the entire park of Crosby is a nature center- pretty much just beyond the 'shelter'. this clue is only helping the clueless, or those who wish for a better clue. It is REALLY looking like the last 2 hunts, where pretty much every clue tells you the park, and clue 12 tells 124,000 people to "go find it" The only difference is that this year, instead of putting 'it' in a small dense patch of woods, they're giving us a couple hundred acres of woods to look in. I'm still intrigued. I just got home, and wish&pray that all those still down there will say the same later on.
FYI The cost to turn on the power at Crosby is $45. We will be there for the RHB.
And I should also mention that we burned OTiS'S pants in the fire pit, so he needs to get a new pair. With all that said, SCD'S & MCL everyone! I have some left over caramel rolls, and pre-ground Folgers. I ain't capable of anything else at this time.
oh, one more thing- JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Edited 2 times. Most recently by on Jan 27, 2005 at 12:23am.]
Well- have no fear- sir underdog- but we were having fun wanging our chung tonight. There may have been some lichen, but I was not a witness to any of it.
just got back from crosby, i walked the entire trail. I'm tired and cold and if that thing is found at crosby before clue ten, then its a set up. That place is so big, with so many trees and woods that you would have to be the luckiest person in the world if you found it.
So, for those who double back into the conversation thread when they wake up in the morning, I'm going to do my late night blah-blah thing with what I think so far. Ignore it, absorb it, or respond to it so I can do my own double back on my first of many clue noodlin' coffee breaks.
Crosby it is. I feel about as good about it as I have ever felt about a park. The Elway/Gannon field generals bookending Homer was the kicker...I mean the quarterback. That was just such a precious clue. I don't think the clue writers are trying to throw us off. It's a good time to use a weird park. People are sick of klutzing around behemoths like Phalen and Como but they don't want the short hunts of Merriam and Newell. This has Conway status.
Granted, Crosby is much bigger than Conway, but the writers are being careful to rule out big chunks of the park. And they're being extra careful to keep hunters away from dangerous parts of the park, because if memory serves correctly, Crosby is wilder than most St. Paul parks. Folks could get hurt if they wander too far off hiking paths.
Now I read somewhere -- here or at the Pioneer Press discussion thread, I forget which -- that there's a big ol' tree that's obviously toppled across a path but has been munched out of the way with a chainsaw. True? If so, I like the bivouac potential of that area.
Bivouac as in set'cher self up with an encampment, but also as a scan for "solid shelter." Also for clearings amongst the "wood to burn."
Why do I care about a fallen tree? I'm still thinking about the "What's that you hear?" portion of Clue 3. If there is a huge fallen tree that was chopped to unblock a hiking path, I think the clue writers are saying "yo, we didn't cut the tree down just to make a landmark." It's a play on "If a tree falls in the woods, does anyone hear it?"
Others have tried to attach "a giant falls" to this tree, which would be doubly delicious, but I'm feeling pretty good about sirens and giants giving us Homer.
Yes Greg...there is a huge tree that looks like it was growing split at one point in time. When it fell, each side went it's one way. The base is on the east side of the main trail with large sections on both sides. Most of the "chainsawed"timber has been moved to the west side of the trail.
Online chatter at the "official" discussion board is blowing up Clue 5's "helter skelter" with Beatles, Manson, and even Byrds (David Crosby) references. About the only angle I like there is that "Helter Skelter" is on The White Album and a white jewel case would be a terrific thing to hide it in. Also, the editor in me wonders why "helter skelter" is set off by commas in the clue. It's unnecessary thus maybe it's important.
From the front line: I read that somebody was caught at Crosby removing trail marker numbers. That's not in the spirit of the game, a$$hole.
Why do I fear that somebody is going to think they need to tear branches down to create "room and wood to burn" before this thing is done. Egads.
I tried it, No one found my "cooler" mark in the snow yet (as far as I know). I posted the "cooler pic" a while back! Been there since clue 2. Know where the beaver is at crosby? I do. That an the easy chair,,,Thats your mark. E-gram me and I'll fill you in if need be. Love ya bro!
