Discuss the 2005 Pioneer Press Treasure Hunt here.
tim_the_hunter
Why? What purpose does that serve, Tim? What purpose does that serve, OTS?
well we finally got to the root of the problem, now that it's out in the open, the problem is almost fixed.
and what colors would those be, tim? what colors would those be? she's got more integrity in her pinky than you could ever hope to have. what the fuck have you done, huh?
you just answered it for me. it's not about what I've done. it's not about what you've done. it's not about what OTiS has done. it's about zeph. but you two turned it into a "look at us, we're doing something good" thing, and that's really lame. really really lame.
read the rest of my post, the big problem is for those two its turned into a "we did this, so we are better than you" thing. it's caused multiple problems in here. that egram shows it, from my perspective.
read the rest of my post, the big problem is for those two its turned into a "we did this, so we are better than you" thing. it's caused multiple problems in here. that egram shows it, from my perspective.
no the problem is that people who didn't do anything want to ride on the coattails of those who did all the while criticizing what we did and worked for. doesn't really sit well with us. nor should it sit well to any sane person.
no the problem is that people who didn't do anything want to ride on the coattails of those who did all the while criticizing what we did and worked for. doesn't really sit well with us. nor should it sit well to any sane person.
I dont wan't any credit at all, I didn't ask for any credit, and I sure as hell don't want to be on YOUR coattails.
The whole problem is worrying about credit in the first place, it's your perspective ares. You did a great thing, but now with all this "we did this, what did you do" it really seems like your motives weren't as pure as we might have originally thought. Again, it's about no one but Zeph but you don't seem to get that.
I understand that some people are upset this got aired on the board, and for that I am sorry. I just think this entire thing is a cancer that has already caused other problems in the CC and I hate that. Everyone knows how I feel, everyone was able to read all the posts and draw their own conclusions, I'm done arguing about it.
Excuse me! Finally found out TC's true colors?? Do you have any idea of what that woman does for others? If you ever need someone, you can count on her. I can't count the times she's offered to help me out someway. An hour or so ago I mentioned that I needed cat food and coffee and she offered to bring some over to me. And she would have! I guess I have to question the motives behind anyone who questions her "true colors".
its not about credit g. its like bitching about who's in office without voting. and then when asked why you didn't vote saying its because you didn't like the candidates. after having not voted initially in the primaries. and the way i took your post was exactly that. you specifically stated that you weren't sure what we did was ok with everyone as we represented the crew. where were those people back then? because i sure as hell don't remember anyone saying they objected to anything we did.
again. if someone can come up with someplace where there was an offer, i'll retract that statement. thus far, i haven't.
I'm officially declaring this DONE. That's enough now everyone. Take it to egrams or emails or wherever. Let's all get back to having a little fun. That's an ORDER!!! Next icky post gets a spankin or something...
The whole problem is worrying about credit in the first place, it's your perspective ares. You did a great thing, but now with all this "we did this, what did you do" it really seems like your motives weren't as pure as we might have originally thought. Again, it's about no one but Zeph but you don't seem to get that.
uh yeah i do know that. this whole thing started out today when g said something about not everyone being cool with how we did it. you do nothave the right to bitch about something you took no part in. period. it has nothing to do with credit for anything. i could give a shit about getting credit. but the fact is that we did it, and i'll be damned if anyoneis going to question me for how i did it, when no one else did.
I am not getting into the rest of this crap but for the world to see I want to make this very clear........I gave 3 people tiaras as a thank you. It was a funny joke. There was not then nor now any reference to any individual around here to make fun of them or take a jab at them. There was no malice or mean spirited thoughts implied or out right spoken. It was a thank you to Scribe, Leelabell, and Big G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Nothing more nothing less.....a THANK YOU!!
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Girls had I known this would have happened I would have given them to you at another time. Sorry to get you involved!!
uh yeah i do know that. this whole thing started out today when g said something about not everyone being cool with how we did it. you do not have the right to bitch about something you took no part in. period. it has nothing to do with credit for anything. i could give a shit about getting credit. but the fact is that we did it, and i'll be damned if anyone is going to question me for how i did it, when no one else did.
no it started when sue said I did something at the rehash but wouldn't say what, then G said different groups do different things. maybe you need to read the whole conversation so you can understand what you are talking about.
you do not have the right to bitch about something you took no part in. period. it has nothing to do with credit for anything. i could give a shit about getting credit. but the fact is that we did it, and i'll be damned if anyone is going to question me for how i did it, when no one else did.
