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Terry

Too flipping funny, Kitch!
Wed, 09/27/2006 - 8:54 AM Permalink
KITCH

its true!!!
Wed, 09/27/2006 - 9:14 AM Permalink
me2

sorry, I was running out the door, typing it quickly, soooo I can see how I could easily forget who I am.:eyeroll: :confused:

It's for meeeeeeee you goof

just for you.....

"from, me2" :ooh: :sheepish:
Wed, 09/27/2006 - 4:30 PM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

Ask Kitch Anything



Are you running for Prez of MnGCA ??

Thu, 09/28/2006 - 8:29 PM Permalink
KITCH

better NOT BE!!!!

:chagrin: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
Thu, 09/28/2006 - 8:31 PM Permalink
Pay Me

How come people in MN play duck duck grey duck and people in the rest of the country play duck duck goose?
Fri, 09/29/2006 - 5:24 AM Permalink
KITCH

nice Question!!!

I hope I can get to the bottom of this one....
Fri, 09/29/2006 - 5:30 AM Permalink
Clue Master

I'm sure it's along the same lines as pop/soda. We're just weird that way. Some might say we're 'special' :chagrin:
Fri, 09/29/2006 - 5:32 AM Permalink
KITCH

A regional variant of this game, "Duck Duck Gray Duck", is played in the north central part of the United States, specifically Southern Minnesota/Twin Cities and surrounding areas, and is considered a cultural marker for that region. The game dates back to the early 1900's, the first recorded playing of the alternative was at Madison School in Minneapolis, where teacher Paul Connaker (October 25, 1883) used the alternative version of the game. Two versions of the regional rules exist. In the first, the "picker" will describe the "ducks" as different colors or adjectives — for example, "blue duck, white duck, lazy duck". It's more of an educational game than an alteration of the "original", in that one not only recites colors, but also tries to say "gray duck" as casually as possible, hoping to deceive the gray duck and gain time (a technique that is less successful in the classic version). The second version is played exactly as the original, with the picker saying "grey duck" instead of "goose".

wow...
Fri, 09/29/2006 - 5:32 AM Permalink
Clue Master

interesting
Fri, 09/29/2006 - 5:37 AM Permalink
KITCH

At cambridge we used all the colors...

gray was the color of a goose...

but I'm still diggin' for more info...
Fri, 09/29/2006 - 5:43 AM Permalink
KITCH

all I know is this....the next time I in a war...and some spy say ...I'm from MINNESOTA...

I'm going to say....well...what comes after DUCK DUCK???

I'll know if he's tellin' the truth or not!!!
Fri, 09/29/2006 - 5:50 AM Permalink
KITCH

oh my god...cheeseheads call drinking fountains "bubblers" ...

......drunks.....hahahahaha
Fri, 09/29/2006 - 5:53 AM Permalink
Love4Vino

I dunno, but I learned it the MN way the summer I was 3 or 4, and then came home here, and got told my the kids, that's NOT how you play.

Now I'm a switch hitter in my duck duck games.
Fri, 09/29/2006 - 8:09 AM Permalink
Love4Vino

steeler fans do to.
Fri, 09/29/2006 - 8:16 AM Permalink
me2

Is this true?

Cindy & Chavez

Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

Venezuela government is sole owner of Citgo gasoline company

Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S. government. Chavez, president of Venezuela, told a TV audience: "Enough of imperialist aggression; we must tell the world: down with the U.S. empire. We have to bury imperialism this century."

The guest on his television program, beamed across Venezuela, was Cindy Sheehan, the antiwar activist. Chavez recently had as his guest Harry Belafonte, who called President Bush "the greatest terrorist in the world."

Chavez is pushing a socialist revolution and has a close alliance with Cuban dictator Fidel Castro.

Regardless of your feelings about the war in Iraq, the issue here is that we have a socialist dictator vowing to bring down the government of the U.S. And he is using our money to achieve his goal!

The Venezuela government, run by dictator Chavez, is the sole owner of Citgo gas company. Sales of products at Citgo stations send money back to Chavez to help him in his vow to bring down our government.

Take Action

Please decide that you will not be shopping at a Citgo station. Why should U.S. citizens who love freedom be financing a dictator who has vowed to take down our government?

Very important. Please forward this to your friends and family. Most of them don't know that Citgo is owned by the Venezuela government.