I'm serious....Next year I think we should make a game out of find each others mark. Be it in the tree or something hung on a tree. Things like that will keep our eyes moving and shape while were are roaming the woods.
One of the two places I marked the snow was right near that huge tree that was cut up across the path.
For those who don't know me, don't yell at me for being an online squatter. I don't need any "go to the park, computer geek" comments. I'm writing to you from San Francisco. I'd love to be among y'all, but I'm afraid it's not possible again this year.
But I do have a cell phone force keeping me in the loop from search sites. I love it. It makes me feel all Brando in Apocalypse Now.
Hoping we get to the double digits in clues this year...
Just got back from CB. Ian 3M & I were last to leave from the CC. There was probably still 10-15 people out there. It's there. If not, people will be pretty pissed. Even met a guy named Wes who showed us pix of last years medallion as soon as it was found. It was way bigger than the one shown at the theater that their bidding on. huh
I still like the area back by the new shelter better than the fire pit one where we hung out all night. Nice fire starter KTÂ
Hey Saxy!!  Wow! Long time no blab. You looked good in the movie. Wish you were hear too guy. We had a good time tonight out at the park and I think your name came up a couple of times. You need to head up here and join us. What's San Fran got that we aint got anyway?
There's a real nice hunting area that could have huge potential due to all the landmarks. We'll see.
If not - Try Central
Later & SCD's
[Edited 4 times. Most recently by on Jan 27, 2005 at 02:52am.]
how about a list of all the parks with a fire ring and a shelter of some sort. I will work on this tonight when dark. gonna go now to be at the park by sunrise. New tactic for this year . I hope to get out befor sunrise and be one of the first to see the park with the new clue in daylight. more daylight diggin and less nighttime diggin. I also avoid rush hour from White Bear LAke to Crosby... what a haul.Â
Biggest problem with it is that I don't get to see you guys as much. hope to see ya all in the park today. my sign is a big dug out area. can't miss it.
Ian don't get me wrong I think it is crosby, have been diggin there since tuesday. But it is to easy to get tunnel vision. remembr harriett como. the first thing I thoght of in the hears a who was horton ave at como but I was to tuned into harriett.
The big fallen tree was a giant.  there are many giant cottonwoods there. it is a very pritty oark. one of my favorites for sking.  know the park well. there is a natural wood shelter from a cluster of small trees that were knocked down when a mid size tree fella natural wooded lean too. I plan to dig there today. on a side trail not part of the paved marked trials that are usually use. this trial does come off the parking lot.
So super to see you here. Wish you were HERE in the park with the rest of us.Â
I agree with the giant and siren pointing to Homer's Odyssey. It was the first thing in that clue that jumped out at me...but it took a few minutes to actually believe that was correct as I was trying to fit it with the field generals. Once I separated the two, the rest seemed obvious and the "here's the park" clue.
Here's hoping I can get out of the office today. Depends on what the auditors have in mind...and unfortunately, they are from Chicago and without any interest in pucks hidden in parks.
No prob Art. Replays are nice! (IMO) Unless they drag on............ ........ ......... ,................. ////////////////// ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, .......................
Nice to see Becksie ( fine babe) with me2 (fine babe) with all us drunk A-Hole's tonight.
so if I make it to GW, what does a newbie need to know about the PP experience? Do I need to pack a snack? A "bevvie"? I'm so tired because I've been up since 5 but I really want to go! -Becksie
A beaver is a good snack! Oh. your saying a "bevvie"? Ok , never mind...I'm lost...We are always hungary..
..A bevvie of babes always work for me!
No..reallyy...just bring a beaver and your good to go! You don"t need to join the "bevvie" of cooler chicks babes, but if you want to join the better.
wolfpac - ( PFID:3eb4f284) - 06:08pm Jan 26, 2005 PST (# 5131 of 5273)Â Â This year we're gonna find it! We were some of the lurkers driving down there this afternoon and walked just a short ways and all I saw was snow, more snow, a lake and fallen down trees, not many landmarks to navigate from.Â
Probly talked to me. Your on top and you dont know it??
