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ares

only one? i need 3 :smile:
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 7:21 AM Permalink
East Side Digger

:smile: :grin: :eek: :worried: :eyeroll: :cool: :pbpt: :sillygrin: :lipsealed: :goofy:
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 7:27 AM Permalink
ares

sometimes four.
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 8:03 AM Permalink
Love4Vino

I like soy, as in Soy Sauce, Soy Beans (edaname) I'm not a big yogurt or snotty texture fan, so anything that is goopy isn't going to be good. Soy is much lower in sodium than other cow milk products, which may also be why I don't like it.

I heart Salt. :smile:
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 9:22 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

How do they make cottage cheese?

And is it really cheese?
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 10:14 AM Permalink
KITCH

Cottage cheese is really easy to make at home. It is probably the easiest of all the cheeses to make. Cottage cheese is very healthy and nutritious, not to mention easily digested. Commercial cotage cheeses may have some very bad additives, but homemade cottage cheese is so pure and natural. And since it is, it is highly perishable and should be used in three to four days. It may seem difficult and confusing at first, but that's only with your first batch, after that it's a breeze.

Cottage chese should be made using skim milk, because the cream solids don't stay in the curds, it stays with the whey. A gallon of skim milk will make about a pound of cottage cheese. If you are planning to use raw milk, let it set for a while and then skim off the cream to use later in your finished cottage cheese.

You will need a starter to make cottage cheese. You can use a commercial culture, cultured buttermilk, or rennet tablets. I have found that by replacing one cup of the skim milk with one cup of cultured buttermilk and 1/8 of a rennet tablet gives a small curd cottage cheese, leave out the cultured buttermilk and use 1/4 tablet rennet if you prefer large curd cottage cheese. Salt helps to improve the life of the cheese, no to mention the flavor. After the cottage cheese is done, it will have a very acid like taste to it, so you will want to season it with either sour cream or sweet cream. Herbs, fruit or sweeteners can also be added.

Now you will need some equipment to make cottage cheese. First you will need a six to eight quart pot made of stainless steel, enamel or glass. Don't use aluminum! You will need another container, which can be aluminum, a little bigger, to use like a double boiler. Your kitchen sink with a good stopper will work if you don't have a bigger pot. A floating dairy thermometer is the best, but a candy thermometer that will measure 75 to 175 degrees will work. Measuring cups and spoons, a long handled knife and spoon for cutting and stirring. They need to be long enough to reach the bottom of you large non aluminum container. You will also need a storage container to store your cottage cheese in when it is finished. A colander and some cheese cloth to drain you cottage cheese.

Assemble all of your equipment and make sure it is perfectly clean. Decide if you want large curd or small curd cottage cheese. For large curd cottage cheese use 1/4 of a rennet tablet dissolved in two tablespoons of water, and one gallon of skim milk, don't mix these yet. For small curd cottage cheese, replace one cup of the skim milk with one cup of cultured buttermilk, and dissolve 1/8 of a rennet tablet in two tablespoon of water, don't mix these yet.

Next, put the milk in the six to eight quart pot and set it in the sink or larger pot with water. Heat the milk to 80 degrees using this double boiler method. If you try to heat the milk on direct heat you might scald it, which will make it taste awful. Be sure to use your thermometer in the milk. In the sink, add enough hot water to reach 80 degrees. Change the water as often as needed until you reach the desired temperature. Once you have reached the desired temperature add your rennet and stir well. Let this set in a warm room until a knife inserted into the center comes out clean. When this happens you are ready to cut the curd.

To cut the curd, take your long knife and make 1/2 inch cuts,straight up and down, from left to right, then front to rear. Then cut diagonally in both directions. Don't disturb the cut curds for ten minutes, then stir very gently with your hands.

Now you will need to raise the temperature very slowly to one hundred degrees in about thirty to forty minutes. If you are using the sink you will need to add boiling water to cook the curds. Be sure to stir often, about one minute every five minutes. Once you reach one hundred degrees, you can transfer the pot to the stove top to heat it faster, you will need to stir it more often until you reach one hundred and fifteen degrees, this should take about fifteen minutes.

By now the curds should be firm and you should stop the heating process. Pour the curds into the colander lined with the cheese cloth to drain off the whey. You can save the whey to feed to your pets or chickens. Let the curds drain for a few minutes. If you let the curds drain for too long they will stick together.

