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me2

If anyone is interested in caving, please feel welcome to attend a meeting. They are the 2nd Wednesday of every month at the U of M campus -Pillsbury Hall at 7 pm -the unfortunate part is parking- usually cost me $5-7 bucks a month. Memberships are $15 a yr. and you get a really cool newsletter.

Mon, 04/05/2004 - 12:14 PM Permalink
KC0GRN

Cool me2, I enjoyed reading your last post about exploring the caves. Sounds like fun.

Mon, 04/05/2004 - 12:29 PM Permalink
me2

fun but always COOOOOOLD! approx 47-55 degrees. my hand got too cold to take notes-even in gloves.

Mon, 04/05/2004 - 12:31 PM Permalink
KC0GRN

hehe, cold is great come august ;) They have any cave exploring opportunities then?

Mon, 04/05/2004 - 12:54 PM Permalink
me2

KC- all year ---doesn't matter the temp outside its always a 'balmy' 47-55 inside ;)

Tue, 04/06/2004 - 10:37 AM Permalink
KITCH

4 Apr 04

3 days ago we left Kuwait to move to Baghdad.

It's hard to explain how hard it is to prepare for a trip that is only the distance from Minneapolis to Fargo. Back home you just jump in the car and don't think much about it. Here, we go over every contingency that may happen, practice what your going to do if something does happen and then pray nothing does.

Before we left Kuwait, the main planning keys to moving safely are:

1- Travel in large convoys

2- Keep 100 meters between all vehicles

3- Have all the equipment you need in case of a breakdown

4- Drive fast! (It's hard to hit a moving target with mortars or RPGs.)

That was the plan... here's what happened.

Day one we had to go from Camp NY to place on the Iraq border called Navistar with 150 personnel and 40 vehicles. Only about 50 miles and fairly safe. It gives you a chance to work some of the bugs out. I think my vehicle had the first glitch. The tow chain we had on the front of my vehicle came off and was dragging on the road. It sounded like we threw a rod or broke something in the drive train. Not really a big deal but you don't want to fall out of the convoy; there is safety in numbers (rule 1). Right about that time, one of LT BBBB's(Kitch's edit) vehicles broke down. I forget what the reason was but it required a maintenance vehicle to go back and get it.

Breakdowns are a lot of work. Everything is done by self recovery meaning no one coming out to fix you; our unit has to do it as the rest of the convoy moves on. That means we leave 2 vehicles for security, 1 wrecker, 1 maintenance team, and the 1SG or XO. So we left the vehicles back to fix the broken down vehicle and within 30 mins they were back on the road.

Mean while we were having issues with the spacing of the rest of the convoy (rule 2). You can be too close together and you make an easy target or too far apart and you make it hard to control. 40 vehicles speeding down the road stretches out almost 3 miles if you do it right. It's hard to do.

We made it to Navistar fine and the wrecker towed in the broke vehicle shortly after we arrived. There we staged the vehicles for the next days move with every other unit going north. Basically it's a giant parking lot made up of 20 to 25 rows of 40 vehicles each. They served steak and lobster at the dinning facility that evening. We slept on or next to our vehicles.

Day two we had a departure time of 0345am. Starting at 0300am a convoy leaves every 15 minutes until every unit is on the road make one giant convoy (rule 1). Driving in the dark is fine by me. So we crossed the border about 0400 and went to weapon status amber. That means every weapon has a magazine loaded in but no round in the chamber. (Status red means round in the chamber and ready to fire.) Most Iraqis is the southern part of the country are friendly and no need to be shooting everything that moves.

By 0415am we had broke rules 2 and 4. There was a lot of traffic and sometimes we were going 5mph because a local was driving down the wrong side of the road or 60mph and playing catch up. Lot of radio chatter that morning in our convoy, radio checks or status checks. I think everyone finds it a little more comforting knowing someone can hear you on the radio and that you're not just alone in the dark in a hostile country.

