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ares

I think he needs to appologize to the whole forum.

i think she's got a great point in that too. honestly, had there not been 5th amendment issues with nick, it would have been appropriate for him as well. but since he did admit it, i think he ought to have to publically admit it, given that the edit was discussed in public.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 6:29 AM Permalink
ares

what was the gist of it, kitch?
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 6:29 AM Permalink
ares

and we should tack on that it is our policy to not edit posts except for violations of the above, and that the person edited will be notifed.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 6:30 AM Permalink
KITCH

I really wanted to cut/copy/paste it...

my understanding of it is this...

the reason "non paying" members can search and read our post is because most of our access lists are all screwed up...

they are not cloned from the top thread....

I think the only way to fix this is to "block" guests on each of them...

(I've got no host access anywhere) (so I can't play with it today)

dummy account

dr. clue

password

"thehunt"
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 6:33 AM Permalink
Terry

I don't think we can force anyone to apologize.

We, as moderators could apologize that this occurred among our ranks and hope that the offender comes forward to also apologize.

But forcing him to publicly apologize is just simply dragging this issue to new heights and is much like two year olds fighting and a parent tells the one that started it to say sorry.

Ever hear the result of that? Often the "sorry" is followed by even more mean spiritedness.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 6:34 AM Permalink
KITCH

when I was logged into "dr. clue" all I had to do was search for "redbear" and I could read the thread.

I did the same thing by searching for "Clue #2"
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 6:34 AM Permalink
KITCH

last nite...

OTiS told me he was going to say sorry...but it wasn't going to be much...

I'm not sure if he's alrdy did so or not.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 6:37 AM Permalink
Terry

That has to be his choice. I don't think we need anymore drama by forcing that issue.

For a good time - read Soucheray's column today.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 6:39 AM Permalink
ares

i've not looked, but it would be mighty decent of him to voluntarily do so.

although honestly, after this i have my doubts about how much he'll voluntarily be around this folder anyway.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 7:01 AM Permalink
Clue Master

With the help of the site sysop, we found who the moderator is that edited OTs post. That moderator was given the chance to admit the deed, which he did.

I like all of it but I'd like to change this sentence to read:

'The moderator that made the edit has admitted to doing so.'
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 7:04 AM Permalink
Terry

Works for me.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 7:13 AM Permalink
Clue Master

We all good then?

Mods?

With that question, it brings up another question for us. How long should we set to act on certain things of this nature? Meaning that it's seldom that all 5 of us are on here at once when an approval question is asked.

I gave 10 minutes last night but wasn't sure if that was enough for TMK or Kitch to respond.

Should it just be if 3 of us respond then go forward? Or what? Ideas?
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 7:21 AM Permalink
Terry

3 would make a majority so I could be good with that.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 7:23 AM Permalink
ares

works for me too. and after thinking about it, we should apologize as moderators for what happened.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 7:26 AM Permalink
Terry

Something like we are sorry and regret this occurred?
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 7:31 AM Permalink
KITCH

ares...can you work on the access lists on all the theads???

thanks....

:smile:
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 7:43 AM Permalink
ares

yup, terry.

will do, kitch.

most of the folders and threads don't have their own separate access lists. so this should be quick. i hope :smile:
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 7:51 AM Permalink
ares

i'm explicitly removing people who are in the paid group from the access lists, considering they're covered in the paid group which is already in there.

this means thx, green, camocrue68, lilman, stallion, nick, and queen malley (and any others i come across). keeps the acl's down to a black list. (speaking of the black list, should i remove the unpaid aliases from the list as well?
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 7:56 AM Permalink
ares

next thing. each of the "dead hunts" has its own acl (with dr. clue as a particpant, which i assume is why it could be found in a search). shall i just have those threads revert to the top level access list now that the hunt is "dead"?
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 8:04 AM Permalink
KITCH

sure...its only money for ableminds...

I'm all for that....
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 8:16 AM Permalink
ares

3 in agreement is sufficient, imho. some things can wait until we've all had a say in them; others can't and shouldn't. and unfortunately, its got to be a gut feeling on the part of those of us who are in at the time; can't be somehting set in stone.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 8:21 AM Permalink
CoolerCrewModerator

We would like to thank OT for bringing this issue to our attention. We want to be clear that she, in no way, posted anything that was against our Code of Conduct.