Gather the corners of the cheese cloth and dip it into some ice water several times. Return the cheese cloth to the colander and rinse with icy cold water until the water runs clear. Gather the corners of the cheese cloth again and let the water drain out. When the water no longer drips, its done.

Measure the curds into a mixing bowl. For every cup of curd add 1/2 teaspoon of non-iodized salt and stir well with your hands. If you like the store bought cottage cheese, add six tablespoons of sweet cream for every two cups of curds. For dieters, replace the cream with skim milk. You can use sour cream mixed with your favorite herbs or add fruits.

If your cottage cheese isn't just right and tastes sour or very acid, it means that the curd was not washed and drained enough. If the curds are tough and dry, it means that you might have heated the curds too high or that the curds remained in the whey too long. Soft curds means too low of a temperature. Funny tasting can mean that your utensils weren't clean or that the milk you used wasn't pasteurized.

Just remember that the first batch is the hardest, and that the next hatch will be a breeze, along with every other batch.
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 10:28 AM Permalink
Love4Vino

commercial cottage cheese is surprisingly high in sodium 420mg per serving. Low Sodium diets try to stay between 500 and 1000 mg. There fore that's a huge chunk.

Homemade sounds fun there kitch.. but I try to avoid making anything curdle on purpose in my kitchen, it does that on it's own enough.
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 12:27 PM Permalink
me2

Dear Kitch,

what can you tell us about Nebakanezer?

and did he see a hand write on a wall?

regards,

j and j and j :sillygrin:
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 2:33 PM Permalink
KITCH

He had twenty-nine blackbirds
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 2:50 PM Permalink
KITCH

...soo...you want to know about babylon????

or the dome of the rock??
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 2:57 PM Permalink
KITCH

King Nebakanezer of Babylon destroys Jerusalem, takes the Jews to Mesopotamia.

I'm really confused as 2 why you want to know this...I'm thinking it has something 2do with Davinci code...but I don't recall this in the book.
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 3:03 PM Permalink
KITCH

Nebuchadrezzar

damn spelling goofs...
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 3:10 PM Permalink
KITCH

Nebuchadrezzar (also Nebuchadnezzar) II (reigned 605 BC - 562 BC), is perhaps the best known ruler of Babylon in the Chaldean Dynasty. He is famous for his conquests of Judah and Jerusalem, his monumental building within his capital of Babylon, his role in the Book of Daniel, and his construction of the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, which as legend has it he made for his wife because she was homesick for the mountain springs where she grew up.

He is traditionally called "Nebuchadnezzar the Great", but his destruction of temples in Jerusalem and the conquest of Judah caused his vilification in Judaic tradition and in the Bible, causing him to be interpreted very differently by western Christians and Jews than in contemporary Iraq, where he is glorified as a historic leader.
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 3:10 PM Permalink
KITCH

His name in Akkadian Nabû-kudurri-uṣur, is variously interpreted as "O Nebo, defend my crown", "empire", "landmark", or "work". In an inscription he styles himself "Nebo's favourite." The Hebrew form is נבוכדנאצר Nəbūkadnệṣṣar, (the presence of the א (aleph) may indicate an earlier Hebrew pronunciation Nəbūkadenʾeṣṣar), and sometimes (in Jeremiah and Ezekiel) נבוכדראצר, Nəbūkadrệṣṣar. The Septuagint and Vulgate Bibles have Ναβουχοδονοσορ, Nabuchodonosor (perhaps reflecting an earlier Hebrew pronunciation Nabūkudunʾuṣur) but the KJV re-introduces the Hebrew variants as Nebuchadnezzar vs. Nebuchadrezzar.

The Hebrew Nebuchadnezzar may reflect an Akkadian Nabû-kidin-uṣur, or "O Nebo, defend the donkey".
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 3:10 PM Permalink
KITCH

Nebuchadnezzar was the oldest son and successor of Nabopolassar, who delivered Babylon from its dependence on Assyria and laid Nineveh in ruins. According to Berossus, he married the daughter of Cyaxares, and thus the Median and Babylonian dynasties were united.