YOU CAN VERIFY THIS ON THE CITGO WEB PAGE.
http://www.citgo.com/AboutCITGO.jsp
Fri, 09/29/2006 - 7:55 PM Permalink
Clue Master

I heard that on the CBS Evening News a few days ago. They say it's more of a threat than one would think.
Fri, 09/29/2006 - 9:25 PM Permalink
KITCH

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_citgo_boycott.htm

Netlore Archive: Email flier urges Americans to boycott Venezuela-owned Citgo gas stations in response to anti-U.S. statements made by Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez

Description: Email flier

Circulating since: Jan. 2006

Analysis: See below

Variant #1:

Email example contributed by Roger C., 11 February 2006:

Subject: Citgo gas

We must not buy from Citgo anymore! Americans can put a chokehold on this despot by cutting off this major money source... yet again, it's time to take action!!! I did check this and it does appear to be true.

Butch

Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

Venezuela government is sole owner of Citgo gasoline company

Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S. government. Chavez, president of Venezuela, told a TV audience: "Enough of imperialist aggression; we must tell the world: down with the U.S. empire. We have to bury imperialism this century."

The guest on his television program, beamed across Venezuela, was Cindy Sheehan, the antiwar activist. Chavez recently had as his guest Harry Belafonte, who called President Bush "the greatest terrorist in the world."

Chavez is pushing a socialist revolution and has a close alliance with Cuban dictator Fidel Castro.

Regardless of your feelings about the war in Iraq, the issue here is that we have a socialist dictator vowing to bring down the government of the U.S. And he is using our money to achieve his goal!

The Venezuela government, run by dictator Chavez, is the sole owner of Citgo gas company. Sales of products at Citgo stations send money back to Chavez to help him in his vow to bring down our government.

Take Action

Please decide that you will not be shopping at a Citgo station. Why should U.S. citizens who love freedom be financing a dictator who has vowed to take down our government?

Very important. Please forward this to your friends and family. Most of them don't know that Citgo is owned by the Venezuela government.

Thanks for caring enough to get involved.

Variant #2:

Email example contributed by Elna S., 21 February 2006:

CHECK THIS OUT!

Cindy Sheehan and Hugo Chavez

Cindy Sheehan & Chavez

Venezuela Dictator Vows to Bring Down U.S. Government

Venezuela government is sole owner of Citgo gasoline company

Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S. government. Chavez, president of Venezuela, told a TV audience: "Enough of imperialist aggression; we must tell the world: down with the U.S. empire. We have to bury imperialism this century."

The guest on his television program, beamed across Venezuela, was Cindy Sheehan, the antiwar activist. Chavez recently had as his guest Harry Belafonte, who called President Bush "the greatest terrorist in the world."

Chavez is pushing a socialist revolution and has a close alliance with Cuban dictator Fidel Castro.

Regardless of your feelings about the war in Iraq, the issue here is that we have a socialist dictator vowing to bring down the government of the U.S. And he is using our money to achieve his goal!

The Venezuela government, run by dictator Chavez, sole owner of Citgo gas co. Sales of products at Citgo stations send money back to Chavez to help him in his vow to bring down our government.

Take Action

Please decide that you will not be shopping at a Citgo station. Why should U.S. citizens who love freedom be financing a dicator who has vowed to take down our government?

Very important. Please forward this to your friends and family. Most of them don't know that Citgo is owned by the Venezuela government.

Comments: Is it just me, or has this whole notion of trying to punish countries and companies we don't like by boycotting their products at the gas pump reached the pinnacle of absurdity?

In the present case we are asked to eschew gasoline from Citgo, a subsidiary of Venezuela's state-owned petroleum company, because that nation's president has made anti-American statements. Sounds straightforward enough, but another very popular email flier says we shouldn't buy gas from the Middle East because terrorists come from that region (in fact, Citgo is named as a preferred alternative to these brands). Yet another forwarded message calls for a one-day boycott of all brands of gasoline to let OPEC know we're fed up with inflated prices. What's a consumer to do?

About Poll

Did this email convince you to boycott Citgo gasoline?

Yes.

No.

Undecided.

Current Results

Further confusing the issue is the fact that most of these companies import crude oil from more than one region, they trade supplies back and forth to meet demand, and they share pipelines as it suits them -- meaning, ultimately, that no matter where you buy your gas, you can never really be sure what country it came from. Case in point: According to U.S. Department of Energy records for 2005, BP, Chevron, Conoco, Exxon Mobil, and Valero, to name but a few, all bought crude oil imported from Venezuela.

The upshot? By all means, boycott Citgo gasoline if your conscience moves you to, but keep in mind that if you continue to use gasoline at all, whatever the brand, you can't help but put money in Hugo Chavez's pocket.

Q & A: Where did this message come from?

It was originally issued in January 2006 as an "action alert" by the American Family Association, a conservative Christian group.

Is it true that Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez vowed on television to "bring down the U.S. government"?

