believed that the oarfish may have been responsible for the many sightings of sea serpents reported by ancient mariners. It is indeed one of the strangest looking fish in the sea. Oarfish are found throughout the deep seas of the eastern Atlantic and Mediterranean sea.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 11:13pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6801 of 6885) But a pitcher wouldn't keep you at bay if he threw you a ball to hit a homer. He'd have to throw you stikes to keep you at bay.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 11:16pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6809 of 6885) A standstill's a dead end.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 11:18pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6812 of 6885) So my take is, go from the windmill to a dead end and if you hit the pitcher you've gone too far.
Kitch - (PFID:4d9c7f8c) - 11:25pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6822 of 6885) tilt NOUN: 1. Deviation from a particular direction: cant1, grade, gradient, heel2, inclination, incline, lean1, list2, rake2, slant, slope, tip2. See RISE, STRAIGHT. 2. Any competition or test of opposing wills likened to the sport in which knights fought with lances: joust, tournament, tourney. See CONFLICT. did somebody say KNIGHT?
Kitch - (PFID:4d9c7f8c) - 11:27pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6824 of 6885) tilt VERB: 1. To strive in opposition: battle, combat, contend, duel, fight, struggle, war, wrestle. See CONFLICT. 2. To depart or cause to depart from true vertical or horizontal: cant1, heel2, incline, lean1, list2, rake2, slant, slope, tip2. See STRAIGHT. back to battle
RandyRust - (PFID:2fce3d75) - 11:30pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6830 of 6885) The Winter Carnival Rocks!! night leeone question- who the hell is don Q and why shouldi know him>? Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 11:32pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6834 of 6885) An intelligent yet strange knight-like person who rides around with a bucket as a helmet chasing windmills thinking they are the enemy.
leelabell - (PFID:13d2de) - 11:33pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6836 of 6885) Randy, he was an ousted player on the Apprentice. :) The windmill phrase came from Don Quixote - use google and start reading, there is lots out there. mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 11:34pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6839 of 6885) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 Take a stand with your fiery band Tilt at a windmill, hunt till a standstill could this be a stand of trees??
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 11:40pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6844 of 6885) This year we're gonna find it! Clue 8 has me reaching for straws but the malarkey word be like "that's a bunch of malarkey" and could that mean the same as "in a pig's eye?"
me2 - (PFID:13d2d2) - 11:50pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6855 of 6896) "The blue ones take me to first, the yellow to second, the brown ones to third, and the green?...they get me a hooooooooooooome run!" 1 entry found for winter crop. winter crop Winter \Win"ter\, n. [AS. winter; akin to OFries. & D. winter, OS. & OHG. wintar, G. winter, D. & Sw. vinter, Icel. vetr, Goth. wintrus; of uncertain origin; cf. Old Gallic vindo- white (in comp.), OIr. find white. ????.] 1. The season of the year in which the sun shines most obliquely upon any region; the coldest season of the year. ``Of thirty winter he was old.'' --Chaucer. And after summer evermore succeeds Barren winter, with his wrathful nipping cold. --Shak. Winter lingering chills the lap of May. --Goldsmith. Note: North of the equator, winter is popularly taken to include the months of December, January, and February (see Season). Astronomically, it may be considered to begin with the winter solstice, about December 21st, and to end with the vernal equinox, about March 21st. 2. The period of decay, old age, death, or the like. Life's autumn past, I stand on winter's verge. --Wordsworth.
RandyRust - (PFID:2fce3d75) - 12:00am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6869 of 6896) The Winter Carnival Rocks!! wintry cropWINTry cROP WINT H ROP WINTHROP
marley king - (PFID:13d2d5) - 02:35am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6886 of 6886) www.kingscommons.8m.com pictures of the parks-------- www.thesmokinhills.com Battling windmills Meaning: Fighting pointless battles or imaginary enemies, with conviction. Example: She wastes her efforts battling windmills, trying to get her husband to put the cap on the toothpaste, and put the seat down. Origin: A reference to the book "Don Quixote", in which the hero delusionally thinks that windmills are dragons that he must slay. Sometimes heard as "tilting at windmills". JOE!
marley king - (PFID:13d2d5) - 03:13am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6888 of 6896) www.kingscommons.8m.com pictures of the parks-------- www.thesmokinhills.com Posted by ESC on January 23, 2001 at 23:55:38: In Reply to: Malarkey a.k.a malarky posted by Bruce Kahl on January 23, 2001 at 18:42:49: : When,in 1961,I proclaimed my innocence of drinking beer and smoking cigarettes (the other smokables were not around yet), my father would tell me "Oh yeah, you're full of malarkey since you smell like a brewery". : Any ideas on the origin or root of malarkey? : thanx : bk I learned that the expression dates back to the 1920s and may come from a surname. Other than that, origin unknown: 1. “malarkey has been a part of American slang at least since the 1930s. It means pretentious, exaggerated, high-flown language that finally adds up to nothing much at all. It’s a latter-day synonym for ‘baloney’ or ‘bunk.’” From “Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins” by William and Mary Morris (HarperCollins, New York, 1977, 1988). 2. “malarkey or malarky n. 1929, of unknown origin.” From “The Barnhart Concise Dictionary of Etymology” by Robert K. Barnhart (HarperCollins Publishers, New York, 1995). 3. “malarkey, 1920s” From “I Hear America Talking” by Stuart Berg Flexner (Von Nostrand Reinhold Co., New York, 1976). 4. “malarkey or malarky n. (perh. obscurely fr. the family name; semantic devel. Unkn.) 1. Nonsense...” From “Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang, Volume 1, H-O” by J.E. Lighter, Random House, New York, 1994.
Interesting that his nicknames are snax and tilt, which is a pitching technique. Back to baseball ref? Standstill=tie game, medallion in a tie? tied up?
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 07:46am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8393 of 8591) Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! JC! I think you've got it! I believe that Wheelock Whitney is the tilted windmill guy.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 08:20am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8396 of 8591) Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! He's a philanthropist. Has won recognition for helping make improvements in the commmunity. I think of it as helping out the underdog a bit and that's where I get the tilting at windmills. Maybe it's wrong, but it is possible.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 09:53am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8405 of 8591) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. I've got a case o'the doubles - AGAIN - in this clue. The old lakeys. It *could* bee two... Lake Agazzi (sp?), or annudder one a wee bit closer to home. The "malarky" would fit with the closer to home one, but then the top o'the clue I can't get to fit. I'm still stickin' in BC.
princesslou - (PFID:2fce42ef) - 10:10am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8410 of 8591) my favorite fiery band from that emerald isle... U2 singing "still haven't found what I'm looking for"
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 11:11am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8430 of 8591)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey. So we're back to the 2 medallion idea, hmm? I LOVE IT! COOL!! A 2 thread JOE! at the same time! I didn't even try! Here ya go, Frosti
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 11:18am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8432 of 8591) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. So, I'm only 1/2 rite? If two, I'm going on record as saying they're both in the same regional park!
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 11:20am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8433 of 8591) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat They hid two that year because the first one was found sooner than they liked. So they hid a second.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 11:21am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8435 of 8591) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. Hhhuuummm.... I wonder... Every other Clue? Or one stanza from each clue? And izzit always the top stanza for one park, the second stanza for the udder? Or do they mix'um up?
iamcold - (PFID:2fce43db) - 12:00pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8460 of 8604) could someone tell me about the light rail transit project? Jesse Ventura was referred to as a "Tilt at a windmill" for his views on this subject. I was wondering if the rails travelled from east to west or where they would originate or something?????
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 12:01pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8461 of 8604)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey. the light rail goes from downtown minneapolis to the mall of america
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 12:01pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8462 of 8604) "It's a small world after all." I was wondering if Xcel Energy had anything to do w/ the location of the park due to the Windmill clue - that is one of the forms of energy they use isnt it? I know it is stretching.
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 12:05pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8463 of 8604)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey. Annie- nothing is a stretch with these clues this year- check it out. I've been looking for a park that uses wind power to supplement it, but I'm getting nowhere slowly
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 12:24pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8467 of 8604) "It's a small world after all." Hunt till a standstill = hunting stand And bay in clue #8 could be a lake or body of water which would go with lakely.
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 12:43pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8475 of 8604) "It's a small world after all." Hasn't it bothered you that In clue 2 it says "the object this week"? Didn't they think it would last more than a week? That is why I started to think they meant "weak". And the object could be an Irish Spring soap box (which of course would go with all the water themes). And the reference to being a clever device w/ false advise and prank leads me to believe it could be something that has a false bottom in it. Or could mean that it is in an Irish Spring box which is inside something else.
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 01:00pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8482 of 8604) This year we're gonna find it! Being an old Harding grad, we used to call the Johnson Governors the guppies.
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 05:06pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8549 of 8604) "It's a small world after all." Tilt at a windmill... I looked up the word Windmill at the Merriam Webster Dictionery online & the 3rd version states: 3 [from the episode in Don Quixote by Cervantes in which the hero attacks windmills under the illusion that they are giants] : an imaginary wrong, evil, or opponent -- usually used in the phrase to tilt at windmills Perhaps someone posted this earlier - but does anyone know does would Don Quixote have anything to do w/ any of these clues?
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 05:08pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8551 of 8604)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. AnnieIf's refering to that definition I believe it's pointing at attacks windmills under the illusion that they are giants] : an imaginary wrong, evil, or opponent AS in if you keep batting your false pretenses you are going to be at a stand still. Need to figure out what the pitcher is.
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 05:12pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8552 of 8604) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. Here's a thought. If we assume the cluewriter is evil, they very well might have purposely used the word "lakely" knowing that people wouldn't be able to make sense of this clue and would just focus on the word "lake" in it. So perhaps that means the treasure is at a park that does *not* have a lake. Otherwise, if it was by a lake, why write such a strange complex clue if people are just going to zoom in on "lake" and ignore the rest? It only makes sense to use that word if you're trying to deceive people.
The first black woman to find the puck - (PFID:4d9c81b3) - 05:19pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8555 of 8604) this is stressing me outAnyone ever heard that phalen used to be called old lakely, the old mom's is swearing by it
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 05:21pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8556 of 8604) www.finddru.com never heard of it, but its possible
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 05:21pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8558 of 8604) any street names giving yet????hold u at bay=bay street= palace rec no disgrace=grace street=linwood rec e.side w.side 35E=35w???
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 05:22pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8559 of 8604) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. Anyone ever heard that phalen used to be called old lakely, the old mom's is swearing by it I've not heard it, but it's possible. Phalen, Como, Battle Creek and other areas were not originally part of St. Paul. They were annexed later on. So it's possible that area had a name of it's own at one time and it could have been Lakely.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 05:50pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8569 of 8604) Brain after too much noodlin' Annie Hi! drove past the DNR on Warner Road the other day and they have removed the "Fish Hatchery" part from their DNR sign. I know it used to say it on the sign but it no longer does. Is it still in existence at that location When I was at Battle down by 61 two days ago I saw all the railroad cars down there and noticed how much they looked like "monster fish schoolin'" I asked my husband if there is a car fish and he said he thought so spelled char-- but upon investigation I think I concluded it is pronounced like char as in charcoal? anyone know ?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 05:55pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8571 of 8604) Brain after too much noodlin' splitrock what was the info you had about the windmill at Phalen last night? Didn't there used to be a water paddle wheel on the north part of the lake many moons ago?
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 05:58pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8573 of 8604) www.finddru.com I read somewhere that they had to pump water into the Lake years ago, and something about a windmill to do that with???????????
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 06:11pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8579 of 8604) Brain after too much noodlin' Here is a link to Representative Phil Krinkie "tilting at a windmill" who happened to be ex-Governor Jesse Ventura. Krinkie is rep. for Shoreview...hmmm.. http://www.citypages.com/bestof2001/citygritty/bestof1346.asp
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 06:31pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8584 of 8604) "It's a small world after all." The Minnesota Dance Festival will be performing "DON QUIXOTE" to premiere April 30, 2004 at the Fitzgerald Theater, St Paul
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 07:25pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8592 of 8604) if two years ago people complained the hunt was too ez & last year the clue writer was chastised for making it too hard, what if they left something very helpful in the first clue, in fact the first line of the first clue......
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 07:28pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8593 of 8604) here's a noodle for ya, the very first line on the very first clue, Say It Ain't So, Clueless Joe ...... well, there was a song from 1958 called --> Say It Ain't So, Joe - the artist that did it was......
LIQUOR LADY - (PFID:13d334) - 07:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8595 of 8604) All hail the Canadian Lesbians! Gary brooker wrote it
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 07:31pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8596 of 8604) Dakota Staton -- later in 1977 also a song by that name recorded by Roger Daltrey. but i think we all know Dakota has relevance to Dakota county, which also borders Cherokee Park on the West Side, but not quite in west saint paul.
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 07:32pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8599 of 8604) This year we're gonna find it! Roger Daltry??
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 07:34pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8602 of 8604) 'Dakota Staton' was the first person to perform a song called "Say It Ain't So, Joe" in 1958 - reference Album Cuts, by Joel Whitburn (2001) (this book lists songs by name and every artist to ever perform them with the year next to their name) http://www.recordresearch.com/tracks.html#poptracks
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 07:45pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8605 of 8606) also Pigs Eye Lake Park almost borders Dakota county, if ya don't count the river being in the way, is there actually a way to get to that park? the city map just shows it is there.
Stew - (PFID:4d9c8210) - 08:01pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8606 of 8606) The song Say It Ain't So, Joe was also done by the Hollies, Murray Head, and the Nolans in addition to Roger Daltrey and Gary Brooker.
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 08:26pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8610 of 8760) in regards to the windmill clue, my grandfather said there used to be an old windmill just off Hwy 36 over in the Phalen/Keller Park area, does anyone know anything about this? just noodlin, cmon people....
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:16pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8612 of 8760) I can crack a code from a DVD on Mars that's 10 million miles away, but I can't find a little plastic puck in my neighborhood! "What a bunch of malarkey!" you say. Maybe that's the important line. This clue is just a lot of useless jibberish if you try to take it literally. Maybe there's a secret code in here we're still missing. my roommate thought earlier that Lark Ave was what they meant. Lark Ave is located at the extreme north side of keller.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:29pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8624 of 8760) "Hopefully Your's" "No, no I mean mine!!" New Daddy I'm wit you on the kool aid thing- but thing it means "first aid station" in the park? Also some older gal told me Saturday morning while lookin' for the precious in Keller/Phalen 911 Frost is just about where the Gateway bridge crosses Phalen Keller by the two "arch" bridges/underpasses and you get a good view of Arcade from back there too close to the archery ranges but not too far away from the lake there is also a Belmont St or Lane that borders the other side of the Rough of the golf course "swift" clue race track?
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 09:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8627 of 8760) all alone on the road to perfection You heard it here, it's Phalen.
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 09:35pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8632 of 8760)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey. So are you not succeeding because you're IN phalen, or if you're NOT in phalen? Disc golf? Near Phalen?, Or the disc being the medallion? A 2 xanax moment...
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 09:36pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8633 of 8760) WTF? in a flower bed? But what freakin park???
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:37pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8634 of 8760) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street my Cherokee Park theory from 2 days ago is looking better and better
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:38pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8638 of 8760) "Hopefully Your's" "No, no I mean mine!!" Disc=medallion
Clue Master - (PFID:13d2ed) - 09:39pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8642 of 8760) Taglines Are For Idiots!! It's not disk golf anyway, it's disc golf. Phalen
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 09:44pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8650 of 8760) plants unfit for weedin, street names?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:45pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8652 of 8760) "Hopefully Your's" "No, no I mean mine!!" plants unfit for weedin' are "weeds"--brush
Head_Spins - (PFID:4d9c87a5) - 09:47pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8654 of 8760) far from secceddin' =Failin'?
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 09:47pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8655 of 8760) In zone 4 of Phalen Park there's a native wildflower sign. It's letter E page 64 of the THG. Anyone else think those may be flowers not fit for weeding?
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:47pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8657 of 8760) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street plants is plural...prob. not the ford plant
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 09:48pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8659 of 8760) www.finddru.com no its the name of the streets bt there
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:50pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8662 of 8760) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street dont think they would want people digging in the native wildflower area...thats why they put the sign there...even if it just means its near there, the PP wouldnt take the chance cause people would sig that area regardless
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 09:51pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8664 of 8760) all alone on the road to perfection Regardless of what they meant, it says "among" them. People are gonna dig them up.
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:52pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8665 of 8760) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street think succeeding is spelled wrong in the clue
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 09:55pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8667 of 8760) HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe......... hmm.... plants unfit for weedin...............como conservatory anyone??
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:55pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8668 of 8760) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat It was spelling alright. Just missing a G
Medallion Tracker - (PFID:2fce4352) - 09:56pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8669 of 8760) think its spelled succeedin so that its opposite is failen(Phalen)you know , instead of failing, which of course phaling isnt a park lol
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 09:56pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8670 of 8760)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey. raking frozen wildflower beds won't hurt a thing, as a matter of fact, those annuals that are spread by seed benefit from a little shake-up, it's only if the rooted perennials are pulled that there's trouble. KT the garden queen
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 09:57pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8671 of 8760) Something to keep in mind though... technically wild flowers are weeds. Whether that helps or not I feel more lost tonight then I was last night. I thought this was suppose to get easier as the clues progressed!
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 09:58pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8672 of 8760) oh my do you realize how many street names at phalen are flowers/plants most consecutively on the west side of the lake: ivy, hycinth, rose, geranium, magnolia they all appear to dead end right into the park
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 10:02pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8678 of 8760) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street the clue doesnt say much.. could be the ford plant, could be bushes, could be wildflowers, or street names...fyi: there are at least 3 large areas that have wildflower sings at phalen
Head_Spins - (PFID:4d9c87a5) - 10:03pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8681 of 8760) Disk as in Disc? From the PP board, someone thought that the spelling of 'frisbee disc' is with a 'c' and not a 'k'. Thus implying the medal is hidden in a 3.5" floppy, or taped to a compact disk. I think they just meant the medallion. Something to keep in mind, unless you're blind.
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 10:07pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8690 of 8760) from looking on the map i think its saying between ivy & magnolia streets which is at the bottom tip of the park & ivy is up from there, about 8 blocks between the two, most of which are flower/plant names but those are the two that seem to run right into the park.
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 10:07pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8691 of 8760) "Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street como park consevatory and highland park disc golf are good ideas...still not completely confident on phalen
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 10:08pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8692 of 8760) One more thing, I think most of Phalen is surrounded with these wild flowers. They planted them to fight an erosion problem. Good night now!
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:10pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8696 of 8760) You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. I like the "far from succeedin'" == failing == Phalen Among plants unfit for weeding == streat names that dead end at phalen Hunt till a standstill == Dead end (streets) Big fish and bouncing ball == phalen miral Wintery crop == ice blocks for palace. I like it.. am I going to Phalen now? NO, do I think we'll make it to 12 clues.. YES
Medallion Tracker - (PFID:2fce4352) - 10:11pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8701 of 8760) onthe jazz is on the right track. the clue has to be refering to something other than live plants, like the street signs, power plant, etc because all real plants would be fit for weedin. The clue says unfit for weedin.
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8721 of 8760) You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. Of course, Rose deadends at como too... PLEASE NOT COMO
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:56pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8746 of 8760) "Hopefully Your's" "No, no I mean mine!!" Oh I didn't slog I was sitting at the kitchen table going over the Hudson road map and it dawned on me! Also at the north east tip of the lake are two streets Frisbie and Frank (Viola?) the pitcher
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:57pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8747 of 8760) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat Wasn't he kind of a skinny fellow?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:57pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8748 of 8760) "Hopefully Your's" "No, no I mean mine!!" Anyway that definately puts it at Phalen for me and the i think the puck is hidden back near the Phalen Keller line
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 11:13pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8757 of 8760) "Hopefully Your's" "No, no I mean mine!!" Oh yeah-- Helen KELLER was blind!
human24 - (PFID:2fce40d0) - 11:52pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8759 of 8760) Bring back the Weatherball. Save the Hunt. Ball Park Franks plump when you cook 'em.
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 03:55am Feb 2, 2004 PST (# 8768 of 8768) "It's a small world after all." Plants that are unfit for weedin' - perhaps a park around the Xcel Energy Plant or Energy Park Drive or a computer company (disk)
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 06:49am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6911 of 7878) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 hoyt is a hall of famerthat would put it at phalen at about the rec center
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 06:50am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6912 of 7878) I was looking at highwood hills rec center baseball fields are named after Don L Samuelson
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 06:51am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6913 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. Hoyt?... hmmm does this bring us back around to the baseball reference at the first clue?
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 06:52am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6915 of 7878) I am thining it has to ba on a baseball feild near home plate pitcher and get dirt on your knees???
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 06:54am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6917 of 7878) I know I am being silly but what about Beach Street?
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 06:55am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6918 of 7878) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 a pitcher will hold you at bay if your up at bat and he strikes you out
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 06:57am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6919 of 7878) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 Beach Street?e/w street in st paul/ not by any parks I don't think/maybe margaret playground
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 06:57am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6920 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey. This may irk some folks- but a noodle came out about the 'where monster fish are schoolin' And there's a Pike Elementary really close to Long Lake Regional Park. Might be worth checking out. There's not a whole lot about it online. :( Two in-a-row JOE! For Senor Frosti
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 06:57am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6921 of 7878) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 a pitcher will hold you at bay if your up at bat and he strikes you outthen you go back to the dugout?
LIQUOR LADY - (PFID:13d334) - 06:59am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6924 of 7878) All hail the Canadian Lesbians! do these things grow in minnesota? Main Entry: pitcher plant Function: noun : a plant (especially family Sarraceniaceae, the pitcher-plant family) with leaves modified into pitchers in which insects are trapped and digested by means of liquids secreted by the leaves
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 07:00am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6925 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. That would work but not at Phalen... That bouncing ball isn't heading towards the baseball fields. And if the school of fish is what the writer was talking about then that to is to far away. My initaial thought of the rec center was never anything more then something green to let you know you were at the right park.... that is after you took arcade street to get to the park. If it is Phalen which feels right to me... the writer basically took us to the park and walked us in the south entrance and then sent us up the bike path. I think this clue is telling people why they are at the wrong park. Need to know what the plump pitcher is. I was noodling this thing all night and didn't get to far. Tilt at a windmill, hunt till a standstill – (3 [from the episode in Don Quixote by Cervantes in which the hero attacks windmills under the illusion that they are giants] : an imaginary wrong, evil, or opponent -- usually used in the phrase to tilt at windmills) If you are at "battling" the wrong enemy then your hunt is going nowhere. A plump pitcher may hold you at bay – (no clue) Look it's quite likely not far from old lakely – It's near the lake? "What a bunch of malarkey!" you say. – this is a bunch of nonsense?
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:02am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6927 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey. HEY LL!!!! Yes, pitcher plants grow in MN!!!! They're really cool! Thet grow in dense, wet areas
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 07:03am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6928 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. KT I was looking at the pike elemetary. But the closest park to pike is Freedom? mrmnmikey - Ramsey Department of public works :)
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:06am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6930 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey. OTS About how many blocks away is Long Lake from there? Frosti, DUDE!!! 3 For 3 JOE!!!
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 07:06am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6931 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. mrmnmikeyPitcher plant 2 : a modified leaf of a pitcher plant in which the hollowed petiole and base of the blade form an elongated receptacle? \ You get anything from this?
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:08am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6932 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey. Only that they do grow in MN, But I've never happened upon one around here.
Dunker - (PFID:2fce43e9) - 07:08am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6933 of 7878) Freedom ParkFreedom only has a small sledding hill, a softball field and a playground area. it is only 1.5 blocks big and is also used as the schoolyard at recess. The school is called "Pike Lake" and it's on the corner of Silver Lk Rd and 16th street.
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:10am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6934 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey. I was thinking more about Long Lake park- how far away from Pike Elem is that?
Dunker - (PFID:2fce43e9) - 07:10am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6935 of 7878) KT, it's about 4 blks from Long Lake. But, Long Lake Regoinal Park is on the OTHER side of Long Lake from Freedom...
Dunker - (PFID:2fce43e9) - 07:11am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6936 of 7878) probably 2 miles by car, about a half mile if you cross frozen long lake...
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:12am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6939 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey. So It's a stretch, and probably a moot noodle, hmm.
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 07:23am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6955 of 7878) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 tilt?Hoyt Wilhelm #49 | Pitcher | San Francisco Giants/New York Giants -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James Hoyt Wilhelm: "Snacks," "Old Tilt"
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 07:26am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6959 of 7878) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 Wilhelm was a high school pitcher in North Carolina when he read an article about knuckeballer Emil "Dutch" Leonard and began experimenting with the pitch. After a year in the minors, his progress was interrupted by WWII, in which he won the Purple Heart for heroic duty during the Battle of the Bulge.
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 07:29am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6963 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. Just throwing it out there. Prattle - Synonyms CHAT 1, babble, chatter, clack, gab, gabber, jaw, prate, yak, yakety-yak 2 Synonyms BABBLE 2, blabber, blather, drivel, drool, gabble, prate, twaddle, ||waffle malarkey - Synonyms NONSENSE 2, balderdash, blatherskite, bunkum, bushwa, guff, hogwash, hooey, poppycock, twaddle It's all saying the same thing..... How much of this do we want to trust?
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 07:30am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6964 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. Hoyt was 6'0 and 190lbs. I'm 6'4 240..... I could fair to lose a few pounds lol. and mrmnmikey I see where Hoyt runs to Arcade. DO you think this is the writers way of telling people they are still in the wrong park?
LIQUOR LADY - (PFID:13d334) - 07:31am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6966 of 7878) All hail the Canadian Lesbians! Tilt at a windmill- an imaginary wrong, evil or opponent. Makes me think of crazy people or senile like the elderly, any places around by the parks that care for people who are crazy or senile?
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 07:33am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6969 of 7878) but not as new as I used to be Plump pitcher - the koolaid picture guy, I think it is hidden in a koolaid drink pouch Or... Roger clemens is famous for pitching inside fast balls if the batter gets to close to the plate - holding them at bay, many a batter have thought trying to hit off clemens was tilting at windmills, Roger st is by highland... I like the koolaid idea more I love the bunck of malarky in a pigs eye noodle is it in St Paul???
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 07:37am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6973 of 7878) this windmill thing has me utterly confused...I keep coming up with tilt-a-whirl...but that doesn't fit...
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 07:38am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6974 of 7878) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 tilt-a-whirl...but that doesn't fit...fits como
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:38am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6975 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey. Gol! Every time it seems we have conviction in a park, we end up noodling ourselves into doubt. I repeat myself- I think the WRITER is the clever device here. This is fun!
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 07:38am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6976 of 7878) Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! Wheelock Whitney, a Republican, ran for Governor of Minnesota against Rudy Perpich in 1982. He lost. Mr. Whitney is a philanthropist and has a hall at the Minneapolis Community and Technical College named for him. Wheelock Whitney has also won multiple awards and recognition for accomplishments impacting the community. I think we got a street name. Anyone else think so?
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 07:38am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6977 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. an imaginary wrong, as in... you see an evil don't believe it.. becasue it will tell you that you are in the wrong place... even though you aren't? I'm convinced it's in Phalen... but then they say we might be pranking you... then.... they say hey now you are worried about it... are you sure that there is even anything wrong with your pick? DAMMIT JIM!
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 07:41am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6981 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. Terry I think you might be right.... I don't think the East side West side was talking about Wheelock. I think it was refering to the taking your honey for a ride in a boat from the boat house to the East shore and back to the West shore. The area under the dock is Rocky and Sandy. I think we might have Wheelock now....
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 07:45am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6988 of 7878) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. How does Wheelock Whitney fit this clue? And how did someone get pumping water into a lake out of this clue? The thing I get out of the first two lines is that tilting at windmills, being at a standstill, and being held at bay all seem to represent not being able to do something.
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 07:47am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6989 of 7878) AW I get out of not being able to do something...a wall or a fence or something in your way so you can go no further...start diggin...
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:48am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6990 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey. Like going no further, AW? at a dead end, maybe? edit: Joe for frosti- you thought I'd miss this one, didn't you?
The Map Guy - (PFID:13d404) - 07:51am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6993 of 7878) How 'bout a Map? www.treasurehunt.8m.com I think the clue writer is still attacking us rather than giving us a meaty clue. We've been accused of attacking false enemies, and I get a sneaky sense that our hubris has caused this wickedness in the clue writer. He/she is getting pleasure knowing what we are being led astray. If its not at Phalen, there's no use in hunting anymore until the 12th clue.
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 08:08am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7031 of 7878)
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 08:13am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7038 of 7878) Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! OTS - Interesting. Allison - I believe the tilting at windmills is about working to make things work that may not be necessarily popular or considered possible. Philanthropy can certainly be part of that work. Making a difference. Dreaming the dream. That's where I fit Wheelock Whitney in this rhyme.
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 08:17am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7044 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. reading that deal about the tunnel.... Trout Brook, which drains McCarron's Lake in Roseville, was tributary to Phalen Creek, which drains Lake Phalen. Man-o-man i'm stretching blindly here..... Up creek?
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 08:20am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7048 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. I think windmill still has to do with [from the episode in Don Quixote by Cervantes in which the hero attacks windmills under the illusion that they are giants] : an imaginary wrong, evil, or opponent -- usually used in the phrase to tilt at windmills If you keep on that path of illusion you are going to be at a standstill. Whats the illusion? That we are being pranked?
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 08:20am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7049 of 7878) There is a Fish Creek Park in Maplewood.
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 08:23am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7056 of 7878) Lurk No More! Morning all! Can't chat long. I have to spend some PT with W&Ks...one thing about todays clue keeps bugging me..."old lakely" is such wierd choice of words to use if its just trying to say its near a lake. Maybe we're supposed tp look for a park near something like "Veterans Lake" apartments (just an example) or Elder Lake Lane (another example). Just a random noodle that won't lead anywhere, but feel better now by mentioning it.
