fyi, the whole tiara thing is such a damn joke its not even funny. the tiara was discussed in a private conversation taking up about a paragraph that tc had with otis and dropped. i brought it up later on in that thread, and retracted it when tc corrected me as to the scope of her conversation. you guys used enough of your own quotes from that thread to piss of an army of people. this is about those.
Terry, she is a source of wisdom, and is the preverbial cooler crew mother figure.
What wisdom?!?!? Not to put the medallion back?!?!? Too funny.
As a proverbial mother figure - really???
I guess I'll take that mother role and ask that everyone try to find some common ground here and make an effort to get along.
We are hunters first and foremost as that what brought us together. We don't have to agree with each other nor do we have to like each other. But I will strongly advocate for everyone to be civil tongued and courteous with one another.
I have considered all of you my friends - or at least acquaintances that I enjoy spending some time with. With any large group, there are those I spend more time with simply because I share more commonalities with - be it interests outside of the hunt, or whatever else floats my boat. I know that is true for all of you, too.
I don't give a rip about any breakfast club or any other private threads. If anyone chooses to create one for their closest circle of friends, so be it. Last I looked, it's a free country.
the cure cancer... not everyone needs to like you you little twit comments. The tiara is a non-issue. I was simply addressing your comments that my response to Tim's post was totally unnecessary... that was a direct response to someone who wants to aim a speech your direction and not be interested in your response. Just pointing out that I am about as interested in his opinions as he is in mine. You however in trying to defend him, pointed out that I crossed a line... and I was giving you an example of what I feel behavior that crosses a line is. It is not responding and being in an open dialogue it is going behind someones back and belittling them. Making fun of people in an open forum. That is unnecessary and uncalled for behavior in my book.
I have been working all day so I havent had much time to be on here. But it is a free country. Friends are friends. If we decide to get together in any fashion it is noones buisness...End of STORY!!!!
As for Nick, that did start out to be a civilized conversation. Everyone was sharing there opinions. It wasnt nasty. I know that there were strong feelings but it wasnt nasty. I went back to see when it turned sour. And that was when MM posted about the Breakfast Club threads. This is very sad to me. We were trying to be civil when this is brought up again. Our feelings on this matter are never going to change on both sides. We had a thread we have a thread whatever. Things were said feelings were hurt. I got it. But it wasnt meant for you. And honestly this will always be an issue. So what is the point of all this?
the point is... this is the same issue. It does affect the cooler crew. Everyone's argument was that nicks behavior was outside the cooler so therefor it shouldn't affect us in here and I am pointing out to you that it is unrealistic to think that something that is connected in any way to the cooler is separate and outside. It isn't.
it comes down to the you don't matter comment which comes across loud and clear. What Tmk and Coco went through matters to me. They matter to me. I am sorry that Nick was banned but as far as I can see that was his own doing. I simply don't think she should have to suffer the presence of someone who worked so hard to make her life here miserable. The whole bc issue is just an illustration. Not trying to change anything... and anyway... water over the bridge. I have tried to act toward everyone on here with civility since the unfortunate blow up and hope to continue to do so. But I hope we learned something.
Tim, I have to give you some kudos for your speech/point. It's actually one of the best paragraph's I've seen you compose so far. The crew to me, is a place to hang out, with other people who like the same thing I do... hunting the medallion. It's not hard for everyone to get along, and there's no reason why everyone can't. I'm not saying that everyone has to be buddy buddy, but the put downs, bashing, ect, it's gotta stop. We're all adults here, but lately, it's all been like a trip back to highschool. Look, I have no beef with the BC. The only reason I got upset was because I was one of the people who was talked about. That hurt me because I'm the type of person who trys to be nice/friends with everyone. I treat people the way that I want to be treated, and yes, maybe it is too much, but I do expect the same. I don't want to be judged for stupid stuff. I don't "hate" anyone. Yeah, I may disagree with a lot of things that people say, but I don't dislike anyone of you for it. It has come to the point that my comfort level here is very low, which was why I decided to start the Puck Posse folder. It wasn't meant as anything but something fun, away from all of the drama. Please guys, lets just stop this ok? Let by gones be by gones? I'm tired of all of the fighting. I'm a very sensitive person,and maybe I shouldn't take any of this personal, but I do. Noone likes to be talked about, especially be hind their backs. I just have one thing to say to anyone who has any issues with me, please, come to me about it, don't go behind my back. As far as anything else, I have no issues. Have your secret threads, I don't care, but if word ever gets out again that things are being said about people, you can't expect those people to NOT be mad, because if the tables were turned, you'd be upset too, especially if were people u thought were your friends. Life is too short to fight, ect. I learned that when I lost my son,and that's why I say that I don't want to bicker any more. From here out, everyone has a clean slate with me, and I'm hoping that people will do the same for me. And that's all I have to say. Sorry for the long post.