K T - ( PFID:efa8598) - 01:31am Jan 27, 2005 PST (# 5256 of 5275)Â Â I wanted to do what the song says, but the St. Paul police have a problem with people having fun wanging their chung in public. Well- have no fear- sir underdog- but we were having fun wanging our chung tonight. There may have been some lichen, but I was not a witness to any of it
My 3rd encounter this year! Omen?? Cathi Hogan ???
Now I read somewhere -- here or at the Pioneer Press discussion thread, I forget which -- that there's a big ol' tree that's obviously toppled across a path but has been munched out of the way with a chainsaw. True? If so, I like the bivouac potential of that area.
Ittiz like old times again!!!! Greg in the middle o'the nite! I LOVE IT!!!
Well, I'm off Bat Creak. (Wood it bee a Hunt if I weren't in BC? :D) I agree with the Saxy-man that these are the bestest clues (I'm kind'a paraphrasing here) since Conway. I LIKE the feel of the Clues. They're CLUES, not blathering to fill eleven days worth of 'clues'.
As usual, I'm a day behind and a dollar short. Just because folks say something, I'm not that quick to believe it. I've got to noodle it for myself. So, it took me awhile to get to the Homer thighy. But, I'm there.
Today's clue... I think - FINALLY!!!!! - we're bock to where we have to orient... Like Chair-O-Key.
I've no idea when I'll get out... Prolly not until Sat. And I want to take in NTFCF again... I just don't know. Maybee the paper tomorrow nite... That's doable since the next day's Sat.
Greg, it is so good to see you. I just love your writing. Wish you were here. Good luck to you and your group!
the giant fallen down tree's are definately there.... theres more than just the one, split on the path, also.... there was one, that we searched around, for quite a while, that had tons of giant mushrooms growing all over on/around it... perfect for the thing to be taped onto... i showed it to a few people, just so everyone could see what was out there, that hadnt been back that far to check it out....
I am really baffled by this last clue. Granted the park is huge, but doesn't it seem like they are pointing us to the specific point a bit early? I am looking forward to getting out with my digging tool and searching this evening. I had to stay in last night because the lack of sleep was catching up with me. If you think those donut eating rabid raccoons at Phalen are bad, they are nothing compared to hyper 8th graders! I thought that the clue meant that it might be located near a walking path by the shelter. Good clue though. Have a good day everyone!
[Edited by on Jan 27, 2005 at 12:10am.]
I'm guessing it's that brown building on the corner of the marina area.
the entire park of Crosby is a nature center- pretty much just beyond the 'shelter'. this clue is only helping the clueless, or those who wish for a better clue.
It is REALLY looking like the last 2 hunts, where pretty much every clue tells you the park, and clue 12 tells 124,000 people to "go find it"
The only difference is that this year, instead of putting 'it' in a small dense patch of woods, they're giving us a couple hundred acres of woods to look in.
I'm still intrigued.
I just got home, and wish&pray that all those still down there will say the same later on.
FYI The cost to turn on the power at Crosby is $45.
We will be there for the RHB.
And I should also mention that we burned OTiS'S pants in the fire pit, so he needs to get a new pair.
With all that said, SCD'S & MCL everyone!
I have some left over caramel rolls, and pre-ground Folgers.
I ain't capable of anything else at this time.
oh, one more thing-
JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Edited 2 times. Most recently by on Jan 27, 2005 at 12:23am.]
KT... at least you found them :)
Gol! I cannot believe it's at Phalen again!!! That makes sense of the clue "It was here before"...we moved in.
Hey- OTiS We were really wondering how you lost them down there in the first place. Were you looking for lichen in all the wrong places?
Nah... it was when I was scooting down the cliff and over the waters edge in pursuit with no fear.
Well- have no fear- sir underdog- but we were having fun wanging our chung tonight. There may have been some lichen, but I was not a witness to any of it.
