The Allison Wonderland

I have been looking at Phalen Park on Google maps street view for many days now and the only 'hill' I can see in that area is behind or on the south side of the Activities Center.

Clue 5 says "seek diamond in rough". Not *a* diamond, just "diamond". Well diamond is compressed carbon, specifically a C4 molecule. What if C4 is then a clue to the Civilian Conservation Corps Company momument?
David

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:19:36 AM CST, Archie Pickerign <acpickerign@...> wrote:

Agreed. Lots of crusty snow out here and a decent amount of ground to cover. As you say there’s not a hill that stands out, some mild berms maybe.

Agreed. Lots of crusty snow out here and a decent amount of ground to cover. As you say there’s not a hill that stands out, some mild berms maybe.

Oh, that is pretty convincing actually, especially with "fields where children playeth". I remember a couple of slight hills in that area, unless they mean a snow bank. But there are also some definite street references further into the park. Clue 9 says they could see the arched light as they entered at night, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's where they stopped.
David

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:06:21 AM CST, Archie Pickerign <acpickerign@...> wrote:

I think the arch of light I think might actually be the Rec center.

Light at night comes through the big window when the gym lights are on. Kinda you gotta be there thing.

I think the arch of light I think might actually be the Rec center.

Light at night comes through the big window when the gym lights are on. Kinda you gotta be there thing.

Oh, Frank and Earl, that's a good thought. I'm not so sure about the rec center area even if those streets are there. I kind of feel like the things they mention early on are often closest to the treasure and then they kind of work outwards until the very end. But you never know.
David B. Allison

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:49:37 PM CST, Archie Pickerign <acpickerign@...> wrote:

I’ve been wrong before this hunt. But I’d be shocked if direct and dignified weren’t allusions to Frank and Earl streets.

It’s fun to look on Google maps. You can see where the traffic is going. Wheelock pkwy going East and west before and after the south entrance to Phalen have been red and over at como by Churchill street and the streetcar station have been red. No red around Central Park or harriett island. 

I’ve been wrong before this hunt. But I’d be shocked if direct and dignified weren’t allusions to Frank and Earl streets.

So I feel like going long means taking Phalen Dr. deep into the park. If you go as far as you can, there is a Do Not Enter sign on a road that is one way going the other way, which would make sense with them not steering you wrong. I'm not sure about "direct" but "dignified" would make sense with the China Friendship Garden at that spot. There is an arch at the entrance there. It's not lighted, but it has three Chinese characters on it and the middle one means "brightness". I think "No need to wade" means stay away from the beach house end of the park, and not working on your fade can be a golf term, saying stay off of the golf course too. So I'm still thinking it is on a path somewhere between the Lakeside Activity Center and the Picnic Pavilion, perhaps near Hoyt Ave.

Thanks David -

Your formatting is better than mine. As I said in another post, the SW area of Phalen is looking great.

Kudos To the Phalen backers.

Won’t steer (wheel lock) cements it for me.

don’t work on your fade = away from golf 
no Need to wade = not near water

go long could mean as in football, but I think “drag on” is a decent approximation - as in the dragon garden I was already at today!!! Oof 

Here is the new clue

Clue #10
The hunt can go long, but we won't steer you wrong
We try to stay direct and dignified.
There's no need to wade, or work on your fade
As you dig a month of snow outside.

And the previous clues:

Clue #9
I entered at night, and could see an arched light
And fields where children playeth
If you want exact location, well, that's not my vocation
Where it is? I'll no saith

Clue #8
Not with cape, but maybe rake, A hero, by another name, With studious guys, searched for the prize
And up north the puck did claim.
Clue #7
Buddy you're a big star, got a name to go far
Killing it down where they park the car
But you lied to their face, became a big disgrace
Better pack up and get outta this place

Clue #6
Stop all your prattle, you were born for battle
Defend your liberties and rights
Be ever so bold to seize silver and gold
By keeping the prize in your sights

Clue #5
Have you the right stuff to seek diamond in rough?
Then scrounge through stick and cone
If you want a big thrill look for a hill
To spy a treasure to own

Clue #4
If treasure's your mark, take a waltz in the park
Be ready to meet your match
Strap on your glove, look up above
For an object ripe for the catch

Clue #3
A bomb cyclone hit our wintry zone On the chin, buckling our knees Get up at your leisure to seek our fine treasure Find fortune and live life of ease

Clue #2
Descend from your perch, set out to search
East Side, west side, all around the town
Glory will reign when you find the chain
To go with your cap and gown

Clue #1
The viral pandemic is now endemic And the battle’s on for Ukraine Take a break from the news to follow your muse
And tackle these rhymes with your brain

The hunt can go long, but we won’t steer you wrong
We try to stay direct and dignified.
There’s no need to wade, or to work on your fade
As you dig a month of snow outside.

