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2007 Allison Wonderland Mock Hunt

Submitted by Clue Master on
Clue #1 
Signal ye the start of fun for ye old Mock Hunt has begun 
Thou shalt go out and seek thee the Crown Jewel 
Tis hidden in St. Paul, nestled before snow did fall 
And before Mother Nature decided to be so cruel 

This wintry hunt of 07 may not strike thee as pleasant 
But doth it not represent all that hunters stand for? 
Perhaps ye can satiate by dwelling instead on 08 
Or hunt like a Tiger and ye shall have riches galore. 

The first verse is mainly just there to introduce the hunt and tell you what you already know, that it is hidden in St. Paul and that we seem to have a lot of snow. The second verse makes reference to “08” which is meant not as 2008, but rather 1908 which is when Newell Park was founded. It was named after Stanford Newell and Stanford is both an anagram of “stand for” and the college that Tiger Woods went to. Tiger Woods of course comes from “Tiger” and “Woods” also hints at it being hidden in a tree. 

Clue #2 
Ten times ten, squared, a hundred then 
Is how many chains thou shalt need 
Core to thy hysteria, use them to cover the area 
Ruts in thy thinking are a danger indeed. 

A chain is a unit of length and 100 chains would still be a unit of length, but 100 square chains is a measure of area and is equal to 10 acres, the size of Newell Park. Also, if you look at the first word of each line- Ten Is Core Ruts, and say it fast, you get Tennis Courts, referring to the courts that are in the park. 

Clue #3 
Don't be defensive friend, tis all but a game in the end. 
Tis the goal to have wintry fun, not to prove ye be hardcore. 
Thou art well likely to howl, if thou likes to stay foul. 
But it's not how well ye boast, but how well ye keep score. 

This clue has various sports references meant to hint at the various sporting fields in the park which include tennis courts, a basketball court, a volleyball court, and a softball field. It also hints more specifically that you’d be in foul territory of the baseball field. Also, to “keep score”, since a score means 20, if you count every 20th letter through the first three lines, you get “Newell”. 

Clue #4 
Thy lord doth state, that ye best not wait. 
This clue shant lead thee easily to thy destination. 
Yet at the end of thy jaunt, thou shalt find what ye want 
Where 100 and 96 doth meet in conjunctive combination. 

No doubt this will be remembered as the “rich Shepard’s dirt” of this hunt. A quick look at a map will tell you that highways 100 and 96 do not meet and even if they did, it wouldn’t be anywhere near St. Paul. The next question I was hoping people would ask is “Do they meet anywhere else?” If you look “at the end” of each line, you’ll get “tntn”. If you look at a map then of TN for highways 100 and 96, you will see they meet in Fairview, TN. Fairview is a street that borders Newell. 

Clue #5 
Bid thee search high and low, over hills and under snow 
Search every cranny where the lowly worm sneaks. 
In the depths shall thee dwell, whilst the heights they do tell 
The right park in which ye shalt find the twin peaks. 

This clue had mostly general information. “Over hills” refers to the rolling hills of the park. “Cranny” refers to the diamond being hidden in a crevice”. “Where the lowly worm sneaks”, and “in the depths shall thee dwell”, refers to the crevice being on the ground at the very bottom of the tree. The heights that do tell is a vague reference to the smokestack that is visible from the park and the twin peaks refers specifically to the two picnic shelters with pyramid-like tops. 

Clue #6 
As thou moveth to and fro, inscribing arcs as ye go 
Near where a medallion was found in days of yore, 
Thou shalt surely know that the place to go 
Is to a park in which ye can find a door. 

If you are making an arc as you go back and forth, then odds are you are sitting on a swing. Back in 2000, the Winter Carnival Medallion was found near a swing in Newell. Finding a door simply refers to the building on the property and is meant to eliminate other small parks that have no buildings (or doors) at all. 

Clue #7 
To find thy secret stash, think of a ring of cash 
Though thou hath no need to try and step through it 
Envision it with thy mind, for though ye be not blind 
Thou shalt find thyself unable to see to chew it. 

