My prediction is the official explanation for this clue is going to be disappointing.
What gets me is this:
"Much of the history remains a mystery
Which we hope to bring to the fore"
And at the same time the paper is running an article about the Momsens who were clue writers in the past and are now revealing some of their secret history. Seems very reminiscent of when they ran an article about how Maplewood was fine with hosting a hunt the same year it just happened to be in Phalen, right along that Maplewood border. So maybe there is something in that article we're supposed to use?
Kitch, his other book with the severed head of a rejected groom in a block of winter carnival ice would be a good movie too. I think I will start on the script after the hunt....!
I have the Millet Ice Palace Sherlock Holmes book. I've never read it, but picked it up recently at a used store because I figured it might help with a hunt. I just skimmed the first few pages and Box isn't mentioned. However, there are extensive end notes about the history, which I haven't looked at.
Replying to AW: Agreed. Plus, have you seen the headline to that article? Medallion Hunters, Meet Your Nemesis.
A character featured in his Ice Palace book is named Shadwell Rafferty who assists Sherlock Holmes in his investigations. This link may be way off, but Millet's books are fascinating. Plus the Millet/Boxmeyer clue writing team....
Millet has both a BA and a Master's degree in English, so he is good with words and probably took many a poetry class....
Clue 1: it is devoted to Box and is most likely in Saint Paul proper because they mentioned King Boreas.
The second clue is telling us it is in a park with hilly terrain/could be a play on words with street names/park names. The park may have a mystery to its history.
Contests waged of yore may equal Battle or has something to do with a previous hunt.
My take is that this is telling us that the park is not flat. And it is not a new park, it's been there before. And there is something in common with how/where it is placed now with how/where it was placed then. And it's in one of the Boxmeyer parks.
It's mostly based in the Hill mansion on Summit, a bar in the old Ryan Hotel and a park downtown where the palace is. I think there is a map in the front showing the various locations.
With Clue 2, Conway's out (in my mind) and Battle Creek has reared it's ugly head.
However, more and various "battles" and 'fights' have been fought over Chair-O-Key than BC (which history will prove), and - of course! - it's one of Box'es parks!
Tramping hill and dell, you may hear tell About the contests waged of yore
Much of the history remains a mystery
Which we hope to bring to the fore
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I think that is just saying "hey, you might hear about past hunts during this years hunt. And a lot of how this process works is a mystery, but we are going to tell a little about it as we go along"
Really, with Boxmeyer being interviewed by Trent, and with the article published yesterday about the other past hiders--they are giving us more info than ever about how the process works.
I agree, I think that we have to give some thought to notion that the writer is devoting this hunt to Box, and with that there is has to be some probability that they share some history on how the whole process works.
I really think they are eluding to two parks and one is going to be a red herring ( used in Sherlock Holmes stories notoriously) and one will be the real park.....
Oh, and yes there is a map in the front of the book. Since the book is set in 1896, the street names are a little different from now. I'll see if I can figure out where the book ice palace was located.
In the book, the ice palace is located just east of the current state capitol grounds. I don't have my map book right now. What is surrounded by Constitution, Central Park, Columbus, and Cedar Streets?
I was going to joke around, and say its at Como- but its been a long time since its been there- and its too early to rule out Como based on these clues.
Swede Hollow
Phalen
Highland
Como
Rest
As of clue 2...
What gets me is this:
"Much of the history remains a mystery
Which we hope to bring to the fore"
And at the same time the paper is running an article about the Momsens who were clue writers in the past and are now revealing some of their secret history. Seems very reminiscent of when they ran an article about how Maplewood was fine with hosting a hunt the same year it just happened to be in Phalen, right along that Maplewood border. So maybe there is something in that article we're supposed to use?
nahhhh
Replying to AW: Agreed. Plus, have you seen the headline to that article? Medallion Hunters, Meet Your Nemesis.
A character featured in his Ice Palace book is named Shadwell Rafferty who assists Sherlock Holmes in his investigations. This link may be way off, but Millet's books are fascinating. Plus the Millet/Boxmeyer clue writing team....
Millet has both a BA and a Master's degree in English, so he is good with words and probably took many a poetry class....
I think CM screw'd it up...
It sort of sounds like this clue is telling us:
It is in a park that is hilly, with interesting valleys.
A long time ago, there were games/battles/contests/competitions in this park
But, there isn't a good historical record of said contests, or perhaps, the history of this park.
Thus, each clue will be telling us more about this history.
Will that actually be the clue solution? I very much doubt it.
The second clue is telling us it is in a park with hilly terrain/could be a play on words with street names/park names. The park may have a mystery to its history.
Contests waged of yore may equal Battle or has something to do with a previous hunt.
Fore may indicate a golf course.
can you fix it?
That's all I got.
can you fix it?
I didn't break it but it is fixed now.
With Clue 2, Conway's out (in my mind) and Battle Creek has reared it's ugly head.
However, more and various "battles" and 'fights' have been fought over Chair-O-Key than BC (which history will prove), and - of course! - it's one of Box'es parks!
I'm leaning Chair-O-Key.
I think that is just saying "hey, you might hear about past hunts during this years hunt. And a lot of how this process works is a mystery, but we are going to tell a little about it as we go along"
Really, with Boxmeyer being interviewed by Trent, and with the article published yesterday about the other past hiders--they are giving us more info than ever about how the process works.
I really think they are eluding to two parks and one is going to be a red herring ( used in Sherlock Holmes stories notoriously) and one will be the real park.....
I stole the Dell reference from PP site. :smile:
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this clue is right up her alley
I haven't read it, so I don't know the specifics. You'll have to rely on OT for details of the plot.
Means I'm either out in left field or brilliant.
Probably out in left field.
Good article on Box. Note where his church is located.
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