2009 - Swede Hollow

If you didn't sin why waste the valuable hunt time

I wonder how many hunters will be attending services there tomorrow morning. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

:sillygrin: :sillygrin: :sillygrin: :sillygrin:

Digging until 2am - in bed by 3am - up at 9am and downtown by 9:30 for a day of carnival fun - home by 4pm.... very tired...

Ate dinner and laid down to "rest up" for tonight... woke up at 10pm!!! HMMM should I hurry up and get to the paper?!?!? Or stay here all comfy and warm in my sweats in bed?!?!?

After reading the clue..... SO GLAD I STAYED IN BED!

rethinking my North St. / star noodle after seeing a post on the press board

North St. runs through SH... both east and west sides

"star-crossed place"

makes a lil more sense

I like that idea.

I'm starting to think star crossed could be telling us where X is, but were missing things in the clue.

Maria comes off 7th and to prevent running smack into the church, the road turns to the right and meets up with North.

Is that all Maria until it hooks up at North or do they call that something else? (Been too many years since I officed over there to remember.)

I believe It is called 8th street

Thank you!

No problem :smile:

thanks! I have not posted much myself, but I post with my mom (Andrea)

Anyone want to go back to the list of Dog Parks and work from there?

Your Mom is a good noodler! Please feel free to join in whenever you want as yourself.

Will do! thanks. :smile:

How bout we redo the Predig Gig and just start EVERYTHING over? Maybe this time I can make it to it :grin:

For sure!

Saints and sinners, losers and winners

Sped by at a quickened pace

This is referring to the railroad that used to be in SH.

From Wiki

In addition railroad tracks were built along the creek in 1865, because the creek bed provided a relatively easy grade up from the Mississippi River compared to the bluffs in other places

Makes sense.

There's only one dog park in St. Paul - Arlington Arkwright

Battle Creek in Maplewood

Woodview in Roseville on Larpenteur near Dale

Others are further out - White Bear Township, Shoreview, or other counties.

Very well may be. Fits well actually.

I can't get Ruth Etting out of my head. Urgh :crying:

From Wiki

In addition railroad tracks were built along the creek in 1865, because the creek bed provided a relatively easy grade up from the Mississippi River compared to the bluffs in other places

"unleash" might be a red herring - really just meaning for us to unleash the dogs on the hunt - time to start the hunt

Well. I think I'm back on the Swede Hollow bandwagon.

Question is, where is it, and is it in a spot that somebody already dug up but missed? :ooh:

I think that unleashed word in the first clue was to throw people off.

That whole line could read like this and mean the same thing:

Unleash the medallion quest! = Start the medallion quest!

here is a pic

It's packed down under all the hard snow that everyone has been walking on for the past week! :eek:

And we had that unleashed clue for two days to pick apart.

Great find, Brassmonkey.

We are learning much about Swede Hollow. Some we knew, but putting it all together when we're concentrating efforts there, makes it more intriguing.

I need intriguing when it comes to history. It was not my favorite subject.

From what I seen, the area that makes the most sense (back towards the old brewery) was really massively picked over, so if it's back there I'm pretty sure someone was right on it... I don't think they'd put it on the unplowed side with the steeper hills by the creek, that'd be an absolute disaster with hundreds of people right there... and not too much that's "all natural" on the plowed side, although there's a few nice spots over there where everything you'd see was done naturally...

The main thing that I so not like about Swede, is its safety for the clue 12 rush. It is very steep in places. Some of you guys saw those stairs; very icy. The creek is part frozen in places. You get enough people to stand on the ice and boom. So idk. Does safety play into where they would hide it? Is this where the "Quite Roomy" clue comes into play?

I believe that Quite Roomy is exactly what comes into play.

Not that recent years have been so totally safe for a 12th clue rush.

last years spot wasnt to safe...

That is a good point.

So if I am right and the old railroad is what the first part of the clue is referring to, then what does the second part mean?

Have we figured out who the german doll is?

Makes one wonder ...... however look at lasts years placement in IM?

I finally found the information related to the original Saints Stadium:

http://www.wilder.org/wc_features.0.html

Site History



Wilder Center is located in the southwest corner of University Avenue and Lexington Parkway; the former site of Lexington Park, the home of the original Saint Paul Saints baseball team from 1897 to 1956. Civil engineers pin-pointed the exact spot of the original home plate -- near the north entrance of Wilder Center.

A commemorative brass plate marks the location of home plate as a reminder to employees and visitors of the site's rich history. A grass pitcher's mound is also featured in the backyard as an additional tribute to celebrate the site's history.

that's right.. wasn't the path even closed off?

Good noodle!

I like that! Makes 1/2 the clue make sense for me...

Now I need to figure out the other 1/2....

The other half is referring to Maria and North (star).

That is unless someone comes up with a better explanation. :smile:

My father used to take me to games at Lexington Stadium. We rode the streetcar there. Only one transfer. :smile:

In my mind I feel pretty certain that they are referring to the railway.

I think last year's hiding spot was significantly safer and "quite roomy" compared to what would be the equivalent of a "final clue" rush to a spot in Swede... unless said spot was closer to the front entrance at 7th & Payne and people wouldn't be rushing down the huge hill / stairs

last year you just had one spot that was sorta narrow that you had to walk past, and the hills weren't quite as steep as Swede... piece of cake

Didn't somebody noodle something about chug races, or soap box derby races... Can't remember what park that was referring to, but perhaps that was "is" the sped by at a quickend pace part and those could be the losers and winners.

My brain is starting to melt...

hhmmmmm

Didn't Swede hollow turn into a "little Italy" after the swedes moved out? (Yarussos ) Weren't Romeo and Juliet the "star crossed" lovers in this Italian tale?

there were bicycle races by Harriet.. don't know if it was actually strong enough to tie in

I think they will do the same as they did last year, giving a clue 11 ( or maybe even 10) that is more like a clue 12 to avoid some of that

....we'll be up front... :wink:

oops - I mean we;ll bring it to the fore

Very possible, and likely if it is at Swede (which at this point I think it is)