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2007 St. Paul Winter Carnival Medallion -ACT II

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2007 Treasure Hunt II 

Rehash Bash

Allison Wonderland\'s Mason Lodge 
1044 Front Avenue 
Starting at Noon on Sunday 

Map and directions 

Medallion Hotline 651-228-5547

Noodle Recap Folder HERE 

Rehash discussion folder HERE 

Nightly Pre-Clue Get-Together 

354 Wabasha St N
Saint Paul, MN 55102-1418, US&cid=lfmaplink2&name=&dtype=s\">Map of 354 Wabasha St N
Saint Paul, MN 55102-1418, US 

Matty B\'s is the home of the Cooler Crew. We\'ve got a party going on every evening from 8 until the clue is released. Sunday night, if the hunt goes that long, the bar will be open but food will not be available. 

Recent Clues: 
 


 

Clue #1 Congrats to the finder, to all a reminder 
To hunt hard from first to last clues 
Medallion I is history. Now a new mystery 
Begins -- strap on your hunting shoes 

To some its demented, for all unprecedented 
But hunters’ thirst must be quenched 
Tell sister and brother we’ve hidden another 
In a park where a body can be benched 

Our 2nd prize? Don’t laugh -- 10-thou cut in half 
So get out there even if it’s snowy 
And as a special bonus -- some might say an onus -- 
A meal with our own Clueless Joey 

Good hunting to you, let this be the first clue 
Think of a woodsy retreat 
It won’t be so hard if you channel the bard 
You’ll get warm and smell pretty sweet
Clue #2 If you\'re thinking big you\'re sure to dig 
Near flora with growing pain 
Winter or summer is never a bummer 
A menagerie of fun wild or tame
Clue #3 Success on the third clue will never do 
We had to stash a second 
Round you go if you seek to know 
Where swatters of orbs are beckoned
Clue #4: A walk in the park can be a lark 
If cell phones are left at home 
Heed the siren of your desirin\' 
And do not revolt against this poem
Clue #5 Over hill and dale hit the trail 
With a handy locating device 
Fulfill your wishes like loaves and fishes 
And put your victory on ice
Clue #6 A famous singer and a diamond dinger 
Might put you oh so close to the spot 
With the whites of your eyes you should look for the prize 
Within this convenient plot
Clue #7 Don\'t turn up your noses at the city of roses 
The home of the park that you seek 
It\'s just north of town so come on down 
Our hunt is not for the meek
Clue #8 Don\'t go mental just head for Central 
Lexington Avenue will show you the way 
Your spirits won\'t sag when you see the big flag 
Into the trees you want to stray



 

queenmalley

Thanks Otis. Wow, they got outta town quick w/ that medallian.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:17 PM Permalink
KT

!!!@#%&***@??:&#@@@

Oh, so- No No to Como?
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:17 PM Permalink
OT

That pretty much ends the hunt for me. I know nothing about the park and it's kind of late to join the party.

I had fun pretending it was at Indian Mounds though! :goofy:

Got out several times and saw a part of the park I didn't even know about before.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:20 PM Permalink
Terry

I guess so KT. Bummer. We had the clues fitting so well there.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:20 PM Permalink
Terry

OT - It's a big park - but lots of parking. Lots of ball fields and picnic shelters.

Unfortunately, running out there on my lunch time is not worth the gas spent.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:22 PM Permalink
Wicked Nick

I said HELL NO to como, all along... I'm glad.

I just wish I was able to get out RIGHT NOW and look!
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:22 PM Permalink
OT

Tomorrow I was going to go and hunt just down the sight line from where my "spotter" was at today. :pbpt:

:frown:
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:22 PM Permalink
Terry

We thought we had a spotter today at Como too. Sat there forever in his car reading a paper until one hunter got into his car and then he followed him. It was weird.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:23 PM Permalink
OT

One of my sons has been out there a couple of times. I'll hunt by proxy. :smile:
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:24 PM Permalink
Terry

We were out there for a little bit on Sunday...and then went back to Como. I know where the parking is...because we don't have a proxy. :chagrin:
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:25 PM Permalink
OT

So anyway, does anyone else think of what they're going to say during the interview at the PP when they find it? Ha!