I saw plenty of lichen, but none of it made sense to me.
two of a kind JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...or for you feminists...
JOSEPHINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Edited by on Jan 27, 2005 at 01:36am.]
And to quote the infamous OT- "somebody please tell me to go to bed."
I could, however, get
This next
JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The rest of the crew must still be poking around out there huh?
We have a winner!
just got back from crosby, i walked the entire trail. I'm tired and cold and if that thing is found at crosby before clue ten, then its a set up. That place is so big, with so many trees and woods that you would have to be the luckiest person in the world if you found it.
So, for those who double back into the conversation thread when they wake up in the morning, I'm going to do my late night blah-blah thing with what I think so far. Ignore it, absorb it, or respond to it so I can do my own double back on my first of many clue noodlin' coffee breaks.
Crosby it is. I feel about as good about it as I have ever felt about a park. The Elway/Gannon field generals bookending Homer was the kicker...I mean the quarterback. That was just such a precious clue. I don't think the clue writers are trying to throw us off. It's a good time to use a weird park. People are sick of klutzing around behemoths like Phalen and Como but they don't want the short hunts of Merriam and Newell. This has Conway status.
Granted, Crosby is much bigger than Conway, but the writers are being careful to rule out big chunks of the park. And they're being extra careful to keep hunters away from dangerous parts of the park, because if memory serves correctly, Crosby is wilder than most St. Paul parks. Folks could get hurt if they wander too far off hiking paths.
Now I read somewhere -- here or at the Pioneer Press discussion thread, I forget which -- that there's a big ol' tree that's obviously toppled across a path but has been munched out of the way with a chainsaw. True? If so, I like the bivouac potential of that area.
[Edited by on Jan 27, 2005 at 02:15am.]
Bivouac as in set'cher self up with an encampment, but also as a scan for "solid shelter." Also for clearings amongst the "wood to burn."
Why do I care about a fallen tree? I'm still thinking about the "What's that you hear?" portion of Clue 3. If there is a huge fallen tree that was chopped to unblock a hiking path, I think the clue writers are saying "yo, we didn't cut the tree down just to make a landmark." It's a play on "If a tree falls in the woods, does anyone hear it?"
Others have tried to attach "a giant falls" to this tree, which would be doubly delicious, but I'm feeling pretty good about sirens and giants giving us Homer.
Yes Greg...there is a huge tree that looks like it was growing split at one point in time. When it fell, each side went it's one way. The base is on the east side of the main trail with large sections on both sides. Most of the "chainsawed"timber has been moved to the west side of the trail.
When I say timber... I should state that the smaller pieces are about end table size lol.
Online chatter at the "official" discussion board is blowing up Clue 5's "helter skelter" with Beatles, Manson, and even Byrds (David Crosby) references. About the only angle I like there is that "Helter Skelter" is on The White Album and a white jewel case would be a terrific thing to hide it in. Also, the editor in me wonders why "helter skelter" is set off by commas in the clue. It's unnecessary thus maybe it's important.
From the front line: I read that somebody was caught at Crosby removing trail marker numbers. That's not in the spirit of the game, a$$hole.
Why do I fear that somebody is going to think they need to tear branches down to create "room and wood to burn" before this thing is done. Egads.
OTS-On the search 1/26/05 2:36pm
I tried it, No one found my "cooler" mark in the snow yet (as far as I know). I posted the "cooler pic" a while back! Been there since clue 2. Know where the beaver is at crosby? I do. That an the easy chair,,,Thats your mark. E-gram me and I'll fill you in if need be. Love ya bro!
[Edited by Michele30 on Jan 27, 2005 at 02:39am.]
lol
I'm serious....Next year I think we should make a game out of find each others mark. Be it in the tree or something hung on a tree. Things like that will keep our eyes moving and shape while were are roaming the woods.
One of the two places I marked the snow was right near that huge tree that was cut up across the path.
Thanks for the fallen tree verification, OTS.