Ok, I just got off the phone with Dan's mom. His grandmother has developed Pneumonia. This is a normal complication for a woman of her age. They are controlling the fever and are trying to get her to cough some of the icky stuff up to get it out of her. They have also run cultures to confirm this. She will be in the hospital at least tonight!
facts were given, information has been provided, decisions were made and remade.
i'm sorry for the horrible disgust this has caused.
G said to stay and be the bigger man and i thank her for the support, but i have to disagree...to be the bigger woman i am leaving.
some people have recently proven to me how much more there is in life and this isn't worth it to me.
nick knows what he did and can lie all he wants. i was shown the proof and that's all i needed to see. i can't be here because of it. i just can't. bye.
heh - I just deleted a very long story about a rabbit and a drunk teenager both hiding in my woods. It was interesting. Especially for 3am. That's all. Ali is still up with her friend for her first sleepover right now. Back to the fire. Later
Has anyone had contact with Jackie and Trent? I was under the impression a DVD would be available this fall. I was hoping to buy several and use as Christmas gifts for family members.
Just saw Belinda Jensen on Kare11 at Linder's. They are going to broadcast the lighting there during their 6pm newscast. They mentioned the arrival of Santa, also, but of course, didn't show him.
The family was over today and the garage door is installed and the entry door. Almost done painting. I just want one more decent day to finish that job. One of my daughters and I spent 2 1/2 hours at Home Depot buying and cutting mill work for the job. Needed sofit material and trim for around the doors. Took them all to Gallagher's in WSP for dinner and just got home. It's been a long day! They come back tomorrow to put up storms and take out A/C. Almost time to hibernate.
Naw. I'm busy with other stuff, just surfing here to see what people post. I have a feeling things will get worked out. The cooler will still go on. I hope that people can realize that the spirit of the cooler can overcome personal strife.
I've been busy this weekend. I'll only be on for a few minutes this morning.
Seems there's two issues right now
1) Those that think I can't have a thread to chat with my friends. Well they can eat shit and die. My thread is no different to me than those complainers picking up a phone and inviting their friends to the opening of Star Wars. Or e-mailing them about their attic. Or when they e-gram each other about how work was or how their LOMA test went, (and FYI I see their damn names popping up and down the who's here list all the time, without any posts happening, and it's fucking hypocritical!). Basically, it's all just different ways of contacting/communicating with people from within here.
2) Nick should or shouldn't be let back in. As much as what I think Nick did was shitty, and he's in complete denial about it, we had no rules in place and I don't believe we should be implementing Ex Post Facto rules. It didn't matter in the end for me, because I recused myself from voting, and I'm no longer a moderator.
On a personal note, I got shit from all over the place this week. I got it from my friends in the Breakfast Club, I got it from the original Puck Posse, the Cooler Crew, I even got it from my own wife. Point being, you can't make everyone happy. There's just no way. There's too many diverse personalities.
That's cool. I love you all for different reasons.
For the record THX, I never said that you shouldn't have your thread, I just want to make that clear. I KNOW that none of what was said in that thread was supposed to get out. BUT it did, and it was really hurtful to some people, and not so much to others. I know you've apologized for it, which is great. People need to "vent" I completely understand that. But being adults, we have to set an example, wether there's kids around or not, and if there's not, it's good practice. Saying hurtful stuff... about people that you don't even know, is not setting a good example, and I'm not just pointing the finger at you, I'm also pointing it at myself. I'm just as guilty as anyone else. I didn't realize that until just recently. I guess the whole reason why it took me so long to realize it is because I'm trying to become a parent. This probably sounds stupid to you, but I'm trying to type it so it makes sense to other people, including myself.