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 08:24am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7057 of 7878) mad search for maps of fish creek parkahh its by Carver Lake in Woodbury but its on the Maplewood side south of Battle Creek
MedallionStallion - (PFID:2fce4709) - 08:41am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7067 of 7878) If you hide the medallion, even in your hearts, there will he rake for it . . . -Henry V For anyone convinced that the plump pitcher is that Forster guy from David Letterman: There is a Forster st. in St. paul, which if you follow a line from it east over the river leads right into Cherokee. But I'm not really convinced that's the plump pitcher referrence
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 08:41am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7068 of 7878) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 cool EagsBEST TILT AT A WINDMILL Krinkie vs. Ventura There's no doubt that Gov. Jesse Ventura is Minnesota's preeminent windmill--if only for the amount of hot air he spins. Phil Krinkie, the Republican legislator from Shoreview, might be the Minnesota House of Representatives' preeminent Don Quixote, by virtue of his vociferous and futile opposition to light-rail transit....
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 08:47am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7074 of 7878) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 vociferous and futile oppositiongo the other way? Opposite of clue 7 and the bouncing balls?
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 08:48am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7076 of 7878) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. So does anyone know where to find a map of Ramsey County from the 1860's?
MedallionStallion - (PFID:2fce4709) - 08:51am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7081 of 7878) If you hide the medallion, even in your hearts, there will he rake for it . . . -Henry V From what I can tell it seems we have been told it is in a park with a golf course and a lake. That doesn't leave a whole lot, and Phalen makes the most sense of all of them.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 08:58am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7087 of 7878) Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! We'll be out there around 1 or so. So how's this for tilt at a windmill...uphill battle.
tim_the_hunter - (PFID:f7c6207) - 09:00am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7089 of 7878)
<---- "It's true that I hadn't showered, But I did brush my teeth.'' If to tilt at windmills means to engage in conflict with an imagined opponent, and it goes on to say "hunt at a standstill", it makes me think they are saying we are at the wrong park (there is a conflict between hunters and the park). That being said, I can't figure out which plump pitcher at Phalen is holding us at bay. But looking back at the clues, I think Phalen is the obvious choice, and what the cluewriter WANTED us to be thinking. "What a bunch of malarkey!" you say. I don't know about you guys, but if you is us and us is medallion hunters, then we are saying its a bunch of malarkey, that makes me think its at como.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 09:01am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7090 of 7878) Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! StandstillSTANDSTILL Pronunciation: 'stand`stil WordNet Dictionary Definition: [n] an interruption of normal activity [n] a situation in which no progress can be made; "reached an impasse on the negotiations" Synonyms: deadlock, impasse, stalemate, stand, tie-up See Also: arrest, check, halt, halt, hitch, stay, stop, stop, stoppage Webster's 1913 Dictionary Definition: \Stand"still`\, n. A standing without moving forward or backward; a stop; a state or rest.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 09:03am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7091 of 7878) BrinG iT oN!! :-) Hi everyone; I was babysitting my grandson all day and night yesterday (the one you see) so I have been out of the loop. I dont even know how to comment on this new clue. Could the Don Quoite shooting at windmills have anything to do with the new stadium location?
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 09:04am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7092 of 7878) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. I believe there used to be a city in MN called Lakely, but I don't know where. I've only found one small reference to it so far in a Civil War document where it mentioned some people coming from the Minnesota 6th Infantry coming from Lakely.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 09:04am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7093 of 7878) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. Marning, 'Heads. The old lakley is Lake Agazzi, or whatever. I didn't spell it right. Or ittiz the lake that used to be in Carver's cave, that is not there any more. But I can't get the rest o'the clues to fit there. But for rubbish - "malarky." But it think marlarky's just being used to fit in with the udder Irish stuff.
leelabell - (PFID:13d2de) - 09:06am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7095 of 7878) AW - I posted this in your group: AW - have done some research on the 6th Infantry - the other sites say they went to Fort Blakely, AL - I think your site might be have a typo. Here is one: http://kathrynmn_1.tripod.com/civilwar.htm
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 09:07am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7096 of 7878) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. And did you notice the first letters o'the clue spell "WALT"?
Eags - (PFID:2fce3c0e) - 09:08am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7101 of 7878) I like the idea that old lakely could mean the glacial lake that isn't there anymore. Will file that away and see if any future clues go there.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 09:44am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7128 of 7878) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. Pops pointed out that we're back with the feet thing yet again on this clue: stand. There's an awful lot o'feet references in these clues. Beats me if means anything. I'm totally defeated there.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:47am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7129 of 7878) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat Feet=clogs=standstill(water that is).
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 10:08am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7139 of 7878) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. Neither BC or Phalen? Could bee... But I still think BC. And the eastern part, not the western by Mounds. Found this interesting tid-bit. Did you know Oldies Ice Palce was built on Dayton's Bluff? Like somewhere near Mounds Park and/or Mounds Playground? Pops and I have been noodling Mounds Playgournd a bit...
Kitch - (PFID:4d9c7f8c) - 10:18am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7142 of 7878) "battle with imagined opponent or threat" - ghosts or ghost....mounds? only ghosts i can think of...
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 10:25am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7143 of 7878) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. Casper The Ghost? Casper's Chair-O-Key Steak House?
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 11:18am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7163 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey. was Carver's cave the old Libby's Mushroom caves? I 'member going in there a few times in the 80's
Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 11:21am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7164 of 7878) Carver's cave is an area on the lower part of Indian Mounds that was explored ages ago by Carver
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 12:58pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7202 of 7879) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 just back from phalen/bcfound this across from the beach at phalen. A lighted ice sculpture in front of a green house at Frank St and Ivy. (picture of mini ice palace in someones yard)Green Emerald???
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 01:01pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7204 of 7879) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 also found some bouncing balls at BC (picture of metal?sculpture type thing of football,basketball, baseball)
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 01:02pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7206 of 7879)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. mrmnmikey did you see a way to follow them?
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 01:04pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7207 of 7879) so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 don't know how to follow 'em exept on the ball feildsthere are 2 of those things out there
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 01:26pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7227 of 7879) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. Walter (WALT) Johnson (JOHNSON PKWY) was the all time leader at shutouts. Kept quite a few at bay, huh? Now near there is the old lakely that used to be in Carver's Cave in the sandstone cliffs. Same cliffs that honey got tossed off of. Here's what I've come up with in the last few hours. The dualities. One park - Battle Creek Regional Park, that has TWO areas/two seperate parks. And that ball keeps bouncing between the two parks. Both have pitchers, both have schoolin' momster fish, both have archery, both had ski jumps, both have peak/peeks, both have watery drops... But what which area? I'm torn in two!
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 01:29pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7229 of 7879) just did a search on AOL they are from the 1800's. They are in French because the French settled here first or explored here but I'm fairly certain there is no Lakely listed. http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/map_item.pl?data=/home/www/data/gmd/gmd404/g4042/g4042m/ct001034.sid&itemLink=r?ammem/gmd:@filreq(@field(NUMBER+@band(g4042m+ct001034))+@field(COLLID+dsxpmap))&title=Les+costes+aux+environs+de+la+rivière+de+Misisipi+:+&style=dsxpmap&legend= These are kinda heard to navigate around in but here is one I found.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 01:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7230 of 7879) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. Oh! And both areas are names of regional areas - Battle Creek and Mounds. And both were/are on the "it can't be there list." I'm still in BC. Still. I may/prolly will regret this, yet again, but I'm still in BC.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 01:33pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7232 of 7879) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. Oh. And both have sandstone cliffs. Yeah, Lisa... BC.
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 01:35pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7233 of 7879) Neither here nore there could mean not lower BC or BC park but BC rec is in the middle???
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 01:37pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7234 of 7879) BrinG iT oN!! :-) how does "in the rough" apply to BC. is there a golf course there
last hope - (PFID:2fce4529) - 01:38pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7235 of 7879) QueenMalley In the rough-diamond baseball fields?
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 01:40pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7236 of 7879) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. Could be, Lisa. But it could also mean it's not in either part of the BC BC, but closer to the "malarkey"/rubbish - IM.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 01:41pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7237 of 7879) BrinG iT oN!! :-) Usually past clues always talk about a golf course to stay away from if the park is near/at a golf course. That fact that clue 5 says "dont look in the rough" seems to me that this park does have a golf course to stay away from. If there was no golf course affiliated with the park, no mention would be made. Thats my impression.
last hope - (PFID:2fce4529) - 01:42pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7238 of 7879) Bit of a readI think BC is getting closer. Pulled this from Beyond Main Street's Guide to MN parks. This os the only one that is in Ramsey Country that was listed with other state parks A bit a read but does it start to fit the clues? Not ten minutes from the heart of Downtown Saint Paul, Battle Creek Regional Park offers visitors a scenic walk among verdant woodlands and rushing waters, and a chance to see deer, fox, hawks, owls, and migratory waterfowl. The Creek itself, which feeds into Pig's Eye Lake, was named for the Battle of Kaposai, a skirmish between the Ojibwe and Dakota tribes which took place in 1842. There are two actual sections to the park divided by a stretch of suburban housing. They are linked by a hiking/cycling trail, and there are parking lots by both. The Southern portion runs along the bluffs that trace Battle Creek and offers access to mountain bike trails. The Northern portion is more forest, with a few ponds and small brooks. Wood Ducks and Mallards usually stop here to nest and have their young, and we've spotted numerous herons, egrets, and other waterfowl. The trails are dotted with Wild Geranium and Rue Anemone in the spring and early summer. There is a limestone cave near the Southern entrance to the park that is closed to the public; Saint Paul authorities report that the caves had to be bricked off after some teenagers died in a cave-in.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 01:43pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7239 of 7879) BrinG iT oN!! :-) but I DO like the East/West side for BC and that bouncing ball sculpture shown on an earlier posting. and the stony and sandy place. but other clues dont fit.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 01:44pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7241 of 7879) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. There's a golf course opening up this summer near BC, down on Century. But that rough could also mean "rough terrain." As in stay away from rough grass and all. Stay away from hills and peeks. We've already been told in the rules ittiz not on a golf course... And then you could have "ruff" as in what a dog says. Bit of a stretch, though... However, I don't know!
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 01:46pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7243 of 7879) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. "in the rough" doesn't necessarily have to be a golf term. It could just refer to rough terrain. But there is a golf course at BC anyway at Lower Afton and Century.
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 01:50pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7249 of 7879) BC also had a natural burn last summer during the burn ban could that be the fiery band??
Ian - (PFID:13d310) - 01:59pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7262 of 7879) ... backslogged quickly ...Lakely is a surname. any cemeteries near the "hot" parks ?
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 02:01pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7265 of 7879)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. Ian, Only Cemetary I saw was west of Phalen on Wheelock
My Dalliance - (PFID:13d2cf) - 02:05pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7270 of 7879) There are 2 words in the clues so far that aren't really words: "yer" and "lakely". If you scramble them, you get "yay Keller."
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 02:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7309 of 7879) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. Well I'm making some progress. I found that there used to be a little town called Montville where Battle Creek is now, and the whole Battle Creek area used to be a suburb called McLean. No Lakely yet though.
East Side Digger - (PFID:2fce3e77) - 02:40pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7320 of 7880) Top of the world ma The mounds have been described as emerald green hills
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 04:16pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7393 of 7880) Rough why does this have to do with a golf course? they used ROUGH in clue #6 2002 and there was no golf course near that park!!!!
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 04:21pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7399 of 7880) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. Matt... Rough could mean hilly, uneven ground. Maybe even a brambley scruffy area. Doesn't have to mean golf course. Then, for a stretch, there's "Ruff!"
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 04:56pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7418 of 7880) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. The Mississippi River, known as "HA-HA WA-KPA" (river of the falls) to the Dakota, was important to the Kaposia people." Think that could be the "wet drop"?
LIQUOR LADY - (PFID:13d334) - 04:58pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7421 of 7880) All hail the Canadian Lesbians! I couldnt come up with anything else besides wet Drop= tear-or tier.
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 05:00pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7422 of 7880) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. malarkey: Exaggerated or foolish talk, usually intended to deceive Hmmm, so more stuff we shouldn't believe. So what are we supposed to get out of this clue then?
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 05:01pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7423 of 7880) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. I think wet drop sounds like a pretty good description of a water slide.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 05:10pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7430 of 7880) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. Allison, that's what I've been thinking for days - about the water slide. But with them pointing to the IM part of the regional park in one clue/part of a clue, and then next they're pointing to the BC part of the regional park... I'm just trying to noodle which area of BCR ittiz. If you're thinking the whole clue's malarkey, well... Then it could be all the IM clues are "crap" and ittiz in the other area of BC. Which suits me fine! Because I can get dirty pants over on the east side, but am having trouble getting them dirty on the west side. Plus, the east side's less rough.
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 05:20pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7438 of 7880) ok this is going to sound totally off the wall and I should keep my mouth shut BUT here goes...I don't even know how many clues I can get to fit except for the fact you guys keep coming up with the fact that they keep refering to pranks false advice and malarkey...What if the park was Daytons BLUFF Rec. Bluff=false advice and malarky and up the street is the Metro state U isn't it=monsterfish schoolin? ok thats my noodle for the night.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 05:23pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7441 of 7880) Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! I don't think that's off the wall at all. While I was uncommitted to a park...and I'm still trying to keep an open mind...I thought perhaps that bluff thing was a good noodle. The sandstone bluffs both at IM and Cherokee...and the Daytons Bluff neighborhood at IM.
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 05:25pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7442 of 7880) There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. Battle Creek has bluffs also.
Ian - (PFID:13d310) - 05:34pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7460 of 7880) Let’s first start by deciphering this clue. The first line is for all those hunters who have been concentrating their time at parks other than Battle Creek. Still up a Creek this is where to Peek. though avoid the wet drop. There is a water park in Battle Creek and there is a 3 story water slide there. This line is telling us it is not near that part of the park. Monster fish are schoolin’ not far from the wintry crop. This line refers to the state fish hatchery located near the north west corner of the park. The wintry crop is the treasure (medallion) we all are seeking every winter. Now, let’s back up to some of the other clues. East side, West side, take your honey for a ride, refers to the fact that part of Battle Creek park is in Washington County (East side) and part of the park is in Ramsey County (West side) obviously we need to be in Ramsey County so we want to go for a ride on the West side, most specifically Point Douglas road which has scenic overlooks. Stony and sandy place refers to the limestone cave entrance near the southern end of the park. Coincidently, on some older maps, like the one I use, this part of the park is referred to as Highwood. In yesterdays clue it was telling us not to aim low but high. Both Upper and Lower Afton road runs through the park, the Highwood area oddly enough is near Lower Afton road. Neither here nor there, perhaps? Also there is an archery range off Warner road near the fish hatchery. Take a stand with your fiery band refers to a band of Indians, remember the battle was between the Ojibwa and Dakota tribes. It may also apply to the bandstand where they have summer concerts. Don’t look in the rough I believe will mean it will be hidden more in an open space this year rather than in the rough forest. There is no golf course at Battle Creek to make that a golf reference. Also there is an area of the park just for dogs to run un-leashed, and to prattle and bark!
Ian - (PFID:13d310) - 05:40pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7468 of 7880) 1953 Again! Say it ain’t so! This morning you were all given a very thorough synopsis of why we at Medallion Central had chosen Battle Creek as our park. You were also told there are very good arguments for Phalen and were told of all the hunters that would be there in addition to the hunters that would be at Battle Creek. I mean let’s face it; Phalen has a mural of monstrous fish along with a mural of bouncing beach balls, and their right next to the sandy beach, where of course, they harvested the winter crop of ice blocks for our famed palace. There is a golf course, baseball, a giant fire ring, and a hospital across the street. I mean, you’ve seen the clues, it all adds up! Who in their right mind would question that? Well those of us at Medallion Central of course! After spending numerous hours driving back and forth between the two and having valid reasons for both parks; all of a sudden it Dawned on us!! And I mean that literally, considering the Medallion Central member who thought this one up. Her name; Dawn! Yep Dawn went out on the proverbial limb and said to me, “what if there are 2 medallions?” “Has that ever happened?” At this point I turned three shades of white and the goose bumps that you typically get when you’re on to something immediately popped from my skin. “Yes” I said with a fiery! “1953!” In 1953 there were 2 treasures hidden, the first in Cherokee park and the second at the State Fair. Now, haven’t we all been wondering in clue #3 what the prank is? All is Fair? Neither here nor there? Could this possibly mean there actually is a treasure hidden in both parks that we all seem to be going back and forth from? And as clue #6 suggests, shouldn’t we take a stand with our band of hunters and pick a park? And then of course be prepared for the defeat when it is found in the opposite park we are in, but really that will be false advice because there are two. Wouldn’t that be big if after 44 years the PP decided to hide two treasures as a prank and refer to the prank as “all is fair” and the only other time it was ever done, one of the two treasures was at the fair? Wow, that is way out there on a limb! But we thought it might be worth mentioning only because we sincerely believe all the clues fit very well for both parks. Or maybe it's at neither.... Maybe it‘s at Hidden falls!
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 05:41pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7469 of 7880) BrinG iT oN!! :-) well, Dayton's bluff has a dance studio. Keller Park has an archery range.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 05:41pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7470 of 7880) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat Someone found the first treasure early so they advertised that they were going to hide a second. Not concurrently.
Med2K - (PFID:2fce42b9) - 05:47pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7477 of 7880) Yeah, I think that was his way of telling us that his clues aren't going to be the kind you can pick apart easily. You're going to need to go deep into each word almost to get somewhere. And yes, they are HIS clues
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 05:52pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7482 of 7880) I once caught a fish this Big! For those of you who like Battle CreekI'll let you all determine whether or not this is significant, or how it fits the clues. Personally, I prefer Phalen, because I think Battle Creek needs too many clue stretches. But, here are some things I found at BC Rec, and although I haven't slogged all these posts, I haven't seen them in any clue explanations yet. On the North Side of BC Rec, across from the older ball fields, there is a home at 2045 Upper Afton that has a windmill in the yard. Not something the size of your average dairy farm, but a six foot or so decorative model. It is visible from the open area near the ball fields and older playground equip. Take a look for yourselves and see if it helps you make the BC Case. Also, on the East and North sides of BC Rec, there are metal sculptures-and they each have a football, a soccer ball, a baseball and a bat. Much has been made of the bouncing balls on the wall of the Phalen beach house--seeing balls in art at another park makes the Phalen set less definitive for me. Other things at BC rec--Ruth street is indeed the West boundary. Personally, I hate another Babe Ruth clue, so if the "plump pitcher" is the Babe, well, that's cheesey. But it fits. There is a horseshoe pit by the playground equipment--and it does work for "go you look" if you like the "you" to be a "U". Also, this section of BC will help you "avoid a wet drop"--it does not have the creek flowing through, nor the water park. Food for thought--would like it if someone would play with this and possibly add to it.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 05:55pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7485 of 7880) BrinG iT oN!! :-) Keller is the site of pow-wow festivals.
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 05:57pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7489 of 7881) Good noodling L@As Mommy. How do the rest of the clues fit?Terry, I haven't gotten ALL of them to fit but you can't always get them to fit until you actually get to the park but with the information I have here this is how I get DBR to fit the clues. 1. Its in an area park stop complaining and get out and look for it. 2. Its in a green something a Cap? or a doughnut? 3. Help me help me any time any day? The police station is just up the road. 4. Bouncing ball...tetherball pole there 5. ?? 6. ?? 7. Monster Fish up the road is Metro State U. Wintery crop was harvested from the east side. and downtown isn't that far either so could just be referencing that its close? dunno...little stretch on that part. Plus all the references to prank, false advice, malarkey = Bluff
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 05:59pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7492 of 7881) BrinG iT oN!! :-) Lisa: there is a dance studio at Daytons bluff--i find it odd that a park rec center would have a dance studio in it. must be the only one that does.
MOM* - (PFID:13d410) - 06:02pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7494 of 7881) emmy & hannah's and natalies.... I think I'm in for the night. My oldest 2 convinced me to take them bowling. The heat of the hunt, and they want to go bowling?!?! Most any other year, it would have been out of the question, but this year I only have inklings for parks and definitely no ideas on where to zone in.... A friend found some interesting facts while doing some armchair noodling....from the 1997 city council minutes.....a resolution approving application for a Dance or Rental Hall License by Windmill Market Attractions Inc. A M, dba Windmill Market, 122 Wabasha Street South. (ID #85297) Too funny!
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 06:02pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7495 of 7881) I once caught a fish this Big! queen malley-- Per Mr. Allison, there is the Shamrock Plaza on the upper end of BC Park--It doesn't help locate it at the rec, but it does help with the park. Personally, I don't think the Emerald Isle refers to a park, but rather the object the medallion is hidden in. So, I'm not working very hard to get that Emerald bit to fit a park right now. The Archie and Jughead bit I think is nothing more than a tip of the cap to the folks at Archie Enterprises for featuring our fine City's idea in their comic. Like I said, I can get more to work at Phalen, but the absence of an Archie or Emerald Isle references does not keep me out of BC
MOM* - (PFID:13d410) - 06:08pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7501 of 7881) emmy & hannah's and natalies.... Like the noodling for Dayton's Bluff! Also near Arcade St (token) - albeit a not very well travelled part of it. Think it's kind of obscure, but I'm also feeling that that may be the kind of place we'll all be running in a day or two. There's probably some place out there that is just off the wall/out of the way enough it hasn't come to mind. I might not have *ever* made it to Conway, but it was in the 'hood, and we almost had no choice but to drive by, and *click*.....of course then the clues seemed to make better snese. Rambling, sorry....
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 06:16pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7507 of 7881) I once caught a fish this Big! I like the East Shore of Phalen, actually. Now,none of the following items are my ideas, but they have been on the board, so I don't think I'm giving away the store here. If these are yours, Sorry I can't attribute them--too much slogging to do it right: 1. Regarding the word "token" in the first line of clue 2--I like the tie in there to "Arcade" street. I like the idea of "Tilt" in today's clue being an arcade reference, too. 2. Terry V's references to Wheelock Whitney as to tilting at windmills is good enough to give me thoughts it could refer to Wheelock Parkway. 3. Some one mentioned that "coming defeat" from clue 6 line four meaning failin'=Phalen. I liked that. As for me-- 1. Last week when I saw the bouncing balls mural I thought it was an "aha" moment--much like I had at seeing the Sun-ray shopping center at Conway. 2. I like the mural of the fish at the Beach house at phalen too. 3. If you follow the bouncing balls, literally, it will lead you to a sandbar on the East Shore, that is also surrounded by large stones. I like this as a sandy stony place. You may not see it now that it has snowed, but there is a sandbar that is about 40 yards long by six feet wide, just before the path goes up the hill, and directly in front of one of those yellow life raft thingys. (for "help me" from clue three). 4. There are golf references, such as rough, green and believe it or not, I like "plump pitcher" to mean a pitching wedge, which is a plump golf club used when you are in a tight spot out of bounds. Which would keep you "at bay"--away from the golf course This is free form noodling while watching football--I will refine it later, I suppose.
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 06:19pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7508 of 7881) I once caught a fish this Big! Oh, and I like wintry crop to be the ice palace blocks. Many have mentioned that crops are annual--I as an ex-farmer disagree. I plant corn, I harvest corn--that's a crop. Corn does not plant itself, therefore there is no guarantee of an annual anything.
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 06:32pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7519 of 7881) I once caught a fish this Big! In clue number three, I haven't worked so much on the "clever device", as I have on the "false advice" part--that it can never be in Phalen (because it adjoins with Maplewood) again. I suppose the clever device is the one we are using now. Way back at the beginning of the hunt, as a joke, I put up the top five urban legends regarding the hunt, and they went something like this-- 1. It can't be in Mounds, as they fear native American backlash if the mounds are damaged in the hunt. 2. Maplewood will sue the PP if the medallion is hidden in or Near Maplewood. 3. They don't hide the puck until clue #7 4. There is a group of spotters watching the hiding spot 24/7 5. I don't recall. Anyhoo, these are all things I have heard, and some of these I have come to believe, as a result of hanging out in the Cooler--and some of these are almost mantras. The clever device--internet, could lead to false advice--not near Maplewood. That's my take.
My Dalliance - (PFID:13d2cf) - 06:39pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7524 of 7881) Hello everyone. Doin' some slogging while hubby watches football. I thought I'd chime in re a previous poster's question to DD about Clue 3 and "false advice." Personally, I'm looking at Clue 3 as giving the park name, scrambling the first words of each line to "It's Phalen Park." The rest of the clue is superfluous. Or, the "clever device" is the anagram.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 07:06pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7535 of 7881) BrinG iT oN!! :-) the Gillette Children's hospital for crippled children was on the site of Phalen until 1977....
jusme - (PFID:2fce4281) - 07:09pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7537 of 7881) THOUGH BE WARY TO AVOID A WET DROP Lakely.....makes no sense at all, what if it really means lake ly, as in not by a lake ?? lying ?
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 07:13pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7539 of 7881) My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey. What if it means "a Kelly"? Yet another Irish reference
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 07:44pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7559 of 7882) but not as new as I used to be Hi Terry, that was me, Sorry I didn't see you. I have been out diggin all day here are my thoughts for the day. Plump picture - see my avatar Could it be hiddenin a koolaid juice pouch?? Fish creek park is a no go. It is completly undeveloped just woods. no sign, no parking, no nothing. just a place on a map. I asked a guy who lives across from the park and he had nop idea it was a park just thought it was public land. Highland does fit the clues. bunch of malarkey tells me to look in a park with a lake will lead to a standstill time to try another park.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 08:52pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7590 of 7882) BrinG iT oN!! :-) Lower Phalen Park has a new "rain garden" put in in August 2003. Maybe that is the avoid a wet drop refered in clue 7?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:09pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7603 of 7882) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat My daughter and I ventured out tonight. Driving wasn't that good, but now that I hear the weather forecast I'm glad we went tonight. Drove out to Long Lake Regional Park in New Brighton, and I have to agree with whoever said that it's nice to discover a new park. It's a lovely park with a secluded swimming beach and a couple of real nice pavilions. I think we'll go back in the summer. We drove past Keller and saw one car. Went into Phalen and didn't see a whole lot of activity.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 09:12pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7605 of 7882) BrinG iT oN!! :-) the Gillette Childrens hospital on the west side of Lake Phalen was razed in 1977, but one part was saved by the St. Paul Humanities society and it has been turned into a Humanities education center and includes hotel rooms to rent in it. Interesting weird looking sculpters inside. If nothing else, I am sure learning about parks in St Paul.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 09:21pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7610 of 7882) BrinG iT oN!! :-) That Humanities building has small contorted indians, redcoats, and pilgrams "all taking aim at some invisable enemy"; the other sculpturs are "humanity trolls", disfigured men on the walls. weird!
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:26pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7617 of 7877) but not as new as I used to be Highland, in the woods
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:27pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7620 of 7877) but not as new as I used to be disc golf at highland
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:27pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7621 of 7877) This year we're gonna find it! Phalen
JazJae - (PFID:2fce443c) - 09:27pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7622 of 7877) I think it's at Palace! far from suceeding- failing= Phalen
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 09:27pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7623 of 7877) well I think we can safely say its not in a flower bed...
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 09:29pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7629 of 7877) all alone on the road to perfection They're reusing AW's mock hunt clues. Far from succeedin'==Failin'==Phalen.
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7633 of 7877) but not as new as I used to be because you were diggin at Phalen you are far from succeding. Look at highland where there is disc golf
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 09:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7634 of 7877) I was waiting for this clue........Frisbe Ave the street that leads into Ripley ave at Phalen
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:31pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7639 of 7877) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat Parts of Highland are dug up too, so you could get dirt on your pants.
Pay me - (PFID:4d9c80ee) - 09:31pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7640 of 7877) I think the dirt on your pants you might have to sit to get it?
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:31pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7641 of 7877) but not as new as I used to be take a risk and go to a different park(than phalen or BC) -highland
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 09:33pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7645 of 7877) www.finddru.com Cat tails!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 09:33pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7646 of 7877) all alone on the road to perfection NO no. We threw the disc where it seems you're far from succeedin'aka we threw the disc at Phalen
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 09:33pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7647 of 7877) all alone on the road to perfection I'd say flowers are unfit for weeding.
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:34pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7648 of 7877) I can crack a code from a DVD on Mars that's 10 million miles away, but I can't find a little plastic puck in my neighborhood! shoot, they can't mean the lakeside restoration area of phalen. The Park and recs would be sooo ticked off if people dug in there.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:35pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7651 of 7877) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat Some kind of mural of flowers that would be unfit for weeding because they're not really flowers?
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:38pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7656 of 7877) but not as new as I used to be flowers that are names are unfit for weeding like roseville, or the conservatory at como, or....the street names hyacinth by phalen, ivy, rose all flower names of streets , by phalen ,that you can't weed
Med2K - (PFID:2fce42b9) - 09:39pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7659 of 7877) Plants that are unfit for weedin' Maybe the Ford Plant? Hidden falls maybe?
jusme - (PFID:2fce4281) - 09:41pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7662 of 7877) THOUGH BE WARY TO AVOID A WET DROP Blind man's Bluff.....
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:42pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7663 of 7877) but not as new as I used to be I haven't heard the BC contengiant come up with any ideas yet>>> I guess ferndale st by BC would be a plant you can't weed
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 09:44pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7670 of 7877) Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! Thanks Pay Me! There are wild flower/prairie grass areas throughout Phalen in zone 4 for sure.
Pay me - (PFID:4d9c80ee) - 09:44pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7672 of 7877) Are there any plastic plants or murals of plants?
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 09:48pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7680 of 7877) It's gotta be by the old water fall... where the wild flower reserve is up on that hill.... that's the only place that it really describes!