Or dress appropriately so that you have something nice on when you have to take off your heavy clothes and put on the sweatshirt they give you?

I even planned on who was going to ride in the shopping cart with me for the parade. :smile:
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:26 PM Permalink
Art Vandelay

I have had Central since clue 2 and nobody believed me! Lilman, I want an apology! :smile: You all should have heard him call me crazy when I told him I spent all Friday afternoon digging. Well, look who's got the front seat to the Mexican Hat Dance now!! Just kidding. Seriously, I just felt that the clues didn't fit any other park as well. It is sad that I have no idea where in the park to look though. SCD's everyone.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:29 PM Permalink
Terry

I figured we'd put the whole Crew in the shopping cart!
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:30 PM Permalink
KOP

does anyone have a map of central? sounds like thats where there going just talked to kop i would like to know something about that park myself
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:30 PM Permalink
OT

Well see, that was the problem! There's too many. So I was going to ride with my grandbabies! :pbpt:
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:32 PM Permalink
OT

How come it says, "come on down"??

Shouldn't it be up?
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:35 PM Permalink
Terry

I know there's some maps online through Roseville Parks and Rec. Google Earth and some other sites have good ways of getting a good arial view.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:37 PM Permalink
Terry

Up north would be more directionally correct - but maybe it's like the Price is Right...Come on down!

Speaking of down...I'm going to hit the sheets and figure out how I'm going to get out there tomorrow or if I'll have to wait till evening.

Goodnight, SCDs and happy, safe hunting!
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:38 PM Permalink
OT

Someone posted a really nice aerial at PP today, but I'd have no idea how to find it.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:39 PM Permalink
Eags

Probably some HR guy spying on a "sick" employee?

Or a Private Investigator who is going to have some very good news to give to a suspicious wife - her husband is NOT having an affair - he's hunting the medallion!
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:39 PM Permalink
OT

Night Terry!
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:39 PM Permalink
KOP

thanks terry
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:40 PM Permalink
Eags

I'll bet ESD could draw a pic of that!
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:40 PM Permalink
ThoseMedallingKids

Well looks like I was wrong. Time to look at these clues from a new perspective. Anyways, to help others who aren't as familiar with the park, I'm going to post the clues and explanations from my mock hunt that I did, which was in Central.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:41 PM Permalink
Terry

Eags - Great idea!

Grandbabies in a shopping cart is a cute idea, OT.

Goodnight x 2!
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:41 PM Permalink
OT

Great idea Kids!
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:41 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

I believed Central was a possibility since early on and was sold on it since Clue 4. So I believed you!
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:43 PM Permalink
ThoseMedallingKids

Clue 1

The Mystery of Zephy's Missing Medal

Zephy's lost his medal and it's made him sad

There 'twas but one choice that he had

In order to best solve this mystery

He flagged down the coolerest kids in history

His own kids, a lil' roaster and Sarah

Tommy and Joey, as well as another Sarah

Natalie was Diggin' Dom with Hannah and Emmy

Meg saw this one guy with Lisa n' Amy

Warning, whatta peanut that lil' Bella!

Beans? Who would eat 'em up but Alibaba?

Six siblings that might drive the weakest of people up a wall

I'd have to be outta my mind to remember the names of 'em all

Two little girls couldn't make it- blame Kitch

There were twins but I couldn't tell which was which

Those medalling kids got there in a mystery machine

A mystery it travelled with no one over sixteen

It wasn't Tim the hunter or Regman, Kollin or Kris

Since they're too old to be a part of this

Zephy told the junior hunters that if they were smart

Paying respect to his brothers was the best way to start

Explanation:

The obvious clue in this one is the last two lines. Zephy's brothers in this instance are Boreas and Titan. At the starting point of the story, there are two rocks engraved to the memory of a former King Boreas and Titan. The starting point is the arboretum, which is referenced at "would eat'em". Arbor being trees, wood. The end is also referenced with the use of "flagged down". The treasure is found underneath the flag at the end of the story.

