which way does his head turn? If looking right, he could be looking over at Larry Ho Zone; if looking to the left, toward Gates Ajar Zone. Remember he is tall, maybe he is looking out over where he is standing to a different zone.
I have been thinking about how I'd handle digging tonight.
I think I would move to a point that it would seem he was gazing at me and then start digging a bit in either direction from that. That wouldn't work at night very well I suppose.
Gilby - it's always good to have a reason for being where you are - even if you're wrong.
I still say the year it was in Kellogg, we had every clue fitting Harriet Island and we weren't the only ones digging down there wondering what all those fools were doing at Kellogg.
Deep Thought: If you lose your job, your marriage and your mind all one week, try to lose your mind first, because then the other stuff won't matter that much.
Not sure what deep thoughts means, but obviously it has some sort of significance because it was included in the clue for whatever reason. Maybe it means buried deep in the snow someplace instead of up in a tree or something.
I know people are going with the "pitches" meaning ball fields, but what if it's meant on the other side of Shiller with the pitches of golf. Head could be turned either way.
Came back around 2:00am Still many cars and people. Decided I need daylight to see what one can see from where.
How many think the Conservatory should be visible from the Treasure site? Or part of it anyway?
It was not lit up tonight like it was last night so I could not gauge that factor.
"Vulcans' VISION is summer all year long" ...leads me to believe it should be visible.
By the way, when I was out earlier today I noticed that one of the "summer all year long" banners that I first saw day before yesterday [before clue] was missing this afternoon. Its holder was intact - banner gone. There was still one over by the kiddie playground.
I was looking between Schiller and Ibsen Friday. Now going back over the clues I don't think it is in that exact spot but my other brilliant deduction today keeps Schiller and Ibsen in play - but I cannot see the Conservatory from it. But I can see quite a few other clues that cannot be seen when digging between Ibsen and Schiller :lipsealed:
I thought the "After giving them fits He was mired in the pits" line referred to Schiller as well as leading via Pits to Lake Como ..."Sent against his wishes to a military academy as a young man, Schiller studied law and medicine and was for a time an army surgeon. His first drama was the play ‘Die Rauber’ about a rebellious, noble outlaw, Karl Moor. Published in 1781, it had great success and gave Schiller instant European recognition. When the duke learned that Schiller had, without permission, left his regiment to see the play performed at Mannheim, he put the young officer under arrest and forbade him to write anything more." http://www.holocaustianity.com/von-schiller.html
Got there after thinking the 5th clue really seemed more like bad paraphrasing of a poet such as Wordsworth and went searching thru Poets with key words and when I read Ode to Joy I knew clue #5 was just that.
Wordsworth wasn't too far off from that idea "The stars are mansions built by nature's hand, And, haply, there the spirits of the blest, Dwell, clothed in radiance, their immortal rest."
I still have to do the supper dishes!! and get some sleep. And if it has not been found go out in the morning. I don't think #7 was a giveaway just yet
His head seems to be looking right slightly. Maybe the "turn his head a bit" means he'd look straight ahead. Hard to tell only looking at Google maps but that would point to the area northeast of Eastabrook and Nason Place area.
There is some other sculpture in that patch but I don't know what it is. It is in the middle of the circular path just south of the Kaufman Dr circle turnaround. Not sure if Schiller is gazing at that. Just some ideas. Maybe someone knows what that little Gazebo with what looks like a large vase is.
Pretty sure the clue is about Schiller. "Schiller was briefly seen at the end of the television show The Colbert Report on March 29, 2010. The bust was held by host Stephen Colbert". It's just a matter of figuring out which way his head is gazing and the use of "just" in the clue means to me he's not looking completely over his shoulder or behind him. I think pretty much anything at a 45 degree angle from wherever he is looking straight qualifies. I'm leaning with him gazing towards the left, instead of the right, because it's saying "away from the pitches", but that's referring to the location of the statue, not necessarily which way his head needs to be turned to look at the medallion. I'm wondering if it could be even east of Lexington?