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:08pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7709 of 7877) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat There's a flower called the Dancing Lady or something similar to that.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:12pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7714 of 7877) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat Dancing Lady: Perennial, bulb. Suitable only for a greenhouse. (Although I have a friend who grows them in her garden).
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 10:13pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7715 of 7877) Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! There ya go. Trees would also be plants unfit for weeding.
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 10:19pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7725 of 7877) www.finddru.com So on the map where it shows Keller on the top of Phalen......is that whole area including Keller considered Phalen?????
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 10:21pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7729 of 7877) Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! Keller is separate from Phalen in that they are two different park systems. Keller is under the watchful eye of Ramsey County. Phalen under the City of St. Paul Parks and Rec. I don't recall any great dividing line between the two.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:28pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7741 of 7878) The "Disk" clue could also be referencing the Gateway bike path
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 10:29pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7742 of 7878) I can crack a code from a DVD on Mars that's 10 million miles away, but I can't find a little plastic puck in my neighborhood! how so jammin?
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7743 of 7878) Because Disk is spelled like a computer disk not like a flying disc or frisbee
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 10:31pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7744 of 7878) Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! The disk the hiders would be throwing would have to be the medallion I think.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:31pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7745 of 7878) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat Someone just mentioned the unless you are blind clue and linked it to Helen Keller. Sounds a tinge politically incorrect to me, but what do you think?
last hope - (PFID:2fce4529) - 10:32pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7750 of 7878) Phalen-BCThe blind reference. any one know of a school for the blind in St. PAul? Now I'm confused. I though it could be a BC but now the flower reference and all the streets neat Phalen Rose, Jessamine, etc. I looks like Phalen.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:32pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7751 of 7878) Throwing though, would be like a disc or discus........not a disk????
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:33pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7753 of 7878) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat There's a center of some sort for the blind on Robert St. on the west side. Across from the Red Cross offices.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 10:34pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7754 of 7878) Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! Oh I see where you're going with that thought, Jammin. I could throw a frisbee, a CD, a floppy disk, a medallion and they could be discs or disks depending.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 10:40pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7764 of 7878) Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! Looks like it will definately be outside at Phalen...as it's not at the Rec Center...or is it? Hmmmmmmmmmm Nah...zone 4
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:40pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7765 of 7878) The Gateway trail goes right along Frost Avenue......Disk!!! Robert Frost "The Windmill" HMMMMMMMM
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:42pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7767 of 7878) Isnt that the part where Day street joins the lake too?
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 10:43pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7769 of 7878) www.finddru.com It is.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 11:04pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7816 of 7878) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat Someone in live chat is talking about a Random Park on Long Lake Road in Mounds View. Does one of the clues mention a view anywhere? Random from the cover of the Archie comic.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 11:11pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7830 of 7878) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat Random Park. 5214 Long Lake Road. Mounds View 55112 Ramsey County
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 11:13pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7833 of 7878) Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat Random, because that's what Jughead is saying on the cover of the Archie comic, and something about view in a clue? Other than that, I don't know.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 11:34pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7851 of 7878) OK I brushed my teeth and the gas drew me back.......This is it now: Random Park is right by my Kids' high school in Mounds View....I have no idea why they would think it was there but I can sure drive by there on my way to work tomorrow. There are Ridge, Eastwood, Rainbow, Sunnyside sts.... Here is a link that shows you on the map approx where it is......scroll down to the map and it is #14....very small. HMMMMM>....... http://www.ci.mounds-view.mn.us/ords/720.pdf
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 11:42pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7854 of 7878) Irondale High School and Edgewood Middle school are right there and the Mermaid bowling alley and dinner place is down the street from edgewood...There are certainly ball fields of all types but none of the street names fit.........
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 12:20am Feb 2, 2004 PST (# 7872 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. Girls are happy to dance!DANCING LADY ORCHID- WordNet Dictionary Definition:[n]any orchid of the genus Oncidium: characterized by slender branching sprays of small yellow and brown flowers; often grown as houseplants. Synonyms: butterfly orchid, butterfly plant, oncidium See Also: genus Oncidium, orchid, orchidaceous plant
Ian - (PFID:13d310) - 01:33am Feb 2, 2004 PST (# 7878 of 7882) Tilt at a windmill’s meaning is to prepare to engage in battle. A standstill is a dead end. A plump pitcher was Babe Ruth, and the poem Windmill was written by Longfellow. In Battle Creek park at the corner of Ruth St. and Longfellow Ave. the road dead ends at a parking lot at the elementary school. Just up the hill from the parking lot is an open and wooded area of the park. Tilt for Phalen is referring to Arcade Street which runs along the West side of the park. Windmill at a standstill translates into Wheelock Parkway which runs along the South end of the park and includes the front entrance. Quite honestly I am not sure at this point what the Lakely reference is going to truly mean for either park, but it will come. Good Luck; and gas up the rig, you may be doing some traveling trying to make sense of it all! http://www.hometownsource.com/features/wintercarnival/blog.html
MOM* - (PFID:13d410) - 03:52am Feb 2, 2004 PST (# 7882 of 7882) emmy & hannah's and natalies.... Well, that wouldn't be too bad for me :) Just quick before I head out the door. FWIW, the "flower" street names don't run IN to Phalen. They're not too far south, but the closest ones would be in the Southern part of the park - south of Wheelock. I'm thinking the clue is saying it's in a wooded area - grouping of trees. Catch y'all later - drive careful!
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:28pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4148 of 4761)
Clueless Joe must be a referance to the story Souchary did after the poor clues from last years hunt, he ripped the clue writer pretty good.
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:30pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4149 of 4761)
Bark, by a tree.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:31pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4150 of 4761)
Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
Well, it's in a park.
KOP - (PFID:4d9c71cb) - 09:33pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4151 of 4761)
AKA redram
maybe not st.paul
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:38pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4155 of 4761)
Same clue writer as last year.
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:40pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4156 of 4761)
Prattle rhymes with Battle!!!
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 10:38pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4207 of 4768)
Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on!
Prattle====Chatter or babble ok we got a new cluewriter
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 10:38pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4208 of 4768)
but not as new as I used to be
The other thing that came up on my google search of prattle was a pagan newsleter by that name. There are a lot of Pagan cerominies that take place in lilydale park. just food for thought. but don,t take it to seriously this early
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 10:55pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4221 of 4776)
Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on!
I say Hidden Falls still, BARK=== dog park across the river (roxys favorite)or maybee they are hidding it in a Dog food can. Prattle=== babble====babling brook====Hidden Falls,The "Precious" is mine
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 10:59pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4225 of 4776)
Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet!
dog park could also refer to that arlington park, or still battle creek, because they have those trails where you can take your dog.
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 11:02pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4227 of 4776)
Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet!
area park... I'm not buying that it's a saint paul park for sure yet
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 11:07pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4230 of 4776)
Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet!
btw, did anyone notice the digging dog in the logo on the official PP treasure hunt page? I thought that was slightly interesting....
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 11:12pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4238 of 4776)
Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet!
just the reference to bark in the first clue, and a dog, why a dog in the logo? Okay granted dogs dig... I dunno, guess I'm not too used to the logo changes yet, I just thought it was weird, something to keep a mental note of.
SnowJester - (PFID:2fce4437) - 11:34pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4259 of 4776)
I think it's interesting that people aren't discussing the baseball references. unfortunately, i'll have to get back into it tomorrow cuz i'm just too tired and i need to get my sleep now before this gets outta hand.
it was nice to see everyone tonight! we all had a ton of fun.
goodnight and scd's.
SnowJester - (PFID:2fce4437) - 11:41pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4267 of 4776)
"say it ain't so, clueless joe"
obvious reference to shoeless joe jackson. also, joe soucheray has written a lot of columns on the joys of the open air ball-park.
ok, but i really have to go to bed. 'nite.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 11:45pm Jan 24, 2004 PST (# 4275 of 4776)
In order to understand the celebrations, you first have to understand the community.
This is what I think that Clueless Joe is referring to:
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/special_packages/winter_carnival/treasure_hunt/7525603.htm
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 12:49am Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4287 of 4807)
My guess(es)? A park that has the same name as an *area*, i.e., Battle Creek, Phalen, Mounds, and... Sadly - Como.
Joe, I pray it ain't so! SAY IT AIN'T SO! Not agian! Not this year! Not Como!
BlockHead - (PFID:4d9c7ea3) - 07:23am Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4328 of 4807)
is it safe to go look'in yet?
First clue means nothing! if it was hidden before this last dusting, most of the open spaces might be eliminated? My guess might be bark in a wooded,grassy area. Its never easy, when you think you've got it the'll humbilize you.
Onthesearch - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 09:16am Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4365 of 4809)
http://www.thefirestonefamily.com/2004medallion.html
Ok guys... i'm going to share....
Clueless Joe-----Shoeless Joe
"Say it aint so?"
Thats all i'm saying :)
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 10:07am Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4378 of 4809)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet.
Ok, that scary guy PDG picture was just plain disturbing.
Someone wanted to know why they have a dog digging on the PP logo. If you think about the PP billboards you see around town, they feature PP writers with a dog them. One is "Scoop Dog", another is "Junkyard Dog." Joe Soucheray's says "Speak boy, speak!" So I would guess they're just carrying on with the dog theme. "bark" in clue might actually be a reference to that.
Violent J - (PFID:13d365) - 11:34am Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4397 of 4830)
We dont care what happens now...We swing our hatchets and we're proud...Painted faces in the crowd...The carnival will carry on...
could "bark" refer to the off-lease dog area at Arlington?
Thats what I was thinkin too... that or near a Humane Society.. though its prolly putting too much into just one word.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 11:50am Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4405 of 4830)
Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
I sure as heck hope that the "say it ain't so, clueless Joe" clue isn't a reference to the proposed ball park site! I'm not going anywhere near that Ice Palace again!
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 11:52am Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4407 of 4830)
bring it on
the clue reminds me of "pirate talk". Any caribbean style parks around st paul?
Diggin'4_it_Again - (PFID:4d9c76e4) - 12:18pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4427 of 4830)
Just keep diggin' just keep diggin' just keep diggin' diggin' diggin'
HI REG
Has anyone ever heard the term 'bark' used as a small boat with oars?
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 12:34pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4443 of 4830)
bring it on
Usual: thanks for the link to Joe's column. The first clue would certainly tie into that column!
Could "Joe" also refer to a coffee place nearby?
abrogado - (PFID:4d9c6d0c) - 04:52pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4524 of 4831)
Prattle
Every year I try to read too much into the first clue...
Prattle = Battle?
Bark = Leashless dog area?
SASG = first letters of streets that if extended the intersection of which give us the park?
But, this year I'm not going to try to read anything into the first clue. :-)
abrogado - (PFID:4d9c6d0c) - 04:57pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4525 of 4831)
Prat´tle
Noun 1. prattle - idle or foolish and irrelevant talk
blether, chin music, idle talk, prate
chatter, yack, yak, yakety-yak, cackle - noisy talk
Verb 1. prattle - speak (about unimportant matters) rapidly and incessantly
KOP - (PFID:4d9c71cb) - 05:05pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4527 of 4831)
AKA redram
all the cap words in the clue are...Say Clueless And Stop Go
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 07:28pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4565 of 4843)
Sam-I-am
It just doesn't seem to corrispond correctly with the photo - I was just thinking - palace -- Ice palace - might be a nice tie in - so I went to look at the map and the photo - and it just didn't jive (or maybe it does, and my brain is viewing it in reverse)
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 07:36pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4572 of 4843)
Sam-I-am
Palace Park
Palace park is located in west 7th - Bay on east, Jefferson on North, Palace on south, View on west... Vance Street - cut through the center (WTF???)
Anybody??
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 08:26pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4612 of 4834)
Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on!
Sorry all I just got on why does people think Palace park?? Also if the Bark has a reference to a dog park then at Hidden falls is right across the river from the piggest dog park in the state. I take my dog there at times, I liked idea someone had of "say it aint so " refering to a movie about some animal shelter worker.
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 08:57pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4647 of 4835)
OK KID GIVE ME THE NEXT CLUE!!!
Hey Im thinkin a different park cause area park just like conway
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:04pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4654 of 4835)
Sam-I-am
Here is a fun noodle
What about this (how bout for diggin deep)
Joe Jackson Jefferson ... Jackson elem. School is near Scheffer park,, which is near university ave .. go U?
Clue 2
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:11pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4666 of 4835)
Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
By the way. Where was the green donut hidden in the Archie comic? I guessed near a library, but never heard a location.
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 09:13pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4672 of 4838)
Hmmmmm Clue #2 doesn't really say much.... other than maybe what the puck's hidden is green.. or they're referring to money being green.. lol I dunno.
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:17pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4678 of 4838)
The guys in the Archie comics were Reggie, Archie and Jughead. One of the girls was Veronica, what was the other girls name?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:17pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4679 of 4838)
Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
Betty. And they went to Riverdale High School
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:21pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4690 of 4838)
Wasn't there a soap commercial for "Irish Spring" soap saying something about the Emerald Isle?
Homeless Artist_ - (PFID:4d9c80bb) - 09:24pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4692 of 4838)
All eyes open for green objects
ok, the doughnut in the comic is green, The ice palace on PP front page is green. ...
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:27pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4694 of 4838)
but not as new as I used to be
Ireland is often refered to as the emerald isle is it by an irish pub?
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:29pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4696 of 4838)
Sam-I-am
Emerald Inn
Emerald inn - in Maplewood -across from Lakewood Hills park...
could the green just be refering to the money you could win?
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 09:33pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4700 of 4838)
Hey guys... what about the Emerald Inn... isn't there one of those hotels off of McKnight and 94 right by Battle Creek???
The Usual Suspect - (PFID:2fce3e19) - 09:35pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4704 of 4838)
I believe in God, but the only thing that scares me is Keyser Soze
Emerald Inn of Maplewood 2025 County Rd D East, Saint Paul
thats all I could find
Artemis The Huntress - (PFID:13d315) - 09:37pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4706 of 4838)
Still searching...
an object this week
so are they telling us it should be easy to find, that it should be found this week?
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 09:40pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4710 of 4838)
5 year lurker
http://www.archiecomics.com/pops_shop/dailycomics/dailycomic.html
This website publishes the recent Archie comic strips that are published in the newspaper. Maybe we need to find out what Jughead is talking about in one of the comic strips. I went back about 10 days, and about half of them have Archie & jughead together
If you switch around the 3rd paragraph a little you get:
Like Archie,this week
you seek an object
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 09:46pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4716 of 4838)
I just think that the medallion will be found with an Archie comic. But it doesn't hurt to dig to keep it interesting.
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 09:52pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4718 of 4838)
"... After his caveman cousin thaws out from an icy slumber, Jughead teaches the Neanderthal ... the
lady bird of his dreams when he finds a brilliant emerald"
From the movie Pebble and the Penguin
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 09:52pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4719 of 4838)
Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on!
HEY TERRY concentrate on what Jughead is saying cuz it says Jughead has spoken!!
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 09:54pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4723 of 4838)
Emerald Isle Immigration Center (EIIC) is a not-for-profit organization established in 1988 and committed to providing services to Irish immigrants in the United States. It is an initiative of the Irish immigrant and Irish American population of New York City.
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 10:11pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4733 of 4840)
Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on!
Found it Ah HA HA HA Number 78 archie and Jughead look for the Green doughnut for the $5000 inspired by a MInnesota event, how do I post http://www.thiscomicsworthreading.com/reviews/2004/0110archie.html
kaw - (PFID:2fce45f5) - 10:19pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4737 of 4840)
Are there any doughnut shops close to any of the parks?
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 10:22pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4740 of 4840)
Sam-I-am
Krispy Krack
is Krispy Krack - I mean Kreme doing any kind of promos?
Their logo is green - donuts - yum.....
(thinking about going to krispy krack right now :-)
JOE!
Diggin'4_it_Again - (PFID:4d9c76e4) - 10:24pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4742 of 4840) Just keep diggin' just keep diggin' just keep diggin' diggin' diggin'
The new krisy kreme by battle creek and their signs are green
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:25pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4744 of 4840)
Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
I just think that the hunt would pretty much be limited to people who read the comic and knew about the green donut. I'm not going to worry too much about the content of the comic book.
grn_i_grl - (PFID:2fce3e48) - 10:30pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4748 of 4840)
It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others
http://www.comicxposure.com/product_info.php?products_id=2794&osCsid=f7a53a1a6865265a625dad232020275f
comic cover
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 10:51pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4770 of 4840)
Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on!
I need to know what Jughead says in the commic clue says Jughead has spoken
grn_i_grl - (PFID:2fce3e48) - 10:52pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4775 of 4840)
It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others
last year a bunch of people were hung up on clue #8's last line: 'Lure me precious to your soul' as a reference to the two towers movie but based on the explanation for that clue this reasoning seemed unlikely and as the writers have never referenced a movie etc it it seems doubtful they would start
Homeless Artist_ - (PFID:4d9c80bb) - 10:58pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4779 of 4840)
What Jughead says
On the cover at least
"And he can't even find the REMOTE"
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 11:03pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4786 of 4840)
HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe.........
Hmmm..... cuz I stumbled across Archie Fisher, who contributed to BBC
The first black woman to find the puck - (PFID:4d9c81b3) - 11:09pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 4792 of 4840)
I just gotta get it
Just a thought Green Isle, MN a city by mille lacs I think
Kitty 2003 - (PFID:2fce3be9) - 02:32am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4831 of 4840)
Just remember the clues all fit into 3 categories: What it's in, what park it's in (landmarks etc.) and where it is in that park. The simplest explanation is usually the right one (except for last year!)
(From Invitational thread)
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:53pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 2259 of 2273)
Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
Someone at the live chat is talking about there being a Palace Park in the comic book. And there have been palaces at Lake Phalen and they took the ice from Lake Phalen this year. Hey! I might be a believer!
From “let the hunt begin thread”
Homeless Artist_ - (PFID:4d9c80bb) - 03:49pm Jan 25, 2004 PST (# 16 of 16)
Ball "Park"?
There was an artical about the stadium proposal next to the first clue in the Paper. That could be an "area park"
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 05:46am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4849 of 5363)
"Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?"
Forsythe Pendelton Jones =a.k.a. Jughead
Jughead is perpetually hungry, he is always eating if not loafing
poster boy for weirdness
sharp mind behind weirdness and Archie often comes to Jughead for help with solving his dilemmas
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 05:48am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4850 of 5363)
"Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?"
Sounds like it's in something green like mitten or green tire swing or childs playground item. Could also mean it't out in a grass area
THX 1138 - (PFID:13d2c9) - 06:31am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4856 of 5363)
Hoping my Treasure Hunters Guide isn't mistaken for an almanac.
Maybe they changed the color of the medallion?
oriongirl79 - (PFID:2fce3de5) - 07:02am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4860 of 5363) love this time of year! morning kiddies.
How about riverdale gang = riverside.. that was my first instinct with the archie stuff.
i'll have to think some more on these. :o)
good luck y'all!
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 08:10am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4870 of 5365)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet.
So what parks have Irish bars nearby?
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 08:12am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4871 of 5365)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet.
I'm thinking there is one on Burns Ave. across from the wooded part of Indian Mounds as it approaches Highway 61.
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 08:13am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4872 of 5365)
It's amazing how quiet it is around here kinda erie...but I suppose give it 2 more clues and I won't be able to keep up. I'm thinking it is either not in a St. Paul park but in a Ramsey County Park possibly one of the parks that boarder St. Paul and another city..I also think you need to see something green from where the medallion is. A green water tower...a green house...a green picnic bench could be a million things...I think the reference to Archie is also kind of just a way of saying look we made it into the comics. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it...until 11 tonight anyways. I'm off to study.
medallion queen - (PFID:2fce4021) - 08:16am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4873 of 5365)
The bar across the street from mounds is Obbs
oriongirl79 - (PFID:2fce3de5) - 08:20am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4874 of 5365) love this time of year! green
green could also be the greens of the highland park golf course.
but i'm thinking pub too. :o)
as far as the comic that seems way too deep for the average treasure hunter to get.. but i like the reference.. and it's cool we made it into the comics!
Macdaddy - (PFID:2fce43b1) - 08:28am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4875 of 5365)
Searching for order in chaos.
green object seems to indicate what it is in not near?? If it was near then "this week" would make no sense because by Fri we are looking closer then just a water tower.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 08:30am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4876 of 5365)
Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
Could Obbs be short for OB? Like O'Brien?
Dharma LaKreg - (PFID:2fce4129) - 08:33am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4877 of 5365)
half time rec is irish bar on front near calvary cemetary (where John Ireland is buried), only big park near there is como
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 08:41am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4883 of 5365)
This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne.
mornin' all... so what are the thoughts on the Archie references? I think probably wrapped inside some comic pages and stuffed in a green box of some kind?? I slogged back a few hundred messages and didn't see any thoughts on it.
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 08:44am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4889 of 5365)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. Indeed...that was recorded 3 years ago...when they were new I thought that voice was rather unmistakeable. so what are the thoughts on the Archie references? Unless something comes up later that seems to be a logical tie-in, I'm going to assume they just wanted to reference the fact that the Archie comics based an issue on our hunt, and they used looking for something green as the common point with which to tie it in.
SNAKE88 - (PFID:4d9c6c9e) - 08:49am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4891 of 5365)
What about Community Park by the Clover Bar
Mr. Med Hunter - (PFID:13d352) - 08:55am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4893 of 5365)
Snake88 wants to hunt in Vadnais Heights!
BTW, Community Park is a very nice park!
SNAKE88 - (PFID:4d9c6c9e) - 09:06am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4896 of 5365)
Its a way sweet park on county road f
SNAKE88 - (PFID:4d9c6c9e) - 09:07am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4897 of 5365)
Big park too
SNAKE88 - (PFID:4d9c6c9e) - 09:18am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4902 of 5365)
http://www.ci.vadnais-heights.mn.us/rec_map.htm
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 09:21am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4904 of 5365)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
emerald
gem lake?
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 10:32am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4916 of 5365)
This year we're gonna find it!
May I ask where the heck is Community Park? Can't find it anywhere.
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 10:35am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4917 of 5365)
Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet!
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&countryid=250&addtohistory=&address=community+park&city=falcon+heights&state=MN&zipcode=&submit=Get+Map
I was there once this summer, nice park, but it's recently been renovated, while I"m not counting it out, I have my doubts it's there, just doesn't feel right.
BlockHead - (PFID:4d9c7ea3) - 11:09am Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4923 of 5378)
if you think i'm slogg'in como again, you've got another thing com'in
marthalier,acorn,schmidt kinda sets outer limits, but who knows?
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 12:52pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4938 of 5378)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
Jughead and Archie are also some kind of computer terms as per "hyper dictionary".
Wabbit - (PFID:13d98a) - 12:55pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4941 of 5378)
I sorta think Battle Creek too so far. (and maybe phalen for no particular reason)
The thought I had was that the town in the comic was Riverside. So, maybe by the river - Hidden Falls, anybody?
But, probably just a reference to something green perhaps.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 01:04pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4946 of 5378)
"Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?"
Archie could be the arch by Highland Park and jugheads favorite food is burgers "MAC" mac-groveland area?
Wabbit - (PFID:13d98a) - 01:05pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4947 of 5378)
Opps, I thought it was riverside, sorry.
I think Community park is the park north of the st paul campus at Cleveland and, and, Sorry, the name slips me. I went there in 1993 one night. At least, I think I did.
Wabbit - (PFID:13d98a) - 01:06pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4948 of 5378)
I think you can see views of the fairgrounda at community park if I remember right.
Well, I have been sitting here working at home all day. I need to get out and walk Might as well look for something green among the white.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 01:11pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4951 of 5378)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
Battle creek park is part of the "great river GREENING" project
_Homeless Artist_ - (PFID:4d9c80bb) - 01:58pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4958 of 5378)
Yoda is green, use the force
First Black Woman had a good idea about being able to find the green dounut but not the REMOTE (location?).
I like the Archie, Jughead, Veronica = internet protocals idea because it ties to "Gopher" the old FTP protocall. .. "Go You look..." -->Go U ---> Gopher U? Minneapolis : )
But anyway GOOD DAY!
I see green here, hey Green, what do you think of the green refence? grabs a Krispy Kream* Thanks Violent J. Fuel for the walk around my area.
...hmmm what if I look for Green m&m geo-cach this week.... would that bring me closer?
I do know about the geocaching club to anwser who asked. King Boreis is on there, and other cooler crew folks too.
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 02:01pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4959 of 5378)
This year we're gonna find it!
That project also deals with Phalen, Swede Hollow and just about every park along the river.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 02:25pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4966 of 5378)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
Could it refer to Archie Bunker of All in the Family?
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 02:28pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4967 of 5378)
Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet!
doubtin it.. specially not with the jughead mention in the same clue
SnowJester - (PFID:2fce4437) - 02:36pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 4968 of 5378) am the only one lost on this whole "community park" thing? i don't see where there is a reference to that in clue #2. also, do you think "Like Archie, you seek; an object this week" is the cluewriter making fun of us for being mad at short hunts and/or impossible hunts. Kinda like he's teasing us that it will be found this week and we'll all be left with nothing to do this weekend. maybe that makes no sense at all...maybe i just really don't like this guy.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 05:12pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5027 of 5413)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
John Ireland Blvd?
xenathewarrior - (PFID:4d9c82ba) - 05:51pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5041 of 5493)
Where is my precious???
Emerald Isle = Think Sonic the Hedgehog, which was created by Archie Comics. But what does this mean? Does anyone have any insight on this????
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 07:22pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5106 of 5494)
So I'm thinking we're all putting far too much thought into these clues. I was reading some of the old clues from years past, and none got too indeph, except for last years, which sucked.
I like Arlington-Arkwright still. it's a leashless dog park, it has a really nice baseball diamond, and it was home to my grade school baseball team, the St Patricks Fighting Irish. There's your Irish connection!
Actualy in all seriousness, St Pat's church is right up the road from A-A, so it's not off my radar yet, though no other parks really are either at this point.
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 08:54pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5158 of 5494)
but not as new as I used to be
Hi maureen
I thinl the 2nd clue was about the park it is in, not the puck itself. This week, the first week, the object we seek is the park. next week we seek the puck. What do you think??
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:38pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5220 of 5494)
but not as new as I used to be
anagram time
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:40pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5226 of 5494)
Lurk No More!
Sounds like an anagram in there somewhere. Could be a red herring from the sounds of it though.
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 09:41pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5229 of 5494)
HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe.........
Hmmm... maybe it's referring to a hospital or something (?)
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:46pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5237 of 5494)
"Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?"
How about word processor-help me anytime anyday but beware false advice?
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 09:46pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5238 of 5494)
HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe.........
maybe the false advice is that the fairgrounds are off limits?
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 09:46pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5239 of 5494)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
time: some kind of clock; first lines have to be a hospital nearby
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:46pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5240 of 5494)
Sam-I-am
MT Clue
This has just confirmed my suspecions..
Clue one - has some meat to it.. (lots of little tidbits)
Clue two - tells us that something is green (perhaps the hiding material) - but mostly filibuster to stretch out the hunt.
Clue three - more filler - one little nugget - haven't decided what that nugget is yet
Just my opinion ( but I always think I'm right!)
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 09:47pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5242 of 5494)
could maybe be court house???
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:47pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5243 of 5494)
"Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?"
Firehouse and firemen for help me anytime anyday
Juster - (PFID:2fce43bc) - 09:48pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5246 of 5494)
I think emergency services...police department, fire station...
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:50pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5248 of 5494)
Sam-I-am
Thinking...
Do you think the clue writer is making fun of all the bogus stuff that is posted on the boards - the fake clues, the fake Jayloc park, that kind of crap?
I think he is poking his stick though our cage!
The Usual Suspect - (PFID:2fce3e19) - 09:51pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5250 of 5494)
I believe in God, but the only thing that scares me is Keyser Soze
Prank? Perhaps. All
is fair. Like a prank 911 call
maureen hursey - (PFID:2fce4385) - 09:52pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5251 of 5494)
He is not playing tricks!
Well Maybe you have to find the first hand of tricks!
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:52pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5252 of 5494)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street
Firs tthing I thought of was a lifesaver...but Hariiet Island is ruled out, right??
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 09:53pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5255 of 5494)
In order to understand the celebrations, you first have to understand the community.
Harriet Island is out. It's in the rules this year.
Clever device - beware of false advice...a fortune telling machine? A fortune cookie? a ouija board?
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 09:53pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5256 of 5494)
This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne.
Love4Vino - Maybe you're right!! Maybe they have plants in the chatroom this year who are telling us another meaning the clues have (a clever device with false advice)
The only problem is...people who don't use the net would be left out in the cold with this clue so it would be kind of a waste of a clue. This is a tough one.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:55pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5258 of 5494)
Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
It's neither here nor there, it's everywhere
The Usual Suspect - (PFID:2fce3e19) - 09:55pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5260 of 5494)
I believe in God, but the only thing that scares me is Keyser Soze
the internet
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 09:56pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5261 of 5494)
This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne.
clever device that gives advice = chatroom.
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:57pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5262 of 5494)
Lurk No More!
This is probably noodling run amok, but the "It's neither here nor there" and "false advice" is saying that the object of the clue is not near this park. That would be kind of a twist on things. Maybe we're supposed to think there is a hospital/police station/firehouse nearby , but really there is not. AAAH.... my brain hurts!!!
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:57pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5264 of 5494)
Sam-I-am
How many people do you think - don't use a chat room? or don't hear false rumors about where it is?? not necesarily the internet I guess.