Clue 2

On the search as they headed west

Some thought they were looking for a treasure chest

They didn't realize they were wrong

As they walked past windjammers and ding dongs

Adventures like in Alice in Wonderland or Harry Potter

Danced in their heads as they walked through water

Explanation:

I tell you to head west from the starting point. It was meant to help figure that the arboretum was where to begin, and that the clues would occur as you moved west. Windjammers and ding dongs come from the Celebration Walk in the arboretum. It is a brick road with names inscribed. They are mostly personal names, although Windjammers and Ding Dongs were the more unique names. Moving west from the arboretum, you walk through water in the sense that there is a path with water on both sides of it.

Clue 3

The kids got something from a scribe, it was a note

It was from Zephy, and this is what he wrote

"To do well you must beat around the bush and the rock

It will hit near home that beating the enemy's a race against the clock

Finding it both high and low will be true

Depending on your point of view

There are cable cones nearby which are unique

Remembering back will help you find what you seek

With these hints, finding it will be in the bag

There will be more though, so don't y'all nag"

THX, or thanks, was the last line

His abbreviation for it, was it a sign?

Explanation:

This clue tells you right where to look at the end. It doesn't fit in the linear sense, since it does pertain to the end. I wanted to give people a chance to find the treasure since Central is a big park. Beat around the bush and rock is because there were bushes around the flag and memorial. There was a rock/stone wall that surrounded the memorial. Rock was used because taking "rock" and the following word, "it", you get "rocket". There is a play rocket very near the treasure site. Hit near home refers to the homes near the spot, beyond the rocket. The treasure was both high, if you were standing behind the memorial on the ground below the stone wall, or low if you were on top of the stone wall or amongst the bushes. Cable cones anagrams to "bocce lanes". There are four bocce lanes within plain view from the treasure spot, and bocce is a pretty unique feature to the park system. "Remembering back" could help in two ways, both referencing the veterans memoial and that the treasure was in back of the memorial. The treasure was in a bag, thus "finding it in the bag".

Clue 4

Passing along a field of diamonds that are green

They imagined a winter carnival scene

Muck lucks on cold feet and parkas around frozen buttocks

Noodling clues illogically like a group of anti-Spocks

The kids thought ahead to the times when

They would be out with the old-timers digging for it again

Sneaking over a secret crossing they could almost taste the cocoa

Rosy cheeks framed their smiles as they tried not to go loco

Explanation:

This clue probably through some people off, and I apologize. I meant it to be softball fields, which there are a number of them after the path through the water. The other part to this clue was the secret crossing. Victoria runs through the park, and you'd have to cross it to continue on. Victoria's Secret is what would have helped you figured this clue out.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:43 PM Permalink
mrbud1

Was out at central earlier today, lots of people. But where in the park the side that lexington pkwy is on or do you have to hike. woodsy retreat, hmmmmmmmm
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:44 PM Permalink
excavating stud

Every stinkin year I spend the first half of the hunt searching outside of St Paul convinced this is the year. Hunt #1, I did the same thing. What do I do for Hunt #2, look in St Paul. I'm such a loser.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:45 PM Permalink
ThoseMedallingKids

Clue 5

Continuing on they saw a valet from the Bible

Then just beyond were 24 rectangles that aren't pliable

Immeasurable rectangles and squares rise on top and around

Stopping atop the slight rise of trail they looked back around

They wished the map guy were there for his brain to pick

But their frustration in finding things stung worse than a wicked nick

Zephy told them before that if parts of this clue they could comprehend

It would lead them to the treasure in the end

Explanation:

A valet is someone whose job is parking, or parking cars. Lot is from the Bible. Thus a Biblical valet would be a parking lot, or parking car lot. The 24 rectangles that aren't pliable is the collection of rectangles that form the two tennis courts just past the parking lot. Rectangles and squares rise on top to form the net, and around to form the fencing enclosure. Taking the words pick and nick from the end of lines 5 & 6 gives you picnic, which there is a picnic shelter past the tennis courts. The last lines help you figure out where to look for the treasure in that there were picnic tables near the hiding spot, and a parking lot right next to the memorial.