Necho II, the king of Egypt, had gained a victory over the Assyrians at Carchemish. This secured Egypt the possession of Phoenician provinces of the Neo-Assyrian Empire, including parts of Palestine. The remaining Assyrian provinces were divided between Babylonia and Media. Nabopolassar was intent on reconquering from Necho the western provinces of Syria, however, and to this end dispatched his son with a powerful army westward. In the ensuing Battle of Carchemish in 605 BC, the Egyptian army was defeated and driven back, and Syria and Phoenicia were brought under the sway of Babylon. Nabopolassar died on August 15, 605 BC and Nebuchadnezzar quickly returned to Babylon to ascend to the throne.

After the defeat of the Cimmerians and Scythians, all of Nebuchadrezzar's expeditions were directed westwards, although a powerful neighbour lay to the North; the cause of this was that a wise political marriage with Amuhia, the daughter of the Median king, had insured a lasting peace between the two empires.

Nebuchadrezzar engaged in several military campaigns designed to increase Babylonian influence in Syria and Judah. An attempted invasion of Egypt in 601 BC met with setbacks, however, leading to numerous rebellions among the states of the Levant, including Judah. Nebuchadrezzar soon dealt with these rebellions, capturing Jerusalem in 597 BC, and bringing King Jehoiachin to Babylon. When Pharaoh Apries attempted an invasion of Palestine again, in 589 BC, Judah and other states of the region once again rebelled. Another siege of Jerusalem occurred in 587/586 BC, ending in the destruction of both the city and the Temple and the deportation of many prominent citizens to Babylon. These events are described in the Bible. After the destruction of Jerusalem, Nebuchadrezzar engaged in a 13 year long siege of Tyre (585-572 BC), which ended in a compromise, with the Tyrians accepting Babylonian authority.
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 3:11 PM Permalink
KITCH

It would appear that following the pacification of Tyre, Nebuchadrezzar turned again to Egypt. A clay tablet, now in the British Museum, bears the following inscription referring to his wars:

"In the 37th year of Nebuchadrezzar, king of the country of Babylon, he went to Mitzraim (Egypt) to make war. Amasis, king of Egypt, collected [his army], and marched and spread abroad."

Having completed the subjugation of Phoenicia, and inflicted chastisement on Egypt, Nebuchadrezzar now set himself to rebuild and adorn the city of Babylon, and constructed canals, aqueducts and reservoirs.

From Nebuchadrezzar's inscriptions and from the number of temples erected or restored by this prince we gather that he was a very devout man. What we know of his history shows him to have been of a humane disposition, in striking contrast with the display of wanton cruelty of most Assyrian rulers. It was owing to this moderation that Jerusalem was spared repeatedly, and finally destroyed only when its destruction became a political necessity; rebel princes easily obtained pardon, and Zedekiah himself, whose ungratefulness to the Babylonian king was particularly odious, would, had he manifested less stubbornness, have been treated with greater indulgence (Jeremiah 38:17, 18); Nebuchadrezzar showed much consideration to Jeremiah, leaving him free to accompany the exiles to Babylon or to remain in Jerusalem, and appointing one of the Prophet's friends, Godolias, to the governorship of Jerusalem; he granted likewise such a share of freedom to the exiled Jews that some rose to a position of prominence at Court and Baruch thought it a duty to exhort his fellow-countrymen to have the welfare of Babylon at heart and to pray for her king. Babylonian tradition has it that towards the end of his life, Nebuchadrezzar, inspired from on high, prophesied the impending ruin to the Chaldean Empire (Berosus and Abydenus in Eusebius, Praep. Evang., 9.41).

Nebuchadrezzar died in Babylon between the second and sixth months of the forty-third year of his reign.
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 3:11 PM Permalink
KITCH

Nebuchadrezzar seems to have prided himself on his constructions more than on his victories. During the last century of Niniveh's existence, Babylon had been greatly devastated, not only at the hands of Sennacherib and Assurbanipal, but also as a result of her ever renewed rebellions. Nebuchadrezzar, continuing his father's work of reconstruction, aimed at making his capital one of the world's wonders. Old temples were restored; new edifices of incredible magnificence were erected to the many gods of the Babylonian pantheon (Diodorus of Sicily, 2.95; Herodotus, 1.183) to complete the royal palace begun by Nabopolassar, nothing was spared, neither "cedar-wood, nor bronze, gold, silver, rare and precious stones"; an underground passage and a stone bridge connected the two parts of the city separated by the Euphrates; the city itself was rendered impregnable by the construction of a triple line of walls. Nor was Nebuchadrezzar's activity confined to the capital; he is credited with the restoration of the Lake of Sippar, the opening of a port on the Persian Gulf, and the building of the famous Median wall between the Tigris and the Euphrates to protect the country against incursions from the North: in fact, there is scarcely a place around Babylon where his name does not appear and where traces of his activity are not found. These gigantic undertakings required an innumerable host of workmen: from the inscription of the great temple of Marduk , we may infer that most probably captives brought from various parts of Western Asia made up a large part of the labouring force used in all his public works.
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 3:12 PM Permalink
KITCH