Lying has been refered to as a clever device..
hummm
What is on midway ?? any parks ... I am thinking Fair - there at the fair is a Midway...
medallion queen - (PFID:2fce4021) - 09:57pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5265 of 5494)
They still havent said if it's in st paul or ramsey county, which is usually in the 1st clue.Maybe that's what they mean by neither here nor there
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 10:00pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5269 of 5494)
HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe.........
hmmm... MQ good point... Phalen or BC?? both are on boudaries
Artemis The Huntress - (PFID:13d315) - 10:01pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5274 of 5494)
Still searching... Like a prank 911 call Thats what I'm thinking- that whole clue just gives us 911...an address maybe? or a date? Help me!you say. "Any time. Any day. Thats what you'd say if you called 911, and you can call any time any day. It's neither here nor there." where is 911? I'm sure there is abuilding, but the conversation takes place over the phone lines A quite clever device much more organized than having to make 3 seperate calls to the hospital, fire dept and police dept in case of a real emergency Prank? prank phone call
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 10:02pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5281 of 5494)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street
Without confirmation that it is a park in St. Paul, I would say that should def. be taken into consideration first...
Also, given that the med has been in 2 new parks in 5 years.. 1999 (conway) 2003 (merriam) Lets not rule out the possibility of a new park...maybe a new park outside STP
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 10:06pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5290 of 5494)
Just say no to O&O
It could possibly be a double meaning. One meaning is the net, a gentle jab at us from the cluewriter. This meaning wouldn't make the paper. There would be an official explanation that would. I think that's plausible.
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 10:06pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5291 of 5494)
PLEASE HELP FIND DRU @ www.finddru.com
Maybe its in a park by a hospital>>>>>>>>>>>Help!!!! thing
medallion queen - (PFID:2fce4021) - 10:08pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5297 of 5494)
It doesnt have to be fair & it wont be fair this year. Thats the last line of the clue
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 10:08pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5299 of 5494)
Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on!
Fairview its at Newel
Fairview its at Newel
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 10:08pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5300 of 5494)
Sam-I-am
OH god!
Midway runs right into COMO!
NO! Say it ain't so Joe!
It's at como!
yuck....
We all did say - it wasn't fair for it to be @ como 2 years close together...
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 10:08pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5302 of 5494)
This year we're gonna find it!
I admit Batlle Creek is my pick the help part of the clue could mean 911, well the zip for battle creek is 119. A big stretch, probably.
medallion queen - (PFID:2fce4021) - 10:08pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5303 of 5494)
Or maybe its a prank clue & it really means nothing at all!
Artemis The Huntress - (PFID:13d315) - 10:08pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5304 of 5494)
Still searching... MQ, I also now agree with your Ramsey/st. paul (here nor there) idea...it makes alot of sense. now thats interesting... if its not here, and its not there, could it be both? Phalen/Keller or BC! Maplewood side!
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 10:10pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5305 of 5494)
PLEASE HELP FIND DRU @ www.finddru.com
OH NO NOT COMO AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone quick.......check the FROG pond!!!!!!!!!!!!
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 10:25pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5343 of 5498)
HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe.........
Maybe the writer wants us to think that it could be on the boundaries and that is the false advice, meaning that it simply is just in St. Paul... an area park
Juster - (PFID:2fce43bc) - 10:25pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5344 of 5498)
Neither here nor there = a park that its never been at
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:32pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5361 of 5498)
Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
So, "Help me"is in quotes, and also "Any time. Any day. It's neither here nor there"
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:33pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5363 of 5498)
Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
So it sounds like the speaker is saying, I'll help you when you want. It's no big deal to me.
Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 10:38pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5366 of 5498)
For the LITERAL meaning of the clue, I think the clue reader is saying he/she needs help and the cluewriter is responding. If the reader was saying both lines, there would be a comma after "say" instead of a period.
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 10:39pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5368 of 5498)
Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on!
Any songs with ""Any time any day""" in them??????
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 10:40pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5369 of 5498)
HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe.........
If it's not here nor there, it's inbetween (?)
medallion queen - (PFID:2fce4021) - 10:41pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5370 of 5498)
Thats what I was thinking but in between what?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:42pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5372 of 5498)
Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
Well, if you want to get literal. It could be two people speaking. First one says, "Help me!" Help me! you say. is a sentence. Then the second person responds, "Any time. Any day. It's neither here nor there." ;)
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:43pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5374 of 5498)
Ice Palace 1937: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
The popular saying is: It's neither here nor there, it's everywhere
_Homeless Artist_ - (PFID:4d9c80bb) - 10:43pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5376 of 5498)
Comics by REX
nether heare nor there = it's not hidden yet because "they" like messing with us and all is fair.
Anagram for caps =
AHA PAPA I (Aha! paper eye) streeeeech
PAPA HA AI (papa HomelessArtist Artifical Intellegence) art-offical
AHA AI APP (Aha! Artifical Intelegence Application) + (clever device) = Gohpher, Archie, Veronica
Regalman - (PFID:2fce42c3) - 10:45pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5382 of 5498)
Anyone think the clever device may be the hunter's guide, and the false advice would be a park or area not listed in the guide?
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 10:47pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5383 of 5498)
Sam-I-am
Ok - I am sick now - COMO
Neither here nor there - (midway) thanks queen
midway runs into como
we all prattled and barked about como last year
the humane society near como
the frog @ the park is green...
How many more ways do you want me to tie in como
YOU as in U turn (back to como this year)
ick ick ick ick ick ... quick! Someone give me a better reason for another park... ick ick ick
Regalman - (PFID:2fce42c3) - 10:51pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5402 of 5498)
Considering merriam, newell and como twice in the last few years, it better not be in the midway or como area. Too many other places are due.
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 10:54pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5409 of 5498)
HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe.........
maybe area refers to Regions hospital and todays clue
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 10:54pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5411 of 5498)
Sam-I-am
NO # 37 is right..
I am just a bad picture looker . I couldn't find the damn horseshoes which were going to bite me - as they were right there in the photo...
I just had an idea... ALL IS FAIR.... MAPLEWOOD IS FAIR GAME AS A HIDING SPOT
medallion queen - (PFID:2fce4021) - 10:55pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5413 of 5498)
Its probably at mounds beacuse none of the clues point there so its neither her nor there to all of the parks that we've mentioned
Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 10:56pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5414 of 5498)
I think this clue means "Keep an open mind. It is not going to be where you expect it to be"
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 10:58pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5419 of 5498)
PLEASE HELP FIND DRU @ www.finddru.com
Also. whats up with the cowboy talk........Yer.........or that could possibly be southern too. Ideas????
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 11:04pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5430 of 5498)
Year #8, maybe I'll find it THIS time
I'm going to the Palac tomorrow, looking forward to it, and to Rice for the ice sculptures...
What about this...
"How's your diggin' goin'?" — "Not bad, but I'm kinda just to and fro, y'know?"
That is from the "Cooler Crew Treasure Hunters Glossary"...
. It's neither here nor there -- made me think of that.. but it means nothing...
Are there any "Dog parks" in Ramsey?
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 11:13pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5438 of 5498)
Sam-I-am
Arlington - arkwright is Ramsey Dog park!
Violent J - (PFID:13d365) - 11:13pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5439 of 5498)
The Flying Hamster of DOOM Rains Coconuts On Your Pitiful City!
Hell yeah.. sure am, Step.
Maureen...I cant make heads or tails of it...cept for maybe the "fair" word...
I know its prolly putting too much into it, but I was thinkin about the word "green", possibly meaning "New".... and then this fair thing.. maybe the state fair is in site of the hiding spot...hell maybe its on the fair grounds... who knows... or.. fair, could also mean "well"
Newell?
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 11:15pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5441 of 5498)
Sam-I-am
I just thought of something....
Emerald Isle ....
Green Bay ...
Do you think the puck is wrapped in somthing for green bay packers????
SnowJester - (PFID:2fce4437) - 11:17pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5446 of 5498)
We were thinking along that line too. an area park could also reference a park with a lot of actual area...aka: Phalen, Battle Creek, Highland, Hidden falls/crosby, and (EEEEK!!!) como.
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 11:18pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5448 of 5498)
Year #8, maybe I'll find it THIS time
There, that's better...
THe first clue made me think of a off leash dog park (just cuz of the "bark"..
4 in Ramsey
Woodview, Rice Creek,Battle Creek, Otter Lake
1 in St. Paul (Arlington/ Arkwright)
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 11:37pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5486 of 5498)
Year #8, maybe I'll find it THIS time
I just had a thought.
What about Highland?
Green Isle.. isn't HIghland == Ireland (or scotland??)
also, green... DIsk golf.
Help, and time.. the police station
just a thougt
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 11:41pm Jan 26, 2004 PST (# 5488 of 5498)
Sam-I-am
Close is all relative
How about south saint anthony's play ground.....
playground - prattle
Saints are irish...
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 08:41am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5511 of 5690)
anyone know if emerald street runs into hidden falls.I know it runs into desnoyer rec center right near a golf course
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 08:49am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5512 of 5690)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
Hey Matt, i looked up that street yesterday on Mapquest and thought it looked far away from the park, but you never know. Last year that French Imersion school was a clue for Como site, and it was blocks away.....
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 08:54am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5514 of 5690)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. I just had an idea... ALL IS FAIR.... MAPLEWOOD IS FAIR GAME AS A HIDING SPOT! I think that's what Clue #3 is saying.
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 09:50am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5523 of 5690)
theres a emerald inn in maplewood on 694 and white bear ave does any one know the name of the park&lake 1 block north of 694 at wht bear ave????
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:58am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5525 of 5690)
Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet! theres a emerald inn in maplewood on 694 and white bear ave does any one know the name of the park&lake 1 block north of 694 at wht bear ave???? Lakewood Hills Park
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 10:01am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5526 of 5690)
I like the fair game refering to Maplewood. It causes me to lean towards Phalen and BC. I saw somewhere the take that "All is fair in love and War" which is written by Francis Edwards which could lead to Frank St that runs into Lake (Edward) Phalen Park. Could be onto something there....
the oysterking - (PFID:4d9c836e) - 10:26am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5531 of 5690) am the oysterking fool! archies??
wasnt there an archies bar on arcade??
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:31am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5533 of 5690)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
There's an Archie's Bar in Hopkins. Don't remember if there was ever one on Arcade.
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 11:45am Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5539 of 5690)
I'm not sure on the Archie's bar theroy. I can't think of one, and that's my hood right there on Arcade. But as of now if I were to take a shot at where it was in Phalen I'd say by a tree where Earl St should go through just South East of the baseball fields.
I'm curious what the address are around there? anything 911. I know there's a clinic that's 911 E Maryland across from the old Knowlan's supermarket that's not far from Phalen, but that might be streaching it.
Course it could be at Como again too for all I really know at this point....
the oysterking - (PFID:4d9c836e) - 12:06pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5545 of 5690) am the oysterking fool! archies
some on here told me there used to be an archies on arcade he thinks its called pickles now and theres a lockwood playground nearby
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 12:23pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5546 of 5690)
Ya, I know Lockwood. It's between Forest and Arcade off Maryland (maybe near the address 911?) It's got two baseball fields, a new playground and about a half block from Phalen Elementry school (prattle and bark, kids on the playground from Lockwood?)
Keep an eye out for refrences that fit Mendota, kinds of flowers (both the cross streets by the park) or Polish (st Casmir a polish catholic church is about 2 blocks away)
That's my rundown of Lockwood. Sounds as if it could fit...
Wabbit - (PFID:13d98a) - 12:46pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5548 of 5690)
I haven't been sloggin enough today, but I just feel a sense of foreboding with this clue.
I was just looking in the dictionary.
A device is also a scheme to deceive.
Funny, but a prank besides a mischevious act is also to dress or adorn gaily or showily.
Well, I have to leave the house, once a day, so I best get on with it and go out and look somewhere.
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 01:06pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5565 of 5690)
Representing the MidWest
HEY EVERYONE!!!!!
So whats the ideas on clue 3? address of 911? or how about that onstar device on those cars to get help?
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 06:03pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5626 of 5694)
My 11 year old thought there was a Dr. Suess reference in todays clue. "nither here nor there" from Green Eggs and ham. Any thoughts?
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 06:39pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5629 of 5694)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
Snow! My son said the same thing to me today. We just did not remember the book; do you think the clue makers would repeat the Dr Suess reference from last year?? (Horton)
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:11pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5699 of 5716)
Sam-I-am
GO U LOOK??
Look in the park for a U or a sign that says GO????
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:22pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5723 of 5766)
This year we're gonna find it!
Sounds like BC to me and I'll bet Soucheray is the new clue writer!
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 09:22pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5724 of 5766)
Ugh... ok so it's somewhere stony and sandy... a lake maybe?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:23pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5725 of 5766)
"Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?"
East Side West Side? Meet in the middle sounds like the river stony and sandy place, rides on boats--east side river Saint Paul--west side river Minnesnapolis!
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:23pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5727 of 5766)
Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet!
shoreview, I like that
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:24pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5729 of 5766)
"Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?"
Hidden Falls?
Artemis The Huntress - (PFID:13d315) - 09:24pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5731 of 5766)
Still searching...
Argh! Como yet again?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:25pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5735 of 5766)
"Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?"
What ya think all about the river?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:27pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5738 of 5766)
"Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?"
Riverdale refers to Archie comic setting--bouncing ball follow towards Minneapolis Basketball, Football
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 09:28pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5741 of 5766)
Representing the MidWest
east and west could be como
but clue 3 says they could be playing a prank on us
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:28pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5742 of 5766)
Sam-I-am
East side - west side
Same park different cites - different sides...?
Bouncing ball - tennis courts, basketball courts????
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:29pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5743 of 5766)
Lurk No More!
What's the big 10K race down by the Ford plant in the Spring by the Ford plant? It runs by Hidden Falls, doesn't it?
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 09:29pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5744 of 5766)
Representing the MidWest
um
isnt battle creek in 2 different cities?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:30pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5745 of 5766)
"Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?"
Saint Thomas-- Irish Catholic University?
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:35pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5754 of 5766) Lurk No More!
Stony and sandy place=sandstone as in sandstone bluffs? Hidden falls? Anywhere else?
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:35pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5756 of 5766)
Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet!
I'm not so sure about battle creek, it sounds good, but in all honesty, the clues make me think of something definately outside saint paul
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 09:35pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5757 of 5766)
SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE
Is phalen maked east and west like como
brassmonkey - (PFID:4d9c8251) - 09:36pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5758 of 5766)
Avid hunter of 20 years
Sandstone cliffs in Battle creek
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:36pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5759 of 5766)
Sam-I-am
I think it's in phalen....
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:38pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5760 of 5766) Sam-I-am
Didn't they used to do the snow dog races @ phalen....
take your honey for a ride. To the swift belongs the race
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:38pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5761 of 5766)
"Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?"
Evildoer yeah that Marathon runs right down towards hidden Falls and past Saint Thomas-- been there seen them
Violent J - (PFID:13d365) - 09:39pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5763 of 5766)
The Flying Hamster of DOOM Rains Coconuts On Your Pitiful City!
Yeah.. they used to do that... plus.. I like it cause of the "sand" reference... although it might be nothing... Phalen is the only park with a beach.. at least that I can think of
Tootin4U - (PFID:4d9c812a) - 09:39pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5765 of 5766)
mounds park and cherokee have the "sandstone" bluffs, but i dont think they would give a big clue like that so early on
Shaggy 2 Dope - (PFID:1ff4ca28) - 09:40pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5766 of 5766)
The dead probably out number the living 10,000 to 1.
Phalen has east shore drive
Take your honey for a ride could refer to cruisin round the lake like a lot of them young uns like doing...
and they have car races on the lake
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:41pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5767 of 5796)
Lurk No More!
Love4Vino...they also normally have the car races on Lake Phalen during the winter carnival...but not this year since they harvsted all the ice for the palace.
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 09:41pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5768 of 5796)
Sam-I-am
Phalen has golf course too - Sand dunes "fair" way to play on.
Rock walls & Stone planters - Stone bridge (all in ZONE 1 of Hunters map)
Violent J - (PFID:13d365) - 09:45pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5773 of 5796)
The Flying Hamster of DOOM Rains Coconuts On Your Pitiful City!
Thought..
Come One Come All....
Circus???
where has the circus been going?? The State Fair Collisium.. not only that, but isnt that place green?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:47pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5778 of 5796)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
I still like the lyrics to East Side, West Side. The tot's playing ring around rosie? London Bridge is falling down? A bridge that came down? Where was that bridge that was replaced last year that people were posting pictures of?
ThoseMedallingKids - (PFID:13d2e4) - 09:49pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5782 of 5796)
I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for ThoseMedallingKids!
Circus training academy at Highland Park
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:52pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5791 of 5796)
Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet!
there's an adventure park that appears to be inside the fairgrounds
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 09:55pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5793 of 5796)
No More Hedda Gabler Goulash!
Is everybody totally SURE the fair is a no-no? After all- they've hidden it there in the past..
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:56pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5795 of 5796)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
All I know is that people have gone out there during previous hunts, and have been kicked out
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 09:56pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5796 of 5796)
<--- Creepiest avatar yet.
OT, are you thinking of the Earl Street bridge? That's the one I posted some pictures of.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:57pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5797 of 5805)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
Yeah, that must be it. I'm just tying a bridge falling down to that. Are there any parks around there?
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:57pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5798 of 5805)
Bring on the Hunt! Remember Harriet!
adventure park, it's right south of the minnesota state fair speedway
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:58pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5799 of 5805)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
Is that the one with the big statues? Isn't that a private park?
The_Rock401 - (PFID:4d9c81a3) - 09:58pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5800 of 5805)
This hunt is smelling more and more like Phalen. Not only is it overdue (21 years and counting), but the "take your honey for a ride" could hint at the SPWC sleigh and cutter rally at Phalen. Bouncing ball is the golf course.
The fairgrounds are not owned by St. Paul, Ramsey County, or the state, although one could argue whether it's a park. Adventure Park is the block with all the big extreme rides during the fair (the Ejection Seat, Skyscraper, etc.). Just a block of sod the rest of the year.
Would the St. Paul campus of the U of M be a legal hiding spot? That is public land, and in Ramsey County.
As for the auto racing on the lake, it's on the slate for the weekend of February 7-8, but a location is TBD.
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 10:00pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5801 of 5805)
No More Hedda Gabler Goulash!
well- it was an elimination noodle. heh
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 10:01pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5802 of 5805)
SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE
there is no speedway, And I was kicked out of there years back no way its the fair. the fair is a waste of time
Violent J - (PFID:13d365) - 10:01pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5803 of 5805)
The Flying Hamster of DOOM Rains Coconuts On Your Pitiful City!
Duluth and Case is close to the earl stree bridge... and so is Margaret..
Why you thinkin bout that?
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 10:07pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5814 of 5828)
Sam-I-am
Is Phalen the one with the bus stop shaped like a U??
Someone said that earlier somewhere - but I can't remember if it's phalen or not!
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:08pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5816 of 5828)
You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe.
Phalen
I also like PHalen.
East Side, West side...
Wheelock Parkway goes right to it, and changes from East Wheelock to West Wheelock very near there.
I like the beach too, and that the races are normally there.
Violent J - (PFID:13d365) - 10:08pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5817 of 5828)
The Flying Hamster of DOOM Rains Coconuts On Your Pitiful City!
that "was" phalen. the bus turnaround is gone now. they closed off the end of Forest, so you cant get through now.
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 10:14pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5824 of 5828)
PLEASE HELP FIND DRU @ www.finddru.com
I think this is the 1st clue relating to area. I think the previous ones told us it was in a park, and hidden in a green cellphone. (box or case or maybe a empty shell to a cell phone ).
Love4Vino - (PFID:2fce4c3d) - 10:18pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5832 of 5848)
Sam-I-am
OK - so Phalen fits (for me) this way...
Go You look in an area park (out of saint paul) go to the U (u-turn?)
or maybe a Uturn into the past - since it hasn't been there for a while, or maybe even --- since the ice trucks Kept going in u turns from phalen to palace - phalen to palace to build the IP.
I still think clue #2 - only tells us it's in something green-- I am really liking my greenbay idea though...
Quite clever device - the stuff to take the ice out of the lake - beware the hole in the lake - beware false advice = false (adv) ICE??
Help me - we helped build the palace = DAY AND NIGHT SHIFTS!!!!
Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 10:20pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5834 of 5848)
Hey Snake, StarLightWBL!
I am taking this clue literally.
Sandstone!!!
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 10:20pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5835 of 5848)
<--- Creepiest avatar yet.
Sandstone==BC in my book.
Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 10:22pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5839 of 5848)
Yeah Frosti. I think this is a park clue, not a location clue. If it is at BC, I think it is going to be really far away from the sandstone.
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 10:29pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5846 of 5848)
<--- Creepiest avatar yet.
Y???
I got nothing pointing me to Phalen. I could make it work if I really wanted to:
Emerald Isle: Little island in phalen where the ice palace was
Help me: lifeguards
all is fair: can see the fairway of the golf course
east side, west side: wheelock
stony/sandy: beach & rock walls
Voila! Phalen, zone 3.
But in my heart, I don't buy it.
Artemis The Huntress - (PFID:13d315) - 10:39pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5855 of 5855)
Still searching...
The bouncing ball could refer to the orange(?) balls going acroos the river on a highwire (used for navigation?) at Hidden Falls. Or it could refer to Tennis or basketball. It reminds me of a sing-along song though- follow the bouncing ball....
Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 10:44pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5857 of 5857)
thinking recreational kind of ball, or something with more movement than the hidden falls navagational balls.
Those navagational balls have also already been used in a hunt. It was a much hated clue.
I like your idea of basketball and tennis. Those were along the lines of my thought. The possibilities are endless tho.
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 10:59pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5865 of 5865)
www.finddru.com
Did any of the old Hamms beer commercials use that "follow the bouncing ball" type ad compaigns?
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 11:07pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5870 of 5888)
I think the Hamm's comercials did, but there are no parks near the brewery really. Wilder isn't far, that Helen Wilda park. Sweede Hollow is closed to my knowlege for Phalen Blvd. But it's an intresing idea.
The walls at phalen what are they made of, Sandstone or limestone?
Also wheelock Pky turns from East to West at Rice street. That's like over a mile away from Phalen.
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 11:22pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5871 of 5888)
www.finddru.com
Como Park (ick) is the home of the new Hamms beer statue though
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 11:23pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5872 of 5888)
www.finddru.com
They are made of Limestone
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 11:25pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5873 of 5888)
www.finddru.com
The statue is a bear. I may have to go look up some of the old Hamms commercials and see
leelabell - (PFID:13d2de) - 11:28pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5875 of 5888)
Jay Benanav convinced folks on the city council to not put the Hamms Bear at Como. Has the city council changed its mind?
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 11:31pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5876 of 5888)
www.finddru.com
The Hamms bear is a 6ft. tall granite statue. The cartoon exploits helped burnish Minnesota's image as an unspoiled natural paradise, it says.
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 11:31pm Jan 27, 2004 PST (# 5877 of 5888)
You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe.
I was just looking at mapquest... THer is a Day road that goes for about 1 block on the north end of Keller Park (just north of Phalen)..
Any time, any day....
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 12:46am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5889 of 5893)
www.finddru.com
No Hamms bear at Como. They must have voted it out. It looked soooo promising I had cut the article and stuck it in my HUGE homemade clue book. Now I will have to take it out...........poor bear
Artemis The Huntress - (PFID:13d315) - 12:55am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5893 of 5893)
Still searching... Come one, come all, ever following the bouncing ball Todd (our bouncer) thinks this clue refers to the State fair. The rides, the new race track.Didn't they use a bouncing ball and the phrase "come one come all" in their advertisements?
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 08:14am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5925 of 6349)
My first impression on the bouncing ball was like your singing along with the words on the bottom of the screen. Not sure what that could refer to? A song? Keroke (sp?)? I heard somewhere else the old Hamm's comercials had a bouncing ball (I actualy remember seeing old comercials like that too). That's the interesting theroies on that I've heard
MinnesotaVixen - (PFID:4d9c820b) - 08:16am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5926 of 6349)
Bouncing Golf Ball?
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 08:34am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5928 of 6349)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
Any thoughts on cherokee? Sioux Bee Honey: Cherokee?
BlockHead - (PFID:4d9c7ea3) - 08:39am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5931 of 6349)
Those Medalling Kids... Hey gramma, who had a bouncy ball TV show?
Before remotes,had to get off the couch, to click Mitch Millers bouncy ball sing along stuff off.
the oysterking - (PFID:4d9c836e) - 08:59am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5933 of 6349)
think of all the red and nater stuff i could buy
 b a wild guess
well lets guess midway stadium again someone guesses that every year
THX 1138 - (PFID:13d2c9) - 09:01am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5934 of 6349)
If you mentioned my name to almost anyone from my school, all you'd get is a "huh?" or a dumb look in response
Well, Midway stadium could be considered a "Park".
GreenTeam - (PFID:2fce43ba) - 09:07am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5936 of 6349) Something greenCould the clue about looking for something green refer to Forest Street at Phalen?
MyTurn14 - (PFID:2fce445a) - 09:09am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5937 of 6349)
My turn to find the thing
heres a little stretch.
For those thinking outside saint paul, east side west side take your honey for a ride. saint paul is basically split in two, the east side and the west side,and it might be saying "saint paul, take your car(honey) for a ride", meaning outside of saint paul.
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 09:32am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5939 of 6349)
Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on!
An Idea I had was the"west side" of st Paul is really on the East side but is called that cuz its on the west side of the Mississippi. So If you can build on this thought let me kno0w
me2 - (PFID:13d2d2) - 09:33am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5941 of 6349)
"The blue ones take me to first, the yellow to second, the brown ones to third, and the green?...they get me a hooooooooooooome run!"
so with that east side west side thought it places you at Cherokee?
231gnx - (PFID:4d9c77aa) - 09:35am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5942 of 6349)
Minneapolis is great...........for me to poop on!
Maybee or Baker, Belvedere,or El Rio Vista
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 10:04am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5945 of 6349)
I'm thinking clues #3-#4 are telling us it's basicly not in st paul
it's neither hear= eastside
nor there= west side any thoughts
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 10:10am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5947 of 6349)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet.
The Maplewood side of Battle Creek is on the West side of Maplewood, but it's the East side of the park.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 10:20am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5953 of 6349)
Come ONE, Come ALL, EVER FOLLOWING THE BOUNCING BALL.
One-All is a tennis score...
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 10:25am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5957 of 6349)
This year we're gonna find it!
Just heard on WCCO radio that the medallion is not hidden on the State Fair grounds and they would like people to stay off of the grounds.
THX 1138 - (PFID:13d2c9) - 10:43am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5964 of 6349)
If you mentioned my name to almost anyone from my school, all you'd get is a "huh?" or a dumb look in response
tennis scores are 15 love etc
I was talking to a buddy at work that's a big tennis freak, and he said they would only say One-all if there was a tie one game to one game, but not in scoring points in the actual game.
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 10:43am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5966 of 6349)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. One-All is a tennis score... I don't think it is. It could be 15 all, or 30 all, or 30 love, but you never score just one. I think "Come one, come all" is something a barker might say, and barker may refer to dogs. I'm not convinced of it, but I don't have a better idea. Also, the clue reads like it's talking about a spectator sport if it really is referring to a sport. You wouldn't have peope gathering around to watch a tennis game in a park. So I'm inclined to say the bouncing ball isn't a sports reference. My best guess is that dogs are always chasing bouncing balls.
The_Rock401 - (PFID:4d9c81a3) - 10:43am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5967 of 6349)
Auto racing is still on the slate of Winter Carnival events.
Take your honey for a ride could be a nod to the sleigh and cutter rally (see Jingle Bells) at Phalen. I'm thinking somewhere not far from the clubhouse, over by where that pseudo-island is with all the bridges and picnic tables.
grn_i_grl - (PFID:2fce3e48) - 10:44am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5968 of 6370)
It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others
http://tennis.about.com/cs/beginners/a/beginnerscore.htm
Allison read this link...especially near the bottom of the first page
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 10:49am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5970 of 6370)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. Allison read this link...especially near the bottom of the first page Well, perhaps so. Still, it doesn't sound right that "Come one, come all" would refer to a variant method of tennis scoring.
grn_i_grl - (PFID:2fce3e48) - 10:52am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5971 of 6370)
It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others
oh I dont know if thats a valid idea I was just pointing out that the tennis part is right
maureen hursey - (PFID:2fce4385) - 11:00am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5976 of 6370)
I think clue 4 means east and west side people going out for a drive and it's only a stones through away, Maybe
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 11:04am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5978 of 6370)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
A movie just started on A & E about a monkey named Archie! lol
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 11:05am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5980 of 6370)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
it is the year of the monkey
Fast Eddie - (PFID:4d9c8231) - 11:08am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5983 of 6370) Facts of the CaseBoy this discussion board is hard to read!
First of all the "medallion" is in a PARK, it's not at the fairgrounds or under an overpass or at the ramsey county fairgrounds. IT'S AT A PARK
Second- it's not in an Irish Spring Soap Box, it's just not, get over it. they don't put in the same thing twice. and even if it is who cares, you still have to find that box
third- it's NOT at the fairgrounds
4th- it's not in a green cell phone (how do you get green cell phone from Emerald Isle and Prank or clever device. My god
5th- it's in a PARK in Ramsey County
Now for my opinion- I think it is in park that is in ramsey county but not in saint paul. probably a smaller park with decent but not great parking. the key this year is to figure out the park then finding the puck should be easier. this damn thing would have been found by now if people would just go out to a few parks near there house and see if they can make any of the clues fit. instead we sit in these damn chatrooms. The fact is your not going to find it on the internet, it's going be found by somebody freezing their nuggets out and who can think outside the box...NO not an irish spring soap box just needed to get that off my chest
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 11:17am Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 5988 of 6370)
Are there any parks directly between E 7th St. and W. 7th St?
GreenTeam - (PFID:2fce43ba) - 12:11pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6020 of 6370) How about Como?It would seem like a prank to have it at Como again. East and West picnic areas. A stone bridge. A trolley and a carousel to ride. What say ye?
brassmonkey - (PFID:4d9c8251) - 12:16pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6023 of 6370)
Avid hunter of 20 years
Ever bouncing ball!! How about the old game PING PONG on video screens. It was a ball that went back and forth across the screen. Black and white of course. Usually found at arcades in the 70's Hence arcade street. Is this a stretch???