That depends on how one interprets his actual televised words, "Enough of imperialist aggression; we must tell the world: down with the U.S. empire. We have to bury imperialism this century."

Arguably, when Chavez said "down with the U.S. empire," he was referring to U.S. foreign policy, not the country itself. This is standard far-left rhetoric, and was certainly interpreted as such by the mainstream press. AP characterized the speech as an invective against "U.S. dominance," for example. Reuters described it as a campaign against "U.S. free-market policies in South America."

In any case, while it is crystal clear that Chavez hates the United States government, his statements fell well short of a declaration of war.

Was anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan present when Chavez made the speech?

Yes. The photograph above showing the two standing arm-in-arm was distributed by Reuters. Both Sheehan and Chavez made statements from the podium criticizing President Bush and the U.S. presence in Iraq.

Did Harry Belafonte also make a TV appearance with Chavez during which the entertainer called President Bush "the greatest terrorist in the world"?

Yes, on January 8, 2006.

Is Chavez an ally of Fidel Castro, and is he "pushing a socialist revolution"?

Yes, and yes.

Is Hugo Chavez a "dictator"?

Here we have another exercise in semantics. Based on a survey of published mentions of the Venezuelan leader, it appears the way one answers this question depends upon one's political bias. Though Chavez was democratically elected -- twice -- and continues to be regarded as a populist visionary by leftist supporters inside and outside Venezuela, right-of-center detractors tend to use words like "strongman," "on the road to becoming a dictator," and just plain "dictator" to describe him. U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld compared Chavez to Hitler; televangelist Pat Robertson actually called for his assassination. At the other extreme, certified lefties like Cindy Sheehan and Harry Belafonte have praised Chávez for "supporting life and peace." Go figure.

Is Citgo owned by the Venezuelan government?

Yes.

Can American consumers avoid contributing dollars to Venezuela's treasury by boycotting Citgo gasoline?

Not entirely. See above.
Sat, 09/30/2006 - 5:14 AM Permalink
KITCH

hmmmm....its a CHAIN EMAIL...must be true :wink:
Sat, 09/30/2006 - 5:24 AM Permalink
Clue Master

What's missing?

Sat, 09/30/2006 - 6:45 AM Permalink
Clue Master

That's right...

Sat, 09/30/2006 - 6:45 AM Permalink
me2

aaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwww, arn't you two the cutest couple
Sun, 10/01/2006 - 9:45 AM Permalink
me2

tonight on the Simpsons is the duck duck goose episode. The writers are obviously NOT from Minnesota
Sun, 10/01/2006 - 3:00 PM Permalink
Love4Vino

I met this guy at the harvest awards that just moved here from MN Sat night.. after I learned he was from home, my first question was:

Duck duck goose or Duck duck grey duck?

he is a grey duck kinda guy.
Mon, 10/02/2006 - 9:13 AM Permalink
Love4Vino

do you know about this? Light Brigade Society

The BF and some of his buddies are forming a Sacramento Chapter.
Wed, 10/04/2006 - 10:44 AM Permalink
Love4Vino

omg... a quote from their rules

Women: Since the presence of “fair sex” has a soothing effect on the male beast and is found to be simulating and occasionally elevating, women may, from time to time, be allowed to attend Society events at the special invitation of The Society’s Membership. It is best, however, if they are seated at a separate table. We ask only that they take pity on our wretched souls.
Wed, 10/04/2006 - 10:46 AM Permalink
Liquor Lady

Only manly food and drink should be served.

so I guess they don't serve wieners?
Wed, 10/04/2006 - 10:53 AM Permalink
Love4Vino

Irish whiskey and manly red meats are what's going to be served at the Sacramento Chartering.

eyeroll.

I guess what I find funny is, these 'light brigade' guys in Wisconsin have never seen a twenty-thirtian party. if they had, they'd change the rules to:

Women are allowed, and more so encouraged to attend cause typically where there is women and alcohol there is sheding of clothing.
Wed, 10/04/2006 - 11:16 AM Permalink
diggin4it

ask any of the Mn Vikings!
Wed, 10/04/2006 - 11:57 AM Permalink
Love4Vino

true that!
Wed, 10/04/2006 - 12:29 PM Permalink
KITCH

HMM

ACCORDING TO MY MANLAW...NEVER BE INVOVLED IN SOMTHING THAT STARTS WITH "LIGHT"

OR IF THEY LIKE POEMS

WEIRD...i'LL LOOK INTO IT 2NITE
Wed, 10/04/2006 - 12:41 PM Permalink
Love4Vino

This maybe more of an Ask KCO thing - sounds like he would be into this.

if Potassium Bicarbonate is K2C03 ...

what is Potassium Chloride, POTASSIUM BENZOATE, POTASSIUM METABISULFITE, POTASSIUM CHLORIDE, POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE and POTASSIUM SORBATE ???