Clue 6

As they went along the saw mom & pops watching kids play

At a playground for which many wanted to stay

The desire to swing and slide burned like a fire in the pit of their stomach

To cure their tunnel vision of ignoring the hunt they need the heimlich

Meeting a body of water the path forked and they heard mysical music

Using a TLC tune to choose which way to go was the trick

Zephy told them that an east-side digger would be searching for quite a spell

While a west-side hunter would be much closer to doing well

They split into two groups with the hopes that they might

Be the one that picked the path which was right

Explanation:

Obviously there is a playground next. On the opposite side of the path there is a large fire pit. Tunnel vision refers to the tunnel that is in the hill as a part of the playground area. The body of water the kids encountered is Bennett Lake. The TLC tune in question is "waterfalls". The song says "don't go chasing waterfalls". If you went towards the waterfall, you'd take longer to get to the treasure. If you went away from it, you'd take a shorter route to get to it. East side and west side diggers was to preclude people from focusing on the middle part of the park or the lake, and to keep going to the west side, which is closer to the final resting spot.

Clue 7

One group went right and passed a woman in a really strange chair

One kid said to another "I dig her dog, seeing it lick her lady's face there"

Someone sang the alphabet song, "H-I-J-K-L-M-N-O...."

Falling from above a bridge to underneath below

Explanation:

The really strange chair is an orangish bench that is oddly shaped. The dog reference fits in with the number of pet owners who walk their dog along the paths. The final clue was again the waterfall. The alphabet was sung from H to O, or H20 which is water, followed by the word falling. It started above a bridge, then worked its way underneath it.

Clue 8

One group ventured left while going over a card game

While others pretended they were Ares & Artemis of mythological fame

Bob Marley, king of Rastafaria, probably liked to get high

But couldn't fit into the lofted houses the kids could espy

Later they saw a sign of what lay below

Well I've channeled two animals to make a different one to know

Explanation:

Going over a card game was in fact bridge. There is a bridge that spans a small creek that leads to a small pond. The lofted houses were bird houses that were attached to poles that came from the lake, which you could see as you walked along the bridge and the path. As you walk along the path, you come to a sign. The two animals that you combine are a cat and a fish to make catfish, which channel catfish are in the lake, according to the sign.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:46 PM Permalink
ThoseMedallingKids

Clue 9

The first group saw an electrifying high wire act

They were having a ball up in the air, that's a fact

One kid noticed a sunburn, looking at her red bare skin

"Me too" said another, "it's like an involuntary valentines pin"

They discussed the idea from Jake of remembering his salutation

Not wanting to train to give the pledge of allegiance to his Medallion Nation

Passing lots of sand not in box or on beach

Along the path they went, the goal more within reach

Explanation:

The electrifying high wire act is the electrical wires that span the lake overhead. Electrical wires that run along the north edge of the park have the colored balls on them. Train is referenced since there are train tracks that also run along the northern edge of the park. The sand not in box or in beach is the sand volleyball courts which you encounter further along the

path.

Clue 10

The other group knew the search was going down, down, down to the wire

And they pressed on because their hearts burned, burned, burned with desire

Tempted away by someone who wasn't a lil' man, but gigantic with a big "G"

They sang "Mr. Med hunter man, to keep me from hunting you couldn't pay me"

Further along they saw an unmoving show of "The Rose" on stage

It and the seats for viewing it were all red like rage

Explanation:

"down, down, down" and "burn, burn, burn" comes from Johny Cash's "Ring of Fire" song. There is a large ring of rocks for another firepit. The stage is the amphitheater alongside the lake. There is a large Rose on the ground at the center of the stage. The rose itself is red, as well as a number of benches which sit atop the hillside that looks upon the stage.

