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2012 - Tony Schmidt Park

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2012 Clues 

So its back to the drawing board for next year 
to find a spot so deep and drear. 
Harder to reach all you whiners 
than those buried Chilean miners. 

Next year's clues will inspire dread 
requiring knowledge of languages dead, 
Higher math rocket science 
disbanding every hunters alliance. 

I take your leave. I bid adieu. 
I go in search of the perfect clue. 
Prepare to hike hard dig deep and delve. 
Will have a grand party in 2012.



 

l and a mommy

I was wondering that myself if he was on vacation before finding....
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:34 AM Permalink
PilotsHatGuy

I've always felt that's been an issue with the cooler crew. They want this to be an open, public group so new people join up, and because we're all in it for the fun, the socializing, etc. Yet at the same time people want "a cooler to find it" or don't want to share their great noodle and get pissed when someone posts it. It can't be both. Do I keep "good" noodles to myself, or my close hunting buddies, sure. But I also don't piss and moan when someone posts it on the boards. Also keep in mind not everyone here is actively hunting. I wasn't this year, so I was going to post any good noodles I had in the hopes it might help someone (cooler or otherwise).

I look at the biggest advantage of this board over the PP one is not the privateness, but rather the control. The PP never bans people and rarely deletes offensive posts. Here, we have several mods who will lay down the hammer if needed.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:35 AM Permalink
CerealKiller

Anyone else See the Problem With this Photo?? only 3 people are smiling!! and the one who DID NOT FIND it is holding it! that is Great Feed his Ego just a little more! I really Don't have a problem with Jake being Included in this find but the way he got there is a Little Sketchy! and BFG is the Odd man out! Who does he really know in this room Jake knows all of them its kinda funny!! but that's all right I can see what Friendship means to some people Now! After Last year I wont forget this year! ever!!
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:39 AM Permalink
40below

I understand where you're coming from. That is something which you need to weigh the options on. Let me tell you this: I've posted on here for oh... probably 5 years now? I've met a few CC members who were very cool in person, but I've also dealt with a few who haven't been very cool at all. But, I take the good with the bad and share my thoughts here because I enjoy the forum and brainstorming with others. There is always going to be "leaked" information or things that get posted elsewhere because aside from the $10, this is a public forum. That's something that will not change unless you choose to stop using this forum completely... but if you decide that, it will alienate many who've made their way over here the past few years and shared MANY great noodles with all of us.

I understand the sour taste when it comes to certain things. I have a sour taste in my mouth this morning for being so close last night. But when it comes to stuff "leaking" you really need to weigh the good and the bad and decide what's best for you.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:39 AM Permalink
queenmalley

Withdrawl! :goofy:
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:39 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

in other words you'll steal the ideas here without sharing your own. Nice. Thats not good for the group either.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:41 AM Permalink
GreenTeam

I have not been a very active hunter for a few years now due to some health issues. My hubby does get out once in a while to look/dig. But I've been a part of the CC since '97. I've never meet you guys in person (kinda shy, plus the health stuff lately). But I feel like this is a very cooler community and I am so happy to be a part of it, even if for me it is just "online" right now.

I hope people will continue to noodle together online. That's half the fun! And it's good to have new people joining us. Everyone has something to bring to the table.

The chances of any one person in the CC finding the puck are pretty small. If some people want to keep their noodles private, that's their choice. But I think then we are missing out on what really makes this hunt fun--a sense of community and friendship, being a part of the hunt even if we never actually find the puck ourselves.

Not sure if I'm making sense. Just a few thoughts... :wink:
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:42 AM Permalink
ares

yes, yes, and yes.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:42 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

I agree. Thats against what I thought this place was.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:42 AM Permalink
queenmalley

yes, I know; the smoking on Hunts SUCKS!!
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:44 AM Permalink
izzyardo

The cooler crew started as an open forum, I agree that the fee keeps some of the 'riff raff' out. The whole purpose is to share ideas and meet others with similar interests. Personally, I would love to find it someday, god knows I need the money, but it's the fun of the hunt that keeps me coming back, not the greed of the prize.

