My gut's been telling me it's not at SH since clue 1... I don't know anymore. So many things leading to Swede Hollow and it's been tore up in most of the spots I would've thought, I actually wouldn't mind getting a solid new park out of tonight's clue.. or if it at least completely confirms SH, then I have a couple other decent spots in/around the park to check out..
Camo Dan loses his watch yesterday while digging and has no idea where it is and I have no idea he lost it. Also yesterday while walking the park with my mom I run into a lady that found a watch in the snow with a broken band and she gives it to me.
I throw it in my car and forget about it. Then this morning I see Camo Dan and he mentions that he lost a watch... Right away I knew it was his watch. Whats the chance of that?
He loses his watch, a random lady finds it and gives it to me then the next day I'm talking to the guy that lost it and i have it.
Thousands of people trying to find a medallion and no one can yet a lost watch finds its way back to the owner through two people. :lipsealed:
"During the get-a-way from their December 16, 1932, bank robbery in Minneapolis, the Barker-Karpis gang stopped in Como Park to switch cars. Unaware of the robbery, Christmas tree salesman Oscar Erickson slowed down to look and was shot to death by Fred Barker."
The Snowjester and I just had dinner at Yarusso's tonight that it is now one of my favorites. We both really liked it and we used our coupon so the mean was definitely wallet friendly. I don't think that I am going to make it down to the paper tonight, but I will be out tomorrow after I get done with work.
nice hunting with Tim, Nimrod. Nice to see so many coolers, those of you not out today you are missing one of the funnest hunts in years. reminds me of chair o key.
One of my bosses at work was telling me they had like all you can eat lasagna or spaghetti one on sunday and one on monday. Was that going on tonight or is that an old special?
Yarusso's is one of the best food in town. We've eaten there a number of times over the years. Glad other people are finding it now and giving them business.
We had a nice dinner at the kid's place tonight. Left there and drove through Como for kicks. No one there.
I have been researching molls, gangsters, nightclubs, prohibition, trains, old buildings, hamms... I am getting nothing! Maybe I should stop by the library tomorrow on my lunch break. I will have another clue by then!
I am not bothering with that part of the clue. It's the man of metal thing all over again. More thinking about it or googling it for me isn't going to happen.
The best I've come up with is the moll being Ma Barker and the Doll just to make the rhyme and note that Germans lived there too. None of which tells me where in the park the medallion is.
It's my way of belly achin' about these once a day clue hunts. And now that they release the first clue early besides, it just seems ridiculously long in between.
From dillerngerswomen.com: "By September, 1934, she knew that her former protectors had turned to the St. Paul police to kill Van Meter, while she attended a movie in St. Paul."
"She posed as his wife, using names like... "Mrs. Wayne Heuttner" and "Mrs. Henry Ober."
The above is about Marie Comforti, girlfriend to Henry Van Meter.
Maria is one doll made by her-- and that is by SH.
I am going to make a concerted effort to open my mind and think about other parks... doing so I found this at the Webster II New Collegiate dictionary:
doll: (doll, nickname for Dorothy) 1. a child's usu. small toy having the likeness of a human 2. a pretty child 3. slang A. an attractive person B. a woman 4A. a sweetheart 4B. a person regarded with fond familiarity.
SO- a German Dorothy would be (according to my searching) equivantly named Dora or Dorothea. Dora is by IM and Dorothea is by HF. Just throwing that out there.
But this is really stretching things.... the same way Moll=Mary=Maria would be quite a stretch (discussed earlier)
OK- Ry and I are leaving to head downtown now. I can't wait to have a different clue to think about. I feel like this is going to rattle around in my head for years the way that stupid one from como does... the one that went something like 'was it two or three, few seem to agree, just when st. paul made the great leap'. ugh.
I know there once was a brothel down by the xcel. run by a madame named nina clifford, right down by Irving Park. Earlier I googled "star crossed" and ended up about a resteraunt review of Forepough's, also down by Irving. Maybe another coincidence
So far the best things for the moll/doll is what green came up with the Marie Comforti pretending to be German with fake names (I think those sound German) and what Kitch found on Anna Sage. (Annapolis).
From 1889 to 1929 (when it was closed upon the owner's death), Nina Clifford ran a brothel under the streets of Saint Paul, Minnesota. She was the most famous madam in Minnesota history[citation needed], both because of her success and for the ingenuity she showed in attracting customers. A small cave-complex was built underground, linking the prestigious and exclusive Minnesota Club with Ms. Clifford's secret brothel to allow her clients the privacy they required.