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 12:22pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6029 of 6399)
Well, nothing really "gives it away"....
(Im usually way off, I look into it more than I should, I think)
Reference to prattle and bark~ The Humane Society...
Reference to green as the Emerald Isle~ Golf Course?
"All is fair"~ Carousel and rides
Bouncing ball~ Golf course, again
Stony and Sandy~ Areas near the lake itself
Take your honey for a ride~ (this one is a stretch) The water doohickies that people ride on the lake
East Side and West side, as mentioned before, the picnic areas.
But hell, I dont know. I also thought at one time that Emerald Isle was a reference to a beach in North Carolina. (lol)
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 12:22pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6030 of 6399)
This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne.
East and west could just be telling us that it is somewhere with a path that goes all the way around the park?? I don't know, that's kind of a stretch.
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 12:33pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6041 of 6399)
East and West could also mean sides of Lexington.
Ok I have to stop thinking for a little while. My head hurts.
Happy hunting kids. See you later.
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 12:48pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6048 of 6399)
I saw someone note too bad there isn't an east and west shore drive at Phalen. If you know your history you wouldn't think that.....
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 12:52pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6052 of 6399)
I think I've got it McCarron ParkHey all,
Well, I didn't have time to run over and check this out but I will later tonight......If you look at the map of Ramsey County http://www.co.ramsey.mn.us/parks/maps/index.asp
you will see that Lake McCarron is right in the center between the east and west borders of Ramsey County. McCarron is an Irish name, the park is located partly in roseville and partly in Maplewood, there is a beach and play area, Wheelock Pkwy is to the south a couple of blocks and the park is on Center Street on the north side. I havent been there for awhile so I don't remember all the details but it would be worth a trip over to scout it out...........What do ya'll think? Peace.
brassmonkey - (PFID:4d9c8251) - 01:00pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6062 of 6399)
Avid hunter of 20 years
So was there at one point in time a EAST and WEST Shore Drive at Phalen?????
brassmonkey - (PFID:4d9c8251) - 01:08pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6071 of 6399)
Avid hunter of 20 years
You know a swift is also commonly known as a hummingbird
SnowJester - (PFID:2fce4437) - 01:14pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6072 of 6399)
ok, well slogging only took me 1 hour so that's good. now i have 10 minutes to chat!
The clue-writer assumes that everyone who participates reads the PP. I'm not saying that we all do, but the information found in there is fair game. They talk about the message boards in articles written about the hunt, both before it starts and after it's over. This year, they discussed the Archie comic in the Winter Carnival special. I don't think it's out of line for them to reference the message boards because even if you don't participate in them, you (should) know about their existence.
Therefore: Clue #3 is about us.
the oysterking - (PFID:4d9c836e) - 01:18pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6076 of 6399)
think of all the red and nater stuff i could buy
a swift and a humming bird are 2 different birds
Diggin'4_it_Again - (PFID:4d9c76e4) - 01:25pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6080 of 6399)
Just keep diggin' just keep diggin' just keep diggin' diggin' diggin' Regarding McCarrons ParkI also was thinking about that, did you know there is a new "JOES" SportsStore just north of MacCarrons on Rice...(clue 1)
Joe
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 01:26pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6081 of 6399)
HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe.........
I think it could be in a tennis ball >> due to the green clue and follow the bouncing ball............perhaps?
pilots13 - (PFID:4d9c8137) - 02:20pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6114 of 6435)
Yes, to brassmonkey and all ye other non-history buffs, acording to my map of St Paul from 1973 there indeed was a West Shore Dr. The old Steel bridge is all that remins of it, outside memories...
I also know one of the reasons they took it out was because of problems with teens racing cars around the lake. The end of West shore Dr. ended that practice, but then gave more seculted park space for the drug dealers of the 80's. Oops
I'm leaning towards Phalen or BC still, though McCaron sounds very intresting....
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 02:50pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6122 of 6435)
Dear Mr./Ms. Lurking Clue Police Writer/Writers:
I do not give bad advice. I give "green" advice. Big difference. I give the best/most I can with what I get from what little you give. Ittiz not bad advice - ittiz "green" advice. I am not the coldest pop in The Cooler, but I do the best I can. Otay? Otay!
That said... I knew in PE I kept score with "One-All" and I thought it was tennis. And I really thought "tennis." Really. But then sitting at a stop light on the way home, not even thinking about anything, I spit out: "VOLLEYBALL!!!" It was volleybally in PE that we'd say the score "One-All" - not tennis!
Never did like tennis. Didn't like volleyball either, for that matter, but that's not here nor there...
So! There! There's your one-all/bouncing ball in a sandy place.
WHEW! I feel better! Snot gonna arrest me, are you??????
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 03:46pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6130 of 6435)
OK I went to google and typed in emerald isle and lake phalen it will bring up the article if you want to look. VERY INTERSTING
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 03:49pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6132 of 6435)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
I found a 28 page document when I did that. Should I read it?
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 03:50pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6134 of 6435)
I have been trying it is very long but it does say lake phalen and something about it being named emerald isle I am going to take another look at it
The Map Guy - (PFID:13d404) - 03:53pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6136 of 6435)
How 'bout a Map? www.treasurehunt.8m.com
I was thinking about the 3rd clue an hour ago, and if it has anything to do with the Treasure Hunters' Guide, it could only be refering to the last page in the guide.
Its the only place that I give advice about where to hunt....so...maybe its going to be near something that can electrocute you?
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 04:01pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6151 of 6442)
Ya know... if I remember right.. by the volley ball courts there is a power pole that has a light on it for nighttime ball playing... and it's in the sand I believe.
The Map Guy - (PFID:13d404) - 03:55pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6140 of 6442)
How 'bout a Map? www.treasurehunt.8m.com
Actually....I'm brainstorming now....it could be buried, not in the soil, but in the sand?????
That's IT!!!
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 03:59pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6147 of 6442)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
What I'm reading says that historians, many from the Emerald Isle, had a meeting somewhere on the shores of Lake Phalen.
maureen hursey - (PFID:2fce4385) - 05:50pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6195 of 6442)
Clever device, but beware false advice.
Could mean lie detector.
My spelling is not the best.
Scribe - (PFID:13d2ca) - 05:52pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6197 of 6442)
KILL IT! LETS MAKE A HAT OUTTOV IT! LETS COOK IT AND EAT IT!
I think we are on the "clever device" Maureen...could mean all the standard rules we have deduced from the past hunts do not apply this year...
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 07:30pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6287 of 6482)
I think I've got it McCarron Park tourHey, I just got back from my little jaunt to check out McCarron. HMMMMMM.......I don't know, it is pretty small....but this is what I found:
There is an off leash dog area right to the south of McCarron lake called Woodview open area. ther is also a park right to the east called Tamarack park.
On January 31st, there is a winter carnival softball on ice tourney on the lake all day 8-4. There are no tennis courts or ball fields there.
There is a store called Twin city motors across Rice st.from the park.
Both Larpenteur ave and Wheelock Pkwy are called ave W on the west side of Rice St. and Ave E. on the east side of Rice st. I found that a little bit interesting.
You can see a map of the area with the off leash dog park at http://www.co.ramsey.mn.us/parks/maps/images/Woodview.gif
I dont know what to think. Maybe the clue tonight will help narrow it down. I think that Battle Creek is a great fit as well, but as others have said, We need to be careful not to read too deeply into the clues.......every line does not have a meaning. What do you all think?
Artemis The Huntress - (PFID:13d315) - 09:27pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6375 of 6482)
Still searching...
not sure if this has been mentioned or not (not done slogging) but before the next clue comes out I thought I'd mention it--stoney and sandy could refer to kids playground and rocky areas around trees and shrubs etc.
DEER HUNTER - (PFID:4d9c7a8c) - 09:36pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6395 of 6482)
IT'S IN COMO BABBY BACK TO BACK?
jusme - (PFID:2fce4281) - 09:39pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6398 of 6482)
1st thought, Hidden Falls, by Casey's strip club ??? The girls love to dance
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 09:40pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6401 of 6482)
I once caught a fish this Big!
Yep! Go to the place, It's no disgrace
Where the girls shall be happy to dance
Don't look in the rough, but if you want the stuff
You may have to get dirt on your pants.
And a big note from the PP:
In response to phone and e-mail inquiries received by State Fair officials from the public, the Pioneer Press announced Wednesday that the Treasure Hunt medallion is not hidden at the Minnesota State Fairgrounds.
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:41pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6402 of 6482)
Lurk No More!
Kellar GC?
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:46pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6412 of 6482)
This year we're gonna find it!
Elementary school boys don't like to dance.
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 09:48pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6420 of 6482)
I think I've got it
Keller Golf course
I think this clue leads to the park by Keller golf course....the clubhouse is nice and has a lot of wedding receptions and there is a golf course right there. I drove by it when I was looking at McCarron and printed out the map. There is a frisbe Ave on one end and Arcade street runs right in front of the golf course.
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 09:50pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6424 of 6482)
You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe.
Gladys And Sherlock --
There is also a short street (like a block) on the north end called Day Road.
Hmmm..
The_Rock401 - (PFID:4d9c81a3) - 09:50pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6425 of 6482)
Amen to that.
"Don't look in the rough": Golf course park, but not on the course itself.
"Girls shall be happy to dance": Were there any ballrooms or nightclubs around either Phalen or McCarron? Or how about a bandstand or live music stage?
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:51pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6430 of 6482)
I can crack a code from a DVD on Mars that's 10 million miles away, but I can't find a little plastic puck in my neighborhood!
Phalen has an outdoor ampitheater
Sleepless In CG - (PFID:2fce43d4) - 09:51pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6432 of 6482)
Sounds like it will be down low, but what about the dance?
(Guess this got posted real slow!)
medallionis venator - (PFID:2fce35cd) - 09:52pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6435 of 6482)
ohh great....
now we will have people ripping up the grass and digging way down deep :(--we should have a pool entitled "which park will be banned from next years hunt" --my five dollar pick is Cherokee.
FYI- this clue kinda sounds like a reference to a song by Queen doesnt it?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:54pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6437 of 6482)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
Or Abba
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 09:54pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6438 of 6482)
This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne.
Gladys - ANYONE is happy to dance at a wedding reception...why just girls? And why would a wedding reception be a disgrace?
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 09:57pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6440 of 6482)
I think I've got it
There is also a Keller Island picnic area that has a little bridge that crosses the water....I have golfed there a lot and it would be a great place to hide the medalion.
medallionis venator - (PFID:2fce35cd) - 09:58pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6442 of 6482)
and...
I was kinda thinking that "jugghead" could be the top of some kind of container as well :)-cap
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:06pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6457 of 6482)
"Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?"
This may be a far stretch but didn't Casy Jone's TV show have the music where you followed along with the bouncing ball?? I remembered that last night and I even went and looked up the Casey Jones History on the wesite and all. Wow what a trip down memory lane. Any way Joe Souecery(sp?) made mention that this sure wasn't my "father's kind of treasure hunt. Then they started referencing things to the past. Jughead and Archie, possibly the East Side West Side song and I thought of Casey Jones with the follow the bouncing ball? Any thoughts
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:08pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6459 of 6482)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
Casey did Happy Happy Birthday and Dancing in My Winter Underwear. Any other? Oh yeah, I Love Onions. lol
medallionis venator - (PFID:2fce35cd) - 10:08pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6461 of 6482)
one thing bothers me here about this clue....the rules say search and dont destroy but yet this clue says 'dirt on your pants" this tells me there is some type of word games going on in these clues
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:09pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6462 of 6482)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
casey Jones
he just died too
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 10:09pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6463 of 6482)
I can crack a code from a DVD on Mars that's 10 million miles away, but I can't find a little plastic puck in my neighborhood!
You don't have to destroy to get dirt on your pants, shoot, just take a walk through the woods and that'll happen
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 10:09pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6464 of 6482)
This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne.
MV - or you have to crawl to get to the location...
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:10pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6466 of 6482)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
'dirt on your pants"
maybe 'cause it was hidden/written before the snow?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:11pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6468 of 6482)
"Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?"
but didn't they have the bouncing ball so the little kids could follow along with the words or was that Clancy and Willie Ketchem and Carmen the nurse?
Onstar - (PFID:4d9c82c7) - 10:12pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6470 of 6482)
dirt on pants, baseball fields-sliding... it doesn't mean dig the dirt and destroy
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 10:12pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6471 of 6482)
I can crack a code from a DVD on Mars that's 10 million miles away, but I can't find a little plastic puck in my neighborhood!
so what could they mean by disgrace if it's not a strip club reference?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:13pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6473 of 6482)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
Yes, I think they did. Been a long time. My kids used to watch it.
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 10:17pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6482 of 6482)
I think I've got it
Go to the Place it is no disgrace could just mean that it has a good reputation......like, Keller golf course is a place that people like to golf and the wedding receptions are a little pricier than some other places. I think the girls shall be happy to dance might just mean that a girl's wedding day is suppose to be the happiest day of her life.....Wherever it is, I think that part might be talking about a golf course clubhouse.
jusme - (PFID:2fce4281) - 10:18pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6484 of 6501)
one part of yesterdays clue made me think of that also, swift.....the river is Swift
circusgirl - (PFID:2fce4237) - 10:18pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6485 of 6501)
um...I don't think Hidden Falls is that close to Caseys. Crosby Farm is though
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:19pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6486 of 6501)
You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe.
Thoght on Hidden falls... There is West 7th and East RIver road.. would make a nice drive.
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 10:22pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6488 of 6501)
This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne.
Well I definitely think it's at a park with a golf course and they just threw in "don't look in the rough" to make sure people don't go on the course. why else would they tell you not to look somewhere? Everywhere else in the park is fair game...
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:23pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6489 of 6501)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
"don't look in the rough"
can relate to brushy areas of the park
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:28pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6494 of 6501)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
come one come all
could that reference shepard road
come sheepy sheepy?
highway joe
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 10:30pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6496 of 6501)
HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe.........
Does anyone else think there could be an issue with "Where the girls shall be happy to dance," and its political correctness?
for some reason I don't think it can be generalized...
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:31pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6497 of 6501)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
Me either noname. It's an important clue.
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 10:33pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6498 of 6501)
SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE
Lamplighter girls dance and get naked
vex - (PFID:4d9c85a8) - 10:33pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6499 of 6501)
I hate to say it but como has a pavilion where they have dancing. You can also see the green roof of the clubhouse from that area
marley king - (PFID:13d2d5) - 10:34pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6500 of 6501)
www.kingscommons.8m.com pictures of the parks-------- www.thesmokinhills.com
Como : > (
JOe
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:38pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6504 of 6513)
"Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?"
true about the political correctness of the dance clue--I don't think the PP would want to endorse that-- another thing about the Casey Jones thing-- this could be neither here nor there-ha-but both he and Roundhouse Rodney graduated from MaCalester college and Casey's first sidekick was Joe the Cook
vex - (PFID:4d9c85a8) - 10:40pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6507 of 6513)
Isn't Casey's closed now?
medallionis venator - (PFID:2fce35cd) - 10:41pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6508 of 6513)
seriously now...
after some thought behind this clue i came up with COMO!!!
my reasoning is... clue 4 sounded like some lyrics from a Queen song and the mentioning of the word 'disgrace' in this clue suggests to me its a church for some reason(Churchill and Queen?) hmmmm gives the street that divides the East and West part of Como near the Pavalion.
just a thought here.... hiya marly!!
StepDogg - (PFID:2fce4590) - 10:41pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6510 of 6513)
This just in...StepDogg finds the medallion. Back to you, Dianne.
Maybe it refers to Deja Vu strip club in minneapolis...we'd be having Deja Vu if it was at Como again, only this time they are saying it's not in the woods!!
hahaha, good night all.
toomuch - (PFID:4d9c8569) - 10:42pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6512 of 6513)
Casey's connection deserves some thought though maybe a reach however one can not discredit it as bad taste,,,,,,,, last years clue involved murder and decit with Carpentuer
BADDS - (PFID:4d9c7dfa) - 10:43pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6513 of 6513)
Yes, it is closed
BADDS - (PFID:4d9c7dfa) - 10:52pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6526 of 6560)
I hate COMO!! but the girls dance thing could also mean by a dance studio or you can see that in site..
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 11:10pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6539 of 6560)
"Is that an icicle hanging from your nose?"
McGlynn's doughnut bags are emerald green and white-what the med. is hidden in
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 11:14pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6540 of 6560)
SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE
lamplighter by mcarrons
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 11:16pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6542 of 6560)
I think I've got it
The Queen song We are the Champions is often sung at Baseball games, it was played at the "91" world series when the Twins won.
medallionis venator - (PFID:2fce35cd) - 11:19pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6544 of 6560)
The doughnut theory....
lets see if I were a little squirrel i probaly would scamper to my nest with that bag. enough said :)
maureen hursey - (PFID:2fce4385) - 11:21pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6546 of 6560)
GS,
O.K.
Tony S. Park
wrightwinger - (PFID:20a32cc6) - 11:34pm Jan 28, 2004 PST (# 6550 of 6560)
WORST CLUES SINCE LAST YEAR EVER!
ahhhhhhhhhh!!! its the frog pond!!!!
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:21pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7068 of 7077)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
Looks like we'd better find a deer stand somewhere!
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:23pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7072 of 7077)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
Sounds like Robin Hood and his band of merry men to me
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:25pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7074 of 7077)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
Are they talking about Boreas's defeat? Where do they hold that?
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:26pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7076 of 7077)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street think the new clue says something about boreas
SNAKE88 - (PFID:4d9c6c9e) - 09:27pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7078 of 7095)
THE NEW MEDALLIONATOR
dont aim low=high land?
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:27pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7082 of 7095)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street think its somewhere high
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:28pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7083 of 7095)
"This noodlin's driving me bananas!"
I don't think you usually stand up in a deer stand though do you? Aren't hunters mostly sitting and waiting patiently?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:28pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7083 of 7095)
"This noodlin's driving me bananas!"
I don't think you usually stand up in a deer stand though do you? Aren't hunters mostly sitting and waiting patiently?
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:28pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7084 of 7095)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street
the new clue is talking about an ariel view?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:29pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7085 of 7095)
"This noodlin's driving me bananas!"
There is that area that is used for archery at Phalen
maureen hursey - (PFID:2fce4385) - 09:31pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7094 of 7095)
O.K.
The first battle DANCE!
That turned into WHAT!
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 09:31pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7095 of 7095)
I once caught a fish this Big!
Boreas is dethroned in Kellogg Park
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:32pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7096 of 7103)
"This noodlin's driving me bananas!"
And there is a big fire ring on the walk over there-if you are coming from the beach area it would be a long walk over there-steady on your feet
brassmonkey - (PFID:4d9c8251) - 09:33pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7097 of 7103)
Avid hunter of 20 years
I think he is talking about robin hood and the sherwood forest. There is a sherwood street that runs into Phalen
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 09:37pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7104 of 7106)
HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe.........
BM--- I was thinking the same thing..... somehow, i don't even remember now, I picked up another sherwood reference in an earlier clue...
I'm not quite ruling out HF yet. Maybe you're aiming for Fort Snelling across the river and preparing for the coming defeat.
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 09:37pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7105 of 7106)
Isn't the place where the ice palace was at Phalen up by that old waterfall??
dm144 - (PFID:2fce43cf) - 09:43pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7117 of 7122)
At least I found Nemo!
coming defeat = failing = Phalen
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:46pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7121 of 7122)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
I know it ruins the rhyme, but could bow mean a bow that you play a violin or cello with? Ordway? Rice Park?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:48pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7123 of 7123)
"This noodlin's driving me bananas!"
steady on your feet=sure footed=sher(wood)
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 09:48pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7124 of 7135)
I don't think so OT... because it was worded different... when the said don't aim low.. it's gotta be a bow and arrow.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:49pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7125 of 7135)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
I'm just isolating the word. Not worrying about the rhyme or whatever right now. Just a thought.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:49pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7126 of 7135)
"This noodlin's driving me bananas!"
aim for the center? middle between Keller and Phalen?
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 09:50pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7128 of 7135)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 aim for the center? middle between Keller and Phalen?would be neither there nor here
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 09:51pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7129 of 7135)
Representing the MidWest What about Cherokee park?The HIGHbride is right next to it off of smith ave
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:51pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7130 of 7135)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street
cherokee? its on a cliff (high)
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:52pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7135 of 7210)
Brain after too much noodlin'
what is the story of the battle at Battle Creek? Anyone?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:54pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7136 of 7210)
Ice Palace 1938: Can you find Mary and Pauline?
Someone posted earlier that the Ojibwe and Dakota battled there. 1842 I think they said.
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 09:54pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7137 of 7210)
You Know It's Cold Out When It's Warmer In Your Deep Freezer!
what about take your bow, as in bowing at the end of a performance?
maureen hursey - (PFID:2fce4385) - 09:54pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7138 of 7210)
Bow is also boyfriend, just like your honey!
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:55pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7139 of 7210)
Brain after too much noodlin'
could be a play on words Bow as in take a bow or bow as in bow and arrow--fiery band could be a band with afiery fiddle player like Charlie Daniel's band--didn't they defeat the devil in that song?
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 09:56pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7140 of 7210)
In order to understand the celebrations, you first have to understand the community.
The boyfriend type of bow would be beau.
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 09:56pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7141 of 7210)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
the Lakota Band of Sioux resided where Battle Creek Park is until they were forced to move from the East side of the Mississippi to the West side of the river because of flooding. East Side West Side.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:01pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7159 of 7210)
Brain after too much noodlin'
yeah Mikey and Allison referenced the "honey wagon" take your honey for a ride, the honey wagon used to go around and collect raw sewage and take it to Pigs Eye near Battle Creek
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:08pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7166 of 7210)
Brain after too much noodlin'
aim could= point Point Douglas road
Firey could =Burns Ave???
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:12pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7174 of 7210)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
Keller Archery Range
The Keller archery range is located in the Golfview picnic area section of Keller Regional Park in Maplewood. Enter the Golfview site from northbound Highway 61, just north of Roselawn Avenue. The site is entirely fenced and contains 12 archery lanes with butts. Lengths of lanes vary from 10-40 yards.
did not show pigs eye but it is real close by
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:16pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7176 of 7210)
Brain after too much noodlin'
Allison's thoughts on that stoney and sandy plce pertaining to Battle Creek is that the Honey Wagon hauled the raw sewage to Pigs Eye which was a stoney and sandy place
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:16pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7177 of 7210)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
I read on one of the regional parks pages that bc/mounds/pigs eye are all part of bc..just can't find the link now
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 10:20pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7186 of 7210)
Representing the MidWest WowHow about Swede Hollow people? I just realised the clues fit there too
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 10:21pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7187 of 7210)
"It's a small world after all." mrmnmikeyyes - i have the book "Parks & Public Places in Ramsey County" and that shows Battle Creek Regional Park containing the Battle Creek Unit (Ramsey County), Indian Mounds Unit (St. Paul) and Pig's Eye Lake Unit (Ramsey County).
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 10:21pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7188 of 7210)
SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE
prepare for the coming defeat... sounds like a battle to me
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 10:21pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7188 of 7210)
SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE
prepare for the coming defeat... sounds like a battle to me
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 10:22pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7192 of 7210)
Representing the MidWest
...
PHALEN creek runs right through there.....great view of REGIONS hospital...."Area park" Regional park. Hospital for help help too
Tootin4U - (PFID:4d9c812a) - 10:24pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7196 of 7231)
by the way the past clues have gone i am really starting to like mounds park
help me any time any day - the hospital nearby
bouncing ball - tennis courts
stony sandy - the bluffs
no disgrace - indian burial mounds
bow (as in arrow) - weapon those people used
fiery - burns (that street goes through mounds as well as BC)
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 10:30pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7206 of 7231)
'Take a stand with fiery band and prepare for the coming defeat'
Could mean its not at Como. (The large fire ring in the park)
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 10:34pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7209 of 7231)
I think I've got it Central ParkOK, this is probably a long shot but here goes.....anyone thought about Central Park in Roseville? The skating oval is right across the street where there are many figure skating clubs and the main police department for Roseville. There is baseball, sand volleyball, tennis, hockey and an amphitheater.......there are also bike paths all the way around the park and there is a section for rollerblading......(steady on your feet).......take your bow, don't aim low = Central. Take a stand with your fiery band (bandstand)........Oh boy...one more place to think about....I think maybe it is hidden in the sand of the volleyball courts which would make one's pants dirty.??????
GuyUpNorth - (PFID:2fce450d) - 10:38pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7215 of 7231)
Is there a wall-mart near central park?
"come one come all ever following the bouncing ball"
They are talking about that little yellow happy thing!
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 10:38pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7216 of 7231)
Central Park? Didnt the Vulcans just play hockey there the other night?
<Fiery band>
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 10:38pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7217 of 7231) Lurk No More!
Glayds...I really like your thinking, excellent noodling...I too am convinced it is a park outside St Paul...Keller seems like as a good a fit as any...I like your argument for Central Park...."follow the bouncing ball"=lottery...Roseville is the home of the MN lottery....
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 10:39pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7220 of 7231)
Representing the MidWest Okbow= beaumont st
sand = beech st
west east = west and east 7 st
This is for Swede Hollow
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 10:42pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7224 of 7231)
I think I've got it
Look at http://www.ci.roseville.mn.us/info/maps/parks/parks_pathways_facilities.pdfIt shows the whole park area. It is in pdf format and you can enlarge it
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 10:46pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7231 of 7231)
Representing the MidWest How bout this?Help me!you say. "Any time. Any day.
It's neither here nor there."
A quite clever device, but beware false advice.
Prank? Perhaps. All is fair.
A Bluff?
Dayton's Bluff Park?
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 10:49pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7235 of 7272)
Lurk No More!
Central Park is divided into "Central Park West" and "Central Park East"=east side, west side....I becoming a believer!
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 10:51pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7239 of 7272)
SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE
off fairview and county rd B2
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:51pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7240 of 7272)
Brain after too much noodlin'
honey=County B2(Bee)
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:54pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7246 of 7272)
Brain after too much noodlin'
Roseville High School is nearby books=doughnut in the Archie comic being found in library
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 10:55pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7247 of 7272)
Maybe the Fiery Band means the firestation one block away from the park
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 11:20pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7258 of 7272)
www.finddru.com
Central Park also has a band shell = dancing????
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 11:56pm Jan 29, 2004 PST (# 7261 of 7272)
Wow, everyone must be asleep! Too much cold I guess. I have a park I looked at today: Island Lake Park in shoreview. It fits all the clues and is located off of VICTORIA ST.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 12:30am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7265 of 7272)
Really? bike path all around - golf course -- volleyball and baseball -- big celebration every summer with a fair -- waterskiing championships in the summer -- YMCA on the West side of the golf course where girls have dance classes -- Lake Johanna fire station right next to the park -- Island Lake school right on the south side where there is a library -- rollerblading steady on the feet? --lots of different bands play in the park in the summer???????????????? MEHHHHH
SNAKE88 - (PFID:4d9c6c9e) - 12:32am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7266 of 7272)
THE NEW MEDALLIONATOR
im up for any park outside of st. paul...anyone check out evergreen???
SNAKE88 - (PFID:4d9c6c9e) - 12:37am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7269 of 7272)
THE NEW MEDALLIONATOR
clue 1: "area" park=roseville area
clue 2: in something green or "evergreen" as in evergreen park
clue 3: help me you say anytime anyday=church directly accross the st.
Clever advice, etc= Clearly broken air raid siren in the park
clue 4: take your honey for a ride=county rd "B" (as in honey b)-bouncing ball=b.ball, tennis, etc.
clue 5: golf course near by. roseville danceline (state champs 4 of last 5 yrs)
SNAKE88 - (PFID:4d9c6c9e) - 12:39am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7271 of 7272)
THE NEW MEDALLIONATOR
located on the corner of county rd B and Fiarview
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 07:28am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7290 of 7962)
Has non one noticed yet that they are strating to spell out battle in this last clue if # 7 comes out with Capital E or L in the first lines we have a for sure park any thoughts
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 08:45am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7296 of 7962)
Still going with dualities...
Bow: Archery/Indians - BC
Don't go too low - either referring to Lower Afton, or too high up the ski hill (where the archery thighys are placed).
Be steady on your feet - either the ski area 'below' Lower Afton; or the ski hill over by the volleyball, the Swift bicycles, etc.
What's a "fiery band on a stand"? What's a fire ring on a stand? Well, if you go too close to those firey bands on stands, your goose is cooked because you will be defeated (meaning you'll be going in the wrong direction and/or too far from The Med.)
My two cents, and ittiz free! :D
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 09:18am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7299 of 7962)
I did a typo...
Be steady on your feet - either the ski area 'below' Lower Afton; or the ski hill over by the volleyball, the Swift bicycles, etc. should read:
Be steady on your feet - either the ski area 'below' UPPER Afton; or the ski hill over by the volleyball, the Swift bicycles, etc.
Sorry. Getting a titch xicted and getting LOTS O'SPARKLIES!!!!
Tootin4U - (PFID:4d9c812a) - 11:29am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7365 of 7962)
heres an idea, fiery band and bow are the charlie daneils band in the devil went down to georgia, does anyone have a hudson to see if there are any streets having to do with georgia, cotton, charlie daniels?
Stew - (PFID:4d9c8210) - 11:55am Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7396 of 7964)
Speaking of ride... anyone know the route that the bicycle club is taking on the 14th? I know that is starts from the Perkins just off I-35W on County Road D, but where does it go from there? ... and yes I believe that this ride is free :)
dignstuff - (PFID:4d9c85f1) - 12:11pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7407 of 7964)
No beer and No Medallion make Homer something, something ...