I've still never met any of you in person, even though I've been around a long time. I don't post as often as I should, I tend to lurk because I always second guess my noodles and deem them not good enough to post. I was pretty on track this year, so I've learned I should speak up more in the future.

I really like being able to come here and live vicariously though those out in the parks looking if I can't be there myself. I loved being able to add my noodles when I was off at college back in the day and couldn't make it back to hunt. I know I'm usually quiet, but I feel strongly that the comradarie is important. I hope all will continue to share in the future.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:45 AM Permalink
ares

Here, we have several mods who will lay down the hammer if needed.

heh :smile:

yes. yes we do.

and although we like the openness, there has always been the unwritten rule that thou shalt not repost noodles from here "over there" unless its your own. perhaps we need to write that one down someplace, although enforcing that against lurkers who don't post would be rather difficult.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:46 AM Permalink
Brassmonkey

Westy,

I have to respectfully disagree I am certainly a one time finder. I have no idea who you are but it's certainly easy to come on here and discredit anyone you feel like behind a computer screen. Isn't this your first year on this board.

Let me ask you, if you and your mom/wife/husband or good friend are looking together all day For the medallion as a team and one of you finds it then the other isn't a finder?

Total BS. That's how teams work. When a football team wins the game does only one person get the credit?

You team up with people to find the medallion so you cover more ground the trade off is splitting the money and the glory.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:47 AM Permalink
GreenTeam

About finders and co-finders...Just generally speaking, it seems to me it's up to the finder (the one who actually plucks the puck from it's hiding spot) if they want to share the "finding" of it, or not, and with whom. It might sometimes be a matter of sharing the "finding" as a way to say thanks and to acknowledge some help they received from someone else.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:48 AM Permalink
CerealKiller

We also do have a Rule in place about busting people out IRL your not suppose to tell others who we are unless they are ok with it! and that witch was done to me this year on FB is not kool at all! part of this is to be our self's and have some ananimaty(SP)! I know for one I am vary out spoken and don't have a problem being Heard but again When someone goes and pulls S@#t Like that it really pisses me off and then they wounder why I act like a A@#hole!

But thats ok I know I for one will not be renewing this year and have heard and seen more then a few who have not I guess these boards are going to slowly rot away now that there are people running around telling every one who we really are and stuff like that! I know some people have left over the years because they don't feel safe anymore on these boards because people have Unmasked them! and such :angry:
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:48 AM Permalink
l and a mommy

Like I said I posted that this morning when I woke up and saw the med was found I was right there yesterday too had hope to get out today but had a good hunt all in all then I saw someone try to link a photo from Ableminds to the PP Treasurhunt page on FB and it irritated me I feel like I've tried to defend myself today for that one post I suck with words and have probably made it worse because everything always sounds worse over the computer with no facial expression or vocal changes.

I've always loved being part of this crew and I have posted stuff this year but it seems I feel like I'm being more careful about what noodles I share lately. I HATE feeling like I need to sensor myself on here. :frown: I'm done trying to dig my hole deeper I'll talk to you at the Pity Party or the Rehash if you want to about this but I can't get words onto paper. (or computer as it may be)
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:48 AM Permalink
MrsMGhunter

Like and well said Rob!!!
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:49 AM Permalink
ares

yup. as appealing as a blacklist/whitelist sounds, i still think its better this way even if a few things leak out.

even more so when there's a moderator who has to maintain said list.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:50 AM Permalink
mrmnmikey

well said
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:51 AM Permalink
ares

That's how teams work. When a football team wins the game does only one person get the credit?

no, but the place kicker will certainly get sole credit for the loss if he shanks a game winning field goal as time expires :smile:

seriously though, well said!
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:52 AM Permalink
queenmalley

I would be sad if the Cooler went away. :sad:
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:53 AM Permalink
GreenTeam

One more thought...The CC started as an online group. I think that's a core part of what the CC was and is. It kinda makes me sad if people are reluctant to share things. Sharing our ideas is what the group is about. :smile:
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:56 AM Permalink
Brassmonkey

Furthermore if you a a true hunter and know the history then you would also know that in 63 medallion finds only 8 times has it actually been one finder. That's an awful lot of people to discredit. I don't think we should start going back and changing history.

