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2007 Allison Wonderland Mock Hunt

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Clue #1 
Signal ye the start of fun for ye old Mock Hunt has begun 
Thou shalt go out and seek thee the Crown Jewel 
Tis hidden in St. Paul, nestled before snow did fall 
And before Mother Nature decided to be so cruel 

This wintry hunt of 07 may not strike thee as pleasant 
But doth it not represent all that hunters stand for? 
Perhaps ye can satiate by dwelling instead on 08 
Or hunt like a Tiger and ye shall have riches galore. 

The first verse is mainly just there to introduce the hunt and tell you what you already know, that it is hidden in St. Paul and that we seem to have a lot of snow. The second verse makes reference to “08” which is meant not as 2008, but rather 1908 which is when Newell Park was founded. It was named after Stanford Newell and Stanford is both an anagram of “stand for” and the college that Tiger Woods went to. Tiger Woods of course comes from “Tiger” and “Woods” also hints at it being hidden in a tree. 

Clue #2 
Ten times ten, squared, a hundred then 
Is how many chains thou shalt need 
Core to thy hysteria, use them to cover the area 
Ruts in thy thinking are a danger indeed. 

A chain is a unit of length and 100 chains would still be a unit of length, but 100 square chains is a measure of area and is equal to 10 acres, the size of Newell Park. Also, if you look at the first word of each line- Ten Is Core Ruts, and say it fast, you get Tennis Courts, referring to the courts that are in the park. 

Clue #3 
Don't be defensive friend, tis all but a game in the end. 
Tis the goal to have wintry fun, not to prove ye be hardcore. 
Thou art well likely to howl, if thou likes to stay foul. 
But it's not how well ye boast, but how well ye keep score. 

This clue has various sports references meant to hint at the various sporting fields in the park which include tennis courts, a basketball court, a volleyball court, and a softball field. It also hints more specifically that you’d be in foul territory of the baseball field. Also, to “keep score”, since a score means 20, if you count every 20th letter through the first three lines, you get “Newell”. 

Clue #4 
Thy lord doth state, that ye best not wait. 
This clue shant lead thee easily to thy destination. 
Yet at the end of thy jaunt, thou shalt find what ye want 
Where 100 and 96 doth meet in conjunctive combination. 

No doubt this will be remembered as the “rich Shepard’s dirt” of this hunt. A quick look at a map will tell you that highways 100 and 96 do not meet and even if they did, it wouldn’t be anywhere near St. Paul. The next question I was hoping people would ask is “Do they meet anywhere else?” If you look “at the end” of each line, you’ll get “tntn”. If you look at a map then of TN for highways 100 and 96, you will see they meet in Fairview, TN. Fairview is a street that borders Newell. 

Clue #5 
Bid thee search high and low, over hills and under snow 
Search every cranny where the lowly worm sneaks. 
In the depths shall thee dwell, whilst the heights they do tell 
The right park in which ye shalt find the twin peaks. 

This clue had mostly general information. “Over hills” refers to the rolling hills of the park. “Cranny” refers to the diamond being hidden in a crevice”. “Where the lowly worm sneaks”, and “in the depths shall thee dwell”, refers to the crevice being on the ground at the very bottom of the tree. The heights that do tell is a vague reference to the smokestack that is visible from the park and the twin peaks refers specifically to the two picnic shelters with pyramid-like tops. 

Clue #6 
As thou moveth to and fro, inscribing arcs as ye go 
Near where a medallion was found in days of yore, 
Thou shalt surely know that the place to go 
Is to a park in which ye can find a door. 

If you are making an arc as you go back and forth, then odds are you are sitting on a swing. Back in 2000, the Winter Carnival Medallion was found near a swing in Newell. Finding a door simply refers to the building on the property and is meant to eliminate other small parks that have no buildings (or doors) at all. 

Clue #7 
To find thy secret stash, think of a ring of cash 
Though thou hath no need to try and step through it 
Envision it with thy mind, for though ye be not blind 
Thou shalt find thyself unable to see to chew it. 

Johnny Cash had a very famous song called “Burning Ring of Fire” which in turn should make you think of a fire ring. There is a fire ring in Newell, but the treasure is not really near there. As for “unable to see to chew it”, if you remove the “c” from “chew it”, that leads you to Hewitt, another street that touches Newell. 

Clue #8 
Tis surely a curious thing that Americans have no king. 
Who shall lead thee in the future is most anyone's guess. 
What a crazy condition when there's an open position. 
And yet thou must fill one more or perhaps fill one less. 

