I came to a definte decision about the meaning of the first part of clue five. I'm sure that man of steel is a ref. to superman because he isn't real ("man of steel cannot be real"). The "another" which can be real and has "plenty of mettle" is a refference to a REAL man of steel, a Steel Tycoon, who's name is somewhere around the medallion. This is either Andrew Carnegie or James Hill. I believe it is a James J. Hill reference, as Hill is a St.Paul native, but I haven't checked out the maps yet to cross refference Caregie with any parks. So the clue could be simply stating that the medallion is near a hill, or the reference to hill could be the James Hill memorial library in St. Paul.
Well stallion, the hole in your theory (hehe) is that mettle doesn't mean metal, and thus there's no reason to necessarily assume they mean a steel baron.
If "man of steel" really does refer to Superman, then the man with a lot of mettle would also have to be some sort of hero or have something in common with Superman in order to invite the comparison.
I think many of you are reading far too much into these early clues. Remember, only 1-2 revelations per clue are the norm. Good luck digging and let us know if you've made the cooler proud by finding that darn med.
Alison, "another" is the link. The clue would be more properly state as "One man of steel . . ." but that would have made it to obvious. It is "another man of steel, but one that is real as opposed to not fictional (which is why I don't think the Clark Kent reference works) and BOTH Carnegie AND Hill have mettle and perseverance for being so successful despite the odds during the deppression
The whole gist of clue #5 is that the two men have one thing in common, and one thing that is different. The thing that is different, is that while one is a man of steel, the other is a man of mettle, which is the joke of it. But first they have to have something in common. In my argument, I say what they have in common is the name Franklin. The problem with with Clark Kent is that he is more real than Superman as he is in fact Superman and thus also a man of steel.
In comparison to Superman. Superman is a super hero. A super hero with super powers. Clark Kent is an alter identity, however, still a person with super powers. Same as Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Spiderman, and the reset of the MC and Superfriends bunch. The only Super hero without super powers is Batman. He only has his utility belt, and is in all other superhero ideals, a common man. A BRAVE common man.
Batman = Adam WEST. The park is a WESTern Park. Highland, Hidden Falls, Crosby . . .
phalen rec center is a good bet...lots of areas around but apart from private property...and dont they have winter carnival car races circling around the lake
Stalion- I thought Hill was a RailRoad Baron. Where do you get steel from? (besides the fact that rails are steel) I would hardly call him a steel man...
I'm sorry to have to dissagree with you again Allison, but what is different is NOT that one is a man of steel while the other isn't. They are BOTH men of steel, the difference is that one is real while the other had plenty of mettle. But the general gist of you interpretation is right on.
Yes, Hill was a Rail man. But rail is, in my mind, a steel business. Hill was responsible for almost all the rail laid in the midwest. It's mostly his local rep. that would make me think the reference is to him. But again, it could be Carnegie . . .
I was also under the impression that Hill was a railroad baron, not a steel one. But the real person is the person of mettle, not steel.
Tim, my Valley interpretation is that "Franklin Magnet" might be thought of as a man of steel, but he's not real, though Benjamin Franklin has plenty of mettle. The idea being that Franklin Magnet School is part of Valley. It might work better with "Franklin Steel" instead of "Franklin Magnet" though.
I betcha we'll get the park pinned tonight or tomorrow night - especially if it's a bigger park. They have to use the next bunch to narrow down the exact location
I believe Hill was more of a railroad tycoon, namely the Pacific Railroad. Carnegie was the steel guy, Rockefeller was oil, and JP Morgan was banking. Are you sure the men of mettle and steel aren't statues?
Regg -
I agree with AW. Why are we typing a 3 digit number?
Regg -
Disregard
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Regg -
Why the numbers? Are you building a database??
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I came to a definte decision about the meaning of the first part of clue five. I'm sure that man of steel is a ref. to superman because he isn't real ("man of steel cannot be real"). The "another" which can be real and has "plenty of mettle" is a refference to a REAL man of steel, a Steel Tycoon, who's name is somewhere around the medallion. This is either Andrew Carnegie or James Hill. I believe it is a James J. Hill reference, as Hill is a St.Paul native, but I haven't checked out the maps yet to cross refference Caregie with any parks. So the clue could be simply stating that the medallion is near a hill, or the reference to hill could be the James Hill memorial library in St. Paul.