For those who don't know me, don't yell at me for being an online squatter. I don't need any "go to the park, computer geek" comments. I'm writing to you from San Francisco. I'd love to be among y'all, but I'm afraid it's not possible again this year.
But I do have a cell phone force keeping me in the loop from search sites. I love it. It makes me feel all Brando in Apocalypse Now.
Hoping we get to the double digits in clues this year...
G'night.
Night Greg
Just got back from CB. Ian 3M & I were last to leave from the CC. There was probably still 10-15 people out there. It's there. If not, people will be pretty pissed. Even met a guy named Wes who showed us pix of last years medallion as soon as it was found. It was way bigger than the one shown at the theater that their bidding on. huh
I still like the area back by the new shelter better than the fire pit one where we hung out all night. Nice fire starter KTÂ
Big crosby - go
Hey Saxy!!  Wow! Long time no blab. You looked good in the movie. Wish you were hear too guy. We had a good time tonight out at the park and I think your name came up a couple of times. You need to head up here and join us. What's San Fran got that we aint got anyway?
There's a real nice hunting area that could have huge potential due to all the landmarks. We'll see.
If not - Try Central
Later & SCD's
[Edited 4 times. Most recently by on Jan 27, 2005 at 02:52am.]
You just go 2 bed you. You're too obsessed for clue 5 anyway. ;-)
Jake is waiting for you to call him.
Is it daylight yet?
morning all. Anybody try to think hoe this cle could fit other parks??
I will do a drive by of acorn on my way to crosby this am to see what the shelter looks like
a marina is a shelter.
G. Sax "2005 St. Paul Winter Carnival Medallion Hunt" 1/27/05 2:10am
how about a list of all the parks with a fire ring and a shelter of some sort. I will work on this tonight when dark. gonna go now to be at the park by sunrise. New tactic for this year . I hope to get out befor sunrise and be one of the first to see the park with the new clue in daylight. more daylight diggin and less nighttime diggin. I also avoid rush hour from White Bear LAke to Crosby... what a haul.Â
Biggest problem with it is that I don't get to see you guys as much. hope to see ya all in the park today. my sign is a big dug out area. can't miss it.
Ian don't get me wrong I think it is crosby, have been diggin there since tuesday. But it is to easy to get tunnel vision. remembr harriett como. the first thing I thoght of in the hears a who was horton ave at como but I was to tuned into harriett.
The big fallen tree was a giant.  there are many giant cottonwoods there. it is a very pritty oark. one of my favorites for sking.  know the park well. there is a natural wood shelter from a cluster of small trees that were knocked down when a mid size tree fella natural wooded lean too. I plan to dig there today. on a side trail not part of the paved marked trials that are usually use. this trial does come off the parking lot.
Ok Dammit... I was going to go home and try to get some rest.... but on my lunch I took a small nap.... and what did i dream about the entire hour?
You guessed it....
I'll be going to home to pick up my youngest and then heading back out. I'll be in the park from about 10ish till about 2.
Neck still thinks Como
morning all and bye, off to work, see you later
Going to try to take tomorrow & Monday off.
Greg!!!!!!!!!
So super to see you here. Wish you were HERE in the park with the rest of us.Â
I agree with the giant and siren pointing to Homer's Odyssey. It was the first thing in that clue that jumped out at me...but it took a few minutes to actually believe that was correct as I was trying to fit it with the field generals. Once I separated the two, the rest seemed obvious and the "here's the park" clue.
Here's hoping I can get out of the office today. Depends on what the auditors have in mind...and unfortunately, they are from Chicago and without any interest in pucks hidden in parks.
Sweet Cooler Dreams OTis ???
Evildoer 1/26/05 4:56pm
Suck it up baby!
outtamymind 1/26/05 4:59pm
It's posted! Cooler crew is there! If you need more. stay home! You won't come anyways. no matter how hard we make you try.
Fellas, I'm telling you, you're gonna want that cowbell!
Or follow mrmnmikey!