Nebuchadrezzar is most widely known through his portrayal in the Bible, especially the Book of Daniel, which discusses several events of his reign in addition to his conquest of Jerusalem:

In the second year of his reign (evidently counting from his conquest of the Jews), Nebuchadrezzar dreams of a huge image made of various materials (gold, copper, iron, etc). The prophet Daniel interprets it to stand for the rise and fall of world powers. (Daniel Chapter 2)

During another incident, Nebuchadrezzar erects a large idol for worship during a public ceremony on the plain of Dura. When three Jews, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah (Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego) refuse to take part, he has them cast into a roaring furnace. They are protected by an angel and emerge unscathed. (Daniel Chapter 3)

Another dream, this time of an immense tree, is interpreted by Daniel the prophet. (Daniel Chapter 4)

While boasting over his achievements, Nebuchadrezzar is humbled by the God of the Jews. The king loses his sanity and lives in the wild like an animal for seven years (by some considered as an attack of the madness called clinical boanthropy). After this, his sanity and position are restored. Neither the illness, nor the interregnum which it must have caused, are recorded in Babylonian annals; however, there is a notable absence of any record of acts or decrees by the king during 582-575 BC. Some scholars believe that the Book of Daniel was written long after the events described, during the 2nd century BC, and thus are skeptical of the details of Nebuchadrezzar's portrayal by Daniel.

Some scholars think that Nebuchadrezzar's portrayal by Daniel is a mixture of traditions about Nebuchadrezzar -- he was indeed the one who conquered Jerusalem -- and about Nabonidus (Nabuna'id), the last king of Babylon. For example, Nabonidus was the real father of Belshazzar, and the seven years of insanity could be related to Nabonidus' sojourn in Tayma in the desert. Evidence for this view was actually found on some fragments from the Dead Sea Scrolls that reference Nabonidus (N-b-n-y) being smitten by God with a fever for seven years of his reign while his son Belshazzar was regent.
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 3:12 PM Permalink
KITCH

Named after Nebuchadrezzar

* There is a type of daylily named "Nebuchadnezzar's Furnace".

    * In the popular The Matrix film trilogy, the hovercraft of the character 'Morpheus' is named the Nebuchadnezzar.

    * A bottle of champagne which contains the same amount as 20 bottles (15 litres) is called a Nebuchadnezzar.

    * Opera Nabucco

    * Saddam Hussein named one of his Republican Guards divisions after Nebuchadnezzar.

    * A Legend card in the Magic the Gathering card game is named Nebuchadnezzer.

    * The VeggieTales character Nebby K. Nezzer is a play off of Nebuchadnezzer.
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 3:12 PM Permalink
KITCH

The Hanging Gardens of Babylon (also known as the Hanging Gardens of Semiramis) and the walls of Babylon (present-day Iraq) were considered one of the Seven Wonders of the World. They were both supposedly built by Nebuchadnezzar II around 600 BC .

The Hanging Gardens are extensively documented by Greek historians such as Strabo and Diodorus Siculus, but otherwise there is little evidence for their existence. In fact, there are no Babylonian records of any such gardens having existed. Some (circumstantial) evidence gathered at the excavation of the palace at Babylon has accrued, but does not completely substantiate what look like fanciful descriptions. Some schools of thought think that through the ages the location may have been confused with gardens that existed at Nineveh as tablets from there clearly showing gardens have been found. Writings on these tablets describe the possible use of something similar to an Archimedes' screw as a process of raising the water to the required height.
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 3:18 PM Permalink
KITCH

According to accounts, the gardens were built to cheer up Nebuchadnezzar's homesick wife, Amyitis. Amyitis, daughter of the king of the Medes, was married to Nebuchadnezzar to create an alliance between the nations. The land she came from, though, was green, rugged and mountainous, and she found the flat, sun-baked terrain of the Mesopotamia (a region of southwest Asia) depressing. The king decided to recreate her homeland by building an artificial mountain with rooftop gardens.