The Twin Cities Bicycling Club has a ride on 2/14 called the "Take Your Honey for a Ride", and it starts near Tony Schmidt park, however nobody has been able to confirm if it actually starts there or like at some Perkins near there.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 12:13pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7409 of 7964)
In order to understand the celebrations, you first have to understand the community.
14 SAT TAKE YOUR HONEY FOR A BIKE RIDE. B 15-30 miles. Depart at 11 AM from the Perkins just off I-35W on County Road D in New Brighton. What better way to spend Valentine’s Day than riding your bike with that special someone in your life? Or not! Either way dress warm and come out to play. Hot beverages and snacks at Perkins after the ride. (Map to start: http://zzzurn.com/maps/perkinsnb.html)Kate Kovar, 763-234-5180 daytime.
http://www.mtn.org/tcbc/
wrightwinger - (PFID:20a32cc6) - 12:36pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7423 of 7964)
Everybody to the limit!!!
but has anyone come up with any dancing girls reference for phalen? the only working answer i've come up with is dejavu, refering to como. has to be something with better taste though I think...
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 12:38pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7424 of 7964)
In order to understand the celebrations, you first have to understand the community.
They offer belly dancing classes at North Dale Rec.
Otherwise other things I've seen is dance line, Radio City Music Hall, ballet...but nothing seems exactly right.
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 01:25pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7468 of 8380)
Makes sense. It must be somewhat hidden back there.
I dont think Ive ever been to Island Lake Park... Ill have to check that one out.
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 01:27pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7469 of 8380)
I think I've got it
That is the lake that has all the waterskiing competitions in the summer and the park where there is a slice of shoreview which is a three day long carnival with lots of music and rides........It also has a bands in the park program in the summer
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 01:28pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7470 of 8380)
I think I've got it
Lots of parking, ball fields, golf course, volleyball courts etcc.......A fire station is on one end and Deluxe checking is right across the street
Gladys And Sherlock - (PFID:4d9c84af) - 01:30pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7471 of 8380)
I think I've got it
Island Lake elementary school is on the south end of the park right next to Lake Johanna fire station
MyTurn14 - (PFID:2fce445a) - 02:26pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7491 of 8380)
My turn to find the thing
just found this as i was browsing in the dictionary. Thought it might be something
Swift--NOUN: 1a. A cylinder on a carding machine. b. A reel used to hold yarn as it is being wound off.
MyTurn14 - (PFID:2fce445a) - 02:38pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7499 of 8380) My turn to find the thing
any thoughts on band meaning rubber band or band also means a strip or something that ties together, or something like a band of marriage, something like that
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 05:07pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7539 of 8380)
Did anyone think the first line from clue 4 could mean the park is on the East side of St. Paul and it's hidden on the west side of that Park?
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 09:46pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7745 of 8380)
You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe.
Wintry crop?
The ice they got from lake Phalen?
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 09:46pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7747 of 8380)
Keep in Mind there's a Phalen Elementry School.
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:47pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7748 of 8380)
Lurk No More!
wet drop = "water fall"
This is a good clue for hidden falls
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:47pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7749 of 8380)
Brain after too much noodlin'
wet drop Phalen where they cut out the ice block=wet drop
fish murial on the wall
Juster - (PFID:2fce43bc) - 09:47pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7750 of 8380)
There was a record size catch carp in Phalen a few years back. It made all the headlines.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:49pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7757 of 8380)
Brain after too much noodlin'
wet drop= holes left where they harvested they Wintery crop of ice blocks-yeah!! I,m liken' it!:)
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 09:49pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7759 of 8380)
or the water park at Battle Creek park
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:49pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7760 of 8380)
This year we're gonna find it!
Creek as in Battle?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:50pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7762 of 8380)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
Or Phalen Creek?
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:52pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7770 of 8380)
Lurk No More!
wintry crop = the medallion, not necessarily the ice removed from Phalen
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 09:53pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7773 of 8380)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
fish hatchery at phalen and open water in the creek/catch and release
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 09:53pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7775 of 8380)
There are Monster fish in the Mississippi River not far from Battle Creek.
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 09:54pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7777 of 8380)
You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe.
i'm still not convinced of anything.
I still see how this fits with SH (avoid a wet drop.. the steep drop down to the lower part of the park)...
I drove by Central park in Rosedale earlier.. I still don't know.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:54pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7779 of 8380)
Brain after too much noodlin'
ok names of schools and team names in the area for battle?
T Hunter - (PFID:4d9c82b1) - 09:54pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7780 of 8380)
Where is the Fish Hatchery at Phalen is that in Round lake?
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 09:54pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7782 of 8380)
Lurk No More!
monster fish are a schoolin' could refer to a school nearby with a mascot like "sharks" or "stingrays" or something else...
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 09:56pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7784 of 8380)
I thought the DNR fish place was by Pigs eye lake.
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 09:56pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7787 of 8380)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
Where is the Fish Hatchery at Phalen is that in Round lake
an old one is there
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 09:57pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7789 of 8380)
Now how can feiry ring fit other then the fire pit at Phalen?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:57pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7790 of 8380)
Brain after too much noodlin'
SnowMommy the DNR has a fish hatchery just west of battle off 61 on the way to Pigs Eye
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:57pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7793 of 8380)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street
fiery ring is most likely the firepits
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 09:58pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7795 of 8380)
www.finddru.com
I read that as a Band Stand.................Do they have a place where outdoor bands play???????????
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 09:59pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7796 of 8380)
You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe.
fiery band.
The park where they do the de-throne thing... brain not work now.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:59pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7797 of 8380)
Brain after too much noodlin'
Terry you think the first line is steering us away from battle, "Still up a creek?" as in wrong choice or troubled location?
jb2773 - (PFID:4d9c85a5) - 09:58pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7794 of 8380)
there is no fish hatchery at phalen
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 10:00pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7800 of 8380)
Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited!
I believe the park is confirmed as Phalen. Still up a creek could be steering folks away from BC...but the wintry crop has to be the ice blocks.
T Hunter - (PFID:4d9c82b1) - 10:01pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7803 of 8380)
splitrock they have an Amphitheater
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:02pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7805 of 8380)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 there is no fish hatchery at phalentheres an old one by round lake and an old one on east shore drive. not used anymore
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 10:10pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7835 of 8380) HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe.........
maybe "monster fish" means the mutated fish of the river
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 10:28pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7876 of 8380)
Lurk No More!
Monster fish could be refering to "pike" island near hidden falls and crosby.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:29pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7878 of 8380)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
I'm still cynical. This might be a prank. They might be teasing us with these clues, just as they said, and then bingo! It's at a different park. Just like last year with HI and Como.
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:29pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7880 of 8380)
You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe.
if you google MONSTER FISH, the first site is about Muskie... I suppose most lakes in MN have them...
Juster - (PFID:2fce43bc) - 10:36pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7891 of 8380)
Holy cow I went to BC middle school 15 years ago and I cant remember their mascot for the life of me.
Violent J - (PFID:13d365) - 10:36pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7892 of 8380)
The Flying Hamster of DOOM Rains Coconuts On Your Pitiful City!
Its a panther
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:37pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7893 of 8380)
the little creek running between Lake Phalen and Keller is called Keller CREEK, I just found it on this handy dandy map my husband has
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:40pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7898 of 8380)
You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe.
jammin...
Look at the north end of Keller Park, there is a small North South Street.. Day Rd.
Any time.. any day
Juster - (PFID:2fce43bc) - 10:47pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7908 of 8380)
I'd say thats pretty big, but not as big as Como. Besides, we should count the acres in addition to Keller for a real total...Keller is "not far from the wintry crop".
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 11:56pm Jan 30, 2004 PST (# 7938 of 8380)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
the old phalen creek is now underground and runs through swede hollow. Keller creek goes around the island to round lake then goes on to keller into spoon lake and on to gervais
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 07:29am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 7975 of 8380)
battle creek park pool is shape of big fish too
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 08:44am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8002 of 8380)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
Wintery crop. Christmas trees? Not that it fits, but just a thought.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 09:46am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8026 of 8380)
Someone was talking about the fish hatchery on Warner rd earlier. Many of you might know this but, there is an archery range on the north side of the road across from the fish hatchery and the area around it is sometimes called pigs eye park but it is not a park, it is an old crusty contaminated land fill. It actually looks nice and has a pond and Battle Creek runs through it but the levels of mercury, lead and PCP are really high. There was an article on it a while back and they said it should be locked up and the pond should be drained to avoid contaminating water fowl. I have to run some errands and then I will be out and about looking. UGH>>>>>
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:15am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8031 of 8380)
The archery range is across the road from the fish hatchery
last hope - (PFID:2fce4529) - 11:15am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8059 of 8380)
Last years clues gave hints if objects that were aways from the Park (ex French School, red white and blue)
If the fish hatchery off of Warner Road is near by. That closes it to Mounds and Battle Creek
I can't think of anything near Phalen...
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 11:24am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8067 of 8380)
http://www.winter-carnival.com/education/HowtheSPWCbegan.PDF
This mentions a game
<pushball> that was played at the first Winter Carnival. (bouncing balls)
And also mentions that it was where the capitol is now, then called Central Park.
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 11:31am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8074 of 8380)
Central Park is pretty big too. I feel your pain.
Im only about 4 blocks away, but I wouldnt even know where to begin.
last hope, I knew it wouldnt be on the capitol grounds, but thought maybe the clue refered to Central Park in Roseville. I wasnt sure how many people knew that that had been a park. (I didnt) Could be the history clue.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 11:37am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8077 of 8380)
Snow Princess,
  The part I thought fit best was off of Dale (Riverdale in Archie) and between co B2 (Honey) and C where the ball fields and tennis courts and American Legion are. there are rollerblading paths (steady of your feet) there and the park is split into East/West sections...I thought it really fit but after last nights clue I think BC is a better fit.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 11:44am Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8083 of 8380)
I just remembered, there is Battle Creek Community Center on the corner of Winthrop and Upper Afton Road..my niece took dance lessons there....HMMMMMMMM just a few blocks over from the water park.......
wrightwinger - (PFID:20a32cc6) - 01:13pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8102 of 8380)
Everybody to the limit!!!
phalen is known for massive scary fish that eat ducks,, ,,as mystical hinted to, (but left out the ducks being eating).. the wintery crop,, the ice for the palace... wait a tic,,, i bet it was hidden in the ice,,and brought into the palace, lol. jk
SnowPrincess - (PFID:4d9c84e9) - 01:14pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8103 of 8380)
On the "creek" itself, maybe. The wet drop could mean the small falls in the creek. The wintry crop could mean the fish itself, meaning you would need to possibly cross the creek to find it.
I need to stop thinking. Someone make me go cook dinner.
Teddykgb3 - (PFID:2fce4423) - 06:38pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8171 of 8380)
<----John Malkovich Back from Vegas and ready to hunt!
you know, while I'm on here I amy as well try to get some info, that is afterall what we are here for, just curious if anyone knows where the quote is from?
"Help me!you say. "Any time. Any day.
It's neither here nor there."
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 06:50pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8180 of 8379)
"Neither here nor there" is from Shakespeare's Othello
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 08:05pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8211 of 8379)
<------- I am the standard by which all others are judged. Mrs. P. Creepy Guy
HI to this board- I was kinda thinking that one explanation for the Emerald Isle clue might be that the medallion is hidden in a clump of frozen grass.
I jettisoned the inside the tennis ball idea, cause no one seemed to like that one.
GreenTeam - (PFID:2fce43ba) - 09:44pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8281 of 8380)
What's with the windmills? And who is old lakely?
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 09:44pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8282 of 8380)
www.finddru.com
If you do your history....it's about water that had to be pumped into a lake at one time
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 09:45pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8284 of 8380)
You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe.
who knows anything about Don quixote? My hubby says he tilted at windmills...
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 09:55pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8291 of 8380)
You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe.
don quixote attacked windmills.. they called it Tilt at windmill...
odd.
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 10:04pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8294 of 8380)
www.finddru.com
heres a link about windmills and Don Q
http://servercc.oakton.edu/~wittman/mills/history.htm
Stew - (PFID:4d9c8210) - 10:05pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8295 of 8380)
Idiom:
tilt at windmills
To confront and engage in conflict with an imagined opponent or threat.
= BATTLE?
Nancy - (PFID:13d713) - 10:15pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8297 of 8380)
There is a book called "To Tilt at Windmills"
http://msupress.msu.edu/bookTemplate.php?bookID=410
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 10:17pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8298 of 8380)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street
lookin more like Cherokee Park to me...
This latest clue makes a stronger case for Cherokee
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:29pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8304 of 8380)
You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe. STANDSTILLSynonyms: arrest, box, cessation, check, checkmate, corner, dead end, dead stop, deadlock, delay, gridlock, halt, hole, impasse, inaction, Mexican standoff, pause, stalemate, standoff, wait
I like DEAD END
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:30pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8306 of 8380)
Brain after too much noodlin'
Windmill Road used to run from Como to Phalen Ave. in 1910
Wabbit - (PFID:13d98a) - 10:32pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8308 of 8380)
Whos the plump pitcher?
shovelhead - (PFID:2fce3ffd) - 10:36pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8313 of 8380)
SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE
Babe ruth
greenEyes - (PFID:4d9c88ef) - 10:37pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8315 of 8380) What about this?Doesn't Ruth Street "deadend" at Battle Creek Park?
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:39pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8316 of 8380)
You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe.
lucy the plump pitcher... from Charley Brown.. I Know nothing of baseball.. so eh...
Wabbit - (PFID:13d98a) - 10:45pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8327 of 8380)
Charlie Brown was the pitcher not lucy. Although, I think Peppermint Patty was the pitcher on the opposing team. Charlie Brown was plump though.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:46pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8328 of 8380)
Robert Frost wrote a poem called "Windmill" I had to read it for school
The Usual Suspect - (PFID:2fce3e19) - 10:57pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8337 of 8380)
I believe in God, but the only thing that scares me is Keyser Soze
Tilt = arcade
plump pitcher has to be the street name?
david wells?
anyone got anything else
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 11:17pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8354 of 8380)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street
jack morris graduated from HIGHLAND
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 11:28pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8358 of 8380)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street
Plump pitcher - a pitcher of Pig's Eye beer?
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 11:33pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8360 of 8380)
This year we're gonna find it!
a bunch of malarkey = in a pig's eye
iamcold - (PFID:2fce43db) - 11:38pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 8362 of 8380)
tilt at windmill
I found an idiom for the windmill thing.
tilt at windmills= to confront and engage in conflict with an imagined opponent or threat. Does this mean if you go where the conflict or "battle is" your hunt will be at a standstill because it is at Phalen?
Nancy - (PFID:13d713) - 12:01am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8371 of 8380)
http://www.actionsquad.org/phalen1.htm
This is kind of interesting. Found it while digging into Phalen. I know that the area near there with the shopping mall and such used to be a wetland
Nancy - (PFID:13d713) - 12:28am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8374 of 8380)
Gotta run. You might like this one too:
http://www.actionsquad.org/underground.html
Have a great night
Jesus Christ aka Rob Negro - (PFID:4d9c7c54) - 02:28am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8379 of 8380)
Representing the MidWest
B ITS NOT BATTLE CREEK FOR THE LOVE OF MYSELF!!!!!!!
"Tilt at a windmill, hunt till a standstill" WHEELOCK!!!!
"plump pitcher" either Frank Viola: Frank st or some guy named Hoyt hes in the MLB hall of fame. Hoyt st.
whew! finally caught up!
lilslim - (PFID:2fce3e5e) - 09:53pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6616 of 6883)
My Dal, all decked out.
Don Quixote (or Don Quijote) de ... adjective "quixotic," meaning "idealistic and impractical,"
derives from his name, and the expression "tilting at windmills
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 10:03pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6649 of 6883)
Ah.... Don Quxiote... Ah, guys? He was a knight.
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 10:05pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6651 of 6883)
any hit on this old time tennis player (Lakely Oliver)
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:09pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6662 of 6883)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
Cervantes who wrote of Don Quixote's famous attack on the windmill giants
Sparky - (PFID:2fce51f8) - 10:16pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6683 of 6883)
He who is fixed to a star does not change his mind. - Leonardo da Vinci
De nada.
Through the woodlands, through the valley
rides a horseman wild and free
tilting at the windmills passing
who can the brave young horseman be
From the Fogelburb song. Heh.
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 10:17pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6686 of 6883)
<------- I am the standard by which all others are judged. Mrs. P. Creepy Guy
sparkeeee! Gordon Lightfoot. :P
Sparky - (PFID:2fce51f8) - 10:20pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6688 of 6883)
He who is fixed to a star does not change his mind. - Leonardo da Vinci
Lightfoot, Fogelburb, you say banana... Hee! Must be late.
he takes a rusty sword into his hand
and striking up a knightly pose
he shouts across the ocean to the shore
till he can shout no more
LIQUOR LADY - (PFID:13d334) - 10:29pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6704 of 6884)
All hail the Canadian Lesbians!
Is this talking about Babe ruth? the plump pitcher?
It's not the biggest personnel mistake in Red Sox history -- an honor already reserved for owner Harry Frazee's decision to sell a plump pitcher-outfielder to the New York Yankees some 80 years ago -- but it's got a pretty good claim to second-place on that list.
When baseball people see Roger Clemens -- still going strong at 40, nearing career victory No. 300 -- they feel compelled to ask former Red Sox general manager Dan Duquette exactly the same question Jay Leno asked of Hugh Grant:
"What were you thinking?''
lilslim - (PFID:2fce3e5e) - 10:30pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6707 of 6884)
My Dal, all decked out.
Yes LL, he was sold in 1919 i think from red sox to yankees
Sparky - (PFID:2fce51f8) - 10:34pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6712 of 6884)
He who is fixed to a star does not change his mind. - Leonardo da Vinci
standstill = freeze?
 Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:34pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6713 of 6884)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
A chubby pitcher could be a Toby jug
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 10:41pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6722 of 6884)
I once caught a fish this Big!
I don't like the "plump pitcher" being Babe Ruth. While possible, I think it is way too soon after Conway to use that again. I do think the two cluewriters are different, but I'm thinking that it really would be lazy if this is true.
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 10:48pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6746 of 6885)
wait! what's this under the stove??? Cool! A furry dried up gherkin! I'm keeping it. I'm naming him Dennis. He will be my good luck pickle. And dennis and I will be friends, and traverse the countryside performing good deeds.
OK, I'm going to answer my own question. David Letterman called pitcher Terry Forster a fat tub of goo on his late night show once.
Forster, Forest St?
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 10:51pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6749 of 6885)
Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited!
Frosti! Good find! Forest St borders to the west.
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 10:55pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6757 of 6885)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
Poetry of Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Ultima Thule
THE WINDMILL
Behold! a giant am I!
  Aloft here in my tower,
  With my granite jaws I devour
The maize, and the wheat, and the rye,
  And grind them into flour.
I look down over the farms;
  In the fields of grain I see
  The harvest that is to be,
And I fling to the air my arms,
  For I know it is all for me.
I hear the sound of flails
  Far off, from the threshing-floors
  In barns, with their open doors,
And the wind, the wind in my sails,
  Louder and louder roars.
I stand here in my place,
  With my foot on the rock below,
  And whichever way it may blow
I meet it face to face,
  As a brave man meets his foe.
And while we wrestle and strive
  My master, the miller, stands
  And feeds me with his hands;
For he knows who makes him thrive,
  Who makes him lord of lands.
On Sundays I take my rest;
  Church-going bells begin
  Their low, melodious din;
I cross my arms on my breast,
  And all is peace within.
MedallionStallion - (PFID:2fce4709) - 10:56pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6760 of 6885)
If you hide the medallion, even in your hearts, there will he rake for it . . . -Henry V
The only thing I can get from this clue so far is that I think "lakely" just means it's not far from the lake. I think the clue writer called it "lakely" cause it needs to rhyme with likely, and because it makes it a little more mysterious than "it's not far from the lake". That's my take on it anyways, that that line only means its close to a lake. A park with a lake.
RandyRust - (PFID:2fce3d75) - 11:00pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6769 of 6885)
The Winter Carnival Rocks!! where were you??mikey - longfellow runs into bc right?
frosti - where the heck you been??
lil slim??? you work late?
RandyRust - (PFID:2fce3d75) - 11:02pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6776 of 6885)
The Winter Carnival Rocks!! hmmmthe camo crue thinks that a plump pitcher would throw a "fat " pitch and let the hitter hit a HOMER >homer street runs into highland > they have been there for 3 days (highland) sorry if i let your cat out the bag camo crue
MedallionStallion - (PFID:2fce4709) - 11:05pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6781 of 6885)
If you hide the medallion, even in your hearts, there will he rake for it . . . -Henry V
The oarfish is the longest bony fish in the sea. Also known as the ribbon fish, it can grow up to 50 feet in length and weigh as much as 100 pounds. The oarfish is easily distinguished by its shiny, silvery body and its bright red crest that runs the entire length of its body. Oarfish live in the deep ocean at depths down to 3000 feet. They have only been known to come up to the surface when sick or dying and have rarely ever been seen alive. Oarfish have a small mouth and no teeth. They strain crustaceans from the gill rakers in their mouth. It is believed that an oarfish can survive with only half of its body intact. It is believed that the oarfish may have been responsible for the many sightings of sea serpents reported by ancient mariners. It is indeed one of the strangest looking fish in the sea. Oarfish are found throughout the deep seas of the eastern Atlantic and Mediterranean sea.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 11:13pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6801 of 6885)
But a pitcher wouldn't keep you at bay if he threw you a ball to hit a homer. He'd have to throw you stikes to keep you at bay.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 11:16pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6809 of 6885)
A standstill's a dead end.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 11:18pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6812 of 6885)
So my take is, go from the windmill to a dead end and if you hit the pitcher you've gone too far.
Kitch - (PFID:4d9c7f8c) - 11:25pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6822 of 6885)
tilt
NOUN: 1. Deviation from a particular direction: cant1, grade, gradient, heel2, inclination, incline, lean1, list2, rake2, slant, slope, tip2. See RISE, STRAIGHT. 2. Any competition or test of opposing wills likened to the sport in which knights fought with lances: joust, tournament, tourney. See CONFLICT.
did somebody say KNIGHT?
Kitch - (PFID:4d9c7f8c) - 11:27pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6824 of 6885)
tilt
VERB: 1. To strive in opposition: battle, combat, contend, duel, fight, struggle, war, wrestle. See CONFLICT. 2. To depart or cause to depart from true vertical or horizontal: cant1, heel2, incline, lean1, list2, rake2, slant, slope, tip2. See STRAIGHT.
back to battle
RandyRust - (PFID:2fce3d75) - 11:30pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6830 of 6885)
The Winter Carnival Rocks!! night leeone question-
who the hell is don Q and why shouldi know him>?
Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 11:32pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6834 of 6885)
An intelligent yet strange knight-like person who rides around with a bucket as a helmet chasing windmills thinking they are the enemy.
leelabell - (PFID:13d2de) - 11:33pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6836 of 6885)
Randy, he was an ousted player on the Apprentice. :)
The windmill phrase came from Don Quixote - use google and start reading, there is lots out there.
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 11:34pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6839 of 6885)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
Take a stand with your fiery band
Tilt at a windmill, hunt till a standstill could this be a stand of trees??
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 11:40pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6844 of 6885)
This year we're gonna find it!
Clue 8 has me reaching for straws but the malarkey word be like "that's a bunch of malarkey" and could that mean the same as "in a pig's eye?"
me2 - (PFID:13d2d2) - 11:50pm Jan 31, 2004 PST (# 6855 of 6896)
"The blue ones take me to first, the yellow to second, the brown ones to third, and the green?...they get me a hooooooooooooome run!"
1 entry found for winter crop.
winter crop
Winter \Win"ter\, n. [AS. winter; akin to OFries. & D. winter, OS. & OHG. wintar, G. winter, D. & Sw. vinter, Icel. vetr, Goth. wintrus; of uncertain origin; cf. Old Gallic vindo- white (in comp.), OIr. find white. ????.] 1. The season of the year in which the sun shines most obliquely upon any region; the coldest season of the year. ``Of thirty winter he was old.'' --Chaucer.
And after summer evermore succeeds Barren winter, with his wrathful nipping cold. --Shak.
Winter lingering chills the lap of May. --Goldsmith.
Note: North of the equator, winter is popularly taken to include the months of December, January, and February (see Season). Astronomically, it may be considered to begin with the winter solstice, about December 21st, and to end with the vernal equinox, about March 21st.
2. The period of decay, old age, death, or the like.
Life's autumn past, I stand on winter's verge. --Wordsworth.
RandyRust - (PFID:2fce3d75) - 12:00am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6869 of 6896)
The Winter Carnival Rocks!! wintry cropWINTry cROP
WINT H ROP
WINTHROP
marley king - (PFID:13d2d5) - 02:35am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6886 of 6886)
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Battling windmills
Meaning: Fighting pointless battles or imaginary enemies, with conviction.
Example: She wastes her efforts battling windmills, trying to get her husband to put the cap on the toothpaste, and put the seat down.
Origin: A reference to the book "Don Quixote", in which the hero delusionally thinks that windmills are dragons that he must slay. Sometimes heard as "tilting at windmills".
JOE!
marley king - (PFID:13d2d5) - 03:13am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6888 of 6896)
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Posted by ESC on January 23, 2001 at 23:55:38:
In Reply to: Malarkey a.k.a malarky posted by Bruce Kahl on January 23, 2001 at 18:42:49:
: When,in 1961,I proclaimed my innocence of drinking beer and smoking cigarettes (the other smokables were not around yet), my father would tell me "Oh yeah, you're full of malarkey since you smell like a brewery".
: Any ideas on the origin or root of malarkey?
: thanx
: bk
I learned that the expression dates back to the 1920s and may come from a surname. Other than that, origin unknown:
1. “malarkey has been a part of American slang at least since the 1930s. It means pretentious, exaggerated, high-flown language that finally adds up to nothing much at all. It’s a latter-day synonym for ‘baloney’ or ‘bunk.’” From “Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins” by William and Mary Morris (HarperCollins, New York, 1977, 1988).
2. “malarkey or malarky n. 1929, of unknown origin.” From “The Barnhart Concise Dictionary of Etymology” by Robert K. Barnhart (HarperCollins Publishers, New York, 1995).
3. “malarkey, 1920s” From “I Hear America Talking” by Stuart Berg Flexner (Von Nostrand Reinhold Co., New York, 1976).
4. “malarkey or malarky n. (perh. obscurely fr. the family name; semantic devel. Unkn.) 1. Nonsense...” From “Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang, Volume 1, H-O” by J.E. Lighter, Random House, New York, 1994.
Dwade - (PFID:4d9c87a7) - 07:08am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8392 of 8591) Tilt
On the PP posts, link to: http://www.baseball-statistics.com/HOF/Wilhelm.htm
Interesting that his nicknames are snax and tilt, which is a pitching technique. Back to baseball ref? Standstill=tie game, medallion in a tie? tied up?
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 07:46am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8393 of 8591)
Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited!
JC! I think you've got it! I believe that Wheelock Whitney is the tilted windmill guy.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 08:20am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8396 of 8591)
Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited!
He's a philanthropist. Has won recognition for helping make improvements in the commmunity. I think of it as helping out the underdog a bit and that's where I get the tilting at windmills.
Maybe it's wrong, but it is possible.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 09:53am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8405 of 8591)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
I've got a case o'the doubles - AGAIN - in this clue. The old lakeys.
It *could* bee two... Lake Agazzi (sp?), or annudder one a wee bit closer to home. The "malarky" would fit with the closer to home one, but then the top o'the clue I can't get to fit.
I'm still stickin' in BC.
princesslou - (PFID:2fce42ef) - 10:10am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8410 of 8591)
my favorite fiery band from that emerald isle... U2 singing "still haven't found what I'm looking for"
wild fan - (PFID:2fce4278) - 11:06am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8429 of 8591) here is a thought, "twist"
http://www.hometownsource.com/features/wintercarnival/
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 11:11am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8430 of 8591)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey.
So we're back to the 2 medallion idea, hmm? I LOVE IT!
COOL!! A 2 thread JOE! at the same time! I didn't even try! Here ya go, Frosti
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 11:18am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8432 of 8591)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
So, I'm only 1/2 rite?
If two, I'm going on record as saying they're both in the same regional park!
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 11:20am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8433 of 8591)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
They hid two that year because the first one was found sooner than they liked. So they hid a second.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 11:21am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8435 of 8591)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
Hhhuuummm.... I wonder... Every other Clue? Or one stanza from each clue? And izzit always the top stanza for one park, the second stanza for the udder? Or do they mix'um up?
iamcold - (PFID:2fce43db) - 12:00pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8460 of 8604)
could someone tell me about the light rail transit project? Jesse Ventura was referred to as a "Tilt at a windmill" for his views on this subject. I was wondering if the rails travelled from east to west or where they would originate or something?????
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 12:01pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8461 of 8604)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey.
the light rail goes from downtown minneapolis to the mall of america
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 12:01pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8462 of 8604)
"It's a small world after all."
I was wondering if Xcel Energy had anything to do w/ the location of the park due to the Windmill clue - that is one of the forms of energy they use isnt it? I know it is stretching.
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 12:05pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8463 of 8604)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey.
Annie- nothing is a stretch with these clues this year- check it out.
I've been looking for a park that uses wind power to supplement it, but I'm getting nowhere slowly
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 12:24pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8467 of 8604)
"It's a small world after all."
Hunt till a standstill = hunting stand
And bay in clue #8 could be a lake or body of water which would go with lakely.
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 12:43pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8475 of 8604)
"It's a small world after all."
Hasn't it bothered you that In clue 2 it says "the object this week"? Didn't they think it would last more than a week? That is why I started to think they meant "weak". And the object could be an Irish Spring soap box (which of course would go with all the water themes).