As the sun came up, you can tell you're not in Kuwait anymore. Kuwait is a desert, sand for miles. Iraq is desert, but much greener and a lot more livestock (by livestock I mean camels and sheep). It's similar to driving across South Dakota in the early spring only instead of farm house they live in little tiny tents. And then we started to see people on the side of the road. The Highway was 6 lanes and traffic was fairy heavy, mostly military going north and civilian oil trucks going south. And the kids would stand right on the edge of the highway. Most would wave or give a thumbs up. But its scary seeing 3, 4, 5 year olds alone right up next to the traffic. Some of them would make a gesture to their mouth or shout "FOOD" in English. I think early in the year many of the convoys threw out mRE's or bottled water as a sign of good will. But now we don't do that. Let the humanitarian efforts do that. But it's hard not too... these people are poor, I mean the tent I go camping with is bigger than what these people live in. It's really a different world...

By 0800 we made our first pit stop for fuel and port-o-johns at Tillil. (Interesting fact about Tillil, its 2 miles from the ancient city of Er where Abraham lived) Most guys had already filled up an empty water bottle or two by this time. You got to go when you got to go and there ain't no stopping a tactical convoy.

Back on the road and the sand storm start up. We had been on paved road all morning, but when we got to the Euphrates River, it went to 6 lanes of gravel. The blowing sand is just like a blizzard only warmer. Visibility was less then 10 feet at times and we lost sight of vehicle in front of us many times. Which mean driving slow, rule 4, not good. 50 miles of these conditions and every vehicle has one or more guys outside in the gunner hatch or in the back of a vehicle taking the whole brunt of this in the face. The wind burn was brutal. But everyone did their job, covered their sectors of fire and no one bitched. Our gunner's rock!

12 hours after we start day two we arrive in Scania where would stay the night. It just another pit stop for food and fuel and a safe place to spend the night. The place is a hole and it would suck to be assigned to this joint. But they man the towers and walk the wire so our convoy can sleep.

Day 3 started off bad and I should have known that it wouldn't get any better. We were supposed to leave at 0700am, right behind a unit (1-303 Armor) with 3 serials of 50 vehicles each. It's the start of daylight savings today and whether they forgot to reset there watches or just missed they slot to move out, we didn't get to leave until about 0800am. The stretch of road from Scania to Baghdad is not friendly and convoys get shot at weekly or daily basis. Its only 75 miles and you really want to drive fast to be safe. Most everyone was feeling more confident and we were going to own the road, the best defense is a good offense. Weapon status was amber and each platoon was given the ok to go to red if they felt threatened.

And then LT XXX's(kitch's edit) vehicle (the lead vehicle) hit a civilian vehicle. No one was hurt but both vehicles un-drivable and had flat tires. They were going under a bridge and switching lanes when the civilian vehicle entered their blind spot from the rear. They shoved them in the center median and crushed their front end. Iraqi's know better than to pass a tactical convoy but they do it anyway.

As the rest of the convoy continued on, I pulled out to assist along with 2 security vehicles, maintenance teams and a wrecker. One of my jobs as XO is to be the claims officer for the battery and assess the monetary values to damage we do in country. If it's not tactically related, the army will pay out the locals for damage we cause. This was our first solo one on one contact with local Iraqis. And meeting up with a couple guys that we just ran off the road who may or may not like us wasn't something I or anyone else was looking forward too.

It ended up that they loved Americans and hated Saddam, every time they said his name they would stomp their feet and say "Saddam bad, no good" and that was the extent of their English. Even in the desert in the middle of a highway we drew a crew. After as much information as I could get from them and about their car they gave me a kiss and shook our hands may times. We had to leave them to fend for themselves and get back to fixing our trucks.

It took about an hour and half to get the two flats fixed. We came to find that our standard jack won't lift our new armored hummvees, too heavy. Our maintenance crew had to use the arm on the wrecker to lift the vehicle and swap out tires. Even then we still had to tow the vehicle.

As this was going on, the local kids started to approach and asked for PEPSI and food. They were four of them about 6 or 7 years old. And their English was better then the adults. We ended up giving them a few Cokes and all of our writing pens. The kids love pens and if you want to send anything, send more pens! Again, we can't give them food but they think pens are great and it's a nice gesture.

Back on the road, my vehicle was in the lead and we were an hour and a half behind, (remember rule 1?). We were out of radio range with the rest of the unit and knew that they had an escort to lead them in once they got to Baghdad. (It's a city of 5.5million people, an escort is a big help). If we didn't catch up we would be on our own. And of course we didn't...

