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2001 Pioneer Press Treasure Hunt

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Discuss the 2001 Pioneer Press Treasure Hunt Here

Scribe

Later Sue!:)

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:14 AM Permalink
Downtown Dave

Oh, there was a bit of an upset last night, 'cuz Twin Cities.com had the clue on as Circular thinking may be one way of linking, but the PP had it as thinking twice--so some folks were wondering which one was official--I am going with paper.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:20 AM Permalink
lelej

Hello I am new here this is a really nice site I was just thinking about all the clues. I was thinking dock logo= hockey and the last clue spelled city= hockey city new to St Paul I was also thinking of the gold as in the salvation army pot at kellog park. Just a couple of ideas.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:21 AM Permalink
ares

scribe, not all of us here don't get any sleep :). allison is, i'm sure, in his coffin right now (there's that vampire thing again. bad jason. bad. bad.) i imagine dave and winger are sleeping too. i'll let you figure out where thx is.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:22 AM Permalink
Scribe

I'm with you Dave! I'm bettin on Mom!

So the clue is:

Circular thinking can be one way of thinking.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:23 AM Permalink
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I think digger1 is on to something. He didn't mention the 2 circular guard towers at the entrance at Fort Selling. I am going to check it out tonight to see if bigger is accurate!

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:23 AM Permalink
THX 1138

Just for you Scribe

Circular Thinking

Circular thinking is a quite distinct way of thinking and works according to the principle that "things develop on their own". The basic goal of circular thinking is not to pursue one's own goals, but to lead a fulfilled life, which entails conforming as much as possible to nature and it's laws. In circular thinking, intuition, an instinct and feeling for interactions and interrelationships, has a higher value than precise knowledge. Material things are just the transient embodiment of an universal world spirit. This is an orientation that has recently been promulgated in the West, and not only by those interested in energo-cybernetics, but also by leading physicists, chemists and biologists. However, they refer to this invisible, creative force not as a universal spirit, but as energy.

At first sight, the behavior of plants seems to contradict this circular thinking. Early in the year, in summer, autumn and winter, they passively accept nutritional shortages or excesses. They appear to resign themselves automatically to internal and external circumstances. However, this appearance is deceptive. In reality, their behavior is focused clearly on "bottlenecks" and minimum factors; they concentrate their energies on the point most cybernetically effective point for their development. For example, they attempt to overcome shortages of a specific mineral through increased root formation, or a lack of sunlight by leaning twigs in that direction. Plants, therefore, strive to cope optimally with autonomous external forces through maximum-impact use of their internal capabilities.

Through linear thinking, too much is changed too autonomously. Circular thinking, on the other hand, changes too little. Linear behavior leads to an "explosion" to all sides and to a loss of natural growth. Circular thinking tends to result in an unproductive movement within a closed circle. The behavior of plants shows the way to a better mode of thinking and acting. Their own forces are concentrated on the most effective point within a natural development, thus accelerating a natural process. This has the effect of linking optimally, one's own forces with those which are already intrinsic to natural developments (evolutionary forces)

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:23 AM Permalink
Scribe

Hey Ares! Well I know where THX is......at least I think I do!

Ares,do you want my lecture on stayin up late on these early clues?

You think your draggin now just wait till friday!

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:25 AM Permalink
jakeinge

So in effect, DON'T READ TOO MUCH INTO THE CLUES!!!!

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:26 AM Permalink
Downtown Dave

Whoa George Lucas' first film guy--you just earned yourself a bookmark.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:27 AM Permalink
Scribe

O geez! Circular thinking IS Euphorian!

I'm gonna have a hard time with this..........

Thanks King Darth!:)

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:27 AM Permalink
ares

i've been known to make mistakes before. thx thx for the circular thinking explanation. it all makes sense to me now about that line. mom wrote that clue just for us. let things roll out on their own.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:27 AM Permalink
THX 1138

Circular Thinking

An engineer, a physicist, and a mathematician are shown a pasture with a herd of sheep, and told to put them inside the smallest possible amount of fence.

The engineer is first. He herds the sheep into a circle and then puts the fence around them, declaring, "A circle will use the least fence for a given area, so this is the best solution."

The physicist is next. She creates a circular fence of infinite radius around the sheep, and then draws the fence tight around the herd, declaring, "This will give the smallest circular fence around the herd."