And as someone said, since he's gazing slightly to the right already, I wonder if we should be assuming his gaze is straightening out ahead of the statue. My guess is the little patch of land south of estabrook dr.
Good luck everyone. I'll be out there from about 10am-can't stand anymore, so hopefully my karma is filled!
Far from the pitches - far from either the baseball pitches or golf pitches (but this is referring to the location of the Schiller Statue, not the medallion, so whichever it is seems irrelevant)
In long hair and britches - What Schiller is wearing
He stood through the storm - The Schiller statue is standing, not the other
And to joy he gave form
Though a bust on TV - Schiller was briefly seen at the end of the television show The Colbert Report on March 29, 2010. The bust was held by host Stephen Colbert (http://www.carlwiki.org/Bust_of_Schiller)
Deep thoughts has he - Schiller was a philosopher and a poet
Turn his head just a ways - Which way?
At the treasure he'd gaze. - If you turn the Schiller statue a certain way, he's gazing at the medallion.
As he stands, Schiller is sort of looking at the medallion that was hid in 1980.
Time for me to go on stupid hunt day...now that we've nailed it to como, and even the proximity within; time for me to self destruct and go somewhere else!
Someone please find it, earlier today than later if you would.
There was a bust of Schiller from Carleton College that appeared on the final episode of "Desperate Housewives". That may more likely be the bust reference for Schiller as it has a local tie-in. Also, Schiller was part of something called the Storm and Stress movement.
We have a bust of Schiller in our house. It's from the Schiller Elementary School, that no longer exists. If my Schiller turns his head just a ways, he'll be looking at me! I better check my pockets for the medallion! :sillygrin:
Like parking, I do not think weather is that big of a concern.
From a marketing standpoint, it's a good thing to get a bunch of people out hunting on the last Sunday. Give them a park and a 1/2 mile circle of snow to dig in creates enthusiasm about hunting and makes for news to print. Monday and Tuesday circulation must be pretty low these days.
The treasure's in Ramsey; public land, search it all --
Suburbs and neighborhoods and throughout St. Paul. Don't dig up the ground. Thin ice -- stay away!
Especially given that Schillers vantage point surveys such a vast area.
If the CW wanted us to search it all - suburbs and neighborhoods and throughout St. Paul, it is interesting that these clues have had most people at Como right from the start.
There is too much information to suggest anything other than Como, but it reminds me of the Harriet to Como hunt.
If Deep thoughts is a reference to the pines, and they are behind Shiller, just turn his head just a ways more to be facing behind him.
Stretching! But at least I'm in a park now and not Downtown (Thank God, I was loosing my mind).
I think I would move to a point that it would seem he was gazing at me and then start digging a bit in either direction from that. That wouldn't work at night very well I suppose.
I still say the year it was in Kellogg, we had every clue fitting Harriet Island and we weren't the only ones digging down there wondering what all those fools were doing at Kellogg.
We were wrong - but we had good reasons.
I wonder how far this will go.
Goodnight and SCDs!
(Mary Hagan was a lady I knew in the Army... oops)
Jake is nearby so maybe were right.
Go Auggies!!
...turn and RUN!! :pbpt:
How many think the Conservatory should be visible from the Treasure site? Or part of it anyway?
It was not lit up tonight like it was last night so I could not gauge that factor.
"Vulcans' VISION is summer all year long" ...leads me to believe it should be visible.
By the way, when I was out earlier today I noticed that one of the "summer all year long" banners that I first saw day before yesterday [before clue] was missing this afternoon. Its holder was intact - banner gone. There was still one over by the kiddie playground.