The Hanging Gardens probably did not really "hang" in the sense of being suspended from cables or ropes. The name comes from an inexact translation of the Greek word kremastos or the Latin word pensilis, which means not just "hanging” but "overhanging," as in the case of a terrace or balcony.

The Greek geographer Strabo, who described the gardens in the first century BC, wrote, "It consists of vaulted terraces raised one above another, and resting upon cube-shaped pillars. These are hollow and filled with earth to allow trees of the largest size to be planted. The pillars, vaults, and terraces are constructed of baked brick and asphalt."

More recent archaeological excavations at the ancient city of Babylon in Iraq uncovered the foundation of the palace. Other findings include the Vaulted Building with thick walls and an irrigation well near the southern palace. A group of archaeologists surveyed the area of the southern palace and reconstructed the Vaulted Building as the Hanging Gardens. However, the Greek historian Strabo had stated that the gardens were situated by the River Euphrates. So others argue that the site is too far from the Euphrates to support the theory since the Vaulted Building is several hundreds of meters away. They reconstructed the site of the palace and located the Gardens in the area stretching from the River to the Palace. On the river banks, recently discovered massive walls 25 m thick may have been stepped to form terraces... the ones described in Greek references.
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 3:18 PM Permalink
KITCH

I can't find anything on the walls of babylon having hand writings on them....

what do you know??
Thu, 05/25/2006 - 3:22 PM Permalink
ares

I'm really confused as 2 why you want to know this...I'm thinking it has something 2do with Davinci code...but I don't recall this in the book.

nope. nothing to do with the book. we're just a trio of really sick sick individuals trying to prove a theory..
Fri, 05/26/2006 - 6:42 AM Permalink
KITCH

wanna let me in on it???
Fri, 05/26/2006 - 6:43 AM Permalink
ares

me2 was wondering with zeph and myself the other day if there were a way we could get something sexual out of nebuchadnezzar. :smile:
Fri, 05/26/2006 - 7:08 AM Permalink
KITCH

why didn't you tell me...I could have done that...
Fri, 05/26/2006 - 7:11 AM Permalink
KITCH

Nebuchadrezzar

srike one...

anagram...

but I did find the word "chub" in it...
Fri, 05/26/2006 - 7:23 AM Permalink
KITCH

A bottle of champagne which contains the same amount as 20 bottles (15 litres) is called a Nebuchadnezzar.

that's enough fro me..... :wink:
Fri, 05/26/2006 - 7:27 AM Permalink
KITCH

ok...this is a Jahova thing....I might get some goofy answer in a bit...

I'm asking around...
Fri, 05/26/2006 - 7:40 AM Permalink
KITCH

oh great...now I got 2 JW's thinking I'm interested....thanks...thanks...
Fri, 05/26/2006 - 7:52 AM Permalink
KITCH

unless it has to do with the garden...

I don't see how it can be done..
Fri, 05/26/2006 - 8:04 AM Permalink
me2

hahahahahaha
Fri, 05/26/2006 - 10:44 AM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

kitch-

how smizashed should I get this weekend?

are you coming out sunday?
Fri, 05/26/2006 - 4:30 PM Permalink
zephyrus

I had one of these... Not so much for fast, but could suck gas like ther was no tomorrow :smile: (5 mpg) Smoke tires forever too...

Sun, 05/28/2006 - 4:51 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Had one of these too... That one was fun, for the 2 months I had it... Sold it to a guy who used the engine at Elko...

But mine was a type LT



But then again, I had one of these too...

Sun, 05/28/2006 - 4:57 PM Permalink
zephyrus

me2... this may be a way to tie him in... "O Nebo, defend the donkey"
Sun, 05/28/2006 - 8:31 PM Permalink
me2

I owned one of these- I was only in it's back seat once- :wink: and not for that! :sheepish:
Mon, 05/29/2006 - 10:06 AM Permalink
KITCH

why turn left?