The moderator that made the edit has admitted to doing so.

The moderators had agreed previously that no posts be edited or removed without input from the other moderators, unless there was a compelling reason to do so. The compelling reason for doing so would need to be extremes. An example would be the posting of pornographic material.

The person responsible for editing OTs post did not abide by the agreement made regarding the editing of posts and has removed himself as moderator.

We are all sorry and regret that this has occurred

OK?

I'd also like to PM OT to let her know that we will post something in RedBears thread but the moderator who was responsible for the edit needs to apologize himself.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 8:32 AM Permalink
ThoseMedallingKids

I think 3 is a good start. I say we can always change a decision afterwards. 3 is a good start, but there's probably going to be things where we'll need a good discussion that will take time.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 8:50 AM Permalink
ares

sounds good to me, ccm. :smile:

and then we can edit the coc thread to post who the 5 moderators are.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 8:55 AM Permalink
Terry

Looks good.

Just so it doesn't look like we're pointing fingers and giving OTS a chance to apologize without being singled out, let's hold up on editing the code of conduct stuff.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 9:00 AM Permalink
ares

shit!!!! i inadvertently cleard the access list for the folder

shit shit shit shit shit!!!!
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 9:03 AM Permalink
Terry

Which folder?
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 9:03 AM Permalink
Clue Master

The main one
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 9:05 AM Permalink
Clue Master

That only happens once ares. I guarantee it won't happen again. I learned first hand too. That Clear and Update are too close to each other.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 9:06 AM Permalink
Clue Master

I take it that you're on the handle with Mark & Tim?
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 9:06 AM Permalink
Terry

What does the clear do? Does that mean no one has access - or everyone does?
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 9:07 AM Permalink
KITCH

I've got access...
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 9:09 AM Permalink
KITCH

but I think nobody has hosting rights???

I doubt its a major deal.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 9:09 AM Permalink
Clue Master

If you have access can't you give hosting rights?
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 9:16 AM Permalink
KITCH

...sorry I mean I can read the threads....
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 9:20 AM Permalink
KITCH

wow...

I'm amazed at the # of people this year...

umm. did we get the threads fixed yet?
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 11:24 AM Permalink
Clue Master

Doesn't look like it. I did contact Tim though.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 12:56 PM Permalink
ares

what happened wasn't that i hit clear instead of update. i hit clear. i intended to hit clear. i thought i was in scribe's favorite stories thread instead of the main folder. that was the last one i was checking too. d'oh!!!

and yes, i egrammed tim about it.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 12:57 PM Permalink
KITCH

this is bad!!

this is bad!!!

I just logged into the "dr. clue" account...

threads are open to the nonpaying public to read....
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 1:30 PM Permalink
ares

 i know i know i know. not that its a big issue here anyway. there aren't a whole lot of non paying public who even know anyway.

still no word yet from tim.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 1:40 PM Permalink
KITCH

I sent him an email and pm...
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 1:41 PM Permalink
ares

one was sent from me to both tim and sysop userid's that way whoever's on first can take care of it.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 1:44 PM Permalink
KITCH

Mark Richer to Tim, me

  More options 4:12 pm (44 minutes ago)

OK< at the top level I created a new access list. You are a host.

Paid group are participants

All other users have no access.

So go in there, and give access to registered users to read where you

want to allow that, and add your other hosts in there.

Mark

I just put in terry, ares, and clue master

somebody wanna add tmk ?
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 2:59 PM Permalink
Terry

tmk is added
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 3:09 PM Permalink
ares

whew.

added tmk, but someone had done it by the time i got to it, added coolercrewmoderator as a host too.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 3:09 PM Permalink
Terry

I'm just speedier than you. :pbpt:
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 3:10 PM Permalink
ares

hehe. yup. i had to get my 'puter turned back on :smile:
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 3:14 PM Permalink
ares

its cool generating stats on the web site. 14084 page views totalling 85539 hits (page views + logo views + images) 1.06GB total transfer. of that, 7252 pages, 41295 hits, and 507.78MB since sunday at midnight.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 3:22 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Do we like the new look in the folders? We can change that but Mark did it to the top folders from a request and it trickled down here.
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 5:59 PM Permalink
KITCH

ares....

I've got a request for you to change your tagline...

I'm not sure why...but would you please...

thank you.....
Wed, 01/25/2006 - 6:43 PM Permalink