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Rick Lundstrom

If everyone here was doing nothing but eating potato chips and drinking beer all day on government money, it would still be none of your business.

Thu, 12/22/2005 - 11:19 AM Permalink
Torpedo-8

And it's none of yours. But you can't see that. You keep sticking your nose in. Others can defend themselves. They don't need mama Rick. 

Thu, 12/22/2005 - 11:29 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

I know it's none of my business if everyone here was doing nothing but eating potato chips and drinking beer all day on government money,

But You can't see that.

Thu, 12/22/2005 - 11:42 AM Permalink
Byron White

I've seen Gibson's act, jethro. I've seen his horror stories shown to be untrue, and I've seen him keep telling them. No he is telling the truth. Why must you deny it?.

Now please, tell me, when retailers this year had their christmas merchandise on the shelves before halloween, when several radio stations in every major market are playing christmas carols 24/7 and have been since the first of the month, when christmas-related stuff is on exhibit everywhere, how can any person with two brain cells to rub together claim that there is a war being waged against christmas?Simple, stupid. They are taking the Christ out of Christmas. They don't want people to think about Christ. It is the result of lefties like you and your threats of filing law suits. It is creating an environment even for people that could not be sued to change their ways. 

Driving through Sioux City today, we saw simple and elaborate displays of both secular and religious christmas symbols in yards, on houses and in stores and malls. There is no sign of IEDs or car bombs being used against such displays, and I haven't heard of such on the news. Where is this war? In the courts, ass.

Thu, 12/22/2005 - 12:42 PM Permalink
Byron White

But the simple fact is that you cannot quote even #1 Case in which you have represented
anyone,
let alone WON a case.
I could. You can find my name in the case reporters. You could find it on west law if you knew it.
But the point is I don't want people like you to know what it is.

Thu, 12/22/2005 - 12:44 PM Permalink
Torpedo-8

Yes Rick, you are the pinnacle of hypocrisy.

 

Well well well...Ricky has moderator access. The squeaky liberal gets the grease.

Thu, 12/22/2005 - 12:49 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

I wouldn't dump you, torpedo, because I know how proud you would be. I wouldn't give you the satisfaction.

Thu, 12/22/2005 - 2:13 PM Permalink
THX 1138

I knew he would put his personal feelings aside for what's right.

I respect Rick for that.

Thu, 12/22/2005 - 2:26 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

If people would just use the judgement and sense that God gave an adult, there wouldn't be any problems.

Thu, 12/22/2005 - 2:35 PM Permalink
Byron White

I gave Rick host access because I knew he wouldn't misuse it.

I knew he would put his personal feelings aside for what's right.

It is a test. Does he have the true lefty instinct to quash all dissent? Or does he still have a smidgen of reason? Time will tell!

Thu, 12/22/2005 - 2:43 PM Permalink
Byron White

We told you earlier that President Clinton had defended his executive authority to perform wiretaps and searches of American citizens without a warrant and in fact, in February of 1995, authorized the attorney general "to approve physical searches, without a court order, to acquire foreign intelligence information."

Now it turns out that presidents going back to Jimmy Carter have authorized such actions. An executive order signed by President Carter in May of 1979 reads, "The attorney general is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign intelligence information without a court order."

Thu, 12/22/2005 - 5:25 PM Permalink
Byron White

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts says he's "puzzled" by that letter the committee's senior Democrat sent the vice president in 2003, expressing concerns over the NSA's domestic surveillance program — since he never heard those concerns at the time.

West Virginia Senator Jay Rockefeller released the letter this week and in it, complained that security restrictions kept him from consulting with experts on the program, while arguing that it raised "profound oversight issues." But Roberts says he recalls that Rockefeller voiced his support to the vice president at the time and as recently as two weeks ago. He adds that Rockefeller is releasing the letter at a "politically advantageous" time... and says he finds the move "a bit disingenuous."

Thu, 12/22/2005 - 5:26 PM Permalink
Byron White

Lastly, I think it is both Un-Christian and Un-American to have to be attacked,
daily,
by TORPEDO.

you do your share, fold. you deserve every attack that comes your way.

