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2006 Pioneer Press Treasure Hunt

Submitted by THX 1138 on
OTiS

Yep, you can see your heart beating if you watch the sights.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 6:49 AM Permalink
OTiS

And I would love to hit a range with you sometime KITCH. JT and I have talked about going shooting as well but haven't found the time to do so just yet.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 6:50 AM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

bring steph, and promise her some burger king if she does well :wink:
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:16 AM Permalink
Pay Me

HAHA!!! I am a GREAT shot!
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:18 AM Permalink
OTiS

I wanna find a range that rents auto weapons as well.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:23 AM Permalink
Pay Me

I wanna learn to skeet shoot. Cause I dont want to kill anything.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:23 AM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

skeet is payme's nickname for medallion hunters that vensure into dan and I's medallion hunting territory.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:27 AM Permalink
Pay Me

you know it baby!
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:29 AM Permalink
OTiS

Bwaaaahhhhh
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:29 AM Permalink
THX 1138

A Coolerhead day at the gun range?
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:36 AM Permalink
THX 1138

You must be talking rifle with a scope, cuz that would be that best pattern ever for me and my 9mm.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:37 AM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

good morning uncle johnathan
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:37 AM Permalink
THX 1138

"Armored Fire" used to rent them, but they were bought by "Bills Guns". I don't know if they rent them or not. I'm guessing they do.

It's actually not all that fun. IMHO, not really worth the price.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:38 AM Permalink
THX 1138

Morning Timmers.

Thanks for the ride to Jimmy Johns.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:39 AM Permalink
Pay Me

Thanks for buying the boys their very first Jimmy Johns!!!
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:40 AM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

anytime fella!
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:41 AM Permalink
Pay Me

They dont ever eat!
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:44 AM Permalink
OTiS

No, standard rifle with dial and flip sights ~ no scope. Handguns are a whole other ball of wax for me.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:46 AM Permalink
THX 1138

No, standard rifle with dial and flip sights

I hate you.

I'm not going to the range with you! Or your wife for that matter. I heard she's a good shot!

:smile:
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:48 AM Permalink
Pay Me

hehe....I love when I start rumors about myself.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:49 AM Permalink
OTiS

Steph is a very good shot.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:50 AM Permalink
OTiS

Of course she was also her units machine gunner lol.

SO she was going to hit EVERYTHING she pointed the weapon at. :goofy:
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:50 AM Permalink
Pay Me

Bastard!

I can shoot a German rifle too!!! Those suckers will kick the shit out of your arm!
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:54 AM Permalink
OTiS

7.62 - Nato G-4 will beat the shit out of you while on skies atop the Doverfeld Glacier in Norway too. :eyeroll:
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:56 AM Permalink
OTiS

For JT-

The fundamentals of pistol marksmanship embrace all of those physical factors essential to the firing of an accurate shot. Accuracy, in this sense, assumes that the weapon is zeroed, that a high degree of inherent accuracy exists in both the weapon and the ammunition, and that the firing is taking place under ideal conditions.

Essentially, accurate shooting with a pistol requires no elements other than those described in the following sentence: ALIGN THE SIGHTS PROPERLY ON THAT PART OF THE TARGET REQUIRED FOR YOUR GROUP TO CENTER IN THE TARGET AREA AND CAUSE THE HAMMER TO FALL WITHOUT DISTURBING THAT ALIGNMENT. All elements of pistol shooting such as position, grip, sight alignment, breath control, trigger control, physical condition, and psychology of shooting, when perfected, simply enables the shooter to perform the action described in the above key sentence.

In order for a shot to be accurate, it is first necessary to make sure that the pistol will be held as motionless as it is possible to do so during the time that the shot is being fired. The stance assumed by the shooter must provide the greatest stability possible for both the shooter's body and the weapon.

To obtain a minimum arc of movement the shooter must give the pistol a definite stability of direction. Proper body position points the pistol directly toward the target with no tendency to drift or move to either side. Likewise, the vertical movement of the pistol is confined to the aiming area. Breathing is accompanied by the rhythmic movement of the chest, and in order to keep the pistol as immobile as possible the shooter must hold his breath for the length of time required to deliver an accurate shot. To obtain correct sight alignment, it is necessary for the shooter to grip the pistol in a manner which guarantees that he is holding the pistol firmly and that trigger pressure is applied straight to the rear. The delicate balance of sight alignment and minimum arc of movement can be easily disturbed if the trigger is activated in a manner which causes excess movement. However, since the shooter cannot achieve complete immobility when assuming the stance and position, the trigger has to be pressed during some movement of the pistol. In order to deliver an accurate shot within his ability to hold, the shooter must not only press the trigger evenly, but he must to so with correct sight alignment. The size of the shot group will, therefore, not exceed the dimensions of the arc of movement, provided the shot breaks as a surprise and no reflex action of muscles disturbs the delivery of the shot.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 7:56 AM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

TMI

:smile: :grin: :wink:
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 10:27 AM Permalink
East Side Digger

I want to go I want to go :cool:
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 11:27 AM Permalink
Redbear

I hate to ask a stupid question, but wasn't Steph a rifleperson in the army?