Ah ha! To sum up:
1. Ares and TC don't care about credit
2. Ares and TC care if you complain about how it was done, since, well, they did it (but they don't need the credit)
3. Ares and TC (AND REDBEAR) Care if people complain about nice things that were done for them (or for Pay Me, or for OTS, or for people who helped out with the Zeph project) as a result of their philanthropy.
I was not bitching. I wasn't trying to speak for everyone. I'm glad THX knows how to read what I wrote.
And I did mention Zeph, but I did not start the arguing. I came on the thread in the middle of arguing after TC posted that nasty comment to Tim abut cliques. My point, if I remember since that was like 5 HOURS AGO, was that the Zeph thing seemed cliquey to me. That's all. I think I have a right to an opinion and a right to be mistaken. GEEZ. And then Tim posted cliquey things happen. And we agreed, and Randy made a wise crack, and Tim drew an awesome tattoo. And all was happy. Then an egram happened. (NOT BLAMING YOU OTS)
TC is a nice person, but that egram to OTiS was extremely unfriendly, to be polite. (look fast, people! I'm being polite!!!) :)
why not? a lot of jabs have come this direction too. after all, being a partner in this you would think he'd stand up and say she did the best she could, but nothing.
and tim, sue apologizes that that came off at you specifically wrt the rehash. it was intended to be about the clique and how it was hardly inclusive. also, sue did not have an attitude that day; she had strep throat (didn't know it until monday night though). by the time we got home her temp was up to 103.
 you would think he'd stand up and say she did the best she could, but nothing.
Here is the issue I have with that. It is not ANYBODY's responsibility to stand up for anybody other then themselves.  People in here are adults and can make a decision to chime into a conversation or not chime in. It doesnt say anything about anything for him not posting.  NOONE should be criticized for what they choose to say and not say!!
and tim, sue apologizes that that came off at you specifically wrt the rehash. it was intended to be about the clique and how it was hardly inclusive.
apology accepted, and I knew thats what she was talking about I just wanted to make sure so we could clear it up because it's pretty silly to take a shot about someone buying their friends tiaras. to think it was a shot at sue was also silly but if she had just responded to my questioning and said that, or egrammed me it, I could have cleared it up and averted a crisis.
after all, being a partner in this you would think he'd stand up and say she did the best she could, but nothing.
so now I'm a partner? 30 minutes ago I was just the guy who glued the face on the dummy and sent the packages late.
As far as doing nothing.....We'll just nevermind the two hours I spent trying to clear things up with her this morning. She even stated she understood that the Tiara thing wasn't directed at her. Now all teh sudden we forget that?
OTS Coolertimes: I understand OTS Coolertimes: She understands OTS Coolertimes: others do OTS Coolertimes: some don't SusieC1313: I am glad that the tiaras werent a dig OTS Coolertimes: No SusieC1313: that was important OTS Coolertimes: and i'm glad that you know that OTS Coolertimes: If you haven't slogged then you have missed quite alot of silly stuff SusieC1313: you know SusieC1313: I ignore most of it SusieC1313: lol OTS Coolertimes: I could tell ;-)
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My point, if I remember since that was like 5 HOURS AGO, was that the Zeph thing seemed cliquey to me.
how so? no one ever expressed any interest in helping with it. even the night at the buttery when we heard the vulcans were gonna show up, no one wanted to come along with to go get him, with the much appreciated exception of mr. muzik.
Then an egram happened. (NOT BLAMING YOU OTS)
he's the one that made it public, not her.
TC is a nice person, but that egram to OTiS was extremely unfriendly, to be polite. (look fast, people! I'm being polite!!!) :)
and there does exist a right to be impolite and unfriendly. but that egram shouldhave stayed just that.
And at the same time you think you have the right to tell me when I should or shouldn't speak up?
did anyone tell you not to speak up? no. i said that those who did nothing to/for a cause have no right to bitch about how said cause got implemented. to paraphrase your own words, otis, said people have two things to do/say. leave, or say thank you.
you still haven't addressed this either:
What purpose does that serve, OTS? Why do you need to do that?
I'm not going to go one about this nonsense anymore.