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 8:54 AM Permalink
Byron White

For the record, the stories in the book are true. I obtained the documents. I personally interviewed everybody involved except those people, like the ACLU, who refused to speak to me. I wrote every word in the book with my own ten fingers on my own keyboard.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 

This is a smear campaign by the very people conducting the war on Christmas. It is the organization of the guy who appeared Wednesday which works so hard to ban Christmas in schools and libraries and public parks and city halls by declaring the Christmas tree and Santa to be religious symbols of Christianity when the Supreme Court itself says they are secular symbols which can be displayed anywhere, even on public property. 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,179560,00.html

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 8:59 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

I'll withhold comment, because Gibson seems to say that no one can question him without reading his book.

Nice way to sell books and shut down criticism.

Those folks at Fox can work all the angles.

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 9:03 AM Permalink
Torpedo-8

Fold the victim, for the 217th time. I suppose it's society's fault you can't handle alcohol.

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 9:49 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

If he hasn't had a drink in that long, wouldn't that be evidence that he's handling it?

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 9:53 AM Permalink
Torpedo-8

No

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 9:58 AM Permalink
Byron White

I'll withhold comment, because Gibson seems to say that no one can question him without reading his book. I think he was referring to the specific accusation that he was lying.

Nice way to sell books and shut down criticism.

Those folks at Fox can work all the angles.  Dude, you ain't that far left. Are you aspiring to be?

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 11:11 AM Permalink
Byron White

Last week, the House of Representatives passed a resolution to protect the symbols and traditions of Christmas. The vote was 401-22 in favor of the resolution (5 voted "present"); below are the representatives that voted "nay."

http://www.billoreilly.com/blog#221686157760551481

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 12:57 PM Permalink
crabgrass

we are at war and this is the best use of our Representatives' time?

hell, this is almost as bad as when they stopped what they were doing to rename french fires.

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 2:42 PM Permalink
Byron White

Matth
ew 7:

Jesus said:

15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.




.16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?




.17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
 18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
 19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.




.20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them

and crabs says that Jesus said people should make no judgments.

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 2:46 PM Permalink
Byron White

and I am sure Jesus was thinking of the likes of crabs when He refferred to swine:




Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 2:48 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

Is crabs rending you?

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 3:14 PM Permalink
crabgrass

bodine thinks I have somehow done him harm.

BTW bodine... I'm not in any clothing that you might consider a sheep. I am not disguising my thoughts here.

"Judge not lest ye be judge"

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 4:24 PM Permalink
Byron White

bodine thinks I have somehow done him harm.

No. But your "thinking" if allowed to reproduce in the populace will destroy it.

"Judge not lest ye be judge"

"For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get."

I would be happy to be judged by the same standards I judge you.

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 4:34 PM Permalink
crabgrass

But your "thinking" if allowed to reproduce in the populace will destroy it.

uh... huh?

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 5:25 PM Permalink
pieter b

Orwell invented a word for that. It was a major offense in Oceania. Thoughtcrime.

Fri, 12/23/2005 - 10:55 PM Permalink
Torpedo-8

I love the smell of a Fold meltdown in the morning.

Hey dumbass, Rick accused you of the chips and beer thing, not me.

Your pathetic attempt to disguise yourself as Morti was laughable. Grade school, in fact.

The 217 was a guess. It's probably much greater than that.

You're a pure wackjob, Fold. I will continue to point that out.

Your fascination with me is troubling. Seek help.

Sat, 12/24/2005 - 8:19 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

"You accused me of eating chips and drinking beer, and I simply said I don't eat chips, don't drink, and haven't for many years."

I said that, but it wasn't about you, specifically, Bill.

I was talking to torpedo, the resident busybody when I said:

"If everyone here was doing nothing but eating potato chips and drinking beer all day on government money, it would still be none of your business. "

Sat, 12/24/2005 - 8:30 AM Permalink
Torpedo-8

Mama Rick to the rescue! You just can't help yourself, can you?

Sat, 12/24/2005 - 8:48 AM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

It's Chistmas, torpedo. Try a little decency.

Sat, 12/24/2005 - 8:49 AM Permalink
Torpedo-8

You used "resident busybody". I used "mama Rick". Have a chat with yourself. And while you're at it, use some of that PC wisdom on Fold. You want to be fair and balanced, right?

Sat, 12/24/2005 - 9:09 AM Permalink
pieter b

Using "Torpedo" and "decency" in the same sentence. Fifteen yards, loss of down.

Sat, 12/24/2005 - 10:01 AM Permalink
Torpedo-8

Using "pieter b" and "decency" in the same sentence. Ejected from the game.