On the subject of range shooting, there's a place in Robbinsdale, called Bill's Gun Shop, that has a range in the basement. Pretty sure you can rent guns there.

--and I think wouldn't Robbinsdale be halfway between casa THX and Firestone?
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 9:10 PM Permalink
OTiS

Steph initially had an MOS for communications but she changed over to personnel.

But for her combat roll for the unit she would have been the machine gunner for her squad.

Robbinsdale is about 10 minutes from me on a good traffic day.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 9:20 PM Permalink
Redbear

well there you go then. a group outing.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 9:23 PM Permalink
OTiS

I think everyone would have a good time.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 9:40 PM Permalink
Redbear

From what I understand it's fairly pricey to shoot there if you don't have your own guns. I went for a demo day and paid just for ammo and got range time for free. Next one is this spring, I think.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 10:26 PM Permalink
Redbear

From my perspective, I'm an above average shot, and between the firestones, Kitch and ESD I'd be considered a really bad shot.
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 10:27 PM Permalink
OTiS

I've had bad days, good days and shit days :pbpt:

You can always blame the wind :cool:
Sat, 12/10/2005 - 10:53 PM Permalink
zephyrus

I know what you mean...When we were in Ft Hood, I qualified expert with 2 magazine malfunctions... And still got 37/40...

 We get to Iraq, and have stationary 25M targets, I didn't get all of the oil off of my barrel -so it starts smoking, the sun just crests the horizon right as I start my prone unsupported, long story short - I JUST made marksman... (Marksman is the lowest you can go)

I have good days and bad days too... I blame Kitch :pbpt:
Sun, 12/11/2005 - 7:54 AM Permalink
OTiS

Hopefully they let you qualify again before you had to wear your dress Zeph :pbpt:
Sun, 12/11/2005 - 10:08 AM Permalink
Pay Me

That story is very familiar. Dont go out drinking all night before going to the range for qualification. For some reason there is a chemical reaction included in your hangover which makes you miss your targets.
Sun, 12/11/2005 - 10:14 AM Permalink
OTiS

SOmething I always found funny was the ability for weapons to do over kill on themselves.

The M240 - Machine gun was just being issued to certain units when I was leaving the army. I don't remember the exact numbers but I think that it can send something like 1000 rounds downrange in the coure of a minute. But you have to change barrels out well before that so they don't warp and melt from the heat created.

Zeph? Did you mess with the 240 much outside the range? Know much about it's specs? Steph was qualified on the 60 but not the 240.
Sun, 12/11/2005 - 10:18 AM Permalink
Pay Me

I was in the process of qualifying on the 240 when I found out I was pregnant.
Sun, 12/11/2005 - 10:24 AM Permalink
zephyrus

I didn't mess with it at all myself, but we were issued I think 4 of them in Iraq. I believe it is after 100 continuous rounds, you change the barrel. Same or similar to the M60. I was on an M60 squad years ago, and the 240 was just a lighter, 1 man replacement for it. If anything it was to minimize the size of the gunner squad, and it is a more reliable less maintenance weapon.
Sun, 12/11/2005 - 11:15 AM Permalink
KC0GRN

what's all this shooting stuff have to do with the hunt? (Other than making me nervous about finding the medallion, I'll have to lay low and leave the park in a zigzag pattern so I'll make it out alive)
Sun, 12/11/2005 - 12:27 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

You can run but you will only die tired :cool:
Sun, 12/11/2005 - 3:02 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

Bill's rang would be about an hour and a half drive for me but I will still go :ooh:
Sun, 12/11/2005 - 3:03 PM Permalink
OT

I climbed that several times, me2. And yes, it was quite scary! In places the wooden slats would be missing and you'd see down to the ground and it was pretty high.
Sun, 12/11/2005 - 4:10 PM Permalink
OTiS

Spooky....
Sun, 12/11/2005 - 4:14 PM Permalink
KC0GRN

hey that reminds me me2, did you ever find out any info on the battle creek workhouse? I still gotta locate where the 57 medallion was.
Sun, 12/11/2005 - 5:32 PM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

I was looking at some old (I think?) topo maps of Battle Creek. What was Highwood Park? What was Totem Town?
Sun, 12/11/2005 - 6:15 PM Permalink