You honestly thing I'm going to spend my time justifing to you or anyone else what I choose to say or not say? TC was getting into a war of words about nonsense that we have already covered concerning the Tiaras and the opinions of other Cooler Heads.
Why did I post that Egram? Because I want everyone to see the whole picture.
I speak up when I have something to say. What I said for 2 hours was said beyond the PF. It was said between TC and myself.
But to me trying to take credit? yes of course... You must be right.... I'm sure you could see it the whole time! All I did the last two weeks was run around and try to take credit for Zeph. You can see that everywhere I've been.
In fact I invite anyone here to post examples of me doing just that.
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Everything I have ever done here has been for the crew.
TC wasn't mad about just the Tiaras:
She was upset about the small groups that form within the crew.
She was still upset that Coolertimes in her eyes competes with Coolercrew.com and that I was running around promoting my site everywhere.
She was upset because she felt that the newer members of the Crew were trying to make to many changes here without considering the feelings of those who have set up what we have this present day.
She was upset that Pay Me and I didn't offer to take orders on the new hats we wore to the PDG prior to getting them made.
She was upset about the crew discussion the possiblilty of a new Logo considering the work and money me2 had spent working on the scarfs this year.
These are all things I spent time talking to her about. These are all the things she was upset about.
I understand that people are pissed that I posted it. THX can remove it if he chooses at anytime. But if you think you can discount what we have done for Zeph and think I'm not going to share it after that little speech you gave when you informed us that TC was gone for good you are out of your mind.
The St. Paul Winter Carnival today immediately suspended the Vulcan Krewe and its king, Tom Trudeau, from all activities as the result of a criminal sexual molestation investigation by St. Paul Police.
Robert Viking, president and CEO of the St. Paul Festival and Heritage Foundation, which operates the carnival, said that the carnival board will also consider permanent bans on pub crawling by the Vulcans and eliminating the garter and pinning rituals.
St. Paul police are investigating complaints that on the evening of Feb. 1, Trudeau and other Vulcans were at Alary's Bar, 139 E. 7th St., where they come each year to perform "the garter ritual" in which the Vulcan King places a garter halfway up the thigh of a female bartender's leg, bar owner Albert Baisi told police.
Three female bartenders allege, however, that Trudeau shocked and offended them by jabbing the crotches of two of them, then placing his hands under their clothing and touching their breasts, according to the complaint.
The third woman told police that the Vulcan King poked her in the breast with his finger and later grabbed the back of her shorts and pulled them up.
The carnival's Protocol and Exchange committee met on Wednesday and approved a number of recommendations from Viking. Among them: Granting a voluntary leave of absence to Trudeau. Viking said Trudeau will be on leave until the case is concluded.
The committee also suspended Vulcans from official appearances and prohibited them from wearing their running suits and paraphernalia pending further review by the panel and the foundation's board of directors.
The carnival also plans to establish a review panel to examine the Vulcan Krewe and their practices in order to bring them into line with "community standards," Viking said.
Why? What purpose does that serve, Tim? What purpose does that serve, OTS?
well we finally got to the root of the problem, now that it's out in the open, the problem is almost fixed.
and what colors would those be, tim? what colors would those be? she's got more integrity in her pinky than you could ever hope to have. what the fuck have you done, huh?
you just answered it for me. it's not about what I've done. it's not about what you've done. it's not about what OTiS has done. it's about zeph. but you two turned it into a "look at us, we're doing something good" thing, and that's really lame. really really lame.
[Edited by on Feb 10, 2005 at 03:26pm.]
well we finally got to the root of the problem, now that it's out in the open, the problem is almost fixed
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What root, tim? what problem, tim?
What root, tim? what problem, tim?
read the rest of my post, the big problem is for those two its turned into a "we did this, so we are better than you" thing. it's caused multiple problems in here. that egram shows it, from my perspective.
 but you turned two turned it into a "look at us, we're doing something good" thing, and that's really lame. really really lame.
I think what ares & TC did was awesome. As much as I like Zeph, I wouldn't have hauled him around like that.
I think what Pay Me & Otis did was awesome. I wouldn't have wanted to mail all that stuff off to Iraq.
I know both couples here, and they're both good couples. All four are good people.
:-(
HOLY SHIT! Do you realize what just happened here????? Poor zeph. And I'm not saying that to OTS. I agree with what he did.
I also agree with Frozen.