The longtin family found it twice as a family but different people found it as individuals. Should we erase them as two time finders?
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:56 AM Permalink
diggin4it

:pbpt:
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:57 AM Permalink
diggin4it

Don't know why this won't load as a picture...oh well, open the attachment :goofy:
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:58 AM Permalink
westy3789

It being my first year on the board, whether this be true or not, does not bring credit or discredit to what I said. One need not have been a member of this god forsaken forum to gather information of medallion hunts past.

"Let me ask you, if you and your mom/wife/husband or good friend are looking together all day For the medallion as a team and one of you finds it then the other isn't a finder?"

Um, nope :goofy: Wishful thinking does wonders to a man's logical faculties. If I'm looking in the trunk of a tree and my kid is looking up in the tree and happens to find it, he found it. Not me. There's no saying I would have looked in the same place he did had he not found it. Accept it

 :sillygrin:
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:59 AM Permalink
Brassmonkey

As to the fact am I a 2 time finder or 1 is debateable just like is jake a 3 time finder.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

Personally I really don't care, there are more important things in life like my family and the friends that I have here at the CC.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:01 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

So its like 2am, you JUST FOUND THE MEDALLION, and now you really have very little time to think who else, if anyone, should share the credit. You go with your instinct. Its a very heady moment and I wouldn't worry about trying to second guess the decision too much.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:01 PM Permalink
KC0GRN

Yeah, when I was out last night, I was smelling some very odd smoke smells, I assume it wasn't all tobacco smoking going on.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:02 PM Permalink
Brassmonkey

So if you and your son were looking together and you found it, you would turn to him and say sorry. That's tough live right there. Glad your not my dad.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:02 PM Permalink
westy3789

Well, considering the deciders of who gets credit in the hunt... (pioneer press)....and looking at who they decided to give credit to this year (Jake),those 55 times it's been found by a "group" sure do become less credible
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:03 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

I look forward to hunting with you in the future.

I would be honored to have you allied with me when I uncover the puck for your 3rd find :smile:
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:03 PM Permalink
Art Vandelay

Westy, don't you think you are being a bit harsh? The tone of your message about Rob really comes off that way. Maybe that wasn't your intent, but if it was, why? What is the point of the negative rhetoric?
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:04 PM Permalink
mrmnmikey

we (as a group) always seem to dissintergrate after the hunt. Hopefully we all regroup next year.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:07 PM Permalink
incrediblemagpie

To purposely HIJACK this thread! And trend it towards more important matters.

Where and when is the ReHash and whats for Dessert?
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:07 PM Permalink
KC0GRN

Well everyone's off for a year to forget all the negative, so I'd guess things will be just fine :smile:
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:08 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Like!
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:09 PM Permalink
izzyardo

Agree! Where/when is the rehash? I'm going to a family super bowl party and I'm afraid I'm going miss it.

And I have to work tonight :frown:
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:13 PM Permalink
Clue Master

Where was it decided that the pp was at Yarussos? we are still here now. Maybe it was confused with this gathering. Unless it was discussed earlier and there was a census we were planning on going to Gabes at 5:30 with all the finders. I haven't slogged so please let me know if this was decided already.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:17 PM Permalink
Allison Wonderland

The cooler crew started as a purely online thing. And the idea was that it is open to all hunters because we are in fact all hunters. That never went away but two things happened.

One was that we moved off the PP site and in the process became a distinct group. And then other people came to see us that way and in their minds we became some hunters instead of all hunters. That thinking then started to pervade here as well with an us vs them mentality.