By the time we reached the outskirts of Baghdad, the rest of the Battery had arrived safely. Early that morning we had been brief in Scania not to take the exit to Baghdad International Airport and go to the exit spray painted BIAP. And of course this was the exit we were supposed to take, but not knowing this, I move our little convoy up to the next exit that, on the map, showed a road cutting straight over to the airport. Map and road here really don't match up too well as we soon learned. We exited off a large over pass which instantly turn into a dirt road. It didn't take long to realize that this is not a place we wanted be in but the road was too narrow to turn the wrecker around because of the cannels on each side. We were only about 4 miles from where we need to be but the road suddenly dead-end at some local's house. These maps suck!! I'm sure it was quite a scene for the family to watch us get that wrecker to make a u-turn. Also, we came to find out then next day that there had been an RPG attack against the US compound not more than 500 meters from where we made the u-turn 30 minutes before we arrived.

So we ended up back tracking to the exit we were told not to take, which really was the right one. This road is the main highway through Baghdad, and at 2 in the afternoon it was like rush hour traffic. And guess what happens next...Sgt Soper's vehicle tire goes flat! This day can't get any worse. Our tires are run flats which mean you can drive on it for about 30 miles at 35 mph if it goes flat or until it starts to smoke and fall off.

So there we are, breaking rules 1 through 4, one towed vehicle and one with a flat and no where to stop and fix it. We made it to about 2 miles outside of Camp Victory when the tire did start to smoke and we had to stop. Luckily, traffic was a little lighter and there was a small shoulder on the side. We set up a road block, secured the area and let the maintenance team go to work. Pointing your .50 cal at vehicles really does make people slow down fast and we weren't about to let anyone mess with us this close to our destination.

With everything fixed, quickly found the rest of our unit who were a welcome site. We now call Camp Victory home and everyone is doing well. Despite what you see on news, everyone is secure and looking forward to our next year's worth of missions.

I miss everyone and can't wait to come home to where everything is normal again.

Tue, 04/06/2004 - 10:55 AM Permalink
KC0GRN

KC- all year ---doesn't matter the temp outside its always a 'balmy' 47-55 inside ;)

Yeah but I was under the impression most caves are closed off to the public, hence the exploration groups or whatnot. Maybe there's ones you can go in, like tours or something, guess I just never thought about it, but come to think of it, 47-55 in the hottest part of summer, would be a great activity to do then.

Tue, 04/06/2004 - 12:58 PM Permalink
me2

Kitch? who was that who wrote to you? relative?
great "from the front" letter!
Thanks for sharing it!

I heard on 91.1 MN public radio today that troops were pulling out around June 30th...anyone else hear anything to confirm this?

Tue, 04/06/2004 - 7:03 PM Permalink
KOP

their never pulling out.just turning over power to Iraq GOV.. ya right

Tue, 04/06/2004 - 7:52 PM Permalink
Frosti

My BIL just arrived in Baghdad, and he's signed on for 12 months, possibly 18. I think some troops may be shifting, but they're not leaving.

Tue, 04/06/2004 - 8:15 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

Spent 15 hours working on this one I am going to give it to my boss he was a sniper in the 101st during Veit Nam and he is a direct descendent of Crazy Horse.

Tue, 04/06/2004 - 8:53 PM Permalink
Clue Master

That's cooler ESD - We just bought a huge Indian dream catcher a couple of days ago at Wall Drug in SD. It's way cool.

Oh, and thanks for posting Kitch

Tue, 04/06/2004 - 9:47 PM Permalink
Wicked Nick

Wall Drug kicks ass...

Wed, 04/07/2004 - 3:16 AM Permalink
East Side Digger

Thanks CM

Wed, 04/07/2004 - 5:26 AM Permalink
KITCH

um...the letter is a from a buddy of mine....
he is from burnsville and he has a wife and one little boy...
i'm not sure what unit is traveling with but I know he just got there and is on a 18 month trip...

I think he left at thanksgiving and went to the seattle area for a long time in training...then to kuwait to train some more....no in the mess it looks like....

Wed, 04/07/2004 - 6:32 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

keep 'em coming when you get them! interesting!

Wed, 04/07/2004 - 7:17 PM Permalink
Randahl

tried several times to get to invite page - either its down or i wore out my welcome!!