I love the crew, I love what it stands for. I love the fact that a crazy group of people like us can get together and have a kick ass time in the middle of the winter, in the freezing cold, looking for a medallion!! I love the fact that I can make new friends, because that's how I am, I consider most everyone a friend. I try to be friends with everyone because that's just my nature. I'm not expecting everyone to like me, what I do expect is at least everyone to give me a chance before they pass judgment.
I'll admit, my comfort level here has dropped a lot, I've actually considered not being part of the crew any more. As you said, you've got a lot of shit going on in your personal life, well you're not the only one and I KNOW I'm not the only one. To me, this all seems like a trip back to highschool, and I out grew that almost 10 yrs ago, although I'm just as guilty as the rest for taking a trip back as well. I'll be the first one to stand up and admit that.
I think you're a really cool guy, and I totally respect that you really don't give a rats ass about what people think/say about you. I wish I was thick skinned, unfortunately, I'm not. I don't hate anyone, hate is too strong of a word and life's too short for that. I dislike a lot of things that go on around here, but hell, I'm just a little pee on, most of the time what ever I say gets overlooked anyways!! LOL
I respect everyone's beliefs. I think it's great that people can stand up for what they believe in, wether it's wrong or it's right. It takes a lot of guts to stand up and do that. Those of you that have, I give U all kudos. Anyways, Sorry for the long speech, I just wanted to say something to hopefully clear some things up. I apologize if I've annoyed anyone, I'm just kinda long winded tdy. **peace**
Things that are said privately - be it a private forum, private conversation in whatever form should be kept private.
Things that are part of a more public conversation or forum should be respectful to others.
We won't and don't always agree. If you don't agree with me...that's okay. If I don't agree with you...that's okay too. But I will disagree in a way that is as respectful to others' opinion and others' right to that opinion as I can possibly be and expect the same consideration from others.
I want to thank you for your time and efforts moderating these forums both here and at PF. In my opinion, you have done a great job at being as fair as you could possibly be and made decisions that were not always easy to make.
In making those decisions, there were people who disagreed at times, but I know you never made those decisions lightly.
Now that you have retired from the moderator role, I hope you enjoy just being one of the Crew without all the headaches.
What wisdom?!?!? Not to put the medallion back?!?!? Too funny.
As a proverbial mother figure - really???
I guess I'll take that mother role and ask that everyone try to find some common ground here and make an effort to get along.
We are hunters first and foremost as that what brought us together. We don't have to agree with each other nor do we have to like each other. But I will strongly advocate for everyone to be civil tongued and courteous with one another.
I have considered all of you my friends - or at least acquaintances that I enjoy spending some time with. With any large group, there are those I spend more time with simply because I share more commonalities with - be it interests outside of the hunt, or whatever else floats my boat. I know that is true for all of you, too.
I don't give a rip about any breakfast club or any other private threads. If anyone chooses to create one for their closest circle of friends, so be it. Last I looked, it's a free country.
I have been working all day so I havent had much time to be on here. But it is a free country. Friends are friends. If we decide to get together in any fashion it is noones buisness...End of STORY!!!!
As for Nick, that did start out to be a civilized conversation. Everyone was sharing there opinions. It wasnt nasty. I know that there were strong feelings but it wasnt nasty. I went back to see when it turned sour. And that was when MM posted about the Breakfast Club threads. This is very sad to me. We were trying to be civil when this is brought up again. Our feelings on this matter are never going to change on both sides. We had a thread we have a thread whatever. Things were said feelings were hurt. I got it. But it wasnt meant for you. And honestly this will always be an issue. So what is the point of all this?
once upon a time this showed up in your tagline: Not everyone is going to be your friend, grow up and deal with it you little twit
wait wait wait. don't. i don't care.
I will now go act like the hurt puppy you want me to be and tuck my tail between my legs. I have work to do.
And I'll stay the hell out of this thread until everyone realizes they're mature adults and GETS OVER IT. myself included.
and thanks, terry.