This clue is pretty clearly talking about Presidents for the first three lines. With that in mind, the last line makes you think of President Fillmore. But once you have that, then you have to think of one more and one less, the Presidents before and after Fillmore, Taylor and Pierce. Taylor and the Pierce Butler Route and two more streets that touch on Newell. 

Clue #9 
Under the national tree is where thou shalt be 
If thou wishest to recover thy Lord's lost treasure. 
Find thee a gnomon tall, seek where the shadow doth fall 
As if to say two hours past high noon were the measure 

The national tree is the Oak, of which there are many in Newell, including the tree the treasure is hidden under. A gnomon is the part of a sundial that casts a shadow. The obvious choice for a gnomon in Newell would be the smokestack. If you then look at a map of the area, and draw a line from the smokestack, through Newell Park such that the line would be in the same position as the hour hand would be at 2pm if it were a clock, that line would then go through almost exactly where the treasure is. 

Clue #10 

Play not the fool, look for the jewel 
In a park that fitteth this little rhyme. 
At the right plot, thou mightst not see a lot 
But ye shall be dry above the water and slime 

This clue is just saying to look for a park that rhymes with “jewel” such as, Oh, I don’t know, maybe Newell! And then you’ll want to look at the far end from the parking lot where you can’t really see the parking lot (or not a lot of it anyway). 

Clue #11 

No sign of the jewel? Then get thee to Newell 
Thou hast little time left to fritter. 
And if thou pauseth to eat, then find thee a seat 
Then search around as far as thou can throw thy litter. 

This clue is finally stating to go to Newell and that the treasure is within a litter toss’s distance from a picnic table. 

Clue #12 

Art thou having displeasure finding thy treasure? 
Then thou shalt mark fifty three paces southwest 
Starting on ground made holy by the find of John Davoli 
And there ye shall find the tree that hath been blessed. 

Thou shalt see most stark a split in the bark 
Or perchance more like a woodchucks first meal 
Down in the shadowy black, deep in a baseline crack 
Thou shalt bring forth the jewel to seal thy deal. 

This clue starts at the spot where the person who found the Winter Carnival Medallion in 2000 actually found it. It’s a bit west of the bench swing. The directions then lead you to a damaged tree and in a crevice at the very bottom of the tree, the diamond was tucked.



 

mrmnmikey

maybe the copenhagen tin is what we should find, with the directions to the blue diamond?
Fri, 03/09/2007 - 6:02 PM Permalink
becksie

or Skoal
Fri, 03/09/2007 - 6:03 PM Permalink
Terry

Or maybe it's in an old spitoon.
Fri, 03/09/2007 - 6:04 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

Lets just hope its not this ring of fire. (warning..Not hunt realated)

 Ring Of Fire
Fri, 03/09/2007 - 6:04 PM Permalink
Terry

I saw that story.

Reminded me of the local suspected arsonist up here who ended up setting his pants on fire, ending up in the hospital with severely burned genitals.
Fri, 03/09/2007 - 6:07 PM Permalink
Terry

Here's another random thought....

A ring of cash - if it were real cash - would be green.

Grass is green - but wouldn't be viewable now because of the snow.
Fri, 03/09/2007 - 6:10 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

sounds like good payback.

I took out the common letters on 100 and 96 and anngramed them and got

HIDED TINY URN SOX
Fri, 03/09/2007 - 6:11 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

nevermind, that made no sense...
Fri, 03/09/2007 - 6:13 PM Permalink
Terry

The tiny urn could be the spittoon! :goofy:

Inks and I are heading out to do some star gazing. It's clear and the sky is full of twinkly diamonds.

Maybe I'll have some brainstorm once I clear my mind.

bbiab
Fri, 03/09/2007 - 6:15 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I think thats what I was thinkin.

Have fun!
Fri, 03/09/2007 - 6:16 PM Permalink
jakeinge

HEH
Fri, 03/09/2007 - 6:27 PM Permalink
Terry

Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus - Cite This Source

Main Entry: cash

Part of Speech: noun

Definition: money

Synonyms: banknote, bread*, buck*, bullion, cabbage*, chicken feed*, coin, coinage, currency, dinero*, dough*, funds, green stuff*, investment, legal tender, lot, mazuma, note, payment, pledge, principal, ready assets, refund, remuneration, reserve, resources, riches, savings, scratch*, security, skins*, stock, supply, treasure, wampum*, wherewithal

Antonyms: credit, deferred payment

Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.3.1)

Copyright © 2007 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.
Fri, 03/09/2007 - 7:28 PM Permalink
Terry

Just to move this out of my head....a ring of dough (green stuff)....