Ding ding! ROUND TWO!!!
read the rest of my post, the big problem is for those two its turned into a "we did this, so we are better than you" thing. it's caused multiple problems in here. that egram shows it, from my perspective.
no the problem is that people who didn't do anything want to ride on the coattails of those who did all the while criticizing what we did and worked for. doesn't really sit well with us. nor should it sit well to any sane person.
Agreed, THX, but if they had problems with each other they should have kept it between them.
Do you realize what just happened here?????
do you? your post is what started this.
seems to me that there are a shitload of people around here who have said "hey look at me" who didn't do one god damn credit-worthy thing.
so you admit it's about credit? I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm done with that, I'm just asking a question.
LOL... when exactly did you figure out that we didn't send anything to Zeoh Ares?
I'm just curious... did you want me to drag our stuff all the way to St Paul so I could bring it home?
No my post was trying to prove that all this arguing crap happens a lot. I think that's been proved.
no the problem is that people who didn't do anything want to ride on the coattails of those who did all the while criticizing what we did and worked for. doesn't really sit well with us. nor should it sit well to any sane person.
I dont wan't any credit at all, I didn't ask for any credit, and I sure as hell don't want to be on YOUR coattails.
The whole problem is worrying about credit in the first place, it's your perspective ares. You did a great thing, but now with all this "we did this, what did you do" it really seems like your motives weren't as pure as we might have originally thought. Again, it's about no one but Zeph but you don't seem to get that.
I understand that some people are upset this got aired on the board, and for that I am sorry. I just think this entire thing is a cancer that has already caused other problems in the CC and I hate that. Everyone knows how I feel, everyone was able to read all the posts and draw their own conclusions, I'm done arguing about it.
Excuse me! Finally found out TC's true colors?? Do you have any idea of what that woman does for others? If you ever need someone, you can count on her. I can't count the times she's offered to help me out someway. An hour or so ago I mentioned that I needed cat food and coffee and she offered to bring some over to me. And she would have! I guess I have to question the motives behind anyone who questions her "true colors".
its not about credit g. its like bitching about who's in office without voting. and then when asked why you didn't vote saying its because you didn't like the candidates. after having not voted initially in the primaries. and the way i took your post was exactly that. you specifically stated that you weren't sure what we did was ok with everyone as we represented the crew. where were those people back then? because i sure as hell don't remember anyone saying they objected to anything we did.
again. if someone can come up with someplace where there was an offer, i'll retract that statement. thus far, i haven't.
I'm officially declaring this DONE. That's enough now everyone. Take it to egrams or emails or wherever. Let's all get back to having a little fun. That's an ORDER!!! Next icky post gets a spankin or something...
That's how I read it.
Ooh! A-Spankin' Joe
Anyone have any thoughts on this??? any piercing experts in here?
[Edited by on Feb 10, 2005 at 03:44pm.]
The whole problem is worrying about credit in the first place, it's your perspective ares. You did a great thing, but now with all this "we did this, what did you do" it really seems like your motives weren't as pure as we might have originally thought. Again, it's about no one but Zeph but you don't seem to get that.
uh yeah i do know that. this whole thing started out today when g said something about not everyone being cool with how we did it. you do nothave the right to bitch about something you took no part in. period. it has nothing to do with credit for anything. i could give a shit about getting credit. but the fact is that we did it, and i'll be damned if anyoneis going to question me for how i did it, when no one else did.
I am not getting into the rest of this crap but for the world to see I want to make this very clear........I gave 3 people tiaras as a thank you. It was a funny joke. There was not then nor now any reference to any individual around here to make fun of them or take a jab at them. There was no malice or mean spirited thoughts implied or out right spoken. It was a thank you to Scribe, Leelabell, and Big G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Nothing more nothing less.....a THANK YOU!!
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Girls had I known this would have happened I would have given them to you at another time. Sorry to get you involved!!
Anyone have any thoughts on this??? any piercing experts in here?
I'm sure Kitch (Mr Google) can find you some nice pictures of infected piercings.
uh yeah i do know that. this whole thing started out today when g said something about not everyone being cool with how we did it. you do not have the right to bitch about something you took no part in. period. it has nothing to do with credit for anything. i could give a shit about getting credit. but the fact is that we did it, and i'll be damned if anyone is going to question me for how i did it, when no one else did.
no it started when sue said I did something at the rehash but wouldn't say what, then G said different groups do different things. maybe you need to read the whole conversation so you can understand what you are talking about.
