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2012 - Tony Schmidt Park

Submitted by ares on
2012 Clues 

So its back to the drawing board for next year 
to find a spot so deep and drear. 
Harder to reach all you whiners 
than those buried Chilean miners. 

Next year's clues will inspire dread 
requiring knowledge of languages dead, 
Higher math rocket science 
disbanding every hunters alliance. 

I take your leave. I bid adieu. 
I go in search of the perfect clue. 
Prepare to hike hard dig deep and delve. 
Will have a grand party in 2012.



 

me2

Here is a link to events coming up - there are a lot of threads around here where Jake is not the center of attention.

Eags, "Pre-Dig Gig, Rehash Bash and other Cooler events" #3525, 12 Feb 2012 2:37 pm

Like some of the others mentioned...not many are around to say "Hi" during the hunt. It's friendship building throughout the year. Come out to events. We can't say Hi if we don't know who you are.

  • I feel that many here are not able to take an objective view of the situation because they are close friends with those involved in the controversy.

    This is a catch 22 I'm afraid... what you don't know is that most here don't like Jake period. Even I, one of his closer friends RARELY AGREEE with Jake and what he does. Nothing I say about Jake is a secret. I've learned that no matter what I say I will say it to his face...making him a good friend to be able to be myself and he his self, forgive and move on AND no one can turn what I say in to gossip back to Jake. It's not about standing by your friends no matter what they say (there have been some interesting debates and controversy)- what would a family be if there wasn't drama and excitement and shaking of heads? It is however about listening, learning, sharing, setting friends straight when you need to, being there for them. Many of us here DO NOT agree with each other - hense a catch 22 / double edged sword.... We get yelled at by newbies for no matter which we do...

    A. Be close and stand by our friends no matter what if they are right or wrong - newbies then think they can't debate or get in to the "group"

    B. Argue/discuss what we feel is right or wrong AGAINST what our friends think is right or wrong. Therefor looking like we fight and you don't want to be around us.

    Whether new or old you, like us, when anyone sticks around long enough with their own opinions and minds and thoughts - you WILL find a best friend or more in this bunch. Whether you agree OR disagree on politics, sports, treasure hunting, it always comes back to friendship. And it's okay in the end to agree to disagree.

    As far as the blank statement that was on the CC web page... This is prime example that not all CC agree. Some people believe the finders cheated and others stand behind the finders, SOMETHING had to be said. There was a discussion as to what would be said, keep in mind NOT all CC are around to comment or throw in their 2 cents so it is decided by a small group and not the masses (this goes for where the pre-dig is held every year too-if you aren't around to share ideas then yours may not get mentioned and you may be upset where it is at). I'm a perfect example of that... I've been with the Cooler for years!!... I wasn't around for this discussion so I go with the flow and trust the others to do their best when not all agree or are not present to help.

    A good way to get to know some of us is to either enjoy reading other threads where we have thousands of posts or just come out to events and introduce yourself to a few people. Smaller events are easier.

    THE WORST TIME to come in to the Cooler is during the PP Hunt. Too many distractions for a group of people with the same addiction. They get pulled all over the place and you don't get enough true time to hang and talk long especially if a new person is searching for attention.

    ... even with all our bickering as a disfunctional wonderful family.... We end up forgiving each other most of the time or agreeing to not agree...and in the end....hopefully respect and love each other...our door is always open.
  • Thu, 02/16/2012 - 9:20 PM Permalink
    me2

    wow, I vaguely remember when you did that with the autographs.
    Thu, 02/16/2012 - 9:23 PM Permalink
    me2

    Brettaa---cool name by the way.

    Alex is not a lawyer.

    We don't know if he or any of the guys are pursuing anything. Just because they haven't posted on facebook or here doesn't mean they aren't dealing with this in other ways. On the flip side they may not be talking at all and just hope that this goes away. The finder, Lange, Nate and Cory don't have Able Minds accounts. Jake rarely posts here but sometimes he graces us with his presence ::insert eyeroll here:: :sillygrin: ... Alex is a regular. I'm actually quite close with Alex but have left him be about this to allow him his own time. Whether he did wrong or not in anyone's eyes, accident or on purpose... he is a good guy and has a good heart. I can still say nice things about him no matter what happened.
    Thu, 02/16/2012 - 9:31 PM Permalink
    me2

    Excellent points Dan.

    and there were a lot of jokes - and I got them because I knew the people that said them and knew there tones but not everyone does.