The mathematician is last. After giving the problem a little thought, he puts a small fence around himself and then declares, "I define myself to be on the outside!"

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:28 AM Permalink
Scribe

Dave ,only a certain breed of people would know that...........your scaring me:)

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:28 AM Permalink
jakeinge

LOL Very good thx

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:29 AM Permalink
Scribe

THX, So what your saying is that the math guy is thinking circular,right?

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:30 AM Permalink
jakeinge

I believe we discussed circular thinking in great detail in philosophy.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:30 AM Permalink
Scribe

Hey Jakey!

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:30 AM Permalink
THX 1138

Thanks jake,

Back to work I go. Have fun all!

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:30 AM Permalink
Scribe

Later Gator!!:)

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:31 AM Permalink
jakeinge

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:31 AM Permalink
Downtown Dave

Yep, lunchtime is over--see y'all closer to clue time.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:32 AM Permalink
Scribe

Hey! you didn't tell me if the math guy was right!!!

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:32 AM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

Circular thinking tends to result in an unproductive movement within a closed circle.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:32 AM Permalink
jakeinge

Especially in this hunt. The question is do I dig today or not....

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:32 AM Permalink
Scribe

Somebody talk to me like I'm five,here!

I hate philosophy,I hate philosophy!

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:33 AM Permalink
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An anagram for thinking is "hint king" obviously referring to Boreas, but the circular must be referring to the towers or the large airport satellite dishes in plain view from the golf course.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:34 AM Permalink
Scribe

HELLLLLOOOOOO! Jakey! Help me out here!

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:34 AM Permalink
lelej

I am new herw is there somewhere to learn more about what the cooler crew is all about it looks like alot of fun?

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:34 AM Permalink
jakeinge

Phalen- Wheelock parkway (wheels, circular) round lake (round, circular)

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:35 AM Permalink
Scribe

Welcome lel!

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:35 AM Permalink
King Boreas aka Ian

circular thinking = crucial night rink

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:36 AM Permalink
ares

thanks for the laugh thx. consider me to be the mathematician.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:36 AM Permalink
Scribe

Okay fine let me know just say I'm thouroughly cofused!

Jake,explain this philisophical circular thinking to me,bottom line it,IN ENGLISH PLEEEAAASE!

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:37 AM Permalink
Scribe

Figures you'd think that was funny Ares!

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:37 AM Permalink
lelej

Thanks scribe I have been trying to post on here for awhile I couldnt figure it out lol but now I know how and want to join the action

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:38 AM Permalink
jakeinge

I don't think that line has any philisophical meaning. It just says "think of circles, like a wheel and a lake called "round lake". It is the only thing that makes any sense.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:39 AM Permalink
Scribe

This your first hunt lel?

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:39 AM Permalink
jakeinge

So do I think it is in Phalen? It is quite possible, but it is still very early on. But I am not going to do any good sitting on my keester all day neither.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:40 AM Permalink
Scribe

Okay I feel better now Jake! My head was starting to throb there..........

Yeah they can't get to complicated on these clues......people like me like to hunt tooooooooooo!

What do you think about Kellogg Jakey? To obvious for the third clue?

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:41 AM Permalink
jakeinge

So I may go dig for a little while.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:41 AM Permalink
Scribe

Dave! I thought lunch was over!:)

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:42 AM Permalink
ares

what, scribe, just because i had a math minor?

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:42 AM Permalink
Scribe

Not me Jake,I think it's still to early,I'm gettin old and need to save my energy.Besides I've done my share diggin up wrong parks the last ten years!GOOD LUCK my friend!

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:43 AM Permalink
Scribe

What the heck kind of person minors in math????

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:44 AM Permalink
Snowball 2

Hey Diggers,

Any thoughts on the 'bank account won't be shrinking' line.

Any banks close to the parks? See a bank from the park? (Fist National, Downtown Saint Paul) Hidden in a snowbank? (Melting = Shrinking) Hidden in a checkbook?

What do you guys think.

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:45 AM Permalink
jakeinge

More to calm myself down then to actually find it..... I get uneasy sitting here when the puck is out there. I don't know what I am going to do yet....

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:45 AM Permalink
Scribe

I'll be scouting for sure........but digging no,not yet!

You be at McGovern's tonight Jake?

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:46 AM Permalink
jakeinge

Anyways, I am off to pick up some lunch. Bye!

Tue, 01/23/2001 - 11:46 AM Permalink