Plumbing Truck...
*puts smart cap on*
you do not have the right to bitch about something you took no part in. period. it has nothing to do with credit for anything. i could give a shit about getting credit. but the fact is that we did it, and i'll be damned if anyone is going to question me for how i did it, when no one else did.
Ah ha! To sum up:
1. Ares and TC don't care about credit
2. Ares and TC care if you complain about how it was done, since, well, they did it (but they don't need the credit)
3. Ares and TC (AND REDBEAR) Care if people complain about nice things that were done for them (or for Pay Me, or for OTS, or for people who helped out with the Zeph project) as a result of their philanthropy.
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2. Ares and TC care if you complain about how it was done, since, well, they did it (but they don't need the credit)
What about when TC takes a jab at OTiS for sending zeph his stuff late?
I was not bitching. I wasn't trying to speak for everyone. I'm glad THX knows how to read what I wrote.
And I did mention Zeph, but I did not start the arguing. I came on the thread in the middle of arguing after TC posted that nasty comment to Tim abut cliques. My point, if I remember since that was like 5 HOURS AGO, was that the Zeph thing seemed cliquey to me. That's all. I think I have a right to an opinion and a right to be mistaken. GEEZ. And then Tim posted cliquey things happen. And we agreed, and Randy made a wise crack, and Tim drew an awesome tattoo. And all was happy. Then an egram happened. (NOT BLAMING YOU OTS)
TC is a nice person, but that egram to OTiS was extremely unfriendly, to be polite. (look fast, people! I'm being polite!!!) :)
YOU HAVE CHILDREN RANDY. A prince albert??!?!?! Geez. :)
why not? a lot of jabs have come this direction too. after all, being a partner in this you would think he'd stand up and say she did the best she could, but nothing.
and tim, sue apologizes that that came off at you specifically wrt the rehash. it was intended to be about the clique and how it was hardly inclusive. also, sue did not have an attitude that day; she had strep throat (didn't know it until monday night though). by the time we got home her temp was up to 103.
I can see him now....
I got a piercing, wanna see??
 you would think he'd stand up and say she did the best she could, but nothing.
Here is the issue I have with that. It is not ANYBODY's responsibility to stand up for anybody other then themselves.  People in here are adults and can make a decision to chime into a conversation or not chime in. It doesnt say anything about anything for him not posting.  NOONE should be criticized for what they choose to say and not say!!
and tim, sue apologizes that that came off at you specifically wrt the rehash. it was intended to be about the clique and how it was hardly inclusive.
apology accepted, and I knew thats what she was talking about I just wanted to make sure so we could clear it up because it's pretty silly to take a shot about someone buying their friends tiaras. to think it was a shot at sue was also silly but if she had just responded to my questioning and said that, or egrammed me it, I could have cleared it up and averted a crisis.
hey look! CREDIT!
after all, being a partner in this you would think he'd stand up and say she did the best she could, but nothing.
so now I'm a partner? 30 minutes ago I was just the guy who glued the face on the dummy and sent the packages late.
As far as doing nothing.....We'll just nevermind the two hours I spent trying to clear things up with her this morning. She even stated she understood that the Tiara thing wasn't directed at her. Now all teh sudden we forget that?
OTS Coolertimes: I understand
OTS Coolertimes: She understands
OTS Coolertimes: others do
OTS Coolertimes: some don't
SusieC1313: I am glad that the tiaras werent a dig
OTS Coolertimes: No
SusieC1313: that was important
OTS Coolertimes: and i'm glad that you know that
OTS Coolertimes: If you haven't slogged then you have missed quite alot of silly stuff
SusieC1313: you know
SusieC1313: I ignore most of it
SusieC1313: lol
OTS Coolertimes: I could tell ;-)
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My point, if I remember since that was like 5 HOURS AGO, was that the Zeph thing seemed cliquey to me.
how so? no one ever expressed any interest in helping with it. even the night at the buttery when we heard the vulcans were gonna show up, no one wanted to come along with to go get him, with the much appreciated exception of mr. muzik.
Then an egram happened. (NOT BLAMING YOU OTS)
he's the one that made it public, not her.
