Discuss the 2005 Pioneer Press Treasure Hunt here.
MedallionStallion
Hey green, that's really cool! Where was pig's eye's cave, and where did you glean that little tidbit of history? It's really interesting! I'd like to read more about it.
Three years later, in 1841, a Catholic priest named Father Lucien Galtier arrived and built a small log chapel about a mile downstream (near the present site of the Robert Street Bridge). Every Sunday the people of the community of Pig's Eye traveled down river to Father Galtier's chapel. Soon they became dissatisfied with the name of the community and decided to change it to the name of that little chapel. It was the Chapel of Saint Paul. That is how the city of Saint Paul began at Fountain Cave which was located approximately where the ADM Grain Terminal is today along Shepherd Road, just up river from the downtown area.
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Speaking of the song theme, the "floating boardwalk" at Crosby, there is that song "Under the Boardwalk"; but that may be too dangerous of a place to hide the med.
"Long known to the native population, Fountain Cave was the first building site in what would become St. Paul. Pierre (Pig's Eye) Parrant, a person of mixed reputation, built a cabin at the mouth of the cave in 1838.
Parrant was evicted two years later by the military authorities at Fort Snelling. After Pig's Eye's departure, the cave was used as a storehouse and then as a tourist attraction from 1850-1880. St. Paul residents visited the cave for its cool air and cooler water. In 1852 a pavilion was opened nearby, which offered refreshments and lights for exploring. Fountain Cave was even featured in the "Tourists' Guide to the Health and Pleasure Resorts of the Golden Northwest."
There were many human activities that led to the deterioration of Fountain Cave. In the late 1800's, sewage and storm water were discharged through the cave by a railroad facility. This reduced the cave's value as a tourist attraction. Residential development also damaged the area by filling the wetlands and slowing the flow of Fountain Creek into the cave. Finally, in 1960 the cave's entrance was buried during the construction of Shepard Road.
General Information
Fountain Cave was known as IN-YAN TI-PI by the local Dakota people.
Fountain Cave was estimated to have been 1,150 feet in length, and was possibly Minnesota's longest natural sandstone cave. The formation of the cave was a result of erosion. As stream water made its way to the Mississippi, the sandstone wore away. Inside the cave, a 150-foot-long winding hall led to a beautiful circular room about 50 feet in diameter.
and I still can't believe there has not been an anagram of some kind with only 3 clues left, or words spelled backwards, or some kind of riddle within the clues. it is not typical clue behavior.
i actually like your take on the other end of of where we were last night - towards HF but AW makes a nice case for the NORTH side of the lakes too....
Does anyone know the answer to my button question? If I have a registered button, but my hubby doesn't, and he finds it, do we still qualify for the big prize?
Hey green, that's really cool! Where was pig's eye's cave, and where did you glean that little tidbit of history? It's really interesting! I'd like to read more about it.
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http://www.riverrides.com/pages/SFT/stp_narration.html
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I'm still noodling BC, as you can see. LOL!!!
That's a nice history lesson in a capsule. Thanks for posting that.
Here is another source of the Pig's Eye/Fountain Cave story.Â
http://www.riverrides.com/pages/About_Us/about_riverhistory.html
It goes on to talk about St. Paul:
Three years later, in 1841, a Catholic priest named Father Lucien Galtier arrived and built a small log chapel about a mile downstream (near the present site of the Robert Street Bridge). Every Sunday the people of the community of Pig's Eye traveled down river to Father Galtier's chapel. Soon they became dissatisfied with the name of the community and decided to change it to the name of that little chapel. It was the Chapel of Saint Paul. That is how the city of Saint Paul began at Fountain Cave which was located approximately where the ADM Grain Terminal is today along Shepherd Road, just up river from the downtown area.
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no it doesnt actually.......i hate it
ha...i just went to watergatemarina's website...they had an open house on 29th and 30th......
you'd think people where confused???
That was a alot to slog...had to rush. If you need something from me.. egram me.
Speaking of the song theme, the "floating boardwalk" at Crosby, there is that song "Under the Boardwalk"; but that may be too dangerous of a place to hide the med.
Theasurus verb for wend is "boat" "cruise
Fountain Cave
History
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Long known to the native population, Fountain Cave was the first building site in what would become St. Paul. Pierre (Pig's Eye) Parrant, a person of mixed reputation, built a cabin at the mouth of the cave in 1838.