HOW IS EVERYONE??

rrr

Wed, 04/07/2004 - 9:17 PM Permalink
Clue Master

RRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnnnnDY
RRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUsssssssssTTT!!!!

Wed, 04/07/2004 - 9:24 PM Permalink
me2

hi Randy- hope you stop in more often
it has been quiet around here

very neat ESD!

CM? family trip? did you hit Yellowstone? or just SD?

hamster may be sick AND poor girl was rolling around in her ball and one of the girls left the basement door open and down she bounced :( she has a nasty split above her nose :(

Fri, 04/09/2004 - 8:11 PM Permalink
Clue Master

CM? family trip? did you hit Yellowstone? or just SD?

Just me and da wife for our 10th out in the Black Hills. Kid was shipped around all week. She liked it and so did we. I miss my digital camera tho.

Sorry to hear about your rat problem. I just picked up some Decon from Walgreens for our little infestation too ;-)

On another note - the kid learned to ride a bike today without any training wheels! She never really had any bike time at all in the past so this was cool. She was so excited that she went riding around in the dark on the road a few minutes ago. Of course daddy was there to keep the drunks away.

Fri, 04/09/2004 - 8:56 PM Permalink
Randahl

you guys rock - we need to all keep warm again in the durango ;)

Fri, 04/09/2004 - 9:16 PM Permalink
me2

rat problem? DOH!
you just wait til Ali wants one, I have become attached -I ended up feeding her every night and giving her 'human touch'-she has become my hamster.

My Durango is always open ;) JOE!

Saw a wild turkey in Alice Park 2 days ago! ran into the condo's driveway.

also there was a fire at 4:30 am last friday night in the garage of the apartments 2 houses over from here-at Ohio and Robie-I dont know if I mentioned it last week or not with everything going on around here.

Fri, 04/09/2004 - 10:13 PM Permalink
Wicked Nick

hold on... are we talkin about the Durango truck, or the Tequila?

Fri, 04/09/2004 - 10:55 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

Thanks Me2

Sat, 04/10/2004 - 5:54 AM Permalink
THX 1138


Hey ESD, the vanity looks great in Scribes Salon.

Sat, 04/10/2004 - 11:51 AM Permalink
East Side Digger

Cooler I will tell Dawg, The babys room is coming along nice.

Sat, 04/10/2004 - 1:52 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

What up crew first day of the 4th quarter its nice to be back in school.

Mon, 04/12/2004 - 3:19 PM Permalink
me2

Well I drove up to Harris, MN for an Easter egg hunt for the girls at a friends home...on the way to our aunts house in Highland park at 1:08 pm we were at about Highway 35 just before Pennsylvania -traveling southbound when a woman "reached over for her lighter" and swerved into my lane...scraping my truck drivers side door with her mirror :( dented the door. we stopped at Pennsylvania and switched information. Her license plate number was KICKIT.

sooooo, I get to my aunts house and find that my mom had gone to get my sister because she had also gotten into an accident!!!!!

A man came up behind her and then drove up next to her and drove her into a gaurd rail at 280 going onto eastbound 94 :(

she ended up with lots of damage on her passengers front corner.

HAMSTER is doing good.

Mon, 04/12/2004 - 3:49 PM Permalink
THX 1138


Day 1 of jury duty sucked.

Just sat there all day without a case.

At least I don't have to go in tomorrow.

We'll see what happens for Wednesday.

Mon, 04/12/2004 - 4:33 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

Sorry to hear about you accident me2 hope your mom is ok.
THX do you at least get paid for jury duty?

Mon, 04/12/2004 - 4:44 PM Permalink
Frosti

Too many cooler car accidents lately. Drive safe everybunny!

Mon, 04/12/2004 - 4:56 PM Permalink
KT

Hoppy easter- eggs!

Mon, 04/12/2004 - 5:31 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

And Hoppy back at ya KT

Mon, 04/12/2004 - 5:54 PM Permalink
THX 1138


THX do you at least get paid for jury duty?

I get paid at my work. Plust I get $20.00 a day from the county. But I don't have to go tomorrow so, I'll be working at least tomorrow.