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9...
Erm. Why do you have to put numbers?
my vote is to stop with all the annoying numbers. . . but it's a free country . . .
8675309
reminds me of stupid AOL days
"if yur f3ma13 prezz 123"
stallion- that is some good noodling.
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Leah -
Great Stuff!!
SUPERMAN... AKA CLARK KENT.. KENT AVE... MARYDALE... #2!!!
Regalman, are you sure the medalion isn't at Newall againg this year?
Well stallion, the hole in your theory (hehe) is that mettle doesn't mean metal, and thus there's no reason to necessarily assume they mean a steel baron.
whos going where?
Aw,
Then you can not presume a magnet.....
Fats
If "man of steel" really does refer to Superman, then the man with a lot of mettle would also have to be some sort of hero or have something in common with Superman in order to invite the comparison.
Ah, but I can, because I'm playing on a pun, rather than a literal interpretation.
Allison Wonderland is Allison right again!
I think many of you are reading far too much into these early clues. Remember, only 1-2 revelations per clue are the norm. Good luck digging and let us know if you've made the cooler proud by finding that darn med.
Aw,
That does not seem to follow logic.
Ftas.
Alison, "another" is the link. The clue would be more properly state as "One man of steel . . ." but that would have made it to obvious. It is "another man of steel, but one that is real as opposed to not fictional (which is why I don't think the Clark Kent reference works) and BOTH Carnegie AND Hill have mettle and perseverance for being so successful despite the odds during the deppression
SUPERMAN... AKA CLARK KENT.. KENT AVE... MARYDALE!
The whole gist of clue #5 is that the two men have one thing in common, and one thing that is different. The thing that is different, is that while one is a man of steel, the other is a man of mettle, which is the joke of it. But first they have to have something in common. In my argument, I say what they have in common is the name Franklin. The problem with with Clark Kent is that he is more real than Superman as he is in fact Superman and thus also a man of steel.
AW -
In comparison to Superman. Superman is a super hero. A super hero with super powers. Clark Kent is an alter identity, however, still a person with super powers. Same as Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Spiderman, and the reset of the MC and Superfriends bunch. The only Super hero without super powers is Batman. He only has his utility belt, and is in all other superhero ideals, a common man. A BRAVE common man.
Batman = Adam WEST. The park is a WESTern Park. Highland, Hidden Falls, Crosby . . .
Too Much?????
phalen rec center is a good bet...lots of areas around but apart from private property...and dont they have winter carnival car races circling around the lake
Stalion- I thought Hill was a RailRoad Baron. Where do you get steel from? (besides the fact that rails are steel) I would hardly call him a steel man...
also thought of adam west snowball
Heh, there's a significant set of parks you people are missing, see if you can find them. :) (*hint* East and West are quite a factor)
I'm sorry to have to dissagree with you again Allison, but what is different is NOT that one is a man of steel while the other isn't. They are BOTH men of steel, the difference is that one is real while the other had plenty of mettle. But the general gist of you interpretation is right on.
Phalen is a park not a rec center
aw- can you plug that theory into valley for me?
regg man phalen rec and phalen park they are different things
Snoball, yes, a little to far.
Way too far, IMHO, Snowball
these clues aren't that early, folks. Tonight is the half way point!
Yes, Hill was a Rail man. But rail is, in my mind, a steel business. Hill was responsible for almost all the rail laid in the midwest. It's mostly his local rep. that would make me think the reference is to him. But again, it could be Carnegie . . .
SueBee -
What is IMHO?
I was also under the impression that Hill was a railroad baron, not a steel one. But the real person is the person of mettle, not steel.
Tim, my Valley interpretation is that "Franklin Magnet" might be thought of as a man of steel, but he's not real, though Benjamin Franklin has plenty of mettle. The idea being that Franklin Magnet School is part of Valley. It might work better with "Franklin Steel" instead of "Franklin Magnet" though.
I betcha we'll get the park pinned tonight or tomorrow night - especially if it's a bigger park. They have to use the next bunch to narrow down the exact location
medalionstalion, go back to your stable
I believe Hill was more of a railroad tycoon, namely the Pacific Railroad. Carnegie was the steel guy, Rockefeller was oil, and JP Morgan was banking. Are you sure the men of mettle and steel aren't statues?