Johnny Cash had a very famous song called “Burning Ring of Fire” which in turn should make you think of a fire ring. There is a fire ring in Newell, but the treasure is not really near there. As for “unable to see to chew it”, if you remove the “c” from “chew it”, that leads you to Hewitt, another street that touches Newell. 

Clue #8 
Tis surely a curious thing that Americans have no king. 
Who shall lead thee in the future is most anyone's guess. 
What a crazy condition when there's an open position. 
And yet thou must fill one more or perhaps fill one less. 

This clue is pretty clearly talking about Presidents for the first three lines. With that in mind, the last line makes you think of President Fillmore. But once you have that, then you have to think of one more and one less, the Presidents before and after Fillmore, Taylor and Pierce. Taylor and the Pierce Butler Route and two more streets that touch on Newell. 

Clue #9 
Under the national tree is where thou shalt be 
If thou wishest to recover thy Lord's lost treasure. 
Find thee a gnomon tall, seek where the shadow doth fall 
As if to say two hours past high noon were the measure 

The national tree is the Oak, of which there are many in Newell, including the tree the treasure is hidden under. A gnomon is the part of a sundial that casts a shadow. The obvious choice for a gnomon in Newell would be the smokestack. If you then look at a map of the area, and draw a line from the smokestack, through Newell Park such that the line would be in the same position as the hour hand would be at 2pm if it were a clock, that line would then go through almost exactly where the treasure is. 

Clue #10 

Play not the fool, look for the jewel 
In a park that fitteth this little rhyme. 
At the right plot, thou mightst not see a lot 
But ye shall be dry above the water and slime 

This clue is just saying to look for a park that rhymes with “jewel” such as, Oh, I don’t know, maybe Newell! And then you’ll want to look at the far end from the parking lot where you can’t really see the parking lot (or not a lot of it anyway). 

Clue #11 

No sign of the jewel? Then get thee to Newell 
Thou hast little time left to fritter. 
And if thou pauseth to eat, then find thee a seat 
Then search around as far as thou can throw thy litter. 

This clue is finally stating to go to Newell and that the treasure is within a litter toss’s distance from a picnic table. 

Clue #12 

Art thou having displeasure finding thy treasure? 
Then thou shalt mark fifty three paces southwest 
Starting on ground made holy by the find of John Davoli 
And there ye shall find the tree that hath been blessed. 

Thou shalt see most stark a split in the bark 
Or perchance more like a woodchucks first meal 
Down in the shadowy black, deep in a baseline crack 
Thou shalt bring forth the jewel to seal thy deal. 

This clue starts at the spot where the person who found the Winter Carnival Medallion in 2000 actually found it. It’s a bit west of the bench swing. The directions then lead you to a damaged tree and in a crevice at the very bottom of the tree, the diamond was tucked.



 

mrmnmikey

links Could also be referring to how many chain link fence sections?
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 9:13 AM Permalink
barefootguy

The word "core" seems to be popping up alot, I wonder what it means.
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 10:12 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

tis, Tis,ye ,Thou art ,thou, ye, ye ,=3rd clue

 thou shalt ,ye, thee=2nd clue

ye ,ye old, Thou shalt , thee, Tis, thee, doth, ye, satiate, ye= clue 1

are we back to pirates? Knights?
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 10:21 AM Permalink
ares

medieval times.
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 10:24 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Knights, in search of the Crown Jewel.
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 10:51 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

So no one has pinned down a park yet I take it?
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 10:52 AM Permalink
becksie

Not me... :frown:
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 12:59 PM Permalink
Terry

I haven't had the keyhole lock thing - yet.
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 1:35 PM Permalink
Wicked Nick

Harding High School has the Harding "Knights".... Eastview Park is kinda near there....

thats all I got....you can thank the cold medicine.