Sat, 12/24/2005 - 10:23 AM Permalink
pieter b

Stealing smack in an obvious and transparent rubber/glue playground manner = barred for life.

Sat, 12/24/2005 - 10:46 AM Permalink
Torpedo-8

You're right. Substitute intelligent for decency.

Sat, 12/24/2005 - 12:09 PM Permalink
Byron White

I suggest that you lefties read Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline by Robert Bork. He has you guys pegged.

Wed, 12/28/2005 - 12:21 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

Bork's a bitter man. He has everyone pegged.

Wed, 12/28/2005 - 12:31 PM Permalink
Byron White

Bork's a bitter man.

If that were true his feelings are warranted. He was trashed by your kind of people. He was well qualified for the job.  Probably more qualified than anyone appointed in the last 100 years.

Thu, 12/29/2005 - 10:02 AM Permalink
crabgrass

Bork has values... poor ones... ones that tell him to fire the guy investigating his boss, despite his boss being guilty of what he was being investigated for. This is know as having a lack of moral character. He deserved to be denied a seat on the Supreme Court after demonstrating his principles took a back seat to helping cover up his boss' crimes.

Thu, 12/29/2005 - 11:49 AM Permalink
THX 1138

Not me, but some would.

Thu, 12/29/2005 - 12:24 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

All I know is that he's a bitter, sanctimonious man, who seems to be nursing a helluva grudge.

Every time I see him on television or read a column or hear him on the radio he's indignantly fretting about something.

I guess that's why they keep asking him back and telling him how brilliant he is.

He needs to stop brooding and go bowling once in awhile.

Thu, 12/29/2005 - 1:08 PM Permalink
Byron White

Bork has values... poor ones... ones that tell him to fire the guy investigating his boss, despite his boss being guilty of what he was being investigated for. He is great values, American values. Something that you do not understand.This is know as having a lack of moral character. He deserved to be denied a seat on the Supreme Court after demonstrating his principles took a back seat to helping cover up his boss' crimes. Doing the job that you were asked to do by your boss, the job you are being paid for, is a good thing. Bork broke no laws.

Thu, 12/29/2005 - 1:36 PM Permalink
Byron White

All I know is that he's a bitter, sanctimonious man, who seems to be nursing a helluva grudge. A grudge? Do you have something that you can point to that leads you to that dubious conclusion?

Every time I see him on television or read a column or hear him on the radio he's indignantly fretting about something. He sees the world going to hell in a hand basket. The reaction is reasonable. 

I guess that's why they keep asking him back and telling him how brilliant he is. He is brilliant. He should be on the Court today.

He needs to go bowling once in awhile. Do you know that he doesn't?

Thu, 12/29/2005 - 1:38 PM Permalink
Rick Lundstrom

"Do you have something that you can point to that leads you to that dubious conclusion?"

It's an observation, not a conclusion.

"Do you know that he doesn't?"

No way. Even if he was, a bowler he'd stop after he saw The Big Lebowski.

Thu, 12/29/2005 - 1:42 PM Permalink
Byron White

WASHINGTON -- 'Tis the end of 2005 and time to look back. In politics what do I see? Well, I see the Republican party struggling against high seas. In the media the party is depicted as being in danger of losing to the Democrats in the off-year elections next fall. That probably will be the case, unless the Republicans have to run against the Democrats. Against the Democrats they could win with Warren Harding in the White House.

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/emmetttyrrell/2005/12/29/180614.html

Thu, 12/29/2005 - 1:43 PM Permalink
Byron White

Nothing brings out racist slurs like an ambitious black man who doesn't know his "place." So when Maryland's lieutenant governor, Michael Steele, announced his candidacy for the US Senate recently, the bigots reared up. On one popular website, The News Blog, Steele's picture was grotesquely doctored, making him look like a minstrel-show caricature. "I's Simple Sambo and I's Running for the Big House," read the insulting headline accompanying the picture.
 
    This wasn't some white supremacist slime from the right-wing fringe. The News Blog is a liberal site, and the reason for its racist attack on Steele, a former chairman of the Maryland Republican Party, is that he is a conservative. Specifically, a black conservative. As far as too many liberals are concerned, blacks who reject liberalism deserve to be smeared as Sambos and worse.

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/jeffjacoby/2005/12/29/180617.html

Thu, 12/29/2005 - 1:48 PM Permalink