Clue 11

Both groups were wondering what was happening to their other peers

But before they could contemplate much they began to let out cheers

They met where you'd go for baiting and casting ills

Allured to get their prescription fills

"Mmm, what do we do next?" asked someone

The response was "we follow the path to glory and get this done"

They walked up the path towards the bathrooms and parking lot

Hoping they could find the elusive x that marked the spot

At first they thought they saw some saint tailgaters sitting near a car

But unless they were given coordinates of KCOGRN they were off very far

The kids did not have to be a professor like Leelabell to realize

That so close by lay the treasured prize

Explanation:

Peers refers to the fishing pier. The person who can help you with baiting and casting ills and prescriptions would be a fishing doc(k). Two ways to say the same thing. The path to glory was a path that led up a slight rise, past some bathrooms, somewhat towards the direction of the parking lot.

Clue 12

Remembering all that Zephy had said the cooler kids were able to deduce

The spot they were looking for, that a treasure it would produce

Along the path near the parking lot is a veterans monument

Searching along the inside edge of the stone wall the cooler kids went

In a small bag that was brown and had a weave

Within this bag, Zephy's medal someone did leave

The treasure was finally found at the base of Old Glory

And that is the happy ending to this treasure hunting story

Explanation:

Tells you where to go to find the treasure. Under the flagpole, along the inside edge of the stonewall was the treasure. It was in a brown woven bag, to help blend in with the wood products that covered it somewhat
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:47 PM Permalink
OT

Awwwww, don't say that. We're all winners in here, dontcha know. :grin:
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:48 PM Permalink
excavating stud

Thanks OT! That's just something I needed to get off my chest. Now I'm ready to hunt. :smile:
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 9:57 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

not a big crowd at all for the 3rd to last clue, kind of interesting.

a ton of cooler crew and friends, but I think we may have outnumbered non coolers tonight, hopefully that's a sign and we can complete the sweep.

now for the million dollar question: where in central?
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 10:01 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

roseville has their own hunt I understand, I presume it has been hidden at central in the past, does anyone know specifics on where in central it was hidden?

the reason I ask is the last 2 lines seem to be written from roseville's perspective. "come on down" makes sense as a phrase if you are telling them to come to your place whether it be up or down geographically, simliar to when people "go up" to their cabin that is actually south of the cities. "our hunt" most likely refers to the pioneer press, but if it is read from the same perspective it could be referring to roseville's hunt.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 10:06 PM Permalink
Wicked Nick

Steve is on his way, and we'll be out at Central within an hour or 2
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 10:07 PM Permalink
OT

Have fun Nick!
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 10:11 PM Permalink
Wicked Nick

Im not going there for fun... i'm going there to undo what I've been doing for the past buncha years...

not walking over it, and not peeing on it...

I'm picking the sucker up, this time.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 10:16 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

No one is going to find it tonight. This will be either a daytime find or a last clue rush.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 10:19 PM Permalink
OT

Ok then. :chagrin: Make sure you don't have any fun doing that then! :worried:
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 10:21 PM Permalink
Wicked Nick

I'll have fun, afterwards :sillygrin:
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 10:24 PM Permalink
leelabell

Considering it was third to last clue, I was surprised how few people were at the PP. Maybe because it gets online so quickly?
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 10:27 PM Permalink
Wicked Nick

Oh ye of little faith
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 10:27 PM Permalink
KOP

agree lets think positive kops out there thinking of morning hunting and sleeping tonite i told him tough it out if you snooze now you'll loose
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 10:39 PM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

unless meek means something, that clue gave a bunch of us nothing, except more competition.

welcome to my nightmare
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 10:50 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

Amazing how many people on the PP board are still in denial about it being in Roseville.
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 11:28 PM Permalink
diggin4it

good cooler times tonight at central park...met some old ..but new faces ....Shovel master!

Thanks iceman c u tomorrow/today am....we r so close.. :ooh: :goofy:
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 11:33 PM Permalink
diggin4it

...and lots of roseville cops - - good luck to all hunters :eek:
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 11:35 PM Permalink