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Re: Phalen, Edward

3 years 2 months ago
Buddy could be a reference to Edward Phalen allegedly killing his partner, presumably a friend of his.  Another interesting note is that Phelan was living in NYC when he enlisted in the Army and was assigned to be stationed at Fort Snelling.  
eicemann7@... (Eicemann)

Re: PP Medallion Hunt - Clue #9

3 years 2 months ago
1966 Harriet Island puck was found between the baseball diamond. 1975 Oliver Towne wrote Let's build an ice palace for good Old Bob Olsen. It was built on Harriet Island. 1992 MN hosted the super bowl (tackle) and the Ice palace was built on Harriet Island. 2018 MN hosted the super bowl again, Ice palace was in Rice Park, however the two teams playing were Phil Eagles and New England Patriots. Also do you remember that on the last block of ice a fish was found (ripe). Regarding hill maybe it's a reference to a physical hill or I think it's more to do with the family of James J. Hill and their business. Also, while checking out google maps, between Irvine Park and Shepard Rd there's a Mankato Subdivision. I mentioned before in other posts there's a lot of connections to downtown. 
Info.av8tr@... (April + Katelyn)

Re: PP Medallion Hunt - Clue #9

3 years 2 months ago
There are a few clue words & phrases that were also used in 2004 for Phalen. "Prattle" was in 2004 Clue 1.  Perhaps a red herring for Battle Creek?  "East side, west side," began 2004 Clue 4.  "Bold" was "bolder" in  2004 Clue 10. 
eicemann7@... (Eicemann)

Re: PP Medallion Hunt - Clue #9

3 years 2 months ago
https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=135839
Not sure if these arches are lit up themselves, but there are street lights here. 
Nearby is the Hmong Tuj Lub Field, and the archery range (mark, sights). Tuj Lub is a game played with a stick and a top (which looks like a cone). This is by Frost Ave (maybe muse, rhymes referring to Robert Frost or boxing references to Isaac Frost - Fight Night movie - kinda a stretch I know). Just throwing this out there in case someone wants to check it out.
jacqui@... (wblgirl)

Re: PP Medallion Hunt - Clue #9

3 years 2 months ago
I figured that last line had to be an anagram with it's odd phrasing and spelling. "It's on a hill" would be one that certainly makes sense with the other clues. The clues to me sound like they ask you to do a lot of looking up. So does that mean it's at the top of a hill? 
David

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 02:08:27 AM CST, Rebecca via groups.io <radgibson@...> wrote:

Anagram of "I'll no saith" = It's on a hill.
You're welcome :)
AllisonWondrland@... (Allison Wonderland)

Re: PP Medallion Hunt - Clue #9

3 years 2 months ago
This was brought up in chat. “I’ll no saith” is an anagram for “It’s on a hill.”
I still think it’s around Battle Creek. Cherokee is my second possibility.
- Anthony 


anthonyvanwagner@... (Anthony VanWagner)

Re: PP Medallion Hunt - Clue #9

3 years 2 months ago
I'm still at como with this clue.  Somewhere on the small hill in the Pony Rides Zone, if you have the latest Treasure Map Guide.  That section of the park has the arched street lights which would be lit and seen by the person hiding the medallion at night.
denisegfurlong@... (Denise F)

Re: PP Medallion Hunt - Clue #9

3 years 2 months ago
Oh, yeah. I forgot about that area. I was there on the last clue ( I rushed over from the Winter Carnival Ice Palace downtown near Excel Center) to watch the ruckus in the pit. No way was I going to get in there.
alfabob1@... (alfabob)

Re: PP Medallion Hunt - Clue #9

3 years 2 months ago
There are hills in Phalen. There is one by the Lakeside Activity Center and another one towards the back where the mosh pit from 2004 was.
David

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 01:01:24 AM CST, <alfabob1@...> wrote:

'A hero by another name'... could be another way of spelling Zelenksy, President of Ukraine, and refer to Zielinski, one of the Mankato students who found the treasure in Phalen Park in 1973. Someone also said a her by another name could be a sub, as in sandwich. Or Sandwich, Earl of. Earl Street runs into south end of Phalen Park. Earl of Sandwich was from around the 1600's in England, hence the 'Olde English' words in clue 9.
Or a hero or sub sandwich wrapper could be what the medallion is wrapped in, if it is not wrapped in the fruitsicle/ice cream cone package from Sticks and Cones at Farmer's Market in Lowertown.
There's a children playground at Phalen just south of the picnic pavilion. And just south of that, near a parking lot, is the Lakeside Activity Center, which has a hill behind it. Otherwise, I don't see any hills in Phalen, but that's just from the Google map view. I don't have a car to get there.