According to a NASCAR official, one reason they run counter-clockwise is because drivers want to stay away from the outer wall for safety reasons. But IÂ’ve heard other plausible explanations as well, including American orneriness that dates back to revolutionary days.

what a prick...never doubt me...I knew the answer he just didn't want to listen to me...
Tue, 05/30/2006 - 5:43 AM Permalink
KITCH

well..that and horse racing...hahaha
Tue, 05/30/2006 - 5:49 AM Permalink
KITCH

in the tradition of horse racing that they set up counter

clockwise first in 1780 because American horse breeders were still mad

at the british, whose horse races were set up clockwise.
Tue, 05/30/2006 - 5:52 AM Permalink
KITCH

ok....one more thing...

it has a small electric bilge pump in the bottom of the cooler, we hook the quick couplers up to the sled and turn on the pump to circulate the coolant, right now we are just using bags of ice to run the coolant through, but eventually we will go to a radiator setup that is a closed loop system so that our coolant does not keep getting diluted by the ice water.
Tue, 05/30/2006 - 5:59 AM Permalink
Love4Vino

not just champagne, but wine too. We used to have a couple of them down in the bottling room (they are huge) I went down to look to take a photo, but can't find them now.
Tue, 05/30/2006 - 11:05 AM Permalink
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Dear Guide:

This may seem trivial, but there are many, many people I've talked to that would like an answer to this one.

Where did the rumor come from where you could get a free Tootsie Pop if you had the star on your wrapper? I've tried contacting www.tootsie.com but they do not provide an e-mail address or way to contact them. Is it possible to find out the answer to this?

Dear Reader:

Probably not. Nobody seems to know how this rumor got started, least of all the folks at Tootsie Roll Industries in Chicago, Illinois, who have been politely deflecting mail-in requests for free Tootsie Pops ever since the 1930s. They maintain there was never any sort of official promotion or contest associated with Tootsie Pop wrappers. Where the notion came from remains a mystery.

Actually, there's more to the mistakenly revered wrapper than just a star. The illustration shows an American Indian shooting an arrow at a star, and it's that Indian most people mention when they speak of the legend. I'm told about one-third of all Tootsie Pop wrappers sport the design. Why? For variety, apparently. Not much of a mystery there.

I'm not sure how commonly this happens, but readers have also reported to me that some independent grocers do unofficially honor the supposed Free Tootsie Pop offer when kids bring the Indian wrappers into their stores for redemption. But it's neither sanctioned nor financed by Tootsie Roll Industries.

For many years the company responded to kids who wrote in to claim their free Tootsie Pop with an apologetic (and surely disappointing) note, but since 1982 they've also enclosed a short work of fiction called "The Legend of the Indian Wrapper," apparently intended to serve as a sort of consolation prize.

In fine ad executive prose, it tells of a man "long, long ago, when all lollipops were made alike," who wanted to make a new kind of sucker with something special inside. But he couldn't figure out how. Well, one day the man awoke "to find a grand Indian chief smiling at him. The chief told the man that he would help him make a lollipop with a chewy candy center, if the man promised the chief that he would never, ever, stop making them for people. The man promised. ... The 'Indian Wrapper' is supposedly a sign that the grand chief has personally checked that particular lollipop for the chewy candy center."

Maybe it's just me, but I would think that adding yet more hype to the Indian wrapper mystique must simply confuse a lot of children instead of quieting their false expectations.

Mightn't it be less distressing for the kids and more cost-effective simply to chuck a free Tootsie Pop in the mail?

— David Emery
Fri, 06/02/2006 - 10:56 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

heh.
Fri, 06/02/2006 - 11:35 AM Permalink
Clue Master

That is a truly fantastic info post there Kitchy. Really. Every now and then I still open an old box where I've saved some of the 'rare' Indian wrappers. I always thought it cooler to have the actual wrapper than just another Tootsie Pop. Now I know where I get my mentality for the actual medallion from. :wink:
Fri, 06/02/2006 - 11:05 PM Permalink
me2

but readers have also reported to me that some independent grocers do unofficially honor the supposed Free Tootsie Pop offer when kids bring the Indian wrappers into their stores for redemption

thanks for igniting the memory.

I used to bring the wrappers with the indian shooting the star to the corner store and they always gave me a free tootsie pop. The indian couldn't be cut off though, it had to be the full indian.
Sat, 06/03/2006 - 6:18 AM Permalink
KITCH

the main reason I looked it up was KATIE blew my mind the other day...

she asked me "what does the indian with the star really mean???" "Do I get a free one??"

I was like wow...the kids still talk about this??

I guess somethings never change....

she also amazes me with all the schoolyard songs/chants she knows....
Sun, 06/04/2006 - 1:00 PM Permalink
diggin4it

cooler info - thanks
Mon, 06/05/2006 - 10:12 AM Permalink