And do you have a good link to looking these up.
Tue, 10/10/2006 - 11:42 AM Permalink
Love4Vino

nevermind.. wikipedia is my new bestest friend.
Tue, 10/10/2006 - 12:00 PM Permalink
KC0GRN

wikipedia is better than google.. I just hope google doesn't buy them out too :chagrin:
Tue, 10/10/2006 - 12:12 PM Permalink
Love4Vino

And I now know more than I ever wanted to on the the difference of Potassium Carbonate and Potassium BICarbonate.

bleech. my brain hurts.
Tue, 10/10/2006 - 12:17 PM Permalink
KITCH

:neutral:
Tue, 10/10/2006 - 2:04 PM Permalink
me2

supposedly you can't believe EVERYTHING on wikipedia - but most of it ....

because people can add and take away information to topics - so if you know more to a subject than you can add to it.

Theres an actual geek squad that polices wikipedia to make sure things are correct and people arn't messing it up too bad---

what a fun job-
Tue, 10/10/2006 - 7:07 PM Permalink
KITCH

<--has changed a few things...

such as did you know that WTH was first said by CLUEMASTER?
Tue, 10/10/2006 - 7:33 PM Permalink
zephyrus

message deleted due to making myself look really stupid... :sheepish: :sheepish:
Tue, 10/10/2006 - 8:27 PM Permalink
zephyrus

had I read this prior to choosing my on-line alias... I would have named my self fuzzy-bunny

West Wind

Zephyrus and Hyacinth, from an attic red-figure cup from Tarquinia, c. 480 BC

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Zephyrus and Hyacinth, from an attic red-figure cup from Tarquinia, c. 480 BC

Zephyrus, or just Zephyr, in the original Greek Zephuros (Ζέφυρος), was the Greek god of the west wind. The gentlest of the winds, Zephyrus is known as the fructifying wind, the messenger of spring. It was thought that Zephyrus lived in a cave in Thrace.

Zephyrus was reported as having several wives in different stories. He was said to be the husband of his sister Iris, the goddess of the rainbow. He abducted another of his sisters, the goddess Chloris, and gave her the domain of flowers. With Chloris, he fathered Carpus ("fruit"). He is said to have vied for Chloris's love with his brother Boreas, eventually winning her devotion. Additionally, with yet another sister and lover, the harpy Podarge (also known as Celaeno), Zephyrus was said to be the father of Balius and Xanthus, Achilles' horses.

One of the surviving myths in which Zephyrus features most prominently is that of Hyacinth. Hyacinth was a very handsome and athletic Spartan prince. Zephyrus fell in love with him and courted him (see also: Mythology of same-sex love), and so did Apollo. The two competed for the boy's love, but he chose Apollo, driving Zephyrus mad with jealousy. Later, catching Apollo and Hyacinthus throwing a discus, Zephyrus blew a gust of wind at them, striking the boy in the head with the falling discus. When Hyacinth died, Apollo created the hyacinth flower from his blood.[2]

In the story of Cupid and Psyche, Zephyrus served Cupid by transporting Psyche to his cave.





Zephyrus' Roman equivalent was Favonius, who held dominion over plants and flowers. The name Favonius, which meant "favorable", was also a common Roman name.

---Just remember the many wives part, and forget the whole same sex thingy...
Tue, 10/10/2006 - 8:30 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Um Sorry bud!! But I was the first to coin the WTF acronym not WTH. Although it was printed earlier, those misinformed geeks must have edited that true information because of some other misinformed geek. I have posting proof that no one can deny.

God Damn Nerds! :angry:
Tue, 10/10/2006 - 8:31 PM Permalink
diggin4it

OMG - glad I've been so busy working in my laboratory and didn't try to explain it 4 u....

:eyeroll:
Tue, 10/10/2006 - 8:46 PM Permalink
Love4Vino

heh. I know how all those things are used IN wine, however individual info about them, I had no clue.

I'm glad the project is over. I spent most of yesterday evening, researching the differences of flavoring extracts based on batch number.

bleech.
Wed, 10/11/2006 - 9:42 AM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

bleech.

That's it. If there's bleech in wine, I ain't gettin' it enny mo'
Thu, 10/12/2006 - 12:02 AM Permalink
Love4Vino

there is a lot of things in wine - you don't want to know about...
Thu, 10/12/2006 - 9:22 AM Permalink
KC0GRN



And they wonder why I'm not a big fan of drinking :wink:
Thu, 10/12/2006 - 9:27 AM Permalink