One more thing at Phalen is the 'Meditation' sculpture, just north of the amphitheater. There is a company called Muse that makes a sort of headband  that helps with meditation and sleeping. https://choosemuse.com/
Oh. And don't forget about the Phalen Poetry Park (west side of Wheelock Pkwy, just south of the Rec Center parking lot) to help 'tackle the rhymes with your brain'.
AllisonWondrland@... (Allison Wonderland)

Re: PP Medallion Hunt - Clue #9

3 years 2 months ago
'A hero by another name'... could be another way of spelling Zelenksy, President of Ukraine, and refer to Zielinski, one of the Mankato students who found the treasure in Phalen Park in 1973. Someone also said a her by another name could be a sub, as in sandwich. Or Sandwich, Earl of. Earl Street runs into south end of Phalen Park. Earl of Sandwich was from around the 1600's in England, hence the 'Olde English' words in clue 9.
Or a hero or sub sandwich wrapper could be what the medallion is wrapped in, if it is not wrapped in the fruitsicle/ice cream cone package from Sticks and Cones at Farmer's Market in Lowertown.
There's a children playground at Phalen just south of the picnic pavilion. And just south of that, near a parking lot, is the Lakeside Activity Center, which has a hill behind it. Otherwise, I don't see any hills in Phalen, but that's just from the Google map view. I don't have a car to get there.

One more thing at Phalen is the 'Meditation' sculpture, just north of the amphitheater. There is a company called Muse that makes a sort of headband  that helps with meditation and sleeping. https://choosemuse.com/
Oh. And don't forget about the Phalen Poetry Park (west side of Wheelock Pkwy, just south of the Rec Center parking lot) to help 'tackle the rhymes with your brain'.
alfabob1@... (alfabob)

Re: PP Medallion Hunt - Clue #9

3 years 2 months ago
I bring up the 1992 one just because I see it had lighted arches. Maybe the clue is just alluding to ice palaces in general and maybe the ice palace monument in Phalen specifically?
David 

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 12:09:39 AM CST, JT <jotiff1@...> wrote:

1986 at Phalen 
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 12:04 AM Allison Wonderland via groups.io <AllisonWondrland=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
AllisonWondrland@... (Allison Wonderland)

Re: PP Medallion Hunt - Clue #9

3 years 2 months ago
Okay sleuths, Noodler's extraordinaire, why printeth the Old English say ye? 

On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 11:46:27 PM CST, Allison Wonderland via groups.io <allisonwondrland@...> wrote:

Here is the new clue

Clue #9
I entered at night, and could see an arched light
And fields where children playeth
If you want exact location, well, that's not my vocation
Where it is? I'll no saith

And the previous clues:

Clue #8
Not with cape, but maybe rake, A hero, by another name, With studious guys, searched for the prize
And up north the puck did claim.
Clue #7
Buddy you're a big star, got a name to go far
Killing it down where they park the car
But you lied to their face, became a big disgrace
Better pack up and get outta this place

Clue #6
Stop all your prattle, you were born for battle
Defend your liberties and rights
Be ever so bold to seize silver and gold
By keeping the prize in your sights

Clue #5
Have you the right stuff to seek diamond in rough?
Then scrounge through stick and cone
If you want a big thrill look for a hill
To spy a treasure to own

Clue #4
If treasure's your mark, take a waltz in the park
Be ready to meet your match
Strap on your glove, look up above
For an object ripe for the catch

Clue #3
A bomb cyclone hit our wintry zone On the chin, buckling our knees Get up at your leisure to seek our fine treasure Find fortune and live life of ease

Clue #2
Descend from your perch, set out to search
East Side, west side, all around the town
Glory will reign when you find the chain
To go with your cap and gown

Clue #1
The viral pandemic is now endemic And the battle’s on for Ukraine Take a break from the news to follow your muse
And tackle these rhymes with your brain
flippstermn@... (Mike Flipp)
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