Unless you want your own personel jesus, Then that is another matter.
Art Vandelay 1/26/05 5:12pm">OTS-On the search 2/15/04 3:09pm
Art Vandelay 1/26/05 5:12pm
No prob Art. Replays are nice! (IMO)
Unless they drag on............
........
.........
,.................
//////////////////
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
.......................
Nice to see Becksie ( fine babe) with me2 (fine babe) with all us drunk A-Hole's tonight.
so if I make it to GW, what does a newbie need to know about the PP experience? Do I need to pack a snack? A "bevvie"? I'm so tired because I've been up since 5 but I really want to go! -Becksie
A beaver is a good snack! Oh. your saying a "bevvie"? Ok , never mind...I'm lost...We are always hungary..
..A bevvie of babes always work for me!
No..reallyy...just bring a beaver and your good to go! You don"t need to join the "bevvie" of cooler chicks babes, but if you want to join the better.
wolfpac - ( PFID:3eb4f284) - 06:08pm Jan 26, 2005 PST (# 5131 of 5273)Â Â
This year we're gonna find it!
We were some of the lurkers driving down there this afternoon and walked just a short ways and all I saw was snow, more snow, a lake and fallen down trees, not many landmarks to navigate from.Â
Probly talked to me. Your on top and you dont know it??
K T - ( PFID:efa8598) - 01:31am Jan 27, 2005 PST (# 5256 of 5275)Â Â
I wanted to do what the song says, but the St. Paul police have a problem with people having fun wanging their chung in public.
Well- have no fear- sir underdog- but we were having fun wanging our chung tonight. There may have been some lichen, but I was not a witness to any of it
 Me Either! Or is it Niether!
Clue Master 1/27/05 2:39am
My 3rd encounter this year! Omen?? Cathi Hogan ???
Now I read somewhere -- here or at the Pioneer Press discussion thread, I forget which -- that there's a big ol' tree that's obviously toppled across a path but has been munched out of the way with a chainsaw. True? If so, I like the bivouac potential of that area.
G. Sax "2005 St. Paul Winter Carnival Medallion Hunt" 1/27/05 2:15am
Bivouac as in set'cher self up with an encampment, but also as a scan for "solid shelter." Also for clearings amongst the "wood to burn."
Need help with this let me know! I've been on it!
GREG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ittiz like old times again!!!! Greg in the middle o'the nite! I LOVE IT!!!
Well, I'm off Bat Creak. (Wood it bee a Hunt if I weren't in BC? :D) I agree with the Saxy-man that these are the bestest clues (I'm kind'a paraphrasing here) since Conway. I LIKE the feel of the Clues. They're CLUES, not blathering to fill eleven days worth of 'clues'.
As usual, I'm a day behind and a dollar short. Just because folks say something, I'm not that quick to believe it. I've got to noodle it for myself. So, it took me awhile to get to the Homer thighy. But, I'm there.
Today's clue... I think - FINALLY!!!!! - we're bock to where we have to orient... Like Chair-O-Key.
I've no idea when I'll get out... Prolly not until Sat. And I want to take in NTFCF again... I just don't know. Maybee the paper tomorrow nite... That's doable since the next day's Sat.
Greg, it is so good to see you. I just love your writing. Wish you were here. Good luck to you and your group!
the giant fallen down tree's are definately there.... theres more than just the one, split on the path, also.... there was one, that we searched around, for quite a while, that had tons of giant mushrooms growing all over on/around it... perfect for the thing to be taped onto... i showed it to a few people, just so everyone could see what was out there, that hadnt been back that far to check it out....
I am really baffled by this last clue. Granted the park is huge, but doesn't it seem like they are pointing us to the specific point a bit early? I am looking forward to getting out with my digging tool and searching this evening. I had to stay in last night because the lack of sleep was catching up with me. If you think those donut eating rabid raccoons at Phalen are bad, they are nothing compared to hyper 8th graders! I thought that the clue meant that it might be located near a walking path by the shelter. Good clue though. Have a good day everyone!