I'm going back to bed
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 2:13 PM Permalink
barefootguy

I have one park I really like, I'm going to take a peek at it after class today. Of course, I'm sure tonight's clue will send me somewhere else :sillygrin:
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 2:21 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Anyone home? Almost clue time.
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 3:46 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I see Kitch here. I think this will be his kind of clue.
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 3:48 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

We're up to 20 registered hunters now I believe. 5 of them are from my singles club. The release of this clue is the deadline for registering. If an unregistered person finds it, they get $100 and the other $100 I collected will go towards whoever has the next Mock Hunt (with the winner of this one getting to be the one to confer that title).
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 3:51 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Bring it on baby.

even though I really can't hunt this time around :frown:
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 3:51 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I do need to get going so maybe I'll release the clue a bit early tonight. If anyone wanted to register in the next 5 minutes, we'll work something out.
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 3:53 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Clue #4

Thy lord doth state, that ye best not wait.

This clue shant lead thee easily to thy destination.

Yet at the end of thy jaunt, thou shalt find what ye want

Where 100 and 96 doth meet in conjunctive combination.

And the previous clues:

Clue #3

DonÂ’t be defensive friend, tis all but a game in the end.

Tis the goal to have wintry fun, not to prove ye be hardcore.

Thou art well likely to howl, if thou likes to stay foul.

But itÂ’s not how well ye boast, but how well ye keep score.

Clue #2

Ten times ten, squared, a hundred then

Is how many chains thou shalt need

Core to thy hysteria, use them to cover the area

Ruts in thy thinking are a danger indeed.

Clue #1

Signal ye the start of fun for ye old Mock Hunt has begun

Thou shalt go out and seek thee the Crown Jewel

Tis hidden in St. Paul, nestled before snow did fall

And before Mother Nature decided to be so cruel

This wintry hunt of 07 may not strike thee as pleasant

But doth it not represent all that hunters stand for?

Perhaps ye can satiate by dwelling instead on 08

Or hunt like a Tiger and ye shall have riches galore.
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 3:54 PM Permalink
Terry

Looks like this will be a bit of a head scratcher. Thanks Allison.
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 4:02 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

fuzz logic

The satisfaction degree of a flexible plan is defined asthe conjunctive combination of the satisfaction degrees ofeach flexible operator and each flexible goal used in theplan. The conjunctive combination of two fuzzy relations,Ri⊗ Rj, is usually interpreted as the minimum membershipvalue assigned by either relation, although otherinterpretations of combination are possible (Smith & Shen1997). The quality of a plan is defined in terms of itssatisfaction degree combined with its length. Given twoplans with an equivalent satisfaction degree, the shorter isdeemed to be the better.

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con·junc·tion (kən-jŭngk'shən)

n.

The act of joining.

The state of being joined.

A joint or simultaneous occurrence; concurrence: the conjunction of historical and economic forces that created a depression.

One resulting from or embodying a union; a combination: “He is, in fact, a remarkable conjunction of talents” (Jerry Adler).

(Abbr. conj.) Grammar.

The part of speech that serves to connect words, phrases, clauses, or sentences.

Any of the words belonging to this part of speech, such as and, but, as, and because.

Astronomy. The position of two celestial bodies on the celestial sphere when they have the same celestial longitude.

Logic.

A compound proposition that has components joined by the word and or its symbol and is true only if both or all the components are true.

The relationship between the components of a conjunction.

[Middle English coniunccioun, from Old French conjunction, conjuncion, from Latin coniūnctiō, coniūnctiōn-, a joining, conjunction (in grammatical sense, translation of Greek sundesmos, binding together, conjunction), from coniūnctus, past participle of coniungere, to join. See conjoin.]

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conjunction

n

Definition: combination

Antonyms: detachment, disconnection, division, separation

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conjunction, in English, part of speech serving to connect words or constructions, e.g., and, but, and or. Most languages have connective particles similar to English conjunctions. In some languages words, phrases, or clauses may be connected by a suffix added to a word, e.g., -que and -ve in Latin.