And the reference to being a clever device w/ false advise and prank leads me to believe it could be something that has a false bottom in it.
Or could mean that it is in an Irish Spring box which is inside something else.
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 01:00pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8482 of 8604)
This year we're gonna find it!
Being an old Harding grad, we used to call the Johnson Governors the guppies.
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 05:06pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8549 of 8604)
"It's a small world after all."
Tilt at a windmill...
I looked up the word Windmill at the Merriam Webster Dictionery online & the 3rd version states:
3 [from the episode in Don Quixote by Cervantes in which the hero attacks windmills under the illusion that they are giants] : an imaginary wrong, evil, or opponent -- usually used in the phrase to tilt at windmills
Perhaps someone posted this earlier - but does anyone know does would Don Quixote have anything to do w/ any of these clues?
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 05:08pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8551 of 8604)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. AnnieIf's refering to that definition I believe it's pointing at attacks windmills under the illusion that they are giants] : an imaginary wrong, evil, or opponent AS in if you keep batting your false pretenses you are going to be at a stand still.
Need to figure out what the pitcher is.
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 05:12pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8552 of 8604)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet.
Here's a thought. If we assume the cluewriter is evil, they very well might have purposely used the word "lakely" knowing that people wouldn't be able to make sense of this clue and would just focus on the word "lake" in it. So perhaps that means the treasure is at a park that does *not* have a lake. Otherwise, if it was by a lake, why write such a strange complex clue if people are just going to zoom in on "lake" and ignore the rest? It only makes sense to use that word if you're trying to deceive people.
The first black woman to find the puck - (PFID:4d9c81b3) - 05:19pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8555 of 8604) this is stressing me outAnyone ever heard that phalen used to be called old lakely, the old mom's is swearing by it
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 05:21pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8556 of 8604)
www.finddru.com
never heard of it, but its possible
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 05:21pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8558 of 8604) any street names giving yet????hold u at bay=bay street= palace rec
no disgrace=grace street=linwood rec
e.side w.side 35E=35w???
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 05:22pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8559 of 8604)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet. Anyone ever heard that phalen used to be called old lakely, the old mom's is swearing by it I've not heard it, but it's possible. Phalen, Como, Battle Creek and other areas were not originally part of St. Paul. They were annexed later on. So it's possible that area had a name of it's own at one time and it could have been Lakely.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 05:50pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8569 of 8604)
Brain after too much noodlin'
Annie Hi!
drove past the DNR on Warner Road the other day and they have removed the "Fish Hatchery" part from their DNR sign. I know it used to say it on the sign but it no longer does. Is it still in existence at that location
When I was at Battle down by 61 two days ago I saw all the railroad cars down there and noticed how much they looked like "monster fish schoolin'" I asked my husband if there is a car fish and he said he thought so spelled char-- but upon investigation I think I concluded it is pronounced like char as in charcoal? anyone know ?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 05:55pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8571 of 8604)
Brain after too much noodlin'
splitrock what was the info you had about the windmill at Phalen last night? Didn't there used to be a water paddle wheel on the north part of the lake many moons ago?
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 05:58pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8573 of 8604)
www.finddru.com
I read somewhere that they had to pump water into the Lake years ago, and something about a windmill to do that with???????????
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 06:04pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8577 of 8604)
Brain after too much noodlin'
Here is that 1910 Windmill street reference for St. Paul
http://www.kinsource.com/ED1910Census/StPaulIndexW.htm#Windmill
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 06:11pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8579 of 8604)
Brain after too much noodlin'
Here is a link to Representative Phil Krinkie "tilting at a windmill" who happened to be ex-Governor Jesse Ventura. Krinkie is rep. for Shoreview...hmmm..
http://www.citypages.com/bestof2001/citygritty/bestof1346.asp
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 06:31pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8584 of 8604)
"It's a small world after all."
The Minnesota Dance Festival will be performing "DON QUIXOTE"
to premiere April 30, 2004 at the Fitzgerald Theater, St Paul
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 07:25pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8592 of 8604)
if two years ago people complained the hunt was too ez & last year the clue writer was chastised for making it too hard, what if they left something very helpful in the first clue, in fact the first line of the first clue......
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 07:28pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8593 of 8604)
here's a noodle for ya, the very first line on the very first clue, Say It Ain't So, Clueless Joe ...... well, there was a song from 1958 called --> Say It Ain't So, Joe - the artist that did it was......
LIQUOR LADY - (PFID:13d334) - 07:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8595 of 8604)
All hail the Canadian Lesbians!
Gary brooker wrote it
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 07:31pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8596 of 8604)
Dakota Staton -- later in 1977 also a song by that name recorded by Roger Daltrey. but i think we all know Dakota has relevance to Dakota county, which also borders Cherokee Park on the West Side, but not quite in west saint paul.
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 07:32pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8599 of 8604)
This year we're gonna find it!
Roger Daltry??
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 07:34pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8602 of 8604)
'Dakota Staton' was the first person to perform a song called "Say It Ain't So, Joe" in 1958
- reference Album Cuts, by Joel Whitburn (2001)
(this book lists songs by name and every artist to ever perform them with the year next to their name)
http://www.recordresearch.com/tracks.html#poptracks
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 07:45pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8605 of 8606)
also Pigs Eye Lake Park almost borders Dakota county, if ya don't count the river being in the way, is there actually a way to get to that park? the city map just shows it is there.
Stew - (PFID:4d9c8210) - 08:01pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8606 of 8606)
The song Say It Ain't So, Joe was also done by the Hollies, Murray Head, and the Nolans in addition to Roger Daltrey and Gary Brooker.
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 08:26pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8610 of 8760)
in regards to the windmill clue, my grandfather said there used to be an old windmill just off Hwy 36 over in the Phalen/Keller Park area, does anyone know anything about this? just noodlin, cmon people....
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:16pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8612 of 8760)
I can crack a code from a DVD on Mars that's 10 million miles away, but I can't find a little plastic puck in my neighborhood!
"What a bunch of malarkey!" you say.
Maybe that's the important line. This clue is just a lot of useless jibberish if you try to take it literally. Maybe there's a secret code in here we're still missing.
my roommate thought earlier that Lark Ave was what they meant. Lark Ave is located at the extreme north side of keller.
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:29pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8624 of 8760)
"Hopefully Your's" "No, no I mean mine!!"
New Daddy I'm wit you on the kool aid thing- but thing it means "first aid station" in the park?
Also some older gal told me Saturday morning while lookin' for the precious in Keller/Phalen 911 Frost is just about where the Gateway bridge crosses Phalen Keller by the two "arch" bridges/underpasses
and you get a good view of Arcade from back there too close to the archery ranges but not too far away from the lake
there is also a Belmont St or Lane that borders the other side of the Rough of the golf course "swift" clue race track?
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 09:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8627 of 8760)
all alone on the road to perfection
You heard it here, it's Phalen.
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 09:35pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8632 of 8760)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey.
So are you not succeeding because you're IN phalen, or if you're NOT in phalen?
Disc golf? Near Phalen?, Or the disc being the medallion?
A 2 xanax moment...
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 09:36pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8633 of 8760)
WTF?
in a flower bed?
But what freakin park???
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:37pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8634 of 8760)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street
my Cherokee Park theory from 2 days ago is looking better and better
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:38pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8638 of 8760)
"Hopefully Your's" "No, no I mean mine!!"
Disc=medallion
Clue Master - (PFID:13d2ed) - 09:39pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8642 of 8760)
Taglines Are For Idiots!!
It's not disk golf anyway, it's disc golf. Phalen
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 09:44pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8650 of 8760)
plants unfit for weedin, street names?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 09:45pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8652 of 8760)
"Hopefully Your's" "No, no I mean mine!!"
plants unfit for weedin' are "weeds"--brush
Head_Spins - (PFID:4d9c87a5) - 09:47pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8654 of 8760) far from secceddin' =Failin'?
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 09:47pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8655 of 8760)
In zone 4 of Phalen Park there's a native wildflower sign. It's letter E page 64 of the THG. Anyone else think those may be flowers not fit for weeding?
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:47pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8657 of 8760)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street
plants is plural...prob. not the ford plant
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 09:48pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8659 of 8760)
www.finddru.com
no its the name of the streets bt there
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:50pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8662 of 8760)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street dont think they would want people digging in the native wildflower area...thats why they put the sign there...even if it just means its near there, the PP wouldnt take the chance cause people would sig that area regardless
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 09:51pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8664 of 8760)
all alone on the road to perfection
Regardless of what they meant, it says "among" them. People are gonna dig them up.
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 09:52pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8665 of 8760)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street think succeeding is spelled wrong in the clue
noname86 - (PFID:2fce43d0) - 09:55pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8667 of 8760)
HMmmmmm.... I tHiNk SoMeThInG's SuPPoSed To Go HeRe.........
hmm.... plants unfit for weedin...............como conservatory anyone??
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:55pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8668 of 8760)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
It was spelling alright. Just missing a G
Medallion Tracker - (PFID:2fce4352) - 09:56pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8669 of 8760)
think its spelled succeedin so that its opposite is failen(Phalen)you know , instead of failing, which of course phaling isnt a park lol
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 09:56pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8670 of 8760)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey.
raking frozen wildflower beds won't hurt a thing, as a matter of fact, those annuals that are spread by seed benefit from a little shake-up, it's only if the rooted perennials are pulled that there's trouble.
KT the garden queen
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 09:57pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8671 of 8760)
Something to keep in mind though... technically wild flowers are weeds. Whether that helps or not I feel more lost tonight then I was last night. I thought this was suppose to get easier as the clues progressed!
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 09:58pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8672 of 8760)
oh my do you realize how many street names at phalen are flowers/plants most consecutively on the west side of the lake:
ivy, hycinth, rose, geranium, magnolia
they all appear to dead end right into the park
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 10:02pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8678 of 8760)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street
the clue doesnt say much..
could be the ford plant, could be bushes, could be wildflowers, or street names...fyi: there are at least 3 large areas that have wildflower sings at phalen
Head_Spins - (PFID:4d9c87a5) - 10:03pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8681 of 8760)
Disk as in Disc?
From the PP board, someone thought that the spelling of 'frisbee disc' is with a 'c' and not a 'k'. Thus implying the medal is hidden in a 3.5" floppy, or taped to a compact disk. I think they just meant the medallion. Something to keep in mind, unless you're blind.
onthejazz - (PFID:2fce46f4) - 10:07pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8690 of 8760)
from looking on the map i think its saying between ivy & magnolia streets which is at the bottom tip of the park & ivy is up from there, about 8 blocks between the two, most of which are flower/plant names but those are the two that seem to run right into the park.
chicago83 - (PFID:4d9c7e78) - 10:07pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8691 of 8760)
"Bud: How much is enough? Gekko: It's not a question of enough, pal. It's a zero sum game, somebody wins, somebody loses." -Wall Street
como park consevatory and highland park disc golf are good ideas...still not completely confident on phalen
Snowmommy - (PFID:4d9c8324) - 10:08pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8692 of 8760)
One more thing, I think most of Phalen is surrounded with these wild flowers. They planted them to fight an erosion problem. Good night now!
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:10pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8696 of 8760)
You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe.
I like the
"far from succeedin'" == failing == Phalen
Among plants unfit for weeding == streat names that dead end at phalen
Hunt till a standstill == Dead end (streets)
Big fish and bouncing ball == phalen miral
Wintery crop == ice blocks for palace.
I like it.. am I going to Phalen now? NO, do I think we'll make it to 12 clues.. YES
Medallion Tracker - (PFID:2fce4352) - 10:11pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8701 of 8760)
onthe jazz is on the right track. the clue has to be refering to something other than live plants, like the street signs, power plant, etc because all real plants would be fit for weedin. The clue says unfit for weedin.
dolly - (PFID:2fce437f) - 10:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8721 of 8760)
You don't have to be alone Joe. Hang with me Joe.
Of course, Rose deadends at como too...
PLEASE NOT COMO
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:56pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8746 of 8760)
"Hopefully Your's" "No, no I mean mine!!"
Oh I didn't slog I was sitting at the kitchen table going over the Hudson road map and it dawned on me! Also at the north east tip of the lake are two streets Frisbie and Frank (Viola?) the pitcher
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:57pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8747 of 8760)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
Wasn't he kind of a skinny fellow?
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 10:57pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8748 of 8760)
"Hopefully Your's" "No, no I mean mine!!"
Anyway that definately puts it at Phalen for me and the i think the puck is hidden back near the Phalen Keller line
TseekerSue - (PFID:2fce4372) - 11:13pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8757 of 8760)
"Hopefully Your's" "No, no I mean mine!!"
Oh yeah-- Helen KELLER was blind!
human24 - (PFID:2fce40d0) - 11:52pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 8759 of 8760)
Bring back the Weatherball. Save the Hunt.
Ball Park Franks plump when you cook 'em.
Annie - (PFID:2fce3c02) - 03:55am Feb 2, 2004 PST (# 8768 of 8768)
"It's a small world after all."
Plants that are unfit for weedin' - perhaps a park around the Xcel Energy Plant or Energy Park Drive or a computer company (disk)
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 06:49am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6911 of 7878)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 hoyt is a hall of famerthat would put it at phalen at about the rec center
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 06:50am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6912 of 7878)
I was looking at highwood hills rec center
baseball fields are named after Don L Samuelson
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 06:51am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6913 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como.
Hoyt?... hmmm does this bring us back around to the baseball reference at the first clue?
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 06:52am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6915 of 7878)
I am thining it has to ba on
a baseball feild near home plate
pitcher and get dirt on your knees???
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 06:54am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6917 of 7878)
I know I am being silly but what about
Beach Street?
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 06:55am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6918 of 7878)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
a pitcher will hold you at bay if your up at bat and he strikes you out
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 06:57am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6919 of 7878)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 Beach Street?e/w street in st paul/ not by any parks I don't think/maybe margaret playground
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 06:57am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6920 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey.
This may irk some folks- but a noodle came out about the 'where monster fish are schoolin' And there's a Pike Elementary really close to Long Lake Regional Park. Might be worth checking out. There's not a whole lot about it online. :(
Two in-a-row JOE! For Senor Frosti
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 06:57am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6921 of 7878)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 a pitcher will hold you at bay if your up at bat and he strikes you outthen you go back to the dugout?
LIQUOR LADY - (PFID:13d334) - 06:59am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6924 of 7878)
All hail the Canadian Lesbians!
do these things grow in minnesota?
Main Entry: pitcher plant
Function: noun
: a plant (especially family Sarraceniaceae, the pitcher-plant family) with leaves modified into pitchers in which insects are trapped and digested by means of liquids secreted by the leaves
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 07:00am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6925 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como.
That would work but not at Phalen... That bouncing ball isn't heading towards the baseball fields. And if the school of fish is what the writer was talking about then that to is to far away. My initaial thought of the rec center was never anything more then something green to let you know you were at the right park.... that is after you took arcade street to get to the park.
If it is Phalen which feels right to me... the writer basically took us to the park and walked us in the south entrance and then sent us up the bike path.
I think this clue is telling people why they are at the wrong park.
Need to know what the plump pitcher is. I was noodling this thing all night and didn't get to far.
Tilt at a windmill, hunt till a standstill – (3 [from the episode in Don Quixote by Cervantes in which the hero attacks windmills under the illusion that they are giants] : an imaginary wrong, evil, or opponent -- usually used in the phrase to tilt at windmills) If you are at "battling" the wrong enemy then your hunt is going nowhere. A plump pitcher may hold you at bay – (no clue) Look it's quite likely not far from old lakely – It's near the lake? "What a bunch of malarkey!" you say. – this is a bunch of nonsense?
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:02am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6927 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey.
HEY LL!!!! Yes, pitcher plants grow in MN!!!! They're really cool! Thet grow in dense, wet areas
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 07:03am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6928 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como.
KT I was looking at the pike elemetary. But the closest park to pike is Freedom?
mrmnmikey - Ramsey Department of public works :)
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:06am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6930 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey.
OTS About how many blocks away is Long Lake from there?
Frosti, DUDE!!! 3 For 3 JOE!!!
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 07:06am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6931 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. mrmnmikeyPitcher plant
2 : a modified leaf of a pitcher plant in which the hollowed
petiole and base of the blade form an elongated receptacle? \
You get anything from this?
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:08am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6932 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey.
Only that they do grow in MN, But I've never happened upon one around here.
Dunker - (PFID:2fce43e9) - 07:08am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6933 of 7878) Freedom ParkFreedom only has a small sledding hill, a softball field and a playground area. it is only 1.5 blocks big and is also used as the schoolyard at recess. The school is called "Pike Lake" and it's on the corner of Silver Lk Rd and 16th street.
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:10am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6934 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey.
I was thinking more about Long Lake park- how far away from Pike Elem is that?
Dunker - (PFID:2fce43e9) - 07:10am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6935 of 7878)
KT, it's about 4 blks from Long Lake. But, Long Lake Regoinal Park is on the OTHER side of Long Lake from Freedom...
Dunker - (PFID:2fce43e9) - 07:11am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6936 of 7878)
probably 2 miles by car, about a half mile if you cross frozen long lake...
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:12am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6939 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey.
So It's a stretch, and probably a moot noodle, hmm.
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 07:23am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6955 of 7878)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 tilt?Hoyt Wilhelm
#49 | Pitcher | San Francisco Giants/New York Giants
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James Hoyt Wilhelm: "Snacks," "Old Tilt"
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 07:26am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6959 of 7878)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008
Wilhelm was a high school pitcher in North Carolina when he read an article about knuckeballer Emil "Dutch" Leonard and began experimenting with the pitch. After a year in the minors, his progress was interrupted by WWII, in which he won the Purple Heart for heroic duty during the Battle of the Bulge.
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 07:29am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6963 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como.
Just throwing it out there.
Prattle - Synonyms CHAT 1, babble, chatter, clack, gab, gabber, jaw, prate, yak, yakety-yak 2
Synonyms BABBLE 2, blabber, blather, drivel, drool, gabble, prate, twaddle, ||waffle
malarkey - Synonyms NONSENSE 2, balderdash, blatherskite, bunkum, bushwa, guff, hogwash, hooey, poppycock, twaddle
It's all saying the same thing..... How much of this do we want to trust?
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 07:30am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6964 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como.
Hoyt was 6'0 and 190lbs.
I'm 6'4 240..... I could fair to lose a few pounds lol.
and mrmnmikey I see where Hoyt runs to Arcade.
DO you think this is the writers way of telling people they are still in the wrong park?
LIQUOR LADY - (PFID:13d334) - 07:31am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6966 of 7878)
All hail the Canadian Lesbians!
Tilt at a windmill- an imaginary wrong, evil or opponent.
Makes me think of crazy people or senile like the elderly, any places around by the parks that care for people who are crazy or senile?
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 07:33am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6969 of 7878)
but not as new as I used to be
Plump pitcher - the koolaid picture guy, I think it is hidden in a koolaid drink pouch
Or... Roger clemens is famous for pitching inside fast balls if the batter gets to close to the plate - holding them at bay, many a batter have thought trying to hit off clemens was tilting at windmills, Roger st is by highland...
I like the koolaid idea more
I love the bunck of malarky in a pigs eye noodle is it in St Paul???
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 07:37am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6973 of 7878)
this windmill thing has me utterly confused...I keep coming up with tilt-a-whirl...but that doesn't fit...
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 07:38am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6974 of 7878)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 tilt-a-whirl...but that doesn't fit...fits como
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:38am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6975 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey.
Gol! Every time it seems we have conviction in a park, we end up noodling ourselves into doubt. I repeat myself- I think the WRITER is the clever device here. This is fun!
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 07:38am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6976 of 7878)
Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited!
Wheelock Whitney, a Republican, ran for Governor of Minnesota against Rudy Perpich in 1982. He lost.
Mr. Whitney is a philanthropist and has a hall at the Minneapolis Community and Technical College named for him.
Wheelock Whitney has also won multiple awards and recognition for accomplishments impacting the community.
I think we got a street name. Anyone else think so?
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 07:38am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6977 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. an imaginary wrong, as in... you see an evil don't believe it.. becasue it will tell you that you are in the wrong place... even though you aren't? I'm convinced it's in Phalen... but then they say we might be pranking you... then.... they say hey now you are worried about it... are you sure that there is even anything wrong with your pick?
DAMMIT JIM!
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 07:41am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6981 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como.
Terry I think you might be right....
I don't think the East side West side was talking about Wheelock. I think it was refering to the taking your honey for a ride in a boat from the boat house to the East shore and back to the West shore. The area under the dock is Rocky and Sandy.
I think we might have Wheelock now....
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 07:45am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6988 of 7878)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet.
How does Wheelock Whitney fit this clue? And how did someone get pumping water into a lake out of this clue?
The thing I get out of the first two lines is that tilting at windmills, being at a standstill, and being held at bay all seem to represent not being able to do something.
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 07:47am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6989 of 7878)
AW I get out of not being able to do something...a wall or a fence or something in your way so you can go no further...start diggin...
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 07:48am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6990 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey.
Like going no further, AW? at a dead end, maybe?
edit: Joe for frosti- you thought I'd miss this one, didn't you?
The Map Guy - (PFID:13d404) - 07:51am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 6993 of 7878)
How 'bout a Map? www.treasurehunt.8m.com
I think the clue writer is still attacking us rather than giving us a meaty clue.
We've been accused of attacking false enemies, and I get a sneaky sense that our hubris has caused this wickedness in the clue writer.
He/she is getting pleasure knowing what we are being led astray.
If its not at Phalen, there's no use in hunting anymore until the 12th clue.
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 08:08am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7031 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como.
Link
http://www.geocities.com/urbanspeleology/troutbrook.html
Not sure if theres anything in there.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 08:13am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7038 of 7878)
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OTS - Interesting.
Allison - I believe the tilting at windmills is about working to make things work that may not be necessarily popular or considered possible. Philanthropy can certainly be part of that work. Making a difference. Dreaming the dream. That's where I fit Wheelock Whitney in this rhyme.
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 08:17am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7044 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como.
reading that deal about the tunnel....
Trout Brook, which drains McCarron's Lake in Roseville, was tributary to Phalen Creek, which drains Lake Phalen. Man-o-man i'm stretching blindly here.....
Up creek?
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 08:20am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7048 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como.
I think windmill still has to do with [from the episode in Don Quixote by Cervantes in which the hero attacks windmills under the illusion that they are giants] : an imaginary wrong, evil, or opponent -- usually used in the phrase to tilt at windmills If you keep on that path of illusion you are going to be at a standstill.
Whats the illusion? That we are being pranked?
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 08:20am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7049 of 7878)
There is a Fish Creek Park in Maplewood.
Evildoer - (PFID:2fce45bf) - 08:23am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7056 of 7878)
Lurk No More!
Morning all! Can't chat long. I have to spend some PT with W&Ks...one thing about todays clue keeps bugging me..."old lakely" is such wierd choice of words to use if its just trying to say its near a lake. Maybe we're supposed tp look for a park near something like "Veterans Lake" apartments (just an example) or Elder Lake Lane (another example). Just a random noodle that won't lead anywhere, but feel better now by mentioning it.
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 08:24am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7057 of 7878) mad search for maps of fish creek parkahh its by Carver Lake in Woodbury but its on the Maplewood side south of Battle Creek
MedallionStallion - (PFID:2fce4709) - 08:41am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7067 of 7878)
If you hide the medallion, even in your hearts, there will he rake for it . . . -Henry V
For anyone convinced that the plump pitcher is that Forster guy from David Letterman: There is a Forster st. in St. paul, which if you follow a line from it east over the river leads right into Cherokee.
But I'm not really convinced that's the plump pitcher referrence
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 08:41am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7068 of 7878)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 cool EagsBEST TILT AT A WINDMILL
Krinkie vs. Ventura
There's no doubt that Gov. Jesse Ventura is Minnesota's preeminent windmill--if only for the amount of hot air he spins. Phil Krinkie, the Republican legislator from Shoreview, might be the Minnesota House of Representatives' preeminent Don Quixote, by virtue of his vociferous and futile opposition to light-rail transit....
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 08:47am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7074 of 7878)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 vociferous and futile oppositiongo the other way? Opposite of clue 7 and the bouncing balls?
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 08:48am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7076 of 7878)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet.
So does anyone know where to find a map of Ramsey County from the 1860's?
MedallionStallion - (PFID:2fce4709) - 08:51am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7081 of 7878)
If you hide the medallion, even in your hearts, there will he rake for it . . . -Henry V
From what I can tell it seems we have been told it is in a park with a golf course and a lake. That doesn't leave a whole lot, and Phalen makes the most sense of all of them.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 08:58am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7087 of 7878)
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We'll be out there around 1 or so.
So how's this for tilt at a windmill...uphill battle.
tim_the_hunter - (PFID:f7c6207) - 09:00am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7089 of 7878)
<---- "It's true that I hadn't showered, But I did brush my teeth.''
If to tilt at windmills means to engage in conflict with an imagined opponent, and it goes on to say "hunt at a standstill", it makes me think they are saying we are at the wrong park (there is a conflict between hunters and the park).
That being said, I can't figure out which plump pitcher at Phalen is holding us at bay. But looking back at the clues, I think Phalen is the obvious choice, and what the cluewriter WANTED us to be thinking.
"What a bunch of malarkey!" you say.
I don't know about you guys, but if you is us and us is medallion hunters, then we are saying its a bunch of malarkey, that makes me think its at como.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 09:01am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7090 of 7878)
Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited! StandstillSTANDSTILL
Pronunciation: 'stand`stil
WordNet Dictionary
Definition: [n] an interruption of normal activity
[n] a situation in which no progress can be made; "reached an impasse on the negotiations"
Synonyms: deadlock, impasse, stalemate, stand, tie-up
See Also: arrest, check, halt, halt, hitch, stay, stop, stop, stoppage
Webster's 1913 Dictionary
Definition: \Stand"still`\, n.
A standing without moving forward or backward; a stop; a
state or rest.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 09:03am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7091 of 7878)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
Hi everyone; I was babysitting my grandson all day and night yesterday (the one you see) so I have been out of the loop. I dont even know how to comment on this new clue. Could the Don Quoite shooting at windmills have anything to do with the new stadium location?
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 09:04am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7092 of 7878)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet.
I believe there used to be a city in MN called Lakely, but I don't know where. I've only found one small reference to it so far in a Civil War document where it mentioned some people coming from the Minnesota 6th Infantry coming from Lakely.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 09:04am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7093 of 7878)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
Marning, 'Heads.
The old lakley is Lake Agazzi, or whatever. I didn't spell it right.
Or ittiz the lake that used to be in Carver's cave, that is not there any more. But I can't get the rest o'the clues to fit there.
But for rubbish - "malarky." But it think marlarky's just being used to fit in with the udder Irish stuff.
leelabell - (PFID:13d2de) - 09:06am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7095 of 7878)
AW - I posted this in your group:
AW - have done some research on the 6th Infantry - the other sites
say they went to Fort Blakely, AL - I think your site might be have a
typo.
Here is one:
http://kathrynmn_1.tripod.com/civilwar.htm
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 09:07am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7096 of 7878)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
And did you notice the first letters o'the clue spell "WALT"?
Eags - (PFID:2fce3c0e) - 09:08am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7101 of 7878)
I like the idea that old lakely could mean the glacial lake that isn't there anymore. Will file that away and see if any future clues go there.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 09:44am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7128 of 7878)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
Pops pointed out that we're back with the feet thing yet again on this clue: stand. There's an awful lot o'feet references in these clues. Beats me if means anything. I'm totally defeated there.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:47am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7129 of 7878)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
Feet=clogs=standstill(water that is).
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 10:08am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7139 of 7878)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
Neither BC or Phalen? Could bee... But I still think BC. And the eastern part, not the western by Mounds.
Found this interesting tid-bit. Did you know Oldies Ice Palce was built on Dayton's Bluff? Like somewhere near Mounds Park and/or Mounds Playground?
Pops and I have been noodling Mounds Playgournd a bit...
Kitch - (PFID:4d9c7f8c) - 10:18am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7142 of 7878)
"battle with imagined opponent or threat" - ghosts or ghost....mounds?
only ghosts i can think of...
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 10:25am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7143 of 7878)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
Casper The Ghost? Casper's Chair-O-Key Steak House?
K T - (PFID:13d318) - 11:18am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7163 of 7878)
<------- I once dated Don Quxiote, but he was full of malarkey.
was Carver's cave the old Libby's Mushroom caves? I 'member going in there a few times in the 80's
Regman - (PFID:2fce42f6) - 11:21am Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7164 of 7878)
Carver's cave is an area on the lower part of Indian Mounds that was explored ages ago by Carver
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 12:58pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7202 of 7879)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 just back from phalen/bcfound this across from the beach at phalen. A lighted ice sculpture in front of a green house at Frank St and Ivy. (picture of mini ice palace in someones yard) Green Emerald???
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 01:01pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7204 of 7879)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 also found some bouncing balls at BC
(picture of metal?sculpture type thing of football,basketball, baseball)
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 01:02pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7206 of 7879)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como.
mrmnmikey did you see a way to follow them?
mrmnmikey - (PFID:2fce3e8e) - 01:04pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7207 of 7879)
so close in como! Proud owner of ice palace block 002008 don't know how to follow 'em exept on the ball feildsthere are 2 of those things out there
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 01:26pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7227 of 7879)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
Walter (WALT) Johnson (JOHNSON PKWY) was the all time leader at shutouts. Kept quite a few at bay, huh?
Now near there is the old lakely that used to be in Carver's Cave in the sandstone cliffs. Same cliffs that honey got tossed off of.
Here's what I've come up with in the last few hours.
The dualities. One park - Battle Creek Regional Park, that has TWO areas/two seperate parks. And that ball keeps bouncing between the two parks. Both have pitchers, both have schoolin' momster fish, both have archery, both had ski jumps, both have peak/peeks, both have watery drops... But what which area?