TC is a nice person, but that egram to OTiS was extremely unfriendly, to be polite. (look fast, people! I'm being polite!!!) :)
and there does exist a right to be impolite and unfriendly. but that egram shouldhave stayed just that.
so now I'm a partner? 30 minutes ago I was just the guy who glued the face on the dummy and sent the packages late.
that was the original intent if i remember correctly.
and there does exist a right to be impolite and unfriendly. but that egram should have stayed just that.
And at the same time you think you have the right to tell me when I should or shouldn't speak up?
I would also like to chime in...
And at the same time you think you have the right to tell me when I should or shouldn't speak up?
did anyone tell you not to speak up? no. i said that those who did nothing to/for a cause have no right to bitch about how said cause got implemented. to paraphrase your own words, otis, said people have two things to do/say. leave, or say thank you.
you still haven't addressed this either:
What purpose does that serve, OTS? Why do you need to do that?
[Edited by on Feb 10, 2005 at 04:15pm.]
I am taking a leave of absence from the group and maybe when all is said and done we can all be friends...but it's sad...so sad.:(
Until next year people. Take care
so I googled civilized and suprisingly no pictures of this group came up...weird...but this did!!
I'm not going to go one about this nonsense anymore.
You honestly thing I'm going to spend my time justifing to you or anyone else what I choose to say or not say? TC was getting into a war of words about nonsense that we have already covered concerning the Tiaras and the opinions of other Cooler Heads.
Why did I post that Egram? Because I want everyone to see the whole picture.
I speak up when I have something to say. What I said for 2 hours was said beyond the PF. It was said between TC and myself.
But to me trying to take credit? yes of course... You must be right.... I'm sure you could see it the whole time! All I did the last two weeks was run around and try to take credit for Zeph. You can see that everywhere I've been.
In fact I invite anyone here to post examples of me doing just that.
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Everything I have ever done here has been for the crew.
TC wasn't mad about just the Tiaras:
She was upset about the small groups that form within the crew.
She was still upset that Coolertimes in her eyes competes with Coolercrew.com and that I was running around promoting my site everywhere.
She was upset because she felt that the newer members of the Crew were trying to make to many changes here without considering the feelings of those who have set up what we have this present day.
She was upset that Pay Me and I didn't offer to take orders on the new hats we wore to the PDG prior to getting them made.
She was upset about the crew discussion the possiblilty of a new Logo considering the work and money me2 had spent working on the scarfs this year.
These are all things I spent time talking to her about. These are all the things she was upset about.
I understand that people are pissed that I posted it. THX can remove it if he chooses at anytime. But if you think you can discount what we have done for Zeph and think I'm not going to share it after that little speech you gave when you informed us that TC was gone for good you are out of your mind.
so I googled pissed and again, surprisingly, didn't find a picture of the group, but did find this. I thought randy would appreciate it!
suisare
what does suisare mean?
Mikey, I believe they call that cockblocking.......
Single guys like myself deal with it on a regular basis.
[Edited by on Feb 10, 2005 at 05:04pm.]
The St. Paul Winter Carnival today immediately suspended the Vulcan Krewe and its king, Tom Trudeau, from all activities as the result of a criminal sexual molestation investigation by St. Paul Police.
Robert Viking, president and CEO of the St. Paul Festival and Heritage Foundation, which operates the carnival, said that the carnival board will also consider permanent bans on pub crawling by the Vulcans and eliminating the garter and pinning rituals.
St. Paul police are investigating complaints that on the evening of Feb. 1, Trudeau and other Vulcans were at Alary's Bar, 139 E. 7th St., where they come each year to perform "the garter ritual" in which the Vulcan King places a garter halfway up the thigh of a female bartender's leg, bar owner Albert Baisi told police.
Three female bartenders allege, however, that Trudeau shocked and offended them by jabbing the crotches of two of them, then placing his hands under their clothing and touching their breasts, according to the complaint.
The third woman told police that the Vulcan King poked her in the breast with his finger and later grabbed the back of her shorts and pulled them up.
The carnival's Protocol and Exchange committee met on Wednesday and approved a number of recommendations from Viking. Among them: Granting a voluntary leave of absence to Trudeau. Viking said Trudeau will be on leave until the case is concluded.
The committee also suspended Vulcans from official appearances and prohibited them from wearing their running suits and paraphernalia pending further review by the panel and the foundation's board of directors.
The carnival also plans to establish a review panel to examine the Vulcan Krewe and their practices in order to bring them into line with "community standards," Viking said.
I second that Jake!