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2009 - Swede Hollow

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40below

I won't believe this clue until I see someone else verify it.
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:05 PM Permalink
brasscat

Rob Brassmonkey will call me with it
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:05 PM Permalink
wolfpac

What the hell!!!!
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:06 PM Permalink
Inasuitcase

Clue is coming out late tonight. The suspense is getting to me!
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:06 PM Permalink
brasscat

This hunt is driving me bonkers this year
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:06 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Clue writers don't use sloppy english like "ick" or call themselves PP...but who knows with this hunt
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:07 PM Permalink
Mad_Dach5und

My eight line rhyme is pure BS - I just made that up - Ann Vulcann has that exact same clue on the older PP board - but I think she did a cut and paste from the new one.
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:07 PM Permalink
brasscat

No comment from the Nimrod gallery.
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:07 PM Permalink
40below

if that's the real clue then I will have lost all respect for the cluewriter after a decent first 7 clues. That's gotta be the most sophomoric clue-writing I've ever seen. My fake clue was better than THAT!
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:07 PM Permalink
excavating stud

Too early to be calling the park out w/ a clue that obvious.
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:07 PM Permalink
tim_the_hunter

Saints and sinners, losers and winners

Sped by at a quickened pace

While the gangster's moll, a German doll

Once played at this star-crossed place
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:08 PM Permalink
brasscat

U had me going
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:08 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Thanks boss :smile:
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:08 PM Permalink
40below

THANK YOU TIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:08 PM Permalink
Terry

Thanks Tim!
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:09 PM Permalink
excavating stud

Wabasha street caves?
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:09 PM Permalink
excavating stud

This sounds like a history clue to me.
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:09 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Whew Tim, thanks!
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:10 PM Permalink
40below

Let's see somebody fit this to Swede!
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:11 PM Permalink
Terry

Noun 1. gangster's moll gangster's moll - the girlfriend of a gangster
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:11 PM Permalink
tom

moll also has a refrence to the Highlands in Scotland. Could be a highland clue, or a 3M clue. I know 3M is starting to move out of St Paul
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:12 PM Permalink
zephyrus

or a prostitute, per the free dictionary
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:13 PM Permalink
brasscat

Didn't the twin cities marathon go thriugh here?
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:13 PM Permalink
queenmalley

I think German is a key part
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:14 PM Permalink
40below

just an fyi to avoid confusion I removed the "fake" clue from my earlier post... MD could you edit it out of yours if you're still here? Thanks!
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:14 PM Permalink
tesser

Gangsters in St. Paul

The Eighteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, known as the Prohibition Amendment (1920-1933), prohibited the manufacture, sale, transport, import, or export of alcoholic beverages. The mandated shutdown of breweries and distilleries ended the lawful production of alcoholic beverages and created a vacuum that was filled by the unlawful production, sale, and control of "bootlegged" products and lawless allied activities: smuggling, gambling, prostitution, extortion, robbery, and murder. These became the province of such powerful crime czars as Chicago's Al Capone, of criminal gangs, and of organized crime. Lawlessness and the corruption of officials and police — the unintended consequences of the legislation — infected many American cities, including St. Paul. The city became a center of operation and a haven for such notorious gangsters as John Dillinger, Babyface Nelson, Roger "the Terrible" Touhy, Machine Gun Kelly, Alvin "Creepy" Karpis, and the Barker gang, whose activities extended to robbing banks, holding up mail trucks and trains, and kidnapping and holding their hostages for ransom.
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:14 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Unless Saints is referring to the old Midway stadium... Can anything fit over there?
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:14 PM Permalink
tom

star-crossed I think is huge.

Relationships to be doomed from the start. Could be Street Name refrences
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:15 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Which park has a lot of German influence?
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:15 PM Permalink
tesser

Anybody have John Dillinger Slept here?
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:16 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Newell Park
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:16 PM Permalink
Mad_Dach5und

What fake clue? I don't see any fake clue? :wink:
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:17 PM Permalink
zephyrus

Saints and sinners, losers and winners

Sped by at a quickened pace --------------------

Train... new trolleys or something?
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:17 PM Permalink
Terry

Colic...again.
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:18 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Oh Gosh, trolleys mean Como. But SW had cable cars going uphill.
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:19 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Hey, I had fun at that hunt! and if I remember the weather was nice that year.
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:20 PM Permalink
'mom'

The only thing I can remember is that William Hamm was kidnapped by the Barker Karpis gang....in the 30's I think.....but seems like a stretch, and who is the German doll?
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:20 PM Permalink
tom

They have the Train and Truck Yard right by Midway Stadium and Newell Park. But also for the same at BC, Burlington Northorns Yards are across 61
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:20 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Good one, thanks OT!
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:20 PM Permalink
40below

Nice link OT!
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:20 PM Permalink
excavating stud

what are the famous speakeasies in St Paul?
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:22 PM Permalink
Terry

I did too...but I don't want to move to a different park this late in the game.
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:22 PM Permalink
Mad_Dach5und

The only German Doll I can think of was Judy Garland - Frances Gumm - but I dunno where that would fit in.
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:22 PM Permalink
Nimrod

German doll-barbie....does that mean I can watch that real doll video again(pouring drink)?
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:24 PM Permalink
Terry

This one is taking some googling and I haven't found anything as good as what you had OT.
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:24 PM Permalink
zephyrus

I was just thinking of where the original Saints played.
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:24 PM Permalink
queenmalley

Typical of the hospitality St. Paul offered criminals was the police tip-off at Ma Barker's hideout, which still stands today at 1031 South Robert Street, near Bernard Street in West St. Paul. Ma Barker moved to this house in February 1932, accompanied by Alvin "Creepy" Karpis and Ma's son Fred. The Barker-Karpis Gang was then at the midpoint of a larcenous career that would earn it $3 million in bank and kidnap loot. FBI head J. Edgar Hoover called it "the most vicious, cold-blooded crew of murderers, kidnappers and robbers in recent memory."

Is Ma Barker's house near SW, someone posted it like days ago....
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:25 PM Permalink
Terry

The saints played at Lexington and University - where the new Wilder Foundation main offices are now.

Joe!
Sat, 01/24/2009 - 9:25 PM Permalink