Is it odd or brilliant? Have to do something these days to keep absolutely everyone from saying, "Oh yea, that's Phelen!" So instead make a reference to the first place he lived. Likewise I'm leaning towards thinking last night's clue might have been about the 1992 ice palace just to make us think about the 1986 ice palace monument. Or maybe I sound to all of you like what some people sound like to me. lol
David

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:49:42 PM CST, Archie Pickerign <acpickerign@...> wrote:

Well said. And yes I think the River center ramp is on or nearly on the site.

Ive thought it had to be that for a bit- my only trepidation is that it seems odd to reference the location of an event that happened so far from where the clue is supposedly sending us. 

Well said. And yes I think the River center ramp is on or nearly on the site.

Ive thought it had to be that for a bit- my only trepidation is that it seems odd to reference the location of an event that happened so far from where the clue is supposedly sending us. 

Freddie Mercury (Car) goes far, still fits this clue better than Phalen...but, I am never right. Which leads us to Queen and Victoria.
Queen Lyrics
"We Will Rock You"

Buddy you're a boy make a big noise
Playin' in the street gonna be a big man some day
You got mud on yo' face
You big disgrace
Kickin' your can all over the place
Singin'

We will we will rock you
We will we will rock you

Buddy you're a young man hard man
Shoutin' in the street gonna take on the world some day
You got blood on yo' face
You big disgrace
Wavin' your banner all over the place

We will we will rock you
(Sing it out!)
We will we will rock you

Buddy you're an old man poor man
Pleadin' with your eyes gonna make you some peace some day
You got mud on your face
Big disgrace
Somebody better put you back into your place

We will we will rock you
(Sing it!)
We will we will rock you

(Everybody)

We will we will rock you
We will we will rock you

(Alright)
On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:35:47 PM CST, Allison Wonderland via groups.io <allisonwondrland@...> wrote:

Here is Clue 7 exactly:
Buddy you're a big star, got a name to go far
Killing it down where they park the car
But you lied to their face, became a big disgrace
Better pack up and get outta this place

And then here is a story about Edward Phelen: St. Paul’s first murderer: Edward Phelan (probably) | MinnPost
Was Phelen a big star? He was one of the earliest non-native residents of St. Paul. He was elected as a delegate to the MN Territorial Convention. 
Does his name go far? Phalen Creek goes far enough.
Phalen's initial land that he shared with John Hays stretched from Eagle St. to Robert St. That is where the murder allegedly took place and I believe there is indeed parking there right now.
10 years after being accused of murder, Phelen was charged with perjury (lying), thus becoming a disgrace.
Consequently he left town (and was killed by his travelling companions).
St. Paul’s first murderer: Edward Phelan (probably) | MinnPost

On September 27, 1839, Dakota boys found a body washed up under Dayton’s Bluff, near Carver’s Cave (Wakan Tipi).

David B. Allison

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:13:33 PM CST, Archie Pickerign <acpickerign@...> wrote:

If the killing it is for volleyball and the liar is indeed a reference to George Santos - Baruch College men’s volleyball “star” - then Bravo CW.

 

Oh big disgrace -- Hershel street leads u right too it!! JH


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Here is Clue 7 exactly:
Buddy you're a big star, got a name to go far
Killing it down where they park the car
But you lied to their face, became a big disgrace
Better pack up and get outta this place

And then here is a story about Edward Phelen: St. Paul’s first murderer: Edward Phelan (probably) | MinnPost
Was Phelen a big star? He was one of the earliest non-native residents of St. Paul. He was elected as a delegate to the MN Territorial Convention. 
Does his name go far? Phalen Creek goes far enough.
Phalen's initial land that he shared with John Hays stretched from Eagle St. to Robert St. That is where the murder allegedly took place and I believe there is indeed parking there right now.
10 years after being accused of murder, Phelen was charged with perjury (lying), thus becoming a disgrace.
Consequently he left town (and was killed by his travelling companions).
St. Paul’s first murderer: Edward Phelan (probably) | MinnPost

On September 27, 1839, Dakota boys found a body washed up under Dayton’s Bluff, near Carver’s Cave (Wakan Tipi).

David B. Allison

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:13:33 PM CST, Archie Pickerign <acpickerign@...> wrote:

If the killing it is for volleyball and the liar is indeed a reference to George Santos - Baruch College men’s volleyball “star” - then Bravo CW.

 

Oh this is exhausting. Lets see what tonight clue says.. I am stcuk on Merriam-- 
Two large sledding hills tennis court (match) It starts right up to fairview, which if you have ever been to a Soccer game - Its where one must park. Studious school of course Battle - Only neighbor hood to win the 94 war! Rondo loss - Midway loss- Merriam stood strong in the battle. lets see it is 35E - 94west North North (or something like that (Sorry i am directional challenge) two very large hills chains on the lotBig storm ?yep large Tree knocked down last year. 
I know so many ways to go -- I have been seatching for 25 years ! Please can i just see it? 
Ugh exhausted! And it is really cold! 
Joanne needs to touch the silver & gold 

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If the killing it is for volleyball and the liar is indeed a reference to George Santos - Baruch College men’s volleyball “star” - then Bravo CW.