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The noun conjunction has 6 meanings:

Meaning #1: the temporal property of two things happening at the same time

  Synonyms: concurrence, coincidence, co-occurrence

Meaning #2: the state of being joined together

  Synonyms: junction, conjugation, colligation

Meaning #3: an uninflected function word that serves to conjoin words or phrases or clauses or sentences

  Synonyms: conjunctive, connective

Meaning #4: the grammatical relation between linguistic units (words or phrases or clauses) that are connected by a conjunction

Meaning #5: (astronomy) apparent meeting or passing of two or more celestial bodies in the same degree of the zodiac

  Synonym: alignment

Meaning #6: something that joins or connects

  Synonym: junction

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Tue, 03/06/2007 - 4:55 PM Permalink
Terry

To the best of my knowledge, there are no 5 digit street addresses in St. Paul.
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 5:08 PM Permalink
Terry

Still scratching.
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 5:10 PM Permalink
zephyrus

possibly just trying to get 100 out there.

As in...10 times ten; squared-(is) a hundred then

I dunno...
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 5:52 PM Permalink
Eags

Ten times ten, squared, a hundred then

could be 10 x 10 = 100, 100 squared = 10,000, a hundred then = 10,100

or

could be 10 x 10squared (10x100) = 1000, a hundred then = 1,100

or

10 x 10, squared, a hundred then, simply being several ways of saying 100

The conjunctive combination - is there any Dempster street or other reference by that name that rings a bell?
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 6:03 PM Permalink
zephyrus

100 and 96? That is my school district, 196... have you been stalking me?!?! :eek:
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 6:05 PM Permalink
OT

Apropo of nothing, remember this?

Conjunction Junction, what's your function?

Hooking up words and phrases and clauses.

Conjunction Junction, how's that function?

I've got three favorite cars that get most of my job done.

Conjunction Junction, what's their function?

I've got and, but, and or.

They'll get you pretty far.

And!

That's an additive, like this and that.

But!

That's sort of the opposite,

not this but that.

And then there's Or. O-R,

when you have a choice like this or that

And, but, and or get you pretty far!

Conjunction Junction, what's your function?

Hooking up two boxcars and making 'em run right.

Milk and honey, bread and butter, peas and rice,

(Hey that's nice)

Dirty but happy, digging and scratchin'.

Losing your shoe and a button or two,

He's poor but honest, sad but true,

Boo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo!

Conjunction Junction, what's your function?

Hooking up two cars to one

When you say something like this choice

Either now or later

Or no choice:

Neither now nor ever.

(Hey that's clever)

Eat this or that, Grow thin or fat

Never mind, I wouldn't do that

I'm fat enough now!

Conjunction Junction, what's your function?

Hookin' up phrases and clauses that balance, like:

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

He cut loose the sandbags,

but the balloon wouldn't go any higher.

Let's go up to the mountains or down to the seas.

You should always say Thank you,

Or at least say Please!

Conjunction Junction, what's your function?

Hookin'-up words and phrases and clauses

in complex sentences like:

"In the mornings, when I am usually wide awake, I love to take a walk through the gardens and down by the lake, where I often see a duck and a drake, and I wonder as I walk by what they would say if they could speak, although I know that's an absurd thought."

Conjunction Junction, what's your function?

Hookin'-up cars and making them function.

Conjunction Junction, how's that function?

I like tying up words and phrases and clauses.

Conjunction Junction, watch that function!

I'm going to get you there if you're very careful.

Conjunction Junction, what's your function?

I'm going to get you there if you're very careful.





Carry on. :cool:
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 6:15 PM Permalink
Terry

Eags - I wish you could be here hunting.
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 6:59 PM Permalink
Eags

Terry, I do too!
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 7:01 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I'll give you a hint and let you know that this one is not a simple little puzzle. But I figured if people weren't inclined to dig yet, they could spend time delving into this clue.
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 7:11 PM Permalink
Terry

I have googled, mapquested, dictionaried, scratched and noodled...and then attempted to make it sensible with the other clues.
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 7:20 PM Permalink
Terry

So I'm glad we were to delve into this one. :pbpt:
Tue, 03/06/2007 - 7:21 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Why am I thinking Binary?
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 6:10 AM Permalink
Posen

prolly cause you saw the 96?!?!?!? :eek:
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 7:56 AM Permalink
Eags