I was looking between Schiller and Ibsen Friday. Now going back over the clues I don't think it is in that exact spot but my other brilliant deduction today keeps Schiller and Ibsen in play - but I cannot see the Conservatory from it. But I can see quite a few other clues that cannot be seen when digging between Ibsen and Schiller :lipsealed:
I thought the "After giving them fits He was mired in the pits" line referred to Schiller as well as leading via Pits to Lake Como ..."Sent against his wishes to a military academy as a young man, Schiller studied law and medicine and was for a time an army surgeon. His first drama was the play ‘Die Rauber’ about a rebellious, noble outlaw, Karl Moor. Published in 1781, it had great success and gave Schiller instant European recognition. When the duke learned that Schiller had, without permission, left his regiment to see the play performed at Mannheim, he put the young officer under arrest and forbade him to write anything more." http://www.holocaustianity.com/von-schiller.html
Got there after thinking the 5th clue really seemed more like bad paraphrasing of a poet such as Wordsworth and went searching thru Poets with key words and when I read Ode to Joy I knew clue #5 was just that.
Wordsworth wasn't too far off from that idea "The stars are mansions built by nature's hand, And, haply, there the spirits of the blest, Dwell, clothed in radiance, their immortal rest."
I still have to do the supper dishes!! and get some sleep. And if it has not been found go out in the morning. I don't think #7 was a giveaway just yet
There is some other sculpture in that patch but I don't know what it is. It is in the middle of the circular path just south of the Kaufman Dr circle turnaround. Not sure if Schiller is gazing at that. Just some ideas. Maybe someone knows what that little Gazebo with what looks like a large vase is.
And as someone said, since he's gazing slightly to the right already, I wonder if we should be assuming his gaze is straightening out ahead of the statue. My guess is the little patch of land south of estabrook dr.
Good luck everyone. I'll be out there from about 10am-can't stand anymore, so hopefully my karma is filled!
Far from the pitches - far from either the baseball pitches or golf pitches (but this is referring to the location of the Schiller Statue, not the medallion, so whichever it is seems irrelevant)
In long hair and britches - What Schiller is wearing
He stood through the storm - The Schiller statue is standing, not the other
And to joy he gave form
Though a bust on TV - Schiller was briefly seen at the end of the television show The Colbert Report on March 29, 2010. The bust was held by host Stephen Colbert (http://www.carlwiki.org/Bust_of_Schiller)
Deep thoughts has he - Schiller was a philosopher and a poet
Turn his head just a ways - Which way?
At the treasure he'd gaze. - If you turn the Schiller statue a certain way, he's gazing at the medallion.
As he stands, Schiller is sort of looking at the medallion that was hid in 1980.
call on Schiller/Ibsen.
Clue 8 refers to Schiller, an 18th century
enlightenment philosopher/poet/doctor.
Ode to Joy was originally "Ode to Freedom" (Ode an die Freiheit).
Ibsen (1828-1906) was late 19th century and would never
have worn britches (short pants) after puberty.
Soccer Fields of Play are known as pitches.
Someone please find it, earlier today than later if you would.
It always tugs at my diggers heart.
There will be plenty of parking by the
waterpark / shelter area.
BTW, I picked BC in the Pool.
I'm headed to COMO east of the Schiller.
From a marketing standpoint, it's a good thing to get a bunch of people out hunting on the last Sunday. Give them a park and a 1/2 mile circle of snow to dig in creates enthusiasm about hunting and makes for news to print. Monday and Tuesday circulation must be pretty low these days.
The treasure's in Ramsey; public land, search it all --
Suburbs and neighborhoods and throughout St. Paul. Don't dig up the ground. Thin ice -- stay away!
Especially given that Schillers vantage point surveys such a vast area.
If the CW wanted us to search it all - suburbs and neighborhoods and throughout St. Paul, it is interesting that these clues have had most people at Como right from the start.
There is too much information to suggest anything other than Como, but it reminds me of the Harriet to Como hunt.
http://www.comozooconservatory.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/2013-Como-Park-Zoo-Conservatory-Map.pdf