I'm torn in two!
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 01:29pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7229 of 7879)
just did a search on AOL they are from the 1800's. They are in French because the French settled here first or explored here but I'm fairly certain there is no Lakely listed. http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/map_item.pl?data=/home/www/data/gmd/gmd404/g4042/g4042m/ct001034.sid&itemLink=r?ammem/gmd:@filreq(@field(NUMBER+@band(g4042m+ct001034))+@field(COLLID+dsxpmap))&title=Les+costes+aux+environs+de+la+rivière+de+Misisipi+:+&style=dsxpmap&legend=
These are kinda heard to navigate around in but here is one I found.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 01:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7230 of 7879)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
Oh! And both areas are names of regional areas - Battle Creek and Mounds. And both were/are on the "it can't be there list."
I'm still in BC. Still. I may/prolly will regret this, yet again, but I'm still in BC.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 01:33pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7232 of 7879)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
Oh. And both have sandstone cliffs.
Yeah, Lisa... BC.
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 01:35pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7233 of 7879)
Neither here nore there could mean
not lower BC or BC park but BC rec is
in the middle???
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 01:37pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7234 of 7879)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
how does "in the rough" apply to BC. is there a golf course there
last hope - (PFID:2fce4529) - 01:38pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7235 of 7879)
QueenMalley
In the rough-diamond baseball fields?
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 01:40pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7236 of 7879)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
Could be, Lisa.
But it could also mean it's not in either part of the BC BC, but closer to the "malarkey"/rubbish - IM.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 01:41pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7237 of 7879)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
Usually past clues always talk about a golf course to stay away from if the park is near/at a golf course. That fact that clue 5 says "dont look in the rough" seems to me that this park does have a golf course to stay away from. If there was no golf course affiliated with the park, no mention would be made. Thats my impression.
last hope - (PFID:2fce4529) - 01:42pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7238 of 7879) Bit of a readI think BC is getting closer. Pulled this from Beyond Main Street's Guide to MN parks. This os the only one that is in Ramsey Country that was listed with other state parks A bit a read but does it start to fit the clues?
Not ten minutes from the heart of Downtown Saint Paul, Battle Creek Regional Park offers visitors a scenic walk among verdant woodlands and rushing waters, and a chance to see deer, fox, hawks, owls, and migratory waterfowl. The Creek itself, which feeds into Pig's Eye Lake, was named for the Battle of Kaposai, a skirmish between the Ojibwe and Dakota tribes which took place in 1842.
There are two actual sections to the park divided by a stretch of suburban housing. They are linked by a hiking/cycling trail, and there are parking lots by both. The Southern portion runs along the bluffs that trace Battle Creek and offers access to mountain bike trails. The Northern portion is more forest, with a few ponds and small brooks. Wood Ducks and Mallards usually stop here to nest and have their young, and we've spotted numerous herons, egrets, and other waterfowl. The trails are dotted with Wild Geranium and Rue Anemone in the spring and early summer.
There is a limestone cave near the Southern entrance to the park that is closed to the public; Saint Paul authorities report that the caves had to be bricked off after some teenagers died in a cave-in.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 01:43pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7239 of 7879)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
but I DO like the East/West side for BC and that bouncing ball sculpture shown on an earlier posting. and the stony and sandy place. but other clues dont fit.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 01:44pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7241 of 7879)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
There's a golf course opening up this summer near BC, down on Century.
But that rough could also mean "rough terrain." As in stay away from rough grass and all. Stay away from hills and peeks. We've already been told in the rules ittiz not on a golf course...
And then you could have "ruff" as in what a dog says. Bit of a stretch, though... However, I don't know!
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 01:46pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7243 of 7879)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet.
"in the rough" doesn't necessarily have to be a golf term. It could just refer to rough terrain. But there is a golf course at BC anyway at Lower Afton and Century.
lisa612 - (PFID:2fce41b4) - 01:50pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7249 of 7879)
BC also had a natural burn last summer
during the burn ban could that be the fiery band??
Ian - (PFID:13d310) - 01:59pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7262 of 7879) ... backslogged quickly ...Lakely is a surname. any cemeteries near the "hot" parks ?
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 02:01pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7265 of 7879)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como.
Ian, Only Cemetary I saw was west of Phalen on Wheelock
My Dalliance - (PFID:13d2cf) - 02:05pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7270 of 7879)
There are 2 words in the clues so far that aren't really words: "yer" and "lakely". If you scramble them, you get "yay Keller."
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 02:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7309 of 7879)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet.
Well I'm making some progress. I found that there used to be a little town called Montville where Battle Creek is now, and the whole Battle Creek area used to be a suburb called McLean. No Lakely yet though.
East Side Digger - (PFID:2fce3e77) - 02:40pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7320 of 7880)
Top of the world ma
The mounds have been described as emerald green hills
MATTHEWDK - (PFID:2fce427a) - 04:16pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7393 of 7880)
Rough why does this have to do with a golf course? they used ROUGH in clue #6 2002 and there was no golf course near that park!!!!
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 04:21pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7399 of 7880)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
Matt... Rough could mean hilly, uneven ground. Maybe even a brambley scruffy area. Doesn't have to mean golf course.
Then, for a stretch, there's "Ruff!"
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 04:56pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7418 of 7880)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
The Mississippi River, known as "HA-HA WA-KPA" (river of the falls) to the Dakota, was important to the Kaposia people."
Think that could be the "wet drop"?
LIQUOR LADY - (PFID:13d334) - 04:58pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7421 of 7880)
All hail the Canadian Lesbians!
I couldnt come up with anything else besides wet Drop= tear-or tier.
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 05:00pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7422 of 7880)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet.
malarkey: Exaggerated or foolish talk, usually intended to deceive
Hmmm, so more stuff we shouldn't believe. So what are we supposed to get out of this clue then?
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 05:01pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7423 of 7880)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet.
I think wet drop sounds like a pretty good description of a water slide.
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 05:10pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7430 of 7880)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
Allison, that's what I've been thinking for days - about the water slide. But with them pointing to the IM part of the regional park in one clue/part of a clue, and then next they're pointing to the BC part of the regional park... I'm just trying to noodle which area of BCR ittiz.
If you're thinking the whole clue's malarkey, well... Then it could be all the IM clues are "crap" and ittiz in the other area of BC.
Which suits me fine! Because I can get dirty pants over on the east side, but am having trouble getting them dirty on the west side. Plus, the east side's less rough.
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 05:20pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7438 of 7880)
ok this is going to sound totally off the wall and I should keep my mouth shut BUT here goes...I don't even know how many clues I can get to fit except for the fact you guys keep coming up with the fact that they keep refering to pranks false advice and malarkey...What if the park was Daytons BLUFF Rec. Bluff=false advice and malarky and up the street is the Metro state U isn't it=monsterfish schoolin? ok thats my noodle for the night.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 05:23pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7441 of 7880)
Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited!
I don't think that's off the wall at all. While I was uncommitted to a park...and I'm still trying to keep an open mind...I thought perhaps that bluff thing was a good noodle. The sandstone bluffs both at IM and Cherokee...and the Daytons Bluff neighborhood at IM.
Allison Wonderland - (PFID:13d385) - 05:25pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7442 of 7880)
There's no such thing as a normal person. There are only people you don't know that well yet.
Battle Creek has bluffs also.
Ian - (PFID:13d310) - 05:22pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7439 of 7880) ever heard of these guys ?Steve
http://www.hometownsource.com/features/wintercarnival/
http://iam.jackswastedlife.org/
Ian - (PFID:13d310) - 05:34pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7460 of 7880)
Let’s first start by deciphering this clue. The first line is for all those hunters who have been concentrating their time at parks other than Battle Creek. Still up a Creek this is where to Peek.
though avoid the wet drop. There is a water park in Battle Creek and there is a 3 story water slide there. This line is telling us it is not near that part of the park. Monster fish are schoolin’ not far from the wintry crop. This line refers to the state fish hatchery located near the north west corner of the park. The wintry crop is the treasure (medallion) we all are seeking every winter.
Now, let’s back up to some of the other clues. East side, West side, take your honey for a ride, refers to the fact that part of Battle Creek park is in Washington County (East side) and part of the park is in Ramsey County (West side) obviously we need to be in Ramsey County so we want to go for a ride on the West side, most specifically Point Douglas road which has scenic overlooks. Stony and sandy place refers to the limestone cave entrance near the southern end of the park. Coincidently, on some older maps, like the one I use, this part of the park is referred to as Highwood. In yesterdays clue it was telling us not to aim low but high. Both Upper and Lower Afton road runs through the park, the Highwood area oddly enough is near Lower Afton road. Neither here nor there, perhaps? Also there is an archery range off Warner road near the fish hatchery. Take a stand with your fiery band refers to a band of Indians, remember the battle was between the Ojibwa and Dakota tribes. It may also apply to the bandstand where they have summer concerts. Don’t look in the rough I believe will mean it will be hidden more in an open space this year rather than in the rough forest. There is no golf course at Battle Creek to make that a golf reference. Also there is an area of the park just for dogs to run un-leashed, and to prattle and bark!
Ian - (PFID:13d310) - 05:40pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7468 of 7880)
1953 Again! Say it ain’t so!
This morning you were all given a very thorough synopsis of why we at Medallion Central had chosen Battle Creek as our park. You were also told there are very good arguments for Phalen and were told of all the hunters that would be there in addition to the hunters that would be at Battle Creek. I mean let’s face it; Phalen has a mural of monstrous fish along with a mural of bouncing beach balls, and their right next to the sandy beach, where of course, they harvested the winter crop of ice blocks for our famed palace. There is a golf course, baseball, a giant fire ring, and a hospital across the street. I mean, you’ve seen the clues, it all adds up! Who in their right mind would question that? Well those of us at Medallion Central of course!
After spending numerous hours driving back and forth between the two and having valid reasons for both parks; all of a sudden it Dawned on us!! And I mean that literally, considering the Medallion Central member who thought this one up. Her name; Dawn! Yep Dawn went out on the proverbial limb and said to me, “what if there are 2 medallions?” “Has that ever happened?”
At this point I turned three shades of white and the goose bumps that you typically get when you’re on to something immediately popped from my skin. “Yes” I said with a fiery! “1953!”
In 1953 there were 2 treasures hidden, the first in Cherokee park and the second at the State Fair. Now, haven’t we all been wondering in clue #3 what the prank is? All is Fair? Neither here nor there? Could this possibly mean there actually is a treasure hidden in both parks that we all seem to be going back and forth from? And as clue #6 suggests, shouldn’t we take a stand with our band of hunters and pick a park? And then of course be prepared for the defeat when it is found in the opposite park we are in, but really that will be false advice because there are two. Wouldn’t that be big if after 44 years the PP decided to hide two treasures as a prank and refer to the prank as “all is fair” and the only other time it was ever done, one of the two treasures was at the fair? Wow, that is way out there on a limb! But we thought it might be worth mentioning only because we sincerely believe all the clues fit very well for both parks. Or maybe it's at neither.... Maybe it‘s at Hidden falls!
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 05:41pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7469 of 7880)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
well, Dayton's bluff has a dance studio. Keller Park has an archery range.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 05:41pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7470 of 7880)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
Someone found the first treasure early so they advertised that they were going to hide a second. Not concurrently.
Med2K - (PFID:2fce42b9) - 05:47pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7477 of 7880)
Yeah, I think that was his way of telling us that his clues aren't going to be the kind you can pick apart easily. You're going to need to go deep into each word almost to get somewhere. And yes, they are HIS clues
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 05:52pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7482 of 7880)
I once caught a fish this Big! For those of you who like Battle CreekI'll let you all determine whether or not this is significant, or how it fits the clues. Personally, I prefer Phalen, because I think Battle Creek needs too many clue stretches. But, here are some things I found at BC Rec, and although I haven't slogged all these posts, I haven't seen them in any clue explanations yet.
On the North Side of BC Rec, across from the older ball fields, there is a home at 2045 Upper Afton that has a windmill in the yard. Not something the size of your average dairy farm, but a six foot or so decorative model. It is visible from the open area near the ball fields and older playground equip. Take a look for yourselves and see if it helps you make the BC Case.
Also, on the East and North sides of BC Rec, there are metal sculptures-and they each have a football, a soccer ball, a baseball and a bat. Much has been made of the bouncing balls on the wall of the Phalen beach house--seeing balls in art at another park makes the Phalen set less definitive for me.
Other things at BC rec--Ruth street is indeed the West boundary. Personally, I hate another Babe Ruth clue, so if the "plump pitcher" is the Babe, well, that's cheesey. But it fits.
There is a horseshoe pit by the playground equipment--and it does work for "go you look" if you like the "you" to be a "U".
Also, this section of BC will help you "avoid a wet drop"--it does not have the creek flowing through, nor the water park.
Food for thought--would like it if someone would play with this and possibly add to it.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 05:55pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7485 of 7880)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
Keller is the site of pow-wow festivals.
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 05:57pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7489 of 7881) Good noodling L@As Mommy. How do the rest of the clues fit?Terry, I haven't gotten ALL of them to fit but you can't always get them to fit until you actually get to the park but with the information I have here this is how I get DBR to fit the clues.
1. Its in an area park stop complaining and get out and look for it.
2. Its in a green something a Cap? or a doughnut?
3. Help me help me any time any day? The police station is just up the road.
4. Bouncing ball...tetherball pole there
5. ??
6. ??
7. Monster Fish up the road is Metro State U. Wintery crop was harvested from the east side. and downtown isn't that far either so could just be referencing that its close? dunno...little stretch on that part.
Plus all the references to prank, false advice, malarkey = Bluff
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 05:59pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7492 of 7881)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
Lisa: there is a dance studio at Daytons bluff--i find it odd that a park rec center would have a dance studio in it. must be the only one that does.
I think I'm in for the night. My oldest 2 convinced me to take them bowling. The heat of the hunt, and they want to go bowling?!?! Most any other year, it would have been out of the question, but this year I only have inklings for parks and definitely no ideas on where to zone in....
A friend found some interesting facts while doing some armchair noodling....from the 1997 city council minutes.....a resolution approving application for a Dance or Rental Hall License by Windmill Market Attractions Inc. A M, dba Windmill Market, 122 Wabasha Street South. (ID #85297)
Too funny!
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 06:02pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7495 of 7881)
I once caught a fish this Big!
queen malley--
Per Mr. Allison, there is the Shamrock Plaza on the upper end of BC Park--It doesn't help locate it at the rec, but it does help with the park. Personally, I don't think the Emerald Isle refers to a park, but rather the object the medallion is hidden in. So, I'm not working very hard to get that Emerald bit to fit a park right now.
The Archie and Jughead bit I think is nothing more than a tip of the cap to the folks at Archie Enterprises for featuring our fine City's idea in their comic.
Like I said, I can get more to work at Phalen, but the absence of an Archie or Emerald Isle references does not keep me out of BC
Like the noodling for Dayton's Bluff! Also near Arcade St (token) - albeit a not very well travelled part of it. Think it's kind of obscure, but I'm also feeling that that may be the kind of place we'll all be running in a day or two. There's probably some place out there that is just off the wall/out of the way enough it hasn't come to mind. I might not have *ever* made it to Conway, but it was in the 'hood, and we almost had no choice but to drive by, and *click*.....of course then the clues seemed to make better snese.
Rambling, sorry....
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 06:16pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7507 of 7881)
I once caught a fish this Big!
I like the East Shore of Phalen, actually.
Now,none of the following items are my ideas, but they have been on the board, so I don't think I'm giving away the store here. If these are yours, Sorry I can't attribute them--too much slogging to do it right:
1. Regarding the word "token" in the first line of clue 2--I like the tie in there to "Arcade" street. I like the idea of "Tilt" in today's clue being an arcade reference, too.
2. Terry V's references to Wheelock Whitney as to tilting at windmills is good enough to give me thoughts it could refer to Wheelock Parkway.
3. Some one mentioned that "coming defeat" from clue 6 line four meaning failin'=Phalen. I liked that.
As for me--
1. Last week when I saw the bouncing balls mural I thought it was an "aha" moment--much like I had at seeing the Sun-ray shopping center at Conway.
2. I like the mural of the fish at the Beach house at phalen too.
3. If you follow the bouncing balls, literally, it will lead you to a sandbar on the East Shore, that is also surrounded by large stones. I like this as a sandy stony place. You may not see it now that it has snowed, but there is a sandbar that is about 40 yards long by six feet wide, just before the path goes up the hill, and directly in front of one of those yellow life raft thingys. (for "help me" from clue three).
4. There are golf references, such as rough, green and believe it or not, I like "plump pitcher" to mean a pitching wedge, which is a plump golf club used when you are in a tight spot out of bounds. Which would keep you "at bay"--away from the golf course
This is free form noodling while watching football--I will refine it later, I suppose.
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 06:19pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7508 of 7881)
I once caught a fish this Big!
Oh, and I like wintry crop to be the ice palace blocks. Many have mentioned that crops are annual--I as an ex-farmer disagree. I plant corn, I harvest corn--that's a crop. Corn does not plant itself, therefore there is no guarantee of an annual anything.
downtown dave - (PFID:13d362) - 06:32pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7519 of 7881)
I once caught a fish this Big!
In clue number three, I haven't worked so much on the "clever device", as I have on the "false advice" part--that it can never be in Phalen (because it adjoins with Maplewood) again. I suppose the clever device is the one we are using now. Way back at the beginning of the hunt, as a joke, I put up the top five urban legends regarding the hunt, and they went something like this--
1. It can't be in Mounds, as they fear native American backlash if the mounds are damaged in the hunt.
2. Maplewood will sue the PP if the medallion is hidden in or Near Maplewood.
3. They don't hide the puck until clue #7
4. There is a group of spotters watching the hiding spot 24/7
5. I don't recall.
Anyhoo, these are all things I have heard, and some of these I have come to believe, as a result of hanging out in the Cooler--and some of these are almost mantras. The clever device--internet, could lead to false advice--not near Maplewood.
That's my take.
My Dalliance - (PFID:13d2cf) - 06:39pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7524 of 7881)
Hello everyone. Doin' some slogging while hubby watches football. I thought I'd chime in re a previous poster's question to DD about Clue 3 and "false advice." Personally, I'm looking at Clue 3 as giving the park name, scrambling the first words of each line to "It's Phalen Park." The rest of the clue is superfluous. Or, the "clever device" is the anagram.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 07:06pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7535 of 7881)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
the Gillette Children's hospital for crippled children was on the site of Phalen until 1977....
jusme - (PFID:2fce4281) - 07:09pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7537 of 7881)
THOUGH BE WARY TO AVOID A WET DROP
Lakely.....makes no sense at all, what if it really means lake ly, as in not by a lake ?? lying ?
green - (PFID:13d37c) - 07:13pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7539 of 7881)
My dream has always been to be a Clydesdale. Trouble izz I was born a donkey.
What if it means "a Kelly"? Yet another Irish reference
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 07:44pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7559 of 7882)
but not as new as I used to be
Hi Terry, that was me, Sorry I didn't see you. I have been out diggin all day here are my thoughts for the day.
Plump picture - see my avatar Could it be hiddenin a koolaid juice pouch??
Fish creek park is a no go. It is completly undeveloped just woods. no sign, no parking, no nothing. just a place on a map. I asked a guy who lives across from the park and he had nop idea it was a park just thought it was public land.
Highland does fit the clues.
bunch of malarkey tells me to look in a park with a lake will lead to a standstill time to try another park.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 08:52pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7590 of 7882)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
Lower Phalen Park has a new "rain garden" put in in August 2003. Maybe that is the avoid a wet drop refered in clue 7?
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:09pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7603 of 7882)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
My daughter and I ventured out tonight. Driving wasn't that good, but now that I hear the weather forecast I'm glad we went tonight. Drove out to Long Lake Regional Park in New Brighton, and I have to agree with whoever said that it's nice to discover a new park. It's a lovely park with a secluded swimming beach and a couple of real nice pavilions. I think we'll go back in the summer. We drove past Keller and saw one car. Went into Phalen and didn't see a whole lot of activity.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 09:12pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7605 of 7882)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
the Gillette Childrens hospital on the west side of Lake Phalen was razed in 1977, but one part was saved by the St. Paul Humanities society and it has been turned into a Humanities education center and includes hotel rooms to rent in it. Interesting weird looking sculpters inside. If nothing else, I am sure learning about parks in St Paul.
QueenMalley - (PFID:2fce4298) - 09:21pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7610 of 7882)
BrinG iT oN!! :-)
That Humanities building has small contorted indians, redcoats, and pilgrams "all taking aim at some invisable enemy"; the other sculpturs are "humanity trolls", disfigured men on the walls. weird!
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:26pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7617 of 7877)
but not as new as I used to be
Highland, in the woods
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:27pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7620 of 7877)
but not as new as I used to be
disc golf at highland
wolfpac - (PFID:2fce4004) - 09:27pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7621 of 7877)
This year we're gonna find it!
Phalen
JazJae - (PFID:2fce443c) - 09:27pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7622 of 7877)
I think it's at Palace!
far from suceeding- failing= Phalen
Lisa n Amy's mommy - (PFID:13d3c1) - 09:27pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7623 of 7877)
well I think we can safely say its not in a flower bed...
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 09:29pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7629 of 7877)
all alone on the road to perfection
They're reusing AW's mock hunt clues.
Far from succeedin'==Failin'==Phalen.
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7633 of 7877)
but not as new as I used to be
because you were diggin at Phalen you are far from succeding. Look at highland where there is disc golf
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 09:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7634 of 7877)
I was waiting for this clue........Frisbe Ave the street that leads into Ripley ave at Phalen
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:31pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7639 of 7877)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
Parts of Highland are dug up too, so you could get dirt on your pants.
Pay me - (PFID:4d9c80ee) - 09:31pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7640 of 7877)
I think the dirt on your pants you might have to sit to get it?
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:31pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7641 of 7877)
but not as new as I used to be
take a risk and go to a different park(than phalen or BC) -highland
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 09:33pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7645 of 7877)
www.finddru.com
Cat tails!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 09:33pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7646 of 7877)
all alone on the road to perfection
NO no. We threw the disc where it seems you're far from succeedin'aka
we threw the disc at Phalen
Frosti - (PFID:13d2d3) - 09:33pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7647 of 7877)
all alone on the road to perfection
I'd say flowers are unfit for weeding.
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 09:34pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7648 of 7877)
I can crack a code from a DVD on Mars that's 10 million miles away, but I can't find a little plastic puck in my neighborhood!
shoot, they can't mean the lakeside restoration area of phalen. The Park and recs would be sooo ticked off if people dug in there.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 09:35pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7651 of 7877)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
Some kind of mural of flowers that would be unfit for weeding because they're not really flowers?
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:38pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7656 of 7877)
but not as new as I used to be
flowers that are names are unfit for weeding like roseville, or the conservatory at como, or....the street names hyacinth by phalen, ivy, rose all flower names of streets , by phalen ,that you can't weed
Med2K - (PFID:2fce42b9) - 09:39pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7659 of 7877)
Plants that are unfit for weedin' Maybe the Ford Plant? Hidden falls maybe?
jusme - (PFID:2fce4281) - 09:41pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7662 of 7877)
THOUGH BE WARY TO AVOID A WET DROP
Blind man's Bluff.....
new daddy - (PFID:13d688) - 09:42pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7663 of 7877)
but not as new as I used to be
I haven't heard the BC contengiant come up with any ideas yet>>>
I guess ferndale st by BC would be a plant you can't weed
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 09:44pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7670 of 7877)
Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited!
Thanks Pay Me!
There are wild flower/prairie grass areas throughout Phalen in zone 4 for sure.
Pay me - (PFID:4d9c80ee) - 09:44pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7672 of 7877)
Are there any plastic plants or murals of plants?
Mystical_Muzik - (PFID:4d9c8082) - 09:48pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7680 of 7877)
It's gotta be by the old water fall... where the wild flower reserve is up on that hill.... that's the only place that it really describes!
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:08pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7709 of 7877)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
There's a flower called the Dancing Lady or something similar to that.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:12pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7714 of 7877)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
Dancing Lady: Perennial, bulb. Suitable only for a greenhouse. (Although I have a friend who grows them in her garden).
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 10:13pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7715 of 7877)
Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited!
There ya go.
Trees would also be plants unfit for weeding.
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 10:19pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7725 of 7877)
www.finddru.com
So on the map where it shows Keller on the top of Phalen......is that whole area including Keller considered Phalen?????
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 10:21pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7729 of 7877)
Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited!
Keller is separate from Phalen in that they are two different park systems. Keller is under the watchful eye of Ramsey County. Phalen under the City of St. Paul Parks and Rec.
I don't recall any great dividing line between the two.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:28pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7741 of 7878)
The "Disk" clue could also be referencing the Gateway bike path
KC0GRN - (PFID:2fce4285) - 10:29pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7742 of 7878)
I can crack a code from a DVD on Mars that's 10 million miles away, but I can't find a little plastic puck in my neighborhood!
how so jammin?
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:30pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7743 of 7878)
Because Disk is spelled like a computer disk not like a flying disc or frisbee
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 10:31pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7744 of 7878)
Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited!
The disk the hiders would be throwing would have to be the medallion I think.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:31pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7745 of 7878)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
Someone just mentioned the unless you are blind clue and linked it to Helen Keller. Sounds a tinge politically incorrect to me, but what do you think?
last hope - (PFID:2fce4529) - 10:32pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7750 of 7878) Phalen-BCThe blind reference. any one know of a school for the blind in St. PAul?
Now I'm confused. I though it could be a BC but now the flower reference and all the streets neat Phalen Rose, Jessamine, etc. I looks like Phalen.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:32pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7751 of 7878)
Throwing though, would be like a disc or discus........not a disk????
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 10:33pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7753 of 7878)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
There's a center of some sort for the blind on Robert St. on the west side. Across from the Red Cross offices.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 10:34pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7754 of 7878)
Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited!
Oh I see where you're going with that thought, Jammin.
I could throw a frisbee, a CD, a floppy disk, a medallion and they could be discs or disks depending.
TerryV - (PFID:13d300) - 10:40pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7764 of 7878)
Rehash Bash at the park where the medallion is found. Check out www.coolercrew.com for further information. All hunters and lurkers invited!
Looks like it will definately be outside at Phalen...as it's not at the Rec Center...or is it? Hmmmmmmmmmm
Nah...zone 4
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:40pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7765 of 7878)
The Gateway trail goes right along Frost Avenue......Disk!!! Robert Frost "The Windmill" HMMMMMMMM
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 10:42pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7767 of 7878)
Isnt that the part where Day street joins the lake too?
Splitrockspirit - (PFID:4d9c0e41) - 10:43pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7769 of 7878)
www.finddru.com
It is.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 11:04pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7816 of 7878)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
Someone in live chat is talking about a Random Park on Long Lake Road in Mounds View. Does one of the clues mention a view anywhere? Random from the cover of the Archie comic.
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 11:11pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7830 of 7878)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
Random Park. 5214 Long Lake Road. Mounds View 55112 Ramsey County
Oldtimer - (PFID:2fce46d2) - 11:13pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7833 of 7878)
Ice Palace 1941? Pauline, Mary, Barbara, Margaret and my mother and Aunt Pat
Random, because that's what Jughead is saying on the cover of the Archie comic, and something about view in a clue? Other than that, I don't know.
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 11:34pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7851 of 7878)
OK I brushed my teeth and the gas drew me back.......This is it now: Random Park is right by my Kids' high school in Mounds View....I have no idea why they would think it was there but I can sure drive by there on my way to work tomorrow. There are Ridge, Eastwood, Rainbow, Sunnyside sts.... Here is a link that shows you on the map approx where it is......scroll down to the map and it is #14....very small. HMMMMM>.......
http://www.ci.mounds-view.mn.us/ords/720.pdf
Jamminwityou - (PFID:4d9c86a9) - 11:42pm Feb 1, 2004 PST (# 7854 of 7878)
Irondale High School and Edgewood Middle school are right there and the Mermaid bowling alley and dinner place is down the street from edgewood...There are certainly ball fields of all types but none of the street names fit.........
OTS-On the search - (PFID:4d9c7a52) - 12:20am Feb 2, 2004 PST (# 7872 of 7878)
<-------- It's not here. Must be in como. Girls are happy to dance!DANCING LADY ORCHID-
WordNet Dictionary
Definition:[n]any orchid of the genus Oncidium: characterized by slender branching sprays of small yellow and brown flowers; often grown as houseplants.
Synonyms: butterfly orchid, butterfly plant, oncidium
See Also: genus Oncidium, orchid, orchidaceous plant
Ian - (PFID:13d310) - 01:33am Feb 2, 2004 PST (# 7878 of 7882)
Tilt at a windmill’s meaning is to prepare to engage in battle. A standstill is a dead end. A plump pitcher was Babe Ruth, and the poem Windmill was written by Longfellow. In Battle Creek park at the corner of Ruth St. and Longfellow Ave. the road dead ends at a parking lot at the elementary school. Just up the hill from the parking lot is an open and wooded area of the park.
Tilt for Phalen is referring to Arcade Street which runs along the West side of the park. Windmill at a standstill translates into Wheelock Parkway which runs along the South end of the park and includes the front entrance. Quite honestly I am not sure at this point what the Lakely reference is going to truly mean for either park, but it will come.
Good Luck; and gas up the rig, you may be doing some traveling trying to make sense of it all!
http://www.hometownsource.com/features/wintercarnival/blog.html
Well, that wouldn't be too bad for me :)
Just quick before I head out the door. FWIW, the "flower" street names don't run IN to Phalen. They're not too far south, but the closest ones would be in the Southern part of the park - south of Wheelock.
I'm thinking the clue is saying it's in a wooded area - grouping of trees.
Catch y'all later - drive careful!