A flipping green donut!
Fri, 03/09/2007 - 7:29 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

HA!
Fri, 03/09/2007 - 7:55 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Looks like the weather today should make for a great day to be outside hunting. I can't believe how much snow disappeared yesterday. Geez, a few more clues and you won't have to dig through the snow at all at this rate. I had like a foot and a half of snow on my balcony a few days ago and it's all gone now!

So I wonder where people are looking? It doesn't sound like too many people have really settled on a park, if indeed anyone has. Although a couple of people seem to sound like they believe they're onto something. Only about 9 hours to the next clue.
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 6:54 AM Permalink
Neecie

I have my mind set on a park that hasn't been mentioned yet. I will check it out this morning.
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 7:30 AM Permalink
KITCH

inscribing arcs---instead of "an arch like shape?" how about and "electrical discharge??
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 9:05 AM Permalink
KITCH

...i'm sticking with what i know...
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 9:07 AM Permalink
Clue Master

I'm sticking with what Kitch knows too :eyeroll: :chagrin: :smile:
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 9:48 AM Permalink
KITCH

I'm not all that complicated....

I'm thinking simple...

arc's = mounds

...

only thing that has me concerned is 100 chains=10 acres.
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 9:52 AM Permalink
Terry

But if one squares those 10 acres, you would have 100 acres. That's what brought me to thinking Indian Mounds in the first place.

And I'm thinking it might very well be in that triangle. That's where a planting of those prairie grasses and wild flowers is located.

And as I was stargazing last night, I remembered the Crown Jewel had been hidden prior to the snow.
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 9:57 AM Permalink
me2

nice seeing kitch out in the park thisafternoon :wink: - I was out there alone for most of the time

I love this Ring of Fire clue by Johnny Cash
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 12:17 PM Permalink
me2

Bid thee search high and low

auction- bidding - ebay

a door --- isadore- adore

an entrance

an arched door?

a door company

an actual door in the park or in someones yard

lowly worm sneaks - apples - dirt - roots of a tree- its low to the ground

its the 100 and 96 that is getting me the most- maybe thats what its in or a gps coord?
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 12:35 PM Permalink
me2

unfortunately Im making this fit my park :frown:

Clue #3

DonÂ’t be defensive friend, tis all but a game in the end.

Tis the goal to have wintry fun, not to prove ye be hardcore.

Thou art well likely to howl, if thou likes to stay foul.

But itÂ’s not how well ye boast, but how well ye keep score.


defense - basketball - football - hockey - soccor

goal ?? not baseball or basketball -

a goal would be in soccor- hockey or football

foul - baseball - stay near the foul line?

baseball AND timberwolves- basketball

score can be any game but probably a score board of somesort - there is no scoreboard in my park :frown:
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 12:54 PM Permalink
me2

so what park has football and a fire ring (s)?

:frown:

I kinda see where you may be going with that though
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 1:08 PM Permalink
me2

core

noun

A point of origin from which ideas or influences, for example, originate: bottom, center, focus, heart, hub, quick, root. See start/end.

The most central and material part: essence, gist, heart, kernel, marrow, meat, nub, pith, quintessence, root, soul, spirit, stuff, substance. Law gravamen. See be.
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 1:21 PM Permalink
me2

~ good luck out there everyone

anyone got any ideas on the door?

maybe the Doors? an album cover?

conjuctive combination -

I don't quite understand this- Im good with the basics ---

Logical conjunction is often used for bitwise operations. Examples:

0 and 0 = 0

0 and 1 = 0

1 and 0 = 0

1 and 1 = 1

1100 and 1010 = 1000
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 1:35 PM Permalink
CerealKiller

I am thinking I am going back over to a friends in hudson agin today so I think I will stop at mounds on my way Any one been out there diggin??? I like to try and make it fit therer now that I have a good exp. in that park!! insted of all my bad ones!!!
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 1:48 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

saw lots of twin peaks today and a lot of slush. Looks like there 2 inches of snow on top of 4 inches of slush/water.

Better find the diamond so you can pay me KC! :wink:
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 2:50 PM Permalink
zephyrus

saw lots of twin peaks today and a lot of slush.