Hiways or roads that are, or were, 100 and 96? Do they intersect?
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 8:15 AM Permalink
Terry

From Wikipedia

Minnesota State Highway 96 is a highway which runs from U.S. Highway 61 in White Bear Lake, Minnesota to Minnesota State Highway 95 in Stillwater, Minnesota. Prior to 1994, Highway 96 extended west several miles to just past Interstate 35W in Arden Hills—this portion was once part of the Highway 100 Beltway. This route is now known as Ramsey County Road 96.
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 8:23 AM Permalink
barefootguy

That's right by where I live! :goofy:
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 8:40 AM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Just remember, the diamond is hidden in St. Paul.
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 8:43 AM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

Just remember, the diamond is hidden in St. Paul.

yeah, i wasted a half hour scouring 96, then looked at the rules.
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 9:17 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

Its really not fair for you to give any kinds of hints. Not all people are here to see them at the same time, and some only get clues in the mail etc.

You should not say anything exept the clues IMHO

If people are on a wild goose chase, too bad.
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 11:31 AM Permalink
Mr. Med Hunter

I agree with 3m!

Unless of course, I'm the only one here and you want to tell me where the dang thing is! :smile:
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 11:43 AM Permalink
Terry

FWIW and IMHO, he hasn't been giving hints. The last clue clearly states it's not easily going to lead you to the prize. Restating that in a different way really only verifies what was already said. My first reaction to the clue is that it would take some digging to figure it out.

And a reminder about the rules is even done at the PP. We already know it's in St. Paul and not outside the city limits.
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 11:49 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Most of the time he's just F-in with us anyway. I've never found an AW 'hint' to ever hint at anything. He knows it and likes to mess with us. I think it's a hinder more than a help.

But either way, some could look at it as not fair if they're not privy to it.
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 11:58 AM Permalink
KITCH

agree with CM
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 12:09 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Remember the first rule of the Mock Hunt. Never trust anything the cluewriter tells you outside of the clues.
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 12:09 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Enough from the

 :wink: :smile:
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 12:13 PM Permalink
barefootguy

I'm going out to look now, probably in the wrong place. :pbpt:
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 1:14 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

wheres that rule posted?

I must have missed that too.
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 1:37 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I say it every year. It's only a rule in the same sense that Murphy's Law is actually a law.
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 1:51 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

heh.
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 2:05 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Speaking of breaking rules, I forgot I had made an appointment today for 5:45, and I won't likely be at a computer again until later tonight, so I'll probably have to release the clue early, like around 5:15. I don't think it's something that will make anyone bolt out the door as soon as they see it, so it shouldn't be too much of an issue if some people don't see it until 6:00.
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 2:41 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Clue #5

Bid thee search high and low, over hills and under snow

Search every cranny where the lowly worm sneaks.

In the depths shall thee dwell, whilst the heights they do tell

The right park in which ye shalt find the twin peaks.

And the previous clues:

Clue #4

Thy lord doth state, that ye best not wait.

This clue shant lead thee easily to thy destination.

Yet at the end of thy jaunt, thou shalt find what ye want

Where 100 and 96 doth meet in conjunctive combination.

Clue #3

Don't be defensive friend, tis all but a game in the end.

Tis the goal to have wintry fun, not to prove ye be hardcore.

Thou art well likely to howl, if thou likes to stay foul.

But it's not how well ye boast, but how well ye keep score.

Clue #2

Ten times ten, squared, a hundred then

Is how many chains thou shalt need

Core to thy hysteria, use them to cover the area

Ruts in thy thinking are a danger indeed.

Clue #1

Signal ye the start of fun for ye old Mock Hunt has begun

Thou shalt go out and seek thee the Crown Jewel

Tis hidden in St. Paul, nestled before snow did fall

And before Mother Nature decided to be so cruel

This wintry hunt of 07 may not strike thee as pleasant

But doth it not represent all that hunters stand for?

Perhaps ye can satiate by dwelling instead on 08

Or hunt like a Tiger and ye shall have riches galore.
Wed, 03/07/2007 - 3:13 PM Permalink