When Ares and TC were talking to TMK and COCO about nick to form opinions about the situation did you do it here in the threads?
Or was that done elsewhere away from other peoples ears?
as a matter of fact, i can.
now I have a car full of frozen garbage every year, just to prevent a repeat of the earmuf incident.
i'm sorry for the horrible disgust this has caused.
G said to stay and be the bigger man and i thank her for the support, but i have to disagree...to be the bigger woman i am leaving.
some people have recently proven to me how much more there is in life and this isn't worth it to me.
nick knows what he did and can lie all he wants. i was shown the proof and that's all i needed to see. i can't be here because of it. i just can't. bye.
It's a sad world we live in people.
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some good news!
Any news about this?
I just know Santa Dave is loving all this.
Seems like the end of the cooler to me. :frown:
Seems there's two issues right now
1) Those that think I can't have a thread to chat with my friends. Well they can eat shit and die. My thread is no different to me than those complainers picking up a phone and inviting their friends to the opening of Star Wars. Or e-mailing them about their attic. Or when they e-gram each other about how work was or how their LOMA test went, (and FYI I see their damn names popping up and down the who's here list all the time, without any posts happening, and it's fucking hypocritical!). Basically, it's all just different ways of contacting/communicating with people from within here.
2) Nick should or shouldn't be let back in. As much as what I think Nick did was shitty, and he's in complete denial about it, we had no rules in place and I don't believe we should be implementing Ex Post Facto rules. It didn't matter in the end for me, because I recused myself from voting, and I'm no longer a moderator.
On a personal note, I got shit from all over the place this week. I got it from my friends in the Breakfast Club, I got it from the original Puck Posse, the Cooler Crew, I even got it from my own wife. Point being, you can't make everyone happy. There's just no way. There's too many diverse personalities.
That's cool. I love you all for different reasons.
Have a good day.
I love the crew, I love what it stands for. I love the fact that a crazy group of people like us can get together and have a kick ass time in the middle of the winter, in the freezing cold, looking for a medallion!! I love the fact that I can make new friends, because that's how I am, I consider most everyone a friend. I try to be friends with everyone because that's just my nature. I'm not expecting everyone to like me, what I do expect is at least everyone to give me a chance before they pass judgment.
I'll admit, my comfort level here has dropped a lot, I've actually considered not being part of the crew any more. As you said, you've got a lot of shit going on in your personal life, well you're not the only one and I KNOW I'm not the only one. To me, this all seems like a trip back to highschool, and I out grew that almost 10 yrs ago, although I'm just as guilty as the rest for taking a trip back as well. I'll be the first one to stand up and admit that.
I think you're a really cool guy, and I totally respect that you really don't give a rats ass about what people think/say about you. I wish I was thick skinned, unfortunately, I'm not. I don't hate anyone, hate is too strong of a word and life's too short for that. I dislike a lot of things that go on around here, but hell, I'm just a little pee on, most of the time what ever I say gets overlooked anyways!! LOL
I respect everyone's beliefs. I think it's great that people can stand up for what they believe in, wether it's wrong or it's right. It takes a lot of guts to stand up and do that. Those of you that have, I give U all kudos. Anyways, Sorry for the long speech, I just wanted to say something to hopefully clear some things up. I apologize if I've annoyed anyone, I'm just kinda long winded tdy. **peace**
if you don't want your feeling hurt, don't go reading shit that you weren't meant to see.
Things that are said privately - be it a private forum, private conversation in whatever form should be kept private.
Things that are part of a more public conversation or forum should be respectful to others.
We won't and don't always agree. If you don't agree with me...that's okay. If I don't agree with you...that's okay too. But I will disagree in a way that is as respectful to others' opinion and others' right to that opinion as I can possibly be and expect the same consideration from others.
I want to thank you for your time and efforts moderating these forums both here and at PF. In my opinion, you have done a great job at being as fair as you could possibly be and made decisions that were not always easy to make.
In making those decisions, there were people who disagreed at times, but I know you never made those decisions lightly.
Now that you have retired from the moderator role, I hope you enjoy just being one of the Crew without all the headaches.
Thanks again!