Mon, 04/12/2004 - 7:53 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

Thats cool

Mon, 04/12/2004 - 9:43 PM Permalink
East Side Digger

Me2 was that your husband I just saw on ch 11?

Tue, 04/13/2004 - 8:33 AM Permalink
East Side Digger

I had my first web design class today the wonderful world of html, looks like it will be a fun class.

Tue, 04/13/2004 - 3:38 PM Permalink
Randahl

can be anything you wish there ron jon!

Whats everyone doing for kix?

Tue, 04/13/2004 - 7:49 PM Permalink
me2

yup that was my 'ME' on Kare 11
He was on twice this week-and that one you saw was on his 'day off'!
he will be on once a week for the next 4-6 weeks
(I think on Tuesdays but not sure of the day)

He will be on KLBB 1400 ---ooooohyeah AM radio -
every Friday for the next month.

Wed, 04/14/2004 - 6:32 AM Permalink
me2

oh and it was my sister and I who both were in accidents on Easter.
My mom went to pick up my sister cause she couldn't drive her truck.

Anyone wanna dog sit a 9 year old friendly, spade ROTT?
PLEEEAAAAZE, anyone?
a friend needs her to go to a home by this Sunday for 8 weeks!
she will pay for all food and other dog neccessities.
She is going in for some 'treatment' -don't know what for- depression I think.

Wed, 04/14/2004 - 6:37 AM Permalink
East Side Digger

There is a Big Fire burning some where by 494 and the river, I can see the smoke from Brown College.
And Me2 sorry can't help with the dog we have three already

Wed, 04/14/2004 - 5:36 PM Permalink
KITCH

8 weeks on a rott...good luck on that one....sorry I can't help...my black lab would wanna fight...

Wed, 04/14/2004 - 5:54 PM Permalink
Pay Me

hello everyone. It has been a long time. Looks like it has been quiet in here. Hope all is going well. The hubby started day shift this week so things are a bit nutty. I would love to take the dog by my apartment doesnt let us.

oh and a joe!

Wed, 04/14/2004 - 5:56 PM Permalink
THX 1138


Hey Pay Me.

Yeah, it's been kind of quiet around here.

It comes and goes in spurts of activity.

Wed, 04/14/2004 - 6:29 PM Permalink
Terry

Hello!

Feels like ages since I've been here for more than slogging to catch up.

With some budget concerns at work, I had to workforce reduce one person this week. Really sucks big time to have to put someone out of work. We've been at this budget stuff for about 6 weeks and it's meant crazy dreams when I sleep and hours of laying awake at night trying to find a solution. Hopefully now that we've done the best we could, sleep will be better. And hopefully the person that got let go will find opportunity in this eventually.

Then just so I can rest assured that my family is safe and happy, my Mom got an email from my son in Guatemala today. Part of it is this: When I was coming back from seeing Brenda, I was almost in a head on crash in the foggy mountains, and later in the ride some wacko pulled a pistol on the bus driver 'cause the felt the driver was cutting him off. Then a few weeks ago, some nutjob storms my bus and grabs the machete kept in the door and starts threatening the driver 'cause he's blocking the road. The wacko shut the bus door so the driver's helpers could board and rescue him. They kinda fight and eventually the nutjob leaves the bus and takes the driver's machete with him. You gotta love this country. :-)

I think I'm graying faster lately. No wonder!!!!!

Wed, 04/14/2004 - 6:56 PM Permalink
Frosti

At least they havebus service! ;)

Wed, 04/14/2004 - 8:39 PM Permalink
Clue Master

At least they have bus service! ;)

Funny shit Frosti!!

Hi TV and PM

Wed, 04/14/2004 - 9:35 PM Permalink
KC0GRN

Hey CM, you still got that travel bug? I leave for washington on the 22nd.

Wed, 04/14/2004 - 10:44 PM Permalink
Clue Master

I'm real sorry I haven't hooked up with you KC. Things have been hectic lately. I haven't even played a game of disc golf this year yet and the weather has been great (except for those Eagan residents)
I still have the little Crusty in my car. My other half is out of town this weekend for her birthday (without her family I may add) so Ali and I can hook up sometime. I want to cache out one of your buttons on Saturday if you wanna hang out and laugh at us as we look for it.

Thu, 04/15/2004 - 12:20 AM Permalink