2009 - Swede Hollow

There's a video now?

Ma Barker had several hideouts in the area....Robert St in West St. Paul, and a place in White Bear Lake....sure there's probably others.

That one is west st paul

Does Hummel mean anything? Could German Hummel figurines be considered dolls?

Losers and Winners, Saints and Sinners: How to Finish Strong in the Spiritual Race by: Greg Laurie paperback

I am not thanking Tim for that clue. I wanted a better one. I say we all go down to the PP and kick Tim's colicy ...

Unless someone smarter than me figures it out.

PS thanks Tim

Edna "the kissing bandit" Murray; Delores Delany, girlfriend of Alvin Karpis; Evelyn "Billie" Frechette, girlfriend of John Dillinger; Any sound German?

You can tour her house in Grand Rapids, MN

I'm trying to see how Shakesphere and Romo & Juliet could fit a park.

German doll?

http://www.marlene.com/

One of the most famous German actresses of the period... can't tie it in though

Website for the St. Paul Gangster Tour

here's a REEEEEAL stretch for a clue;

 London Town's Gangsters and Molls Banquet

LonDIN Lane runs just south of Battle Creek

good one, OT.

I think this is pointing to the wabasha street caves, which is very close to Harriet.

Mary Kinder? Kinder sounds German

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild_Lilli_doll

German doll

"Lilli Doll"

The new PP board is down.

The Lilli doll was first sold in Germany in 1955, and although it was initially sold ....

Also, the fictional "Gangsta Bitch Barbie" doll and a "Tupac Ken" doll. ...

That would tie into the beasts exposed as fossils.

:neutral:

Someone posted this link on the PP board about a racing time trial near Lilydale Park and Harriet Island

St. Paul Riverfront time trials

Not to stear anyone anywhere else, but there use to be a GoCart place that closed up for a BusGaradge a while back- but no other clues will fit a nearby park.

Right through Cherokee.

finished on top of the high bridge.. hmm

I don't know of any colic Lilli dolls

looks to me that some german starlet performed at a nightclub or thearter by the park.(I SHOULD SAY spot no mention of park yet)

any parks by theaters where famous people would hang out?? rice, kelloge by ordway any others?

looks like the "On Water St" anagram might've really been the only one that meant anything worthwhile

Someone asked about the old Midway Stadium. The old Midway Stadium use to be at 1000 North Snelling Avenue. This is where the bus garadge now across from the fairgrounds.

Gang Members Girlfriends and Wives

John Dillinger

 Beryl Hovias (wife), Mary Longnaker, Evelyn "Billie" Frechette, Polly Hamilton

Tommy Carroll

 Jean Delaney Crompton (wife)

Russell Clark

 Opal "Mack Truck" Long, sister of Patricia Cherrington

Eddie Green

 Bessie Green (wife)

John Hamilton

 Patricia Cherrington, sister of Opal Long

Baby Face Nelson

 Helen Gillis (wife)

Harry Pierpont

 Mary Kinder

Pat Reilly

 Helen Delaney Reilly (wife) sister of Jean Delaney

Homer Van Meter

 Marie Comforti

I thought it was closer to Lexington and University? Pretty sure I remember a plaque of "home plate" in the grocery store that used to be there...

Thank you'

first connection to Swede, from PP board..

Beaumont Stakes horse race... Beaumont runs into Swede

Saints and sinners could refer to 1st Luthern Church where Box's funeral was on top of the hill and there was a police staion just east of burger king where police cars sped by

belmont stakes

yep that'd be the triple crown one... this is a different one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumont_Stakes

Bit of a stretch for me

"The daughter of the French mushroom farmers and her husband started a romantic night club called The Castle Royal where people could come and spend a $1.00 for dinner (at that time the cost of a weekÂ’s groceries), dance to big bands, see musical acts or play cards."

A little gangster history here. I found this regarding a fomous singer Ruth Etting who married a mobster Moe Schneider: "Ledgend has it that Ruth Etting sang in The Comodore Hotel when she was married to Moe 'The Gimp' Schneider." The Comodore hotel is in the Summit neighborhood.

That's Lexington Stadium where the St. Paul Saints played.

saint - saint John's

sinner Phalen(creek)

race by bueamont

Good find!

That's right. The original Saints stadium was on the southwest corner where the Wilder Center's new building is currently.

The store the home plate was in was first Red Owl's Country Store - later to be Kowalski's.

I googled Midway Stadium. You may be right

The original was called Lexington Stadium and replaced by the first version of Midway later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexington_Park

Star Cross

I don't know if the CW would go this way with the "star-crossed" thing, but it might be worth exploring

http://www.seiyaku.com/customs/crosses/star.html

At the turn of 20th century, the eventual chief of the St. Paul Police department, John J. O'Connor, sent word out to gangsters all over America that they were welcome to St. Paul and that it was a safe haven and a safe city for them if they followed a certain set of rules. When bank robbers and kidnappers arrived at the Union Depot in downtown St. Paul, they had to identify themselves to police, pay the police a little tribute, frequently stolen jewelry, had to identify where they were staying while in St. Paul, and, while in the city limits of St. Paul, could not kill, maim, kidnap or rob anyone. If the gangster did not have a girlfriend in St. Paul, the police would direct them where to satisfy whatever personal vices they sought. Under the system, the gangsters could go to Minneapolis, Des Moines, Milwaukee, or Madison and kill, rob or loot so long as when they came back to St. Paul, the gangsters were on their best behavior. Pretty Boy Floyd, Machine Gun Kelly, the Barker-Karpis gang, Alvin "Creepy" Karpis, John Dillinger, Baby Face Nelson, Verne Miller, and virtually every other major hoodlum in the United States, with the exception of Pretty Boy Floyd, came to St. Paul during the period. The O'Connor system was called the "lay over" agreement because gangsters could "layover" in St. Paul and it lasted until the mid 1930's and the Edward Bremer and William Hamm kidnappings by the Barker-Karpis gang. That violation of the O'Connor system and of the safe haven stunned the influencial folk of St. Paul and led to the total collapse of the 36 year old agreement between the crooks and the police...Other cities across America...had "safe haven" agreements, but St. Paul was unique, functioning like a department store for gangsters, with machine guns being sold to bank robbers on Wabasha Street, loose women were available to be a gangster's girlfriend or moll..

From History of Dayton's Bluff.

sorry... I posted this as a reference to clue 7 - King and Court

maybe... just trying different angles

sinner st by SH

myother map says sinnen st dang.

Also would apply to now.... "star-crossed place"

"romantic nightclub..."

fits...

Good find!

Except O'Connor is Irish!

http://www.placeography.org/index.php/Commodore_Hotel,_79_Western_Avenue,_Saint_Paul,_Minnesota

Commodore Hotel

I know from Driving down Payne that its a known Prositution area down by SH- but I can't picture the PP using a Jane as a clue.