Ms. Clifford was memorialized in the 1980s with a play, and then a musical, about her antics. It was entitled Nina! Madam to a Saintly City. Saints and sinners?
On Friday I lost by ATM Card when I went out to eat with a few of the crew.
I found an ATM card the next day - in my wallet of all places - that said "Jake Inge..." on it. Called Jake on the phone Saturday Morning and Sure enough the same thing happened to him - he found MY card in HIS wallet! Who woulda thunkit?!?!?! :wink:
Really looking forward to tonight's clue, I would really like some verification that my digging has not been in vain.
Saw many CC and the Camo Crue.
All in all SH is not that bad of a park. If it is there its nice that they brought us here to see it. I have never been there before this hunt.
A resident of Swede Hollow, Tony Sanchelli, sang
"America" every Sunday night while sitting on the bridge.
http://www.tpt.org/lostcity/swede.html
Mike Sanchelli: "My father had a great voice.
But he used to get home between 9 and 10 o'clock and
the last thing he would do was sit on the middle of
the big bridge and sing 'America' and then he would go to bed.
Camo Dan loses his watch yesterday while digging and has no idea where it is and I have no idea he lost it. Also yesterday while walking the park with my mom I run into a lady that found a watch in the snow with a broken band and she gives it to me.
I throw it in my car and forget about it. Then this morning I see Camo Dan and he mentions that he lost a watch... Right away I knew it was his watch. Whats the chance of that?
He loses his watch, a random lady finds it and gives it to me then the next day I'm talking to the guy that lost it and i have it.
Thousands of people trying to find a medallion and no one can yet a lost watch finds its way back to the owner through two people. :lipsealed:
yarusso's has gone out of their way to be hunt friendly. Just plan nice. great food. SH café is great also.
We had a nice dinner at the kid's place tonight. Left there and drove through Como for kicks. No one there.
3+ hours before the clue.
the bild lilli doll not close enough to Billie and so what, than what does that get us?
madame alexander -
hummel -
I get nothing that works with the park
we got North without getting the moll ????
I am not bothering with that part of the clue. It's the man of metal thing all over again. More thinking about it or googling it for me isn't going to happen.
Kaethe Kruse is a German doll maker. This is one of her dolls:
http://www.kaethe-kruse.de/UPLOAD/Produkt_100008_jCfX55.pdf
Gangsterbraut
Can you tell I don't like waiting?
:sheepish:
"She posed as his wife, using names like... "Mrs. Wayne Heuttner" and "Mrs. Henry Ober."
The above is about Marie Comforti, girlfriend to Henry Van Meter.
I wonder if she was ever at the State Fair... Newell?
I am going to make a concerted effort to open my mind and think about other parks... doing so I found this at the Webster II New Collegiate dictionary:
doll: (doll, nickname for Dorothy) 1. a child's usu. small toy having the likeness of a human 2. a pretty child 3. slang A. an attractive person B. a woman 4A. a sweetheart 4B. a person regarded with fond familiarity.
SO- a German Dorothy would be (according to my searching) equivantly named Dora or Dorothea. Dora is by IM and Dorothea is by HF. Just throwing that out there.
But this is really stretching things.... the same way Moll=Mary=Maria would be quite a stretch (discussed earlier)
- thinks positive thoughts -
http://fieldguide.fmr.org/site_detail.php?site_id=241
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From 1889 to 1929 (when it was closed upon the owner's death), Nina Clifford ran a brothel under the streets of Saint Paul, Minnesota. She was the most famous madam in Minnesota history[citation needed], both because of her success and for the ingenuity she showed in attracting customers. A small cave-complex was built underground, linking the prestigious and exclusive Minnesota Club with Ms. Clifford's secret brothel to allow her clients the privacy they required.
Ms. Clifford was memorialized in the 1980s with a play, and then a musical, about her antics. It was entitled Nina! Madam to a Saintly City. Saints and sinners?
I found an ATM card the next day - in my wallet of all places - that said "Jake Inge..." on it. Called Jake on the phone Saturday Morning and Sure enough the same thing happened to him - he found MY card in HIS wallet! Who woulda thunkit?!?!?! :wink:
Certainly a lot of snow in that movie, I swear I saw the medallion sitting there.
The Saintly City saints and sinners link is good also.
Plus she had a German name! Good job..
No where near Swede, tho?
(Love that movie)....