The second thing is that we started meeting in person. Not just in line at the PP or at the Rehash, but elsewhere too. People threw parties, date each other, and formed all sorts of other personal bonds. When you have a discrepancy in the levels of familiarity between people, you inevitably have a clique, almost by definition. The problem is you can't be a close group of friends and a group open to everyone. They are two very different sets of expectations which is what we have. In my yahoo group. We have no personal bonds outside the hunt and don't really know each other and it has been a very stable dynamic as a result. I'm not saying we should emulate that, but it does provide a contrast for making this point. So we have something of an identity crisis that won't be easily solved.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:18 PM Permalink
Brassmonkey

Thanks art, I usually dont get into these useless defense rants cause I typically don't need to on this board. That post did feel like a personal attack.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:19 PM Permalink
CerealKiller

I still think your The Man Monkey!! Lol you got 2 in my Book and thats all that maters to ME!! lol and your family is the greatest!!
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:24 PM Permalink
Andrea

Disagree.

You are a TWO time finder.

Maybe you weren't in the park at the moment it was found the first time, but it wouldn't have been found at that point in the hunt without you (from my understanding). In addition, Jake recognized your contribution as a finder. I don't see why anyone else would call it any different.

Likewise, to me, Jake is a three-time-finder. This does seem a bit different than the earlier situation... but as I was not there and do not know the whole history, I do not feel I am the one to judge. The casual hunter whose name I am already forgetting chose to follow through on his word and recognize the other guys as part of the find, therefore they are finders too. For all I know, those guys spelled it out clue by clue what each thing meant to him.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:30 PM Permalink
PilotsHatGuy

I think you smell like poop.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:30 PM Permalink
leelabell

I really miss you guys. And, I really miss the hunt. I can't state enough how down I get this time of year because I am missing out on all the fun. In taking the foreign exchange kid this year, I knew getting there would be tough. Plus, I ended up with a very important doctor's appointment today that I couldn't miss.

I found out this morning that I'm three years cancer free. I'm ecstatic. So, please, all of you, quit fighting over the definition of a finder. In the whole scheme of things, it isn't what is important.

All that said, I understand what Jeri Lynn is saying about the one particular linking incident. It isn't like we don't expect good noodles to get out. They do. They all do. That's the way the game is played.

She's talking about something all together different. Someone, who none of us know, is a member here to seemingly shine a negative light on the cooler crew. I don't care about "stealing" noodles. I care about people being unkind and deceptive.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:41 PM Permalink
Brassmonkey

Thanks Shat!
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:42 PM Permalink
Brassmonkey

Agreed and Congrats!
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:42 PM Permalink
Andrea

Congratulations!

And thanks for the redirect onto what is important.

Can anyone tell me the time for the pity party? I really need it. I can't seem to erase the image of me reaching out and grabbing the medallion-- I feel like it would be my Mirror of Erised image.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:43 PM Permalink
Mad_Dach5und

I really wish people would just lighten up and realize that luck is STILL a very large determining factor about who finds it. I appreciate that Alex set up a conference call with someone at Gabe's to read the clue over the phone last night - but it wasn't necessary, I wasn't planning on it, and it really didn't help anyone get an advantage for racing to find it. AND IT NEVER HAS.

People like think they are clever and post false stories on the PP boards and other places to lead people away. Even after a decade or so of doing this, the public as a collective mind and the Coolers as a collective mind are STILL not very far off timing-wise. The few minutes difference between when THIS forum gets a clue posted and when it appears in the PiPress means absolutely NOTHING - aside from someone's pride being hurt because they were not the 'first'. Big deal if you are the first at the right park and were there two days before anyone else - did you find the medallion?!? (Jake: Don't answer that.) It just does NOT matter all that much.

If you got the winning 'noodle' posted online first - good for you! If you never bothered to go to the park and test that noodle by finding it yourself; well, at least you THOUGHT it up. Just try paying the bills with that claim.

Tonight at the pity party we will near dozens and dozens of 'almost' stories - we love to tell them, and the people there love to hear them - because no matter who or what we are - we all enjoy the experience of the Hunt. This board - and the Coolers in general - exist because of that reason alone.

The only rules that are 'Sacred' are the ones posted by the Pioneer Press. The Finder is the ONE person who turns in the Medallion, and they ALONE get to determine who 'Found' it with them. End of story. (Steps off soapbox)
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:43 PM Permalink
witchdoctor

Ditto!
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:47 PM Permalink