People out at the beach already? :pbpt:
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 2:52 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

think of a ring of cash ...

marrige ring-June Carter Cash?

voice rings-baritone?

money in a ring shape-coin?

ring on finger-Diamond?

or just plain fire ring with a can of chewing tobacco with paper inside giving away the diamonds location?
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 2:58 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Ok fair warning, this will sound like kind of an oddball clue tonight, but even my non-hunter girlfriend was able to figure it out.
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 4:00 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Yeah, but she's smart... How is that gonna help me? :pbpt:
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 4:01 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Clue #8

Tis surely a curious thing that Americans have no king.

Who shall lead thee in the future is most anyoneÂ’s guess.

What a crazy condition when thereÂ’s an open position.

And yet thou must fill one more or perhaps fill one less.

And the previous clues:

Clue #7

To find thy secret stash, think of a ring of cash

Though thou hath no need to try and step through it

Envision it with thy mind, for though ye be not blind

Thou shalt find thyself unable to see to chew it.

Clue #6

As thou moveth to and fro, inscribing arcs as ye go

Near where a medallion was found in days of yore,

Thou shalt surely know that the place to go

Is to a park in which ye can find a door.

Clue #5

Bid thee search high and low, over hills and under snow

Search every cranny where the lowly worm sneaks.

In the depths shall thee dwell, whilst the heights they do tell

The right park in which ye shalt find the twin peaks.

Clue #4

Thy lord doth state, that ye best not wait.

This clue shant lead thee easily to thy destination.

Yet at the end of thy jaunt, thou shalt find what ye want

Where 100 and 96 doth meet in conjunctive combination.

Clue #3

Don't be defensive friend, tis all but a game in the end.

Tis the goal to have wintry fun, not to prove ye be hardcore.

Thou art well likely to howl, if thou likes to stay foul.

But it's not how well ye boast, but how well ye keep score.

Clue #2

Ten times ten, squared, a hundred then

Is how many chains thou shalt need

Core to thy hysteria, use them to cover the area

Ruts in thy thinking are a danger indeed.

Clue #1

Signal ye the start of fun for ye old Mock Hunt has begun

Thou shalt go out and seek thee the Crown Jewel

Tis hidden in St. Paul, nestled before snow did fall

And before Mother Nature decided to be so cruel

This wintry hunt of 07 may not strike thee as pleasant

But doth it not represent all that hunters stand for?

Perhaps ye can satiate by dwelling instead on 08

Or hunt like a Tiger and ye shall have riches galore.
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 4:02 PM Permalink
Terry

So the first thing that comes to my mind is Fillmore and Phyllis.

Now onto other noodling.
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 4:05 PM Permalink
Terry

Curious George?
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 4:11 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I got the park now.. :smile:
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 4:24 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

Terry you got mail...
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 4:28 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I'm heading out to the right park now.
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 4:28 PM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

good luck
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 4:34 PM Permalink
Terry

Good luck Mikey!
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 4:45 PM Permalink
Neecie

Clue #8 continues to point me to the same park. Couldn't make it out there today due to family obligations. If it's not found, I'll be out early in the morning.

Good luck to all out this evening!
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 4:49 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I'm back with no luck :frown:

Might be the right place, but some things don't fit and others do. Didn't see anybody else. Maybe I'm wrong?
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 7:04 PM Permalink
Terry

Mikey - you have mail.
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 7:06 PM Permalink
Wicked Nick

I havent even been out....

to tell you the truth, i've been sick in bed all week, and havent really looked at the clues that good...

starting to do it now, and its givin me a headache...

after a long day of new job, work orientation... i honestly have no clue...

I'd like to go look, but have no idea where to even start.
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 7:27 PM Permalink
Terry

What a crazy condition when thereÂ’s an open position.

Presidential elections are actually finalized in this country by the Electoral College.

Don't know what that means in the whole scheme of things, because College Park was never the home of the medallion, but it is a thought to throw into the mix.

The closest the medallion was to College Park is Langford.
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 9:13 PM Permalink
barefootguy

I think you mean Langford.
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 9:33 PM Permalink
leelabell

If it is at College or Langford or Triangle Park/Monkey Island, I am going to be very crabby that I've been out of town for much of this hunt and am leaving again tomorrow.

I am just catching up with the clues and haven't given them much thought except for this: Lowly Worm is a character in Richard Scarry books (for those that don't know, they are favorites among pre-school and early-school-aged kids). I think he rides around in an apple or something.

Good luck.
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 9:42 PM Permalink
Terry

Thanks. I changed it. :pbpt:
Sat, 03/10/2007 - 9:45 PM Permalink