    "I cannot speak for Alex directly, but the riff-raff that keeps slamming Jake and the others in the public boards are doing so simply to get a reaction. Period. Ignoring them is the best defense, and they WILL go away eventually. Alex is doing just that. " Well said about Alex and Jake.
    Thu, 02/16/2012 - 9:35 PM Permalink
    Allison Wonderland

    I think the paper would have published what they did the day of the leak regardless of who was involved. If it had come out later on that someone had accessed the clue early and the paper was told about it and did nothing, that would have been much worse. But I also think that would have been the end of it had not the person who told them about the leak and the person who found the leak not been among the finders. Obviously they knew Jake had some involvement because he's the one who told them, and yet they still allowed him to be a finder. Then the article said it was 2 days later that they found out another of the finders was the person who accessed the clue. I can see why at that point they decided they couldn't let things stand as they were. They could have cut out just one person. They could have disqualified everyone. Disqualifying the four people who were more tangentially connected to the find probably seemed like the easy choice. Unfortunately with no further explanation on the PP's part, it does tarnish the reputation of all 4 of them.

    I'd like to say it's easy to second guess people's choices now, but in fact, it's not. Even in hindsight it's not quite clear what all of the correct choices were. But however you feel about it, I think it's important to take away three things from this.

    1. It was an isolated incident based on the convergence of specific factors. It's not part of a wide-ranging conspiracy or anything. So like the Phalen doughnut, chalk it up as a singlular clusterf*** and hope that we have learned from it and move on.

    2. What happened didn't really have an influence on the outcome of the hunt. Even with the one PP article, I don't know that it affected anyone's hunt experience at all. So for something that ultimately was so inconsequential, it's very much a shame if people lose friendships over it, lose interest in the hunt over it, or incur any other kind of a loss to themselves over it. There are things in this world to get worked up about. I just don't see this as being one of them.

    3. We don't have to agree. We don't agree on whether the Rehash should be indoors or outdoors. We don't agree on whether it should be on a Saturday to avoid Super Bowl Sunday. We don't even agree on what this group is about exactly. There's a lot of disagreement in this group and that's fine actually. The key is not to seek perfect agreement, but rather accept that there will be disagreement. But even with that disagreement, there is more that brings us together than divides us. If some people feel something shady happened, that's fine as something shady did happen. For some people it's within tolerance limits and for others it isn't, and both are entitled to feel that way. Perhaps those that find it intolerable would like to see greater sanctions, but because of points 1 and 2 above, I don't think you will.
    Thu, 02/16/2012 - 9:40 PM Permalink
    me2

    I HEART THIS POST! I HEART YOU WHITE RABBIT!
    Thu, 02/16/2012 - 9:52 PM Permalink
    Clue Master

    Where the hell have you been? Sheesh. I coulda saved three rambling posts trying to convey what you did in one post. Friggen verbiage guru you. :smile:.

    Nice post AW.
    Fri, 02/17/2012 - 12:03 AM Permalink
    King Boreas aka Ian

    Brad, you ROCK. Thanks for the giggles. And yes, the rabbit has a way with words.
    Fri, 02/17/2012 - 12:59 AM Permalink
    me2

    funny! I got offline and read that where I couldn't post and wanted to say the exact same thing. You and I think alike a lot!
    Fri, 02/17/2012 - 11:34 AM Permalink
    Tatergirl

    Jake rarely posts here but sometimes he graces us with his presence ::insert eyeroll here::

    ... what you don't know is that most here don't like Jake period.

    Yeah... kinda like his only post here this whole hunt was to let all of us know we were over thinking it and the medallion was at BC.

     :sillygrin:
    Sat, 02/18/2012 - 12:26 AM Permalink
    Clue Master

    Bwah! :sillygrin:
    Sat, 02/18/2012 - 1:14 AM Permalink
    KC0GRN

    hehehehehehehehe

    Nice observation.
    Sat, 02/18/2012 - 1:36 AM Permalink
    ares

    say, has anyone got the gps coordinates of the spot yet?
    Tue, 02/21/2012 - 2:10 PM Permalink
    mrmnmikey

    check with Ian
    Tue, 02/21/2012 - 3:03 PM Permalink
    Clue Master

    45.03.007

    093.10.534
    Tue, 02/21/2012 - 3:23 PM Permalink
    Grey Wolf

    According to GE, that looks correct. You just have them written in a way that might confuse some applications.

    Thy this: N45 03.007 W093 10.534
    Tue, 02/21/2012 - 5:38 PM Permalink
    ares

    thanks!
    Tue, 02/21/2012 - 7:07 PM Permalink
    me2

    Good Job on the coordinates.
    Thu, 02/23/2012 - 8:03 AM Permalink