Parrant was evicted two years later by the military authorities at Fort Snelling. After Pig's Eye's departure, the cave was used as a storehouse and then as a tourist attraction from 1850-1880. St. Paul residents visited the cave for its cool air and cooler water. In 1852 a pavilion was opened nearby, which offered refreshments and lights for exploring. Fountain Cave was even featured in the "Tourists' Guide to the Health and Pleasure Resorts of the Golden Northwest."
There were many human activities that led to the deterioration of Fountain Cave. In the late 1800's, sewage and storm water were discharged through the cave by a railroad facility. This reduced the cave's value as a tourist attraction. Residential development also damaged the area by filling the wetlands and slowing the flow of Fountain Creek into the cave. Finally, in 1960 the cave's entrance was buried during the construction of Shepard Road.
General Information
Fountain Cave was known as IN-YAN TI-PI by the local Dakota people.
Fountain Cave was estimated to have been 1,150 feet in length, and was possibly Minnesota's longest natural sandstone cave. The formation of the cave was a result of erosion. As stream water made its way to the Mississippi, the sandstone wore away. Inside the cave, a 150-foot-long winding hall led to a beautiful circular room about 50 feet in diameter.
The cave is no longer evident or accessible.
RR...I still think we are in the wrong park......I just don't know where yet....
I still have a list...
crosby -80%
higland -10%
hiddenfalls -8%
frogpond-2%
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I've got to get to my classes, darn life is interferring with the hunt.
Green: good info on Pigs Eye. can you X-country ski there?(clue 6)
Kitch,
I agree - Altho I could very well be wrong. I don't like Crosby with the clues - but I also don't seem to like any of the other parks.
eerrrrr!
Why do you give Highland a 2% lead over HF?
and I still can't believe there has not been an anagram of some kind with only 3 clues left, or words spelled backwards, or some kind of riddle within the clues. it is not typical clue behavior.
i actually like your take on the other end of of where we were last night - towards HF but AW makes a nice case for the NORTH side of the lakes too....
i just hate the fact that the park is so huge....
Does anyone know the answer to my button question?
If I have a registered button, but my hubby doesn't, and he finds it, do we still qualify for the big prize?
Typical clue behavior- heeheeheehee. :P
not sure KT- but he does find it you better leave work and go turn the med in!
KT :)... just meet him at the press
That's what I was thinking.
why do I work, why do I work, why do I work???!!! I need to be out in the daylight-
OTS = on the schweel!! LMFAO
We put both names on the registration card. John and Jane Doe. It doesn't say anywhere on the card that it's limited to one person per card.
So, next year I put "Cooler Crew" on my cards?????
Might work! How about Cooler Crew Family.
"Under the Boardwalk" song: Rolling Stones, Beach Boys, Drifters
FUNNY green!!
Rolling Stones gather no lichens.
Childs ("Young man or woman) Road comes off Warner Road...
How many people think this could go to clue 12, plus a day or two after that? Lots of ground to cover!
Warner also divides the two portions of Battle Creek - Indian Mounds Regional Park...
RR...I like 3 areas of crosby...
just still 2 much ground to cover....
why 2% more for highland?? - homer...
http://wintercarnival.8m.com/index.html
I haven't been back to the park yet.
does anyone know if you can still tell what's already been excavated?
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you can tell.....but the question is did the person that dug it do a good job?
did he/she pass right over the top of it and put it in a big pile of snow?
Anything I can do to help LAMommy
Are you SURE it's at Crosby?
NO :)
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the bad thing is we don't know the size...it could be flat...like a coin...
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I have to go clean up the house a bit Crew. I will be on my own tonight. So let me know if it's still GW and whos all might be going....
Be back in a bit.
OTS...you know where I'm going to be....
yes Sir that I do....
Depending on when I get out of here I might head your direction.
you better send out dennis the fuzzy gherkin to hunt for you
2nite...i just can't let people talk me outta of it until the next clue....
but if I'm wrong.......I'm screwed....it would talk me at least a half hour to 45 mins to get to where I'd wanna be.....
And I won't kill any more of yer Joes... :)
Maybe I'll just maim them a lil for ya...
Nice noodle, Zeph
Very nice noodle, indeed, Zeph! I had been struggling a lot with that word choice. Ah, heck, when aren't I though.
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